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Wolfric Draksmile
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Posted - 2011.05.14 13:53:00 -
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When I began eve online I did not know what would interest me to do in the game. I put Skill point everywhere to try. Now I have a 17.5M Sp character that is not really effecient. I think it would be interrestening to add un medical center the possibility to reset your character an to up your character like you want with your Skills point even if it cost 500M or only one time in a year.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.05.14 13:54:00 -
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Start a new one or buy one. In other words, NO.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.05.14 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Wolfric Draksmile Now I have a 17.5M Sp character that is not really effecient.
That's ok. You still have plenty of time to make it efficient.
As for respeccing, nah. That just removes planning and choice and encourages FOTM play. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:02:00 -
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I hope you're not suggesting 500M ISK is in any way a significant amount of money.
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Mister Rocknrolla
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:06:00 -
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How about 1B isk and removal of 50% SP?
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mister Rocknrolla
How about 1B isk and removal of 50% SP?
How about 100 Billion and the removal of 99% SP. That seems close to the correct limitation.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
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Fumbleface
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Fumbleface on 14/05/2011 14:15:22
I wholeheartedly agree with you Wolfric and here's another thread on the subject with some pretty strong arguments for.
Deleting Skills
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:21:00 -
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Transfer assets to an alt. Biomass character. Create new character with the old name. Transfer assets back from alt. Reset completed.
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Illwill Bill
Talu Shaya Talu Shaya Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana Transfer assets to an alt. Biomass character. Create new character with the old name. Transfer assets back from alt. Reset completed.
I've been considering this tbh.
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Revenge is a dish best served with auto-cannons.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Fumbleface I wholeheartedly agree with you Wolfric and here's another thread on the subject with some pretty strong arguments for.
Deleting Skills
Really? The thread isn't about the same thing, and it doesn't really contain any arguments for what it is suggesting.
So yeahà no. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
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Fumbleface
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:28:00 -
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Ummm..yeah, unfortunately your going to get a lot of trolls posting with completely worthless comments in regards to this topic and the ones that do put the effort forth, really seem to fall short of a convincing argument against.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Fumbleface Ummm..yeah, unfortunately your going to get a lot of trolls posting with completely worthless comments in regards to this topic and the ones that do put the effort forth, really seem to fall short of a convincing argument against.
They don't really have to put any effort into it since there's no real argument for ità
àand, of course, since that thread is about something drastically different than what the OP is talking about, had any arguments been presented, they wouldn't really have transferred to this topic anyway. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Fumbleface Anyone who disagrees with me is a troll and has no reason to say no.
Indeed.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
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Klandi
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:33:00 -
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I dont know of any skills that are useless - they all serve a purpose
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Fumbleface
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Fumbleface I wholeheartedly agree with you Wolfric and here's another thread on the subject with some pretty strong arguments for.
Deleting Skills
Really? The thread isn't about the same thing, and it doesn't really contain any arguments for what it is suggesting.
So yeahà no.
Deleting unwanted skills or completely reseting a characters skill trees..I'd be happy with either one. So your point is useless, move on.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Fumbleface Deleting unwanted skills or completely reseting a characters skill trees..I'd be happy with either one. So your point is useless, move on.
You can start a new one or buy one that fits your needs, so your point is useless. Move on.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
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northwesten
Amarr Trinity Corporate Services
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:36:00 -
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No reset please. Skills u have is what you have tuff crap. ------------------------------------
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Fumbleface Deleting unwanted skills or completely reseting a characters skill trees..I'd be happy with either one.
àand still there's no argument for either one.
Quote: So your point is useless, move on.
My point is that there's no argument for it presented in the thread you offered as a source of "some pretty strong arguments for [it]". ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Bossanova Widya
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:42:00 -
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u dont get effiecient until the many 10s of millions of SP.. 17.5 is chicken feed
u wait OP, your time hasn't come yet, wen ur big u can be anythin u want :)
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Anddeh McNab
Cadre Assault Force
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Wolfric Draksmile Now I have a 17.5M Sp character that is not really effecient.
That's ok. You still have plenty of time to make it efficient.
As for respeccing, nah. That just removes planning and choice and encourages FOTM play.
What Tippia said basically. When I first started too I threw SP at all kinds of skills, you don't have to have a hyper efficient character to play EVE :) There are two sides to the EVE community; those that scream for change and those that scream against it. Often they are the same person. |
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Fumbleface
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Fumbleface Deleting unwanted skills or completely reseting a characters skill trees..I'd be happy with either one.
àand still there's no argument for either one.
Quote: So your point is useless, move on.
My point is that there's no argument for it presented in the thread you offered as a source of "some pretty strong arguments for [it]".
No argument for either one? Really? I think that's a matter of opinion and I personally think that your nothing more than a troll after that comment.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.05.14 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 14/05/2011 15:06:02
Originally by: Fumbleface No argument for either one? Really?
Yeah, ok. Fine. "It looks bad" is the argument for deleting skillsà it's a pretty silly argument. What problem does it solve? Why is it needed? What benefits are there from doing it?
Quote: I think that's a matter of opinion
No. Looking at that thread, it's pretty much a matter of fact. The thread in question most certainly does not hold up to your claim of containing "some pretty strong arguments for" the ability to delete skills (and it contains none for the ability to respec). ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Wolfric Draksmile
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Posted - 2011.05.14 15:28:00 -
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500M is a lot of isk for me. Beut Perharps it could be like the Attributes, the possibility to reaarange your character one time in a year. It is really frustrating to have useless skils, when you see the time you need to up in this game. When you begin the game it is relly difficult to have an idea of how the things are working. And perharps like me you would like to test new things in the game. The idea to train a new character for 6 months to see that in fact i do not like playing matar or indus is to me a bit harsh.
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Wolfric Draksmile
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Posted - 2011.05.14 15:30:00 -
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I would buy a charcater if they do not have kikoolol names. And it is difficult to find the character that is exactly the one you would like to play.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.05.14 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Wolfric Draksmile It is really frustrating to have useless skils, when you see the time you need to up in this game.
The thing is, in the end, they will just be a drop in the bucket and they will never really do any harm.
Quote: And perharps like me you would like to test new things in the game. The idea to train a new character for 6 months to see that in fact i do not like playing matar or indus is to me a bit harsh.
No need to make a new character. Just roll with what you've got. And if you want to just try something, start small ù nothing needs 6 months just to test and get a taste of it (unless you've fallen for the "must have lvl V" myth).
The stuff that requires 6 months will fall into one of two categories: either it's highly general stuff that you'll always find useful, or it will be a fair bit into specialisation territory. Either way, you're no longer talking about just testing stuff at that point. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.05.14 15:47:00 -
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what Tippia said.. if you want to do something else and just tested so far, well that's fine. Be happy you can train as long as you want and that there is no cap, nor are there any skills knocking each other out.
If you want respec - not wanted by gamedesign nor the hardcore of the playerbase - gdiaf If you want instant gratification - not wanted by gamedesign (though there are ways if you can live with a premade name) nor by the hardcore players - gdiaf
No one cares for your silly 17.5M SP nor your 500M isk. Eve has consequences. Deal with it or gtfo.
Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody! |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.05.14 15:51:00 -
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Not sure about others in this thread, but I've got to the stage where I'm not sure what to train next. I have all the skills I need.
I have hit upon a plan of sorts, but it's just a reason to train, rather than a need.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
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Dabouss
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Posted - 2011.05.14 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Mag's Not sure about others in this thread, but I've got to the stage where I'm not sure what to train next. I have all the skills I need.
I have hit upon a plan of sorts, but it's just a reason to train, rather than a need.
If you do then create another alt on the same account, train it and sell it. It's good business.
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Fumbleface
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Posted - 2011.05.14 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tres Farmer what Tippia said.. if you want to do something else and just tested so far, well that's fine. Be happy you can train as long as you want and that there is no cap, nor are there any skills knocking each other out.
If you want respec - not wanted by gamedesign nor the hardcore of the playerbase - gdiaf If you want instant gratification - not wanted by gamedesign (though there are ways if you can live with a premade name) nor by the hardcore players - gdiaf
No one cares for your silly 17.5M SP nor your 500M isk. Eve has consequences. Deal with it or gtfo.
Ok..Tippia's alt! LOL. "Not wanted by gamedesign" How the hell do you know this and where are the facts to support it? And the hardcore player base? Come on, really? What, one percent of all forum posters? LMAO!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.05.14 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Fumbleface Ok..Tippia's alt! LOL.
àor maybe there are more who don't really support your idea (something your thread shows far more than it provides arguments strong for the idea).
Quote: "Not wanted by gamedesign" How the hell do you know this and where are the facts to support it?
Where are your arguments in support of the change? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
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