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CCP Tanis
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Posted - 2011.05.20 16:51:00 -
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Howdy fellow capsuleers,
We will have the latest iteration on Captains Quarters up for public testing and feedback, starting TODAY. This time around we're focusing on getting final assets in and the overall performance of the new in-station environments. Sorry for the short notice this time around, but we wanted to open up the gates as soon as it was ready and that didn't leave time to give a proper heads up.
Full details will be forthcoming from CCP Chiliad in a new Dev blog, but here's the gist of it:
- Minmatar Captains Quarters, new tutorials, and new crash-course on Duality beginning on May 20th, in the Emrayur system - This build is not fully stable or complete, you have been warned!
We are looking for feedback on:
- Performance, hardware and graphics issues, memory leaks
How to participate:
1. You can find the Duality installer here. 2. Don't forget to create a shortcut to eve.exe and add " /server:duality" [note the space] in order to connect to the correct server. 3. Create a new character that is Amarr and in the Royal Amarr Institute school. (You should start in the Emrayur system) 4. Join chat channels: -- "CQ Info" ----[Moderated and for instructions and information from CCP only] and -- "CQ Testing" ----[For discussion, questions, comments, etc.]
** Note that the Mac installer is available, but the Mac client is not properly supported on this build. If you have bootcamp and can boot into windows, the windows client should stil work though.
!*! Please bear in mind that this is NOT a final/stable build, expect there to be bugs!á !*! This build is to give everyone a chance to play around with the new shiny toys, and to give us your impressions, suggestions, and critical feedback. We are already aware of issues with the tutorials pointing to overview functionality that is not yet completed.
File bug reports! If you find bugs, have problems, experience crashes, etc. we definitely want to hear from you! Filing a bug report is easy and is the absolute best and quickest way to inform us of any problems so we can get them resolved as quickly as possible.
* You can file a bug report here: http://bugs.eveonline.com * You can find tips on how to write a good bug report, and a great example here.
Give us your feedback!
Once you've had a chance to play around with the new CQ, Tutorials, and Crash Course, please post your feedback here, using the following template:
!*! All questions should be rated 1-5 (1=Terrible, 5=Win) !*!
1. Rate the graphics performance (framerate, UI lag, etc) (1-5 scale) ** Note that if you experience hardware issues, odd graphical bugs, etc. we would really like to get a DxDiag.txt from your machine to ehlp us identify edge cases and hardware incompatibility issues prior to releasing the code to TQ.
2. Rate the overall performance (1-5 scale)
3. General feedback - In your own words, please provide general feedback for the new CQ/Tutorial experience. Also feel free to give us any comments, concerns, suggestions, and problems you encountered.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.05.20 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tanis ** Note that the Mac installer is available, but the Mac client is not properly supported on this build. If you have bootcamp and can boot into windows, the windows client should stil work though.
Which kind of "not supported" is this?
The "it is guaranteed not to work" kind or the "we haven't tried to make it work and aren't collecting feedback, but if it does work, good for you" kind? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Salpun
Gallente Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.05.20 17:17:00 -
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Goggles for the win Lighting is better. Locked up at undock still stuck after trying a relog did not go back to CQ after failer. Movement controls better but still need tweaking.
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OverlordY
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Posted - 2011.05.20 17:30:00 -
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Thats a big download for 1 room.. 4.07Gb..
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Phantom Slave
Universal Pest Exterminators
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Posted - 2011.05.20 17:33:00 -
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Window was black except for the UI elements. Stuck on undocking, bug report filed with dxDiag included.
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Carola Kessler
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Posted - 2011.05.20 17:46:00 -
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Edited by: Carola Kessler on 20/05/2011 17:47:56 AS above stated from another player allready, stuck on undocking, with my Char from Emrayur station shows only the loading Navigation datas, Bug reported as well, also no flexible hairs shown, otherwise its a great step forward iteration, oh before i forget, Fittings doesn't show neither modules do, Shipchange works fine the Animations are much better then last time, so is the sitting pose on the couch.
Ligths and shadows are looking much better now great work so far CCP
Edit Implementing here a Screenshoot from my stuck in undocking sequence since for some reason didn't worked in the bug report : http://imageshack.us/f/707/screenshotundockingsequ.jpg/
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2011.05.20 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: OverlordY Thats a big download for 1 room.. 4.07Gb..
300m from sisi launcher with previous CQ build
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ImCoolerThanYou
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Posted - 2011.05.20 18:05:00 -
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I went to the character editor, loaded up one of the new hair styles - it took me back into CQ when I was done, but there was a graphic bugged human model in the doorway to the hangar overlook. I could not get back to the character editor after that and CQ no longer loads for me. It occurred to me that there is a reason all the hair is missing.
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Utremi Fasolasi
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.20 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tanis
** Note that the Mac installer is available, but the Mac client is not properly supported on this build. If you have bootcamp and can boot into windows, the windows client should stil work though.
Greatly appreciate this heads up in advance this time around.. a lot of time was wasted by many last time only to find out that it wasn't intended to work at all on the Mac in this form.
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2011.05.20 18:44:00 -
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Edited by: Raid''En on 20/05/2011 18:46:33
just tested ;
i don't see any difference on performance from last time ; it's not playable. the only difference is that now we have options, but they are all bugging. like having to check/uncheck an option 3 time to make it works. also low quality char give me 5x LESS fps.
i'm at 12-16 fps at best on CQ currently with my geforce 9600 gts i'm at 40-120 fps on TQ...
only good thing i saw is that you listen a bit to us for the screens ; i liked seeing stats on drakes price. that's a good idea.
but please do something about performance, cause if you launch CQ with what is currently on duality, you'll be hanged.
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Gothikia
Regeneration
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Posted - 2011.05.20 18:49:00 -
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I would love to test for you guys, but I can't even get onto Duality. Says my password is incorrect, but isn't. I'm guessing a mirror hasn't been done in a while for it? __ Gothie <3 |
EcthelionStrongbow
Caldari PROCORP RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.20 19:08:00 -
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1. Rate the graphics performance (framerate, UI lag, etc) (1-5 scale) 5, on my machine this feels awesome. Hovers around 50FPS on the dock, On the dock, the fitting holographic display device is off of the table. From the dock looking back into the room (Caldari Navy Station in Uuhulanen, there are a couple of flashing red graphics by the couch. Love the garbage bag by the door. Also my toons beard is rendered white/grey instead of black.
2. Rate the overall performance (1-5 scale) 5
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Kopfy
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Posted - 2011.05.20 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Kopfy on 20/05/2011 20:16:42
Originally by: Gothikia I would love to test for you guys, but I can't even get onto Duality. Says my password is incorrect, but isn't. I'm guessing a mirror hasn't been done in a while for it?
Have the same problem...
Tried my old pasword and it worked, so old mirror it is.
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Mumboz
Minmatar AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.05.20 20:36:00 -
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Tried to update my current Duality installation, but it failed and the repairtool kept trying to repair the downloaded files without succes. As suggested, i tried to get the offline installation, but the link to the exe-file seems to be broken: http://www.eveonline.com/download/?fallback=1&s=duality
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Razor Bird
Caldari Combined Extracting Technology's
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Posted - 2011.05.20 20:38:00 -
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Undocking is bugged, you get stuck at the screen that says: Entering Space: Checking Navigational equipment. Even relogging does not fix it. Performance wise, at max graphics, sans AA, between 12-20 fps, on a mobile Radeon HD 4680 1GB so I give it a 3 Graphics wise, there's a lot of stuff missing, but it is WIP. New clothes are okay, except the jet black tshirt and jacket, they look like a black hole. The minmitar goggles look weird but are a nice new touch. oh, and the skirts, finally women have options.
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Seris Devion
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Posted - 2011.05.20 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Mumboz Tried to update my current Duality installation, but it failed and the repairtool kept trying to repair the downloaded files without succes. As suggested, i tried to get the offline installation, but the link to the exe-file seems to be broken: http://www.eveonline.com/download/?fallback=1&s=duality
Same problem here, but if you click on the link to the client in the failed to repair dialog you get to download it. Pity the standalone installer shows the archive header corrupt and crashes if you try and use it though....
Windows 7 64bit here FYI.
Would making a copy of the TQ install and letting it auto-update work?
/GQM
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Amarrian ArchAngel
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Posted - 2011.05.20 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tanis avoid undocking entirely.
I like the fact people don't seem be able to read properly - even when its been put clearly in the OP....
AA.
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Palovana
Caldari Inner Fire Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.20 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: CCP Tanis ** Note that the Mac installer is available, but the Mac client is not properly supported on this build. If you have bootcamp and can boot into windows, the windows client should stil work though.
Which kind of "not supported" is this?
The "it is guaranteed not to work" kind or the "we haven't tried to make it work and aren't collecting feedback, but if it does work, good for you" kind?
What it means is that eventually official Mac support will go the way of official Linux support, and Mac users will be using Wine to run EVE.
Much like us Linux users have been since the Premium Graphics client was introduced, and maybe even before (I only go back to 2008).
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DoeRej Mi
Gallente Red Sky Morning BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.05.20 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: DoeRej Mi on 20/05/2011 21:15:59
Originally by: Seris Devion
Originally by: Mumboz Tried to update my current Duality installation, but it failed and the repairtool kept trying to repair the downloaded files without succes. As suggested, i tried to get the offline installation, but the link to the exe-file seems to be broken: http://www.eveonline.com/download/?fallback=1&s=duality
Same problem here, but if you click on the link to the client in the failed to repair dialog you get to download it. Pity the standalone installer shows the archive header corrupt and crashes if you try and use it though....
Windows 7 64bit here FYI.
Would making a copy of the TQ install and letting it auto-update work?
/GQM
Any ideas?
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Palovana
Caldari Inner Fire Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.20 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: DoeRej Mi Edited by: DoeRej Mi on 20/05/2011 21:15:59
Originally by: Seris Devion
Originally by: Mumboz Tried to update my current Duality installation, but it failed and the repairtool kept trying to repair the downloaded files without succes. As suggested, i tried to get the offline installation, but the link to the exe-file seems to be broken: http://www.eveonline.com/download/?fallback=1&s=duality
Same problem here, but if you click on the link to the client in the failed to repair dialog you get to download it. Pity the standalone installer shows the archive header corrupt and crashes if you try and use it though....
Windows 7 64bit here FYI.
Would making a copy of the TQ install and letting it auto-update work?
/GQM
Any ideas?
Copying TQ install and running SisiLauncher on it appears to have worked successfully through Wine for me, but resulted in 1.19GB of data downloaded.
Appears to have worked - as I ran this all remotely and haven't fired up the client, but no checksum errors or "file is corrupt" messages.
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Callme Chuck
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Posted - 2011.05.20 21:24:00 -
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I'd love to help you guys test this, but I have all my slots on all my accounts filled and there seems to be a ten-hour wait to biomass one. Can we speed that up any?
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CCP Tanis
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Posted - 2011.05.20 21:28:00 -
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Known Issues with this build:
Verified by QA:
- The tutorials refer to overview functionality which is not in yet
- Undocking with ANY turrets fitted to your ship will result in you getting stuck.
- WORK-AROUND: Since this test is focused on the Captains Quarters itself, avoid undocking entirely.
- Fitting tool is non-functional in this build
- Editing chat MOTD causes general UI failures
- Ship fitting action-object is not properly placed (Balcony location)
- Walking on an incline is quite jittery
- Stairs are misisng from the Minmatar CQ entirely
- Brakcets for action-objects are not working
- Hair assets are missing entirely from characters heads
- Captains quarters screens cannot be used via left-click (r-click still works)
Reported, but not yet verified:
- After exiting re-customization the ôplugsö on the neck are gone
- Skin is missing for some players
- Those without skin find their skin floating in the center of the CQ, completely red
- Re-customization to add the new hair results in black-screen on exiting NCC
- Adjusting ôcloth simulationö setting results in naked characters
- Re-docking results in being stuck, reclogging fixes
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Mintala Arana
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.20 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Callme Chuck Edited by: Callme Chuck on 20/05/2011 21:40:43 I'd love to help you guys test this, but I have all my slots on all my accounts filled and there seems to be a ten-hour wait to biomass one. Can we speed that up any?
EDIT: Looks like an existing character will work just as well, but I skip the tutorials. Well cool.
And I'm sure CCP wouldn't mind waiting until tomorrow for you to test, if it comes to that. :)
Downloading now...
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Gothikia
Regeneration
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Posted - 2011.05.20 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tanis
Skin is missing for some players Those without skin find their skin floating in the center of the CQ, completely red
Woah... talk about creepy! Any news on when a mirror might be done? Can't seem to log in. __ Gothie <3 |
Talin Ransara
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Posted - 2011.05.20 22:13:00 -
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Im not sure if anyone else has noticed, maybe its me, or my graphics Card, but when I'm in the Captain's Quarters, there Seems to be some kind of Film Grain effect applied to the screen.
When I enter space or Character creation however It doesn't exist anymore. Is this some kind of new feature or is it a bizarre Graphical bug that needs to be fixed?
Will update with Screenshots in a moment.
Please stand by...
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Lolmer
Amarr The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.05.20 22:41:00 -
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Edited by: Lolmer on 20/05/2011 22:45:00 You know, I'd love to help you guys test your own product, but every time I go to try and help out you make me download (at least one) 4G+ client, even if I already have a version downloaded and installed. I get these errors even when I try to keep the test clients updated. I was in on the last Duality test, yet the client still won't update for the next iteration.
Mac OS X
I have the following clients installed, both test clients give the following "error": EvE Tranquility Version: 6.44.259851 EvE Singularity Version: 6.43.243408 EvE Duality Version: 7.10.249611
Quote:
There was an unexpected error while retrieving update status:
An update file for your build number is not available. You will have to update manually.
Do you want to go to support page?
Yeah, no, not really, but thanks for offering. Even when I say "yes" to the question, it just closes my EvE client and doesn't take me to any support page. I manually go to the duality patch download page and, 'lo and behold, you have patches for versions before (247655) and after (258386) my current version, but not my version itself.
Good luck on your testing. Let us know once you've figured out how patching clients should work.
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EFsakura
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Posted - 2011.05.20 22:53:00 -
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Trying to test it but I have all 3 character slots filled, I started a biomass reprocessing but do I really have to wait 9 hours? Can someone for example GM or something... just make it happen? lol I'm pretty sure the 9 hours is only to give server time to process it or something. If not then damn.
Thanks For anyone who can reply.
i7 920 [email protected] 12GB OCZ Ram 2 x GTX460 Sli 4 TB HDD.
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TheBooky
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Posted - 2011.05.20 22:56:00 -
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The stairs next to the ship viewing on the balcony randomly disappear and while they appear to be able to be walked on its impossible to walk on them, maybe a rope is needed.
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DoeRej Mi
Gallente Red Sky Morning BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.05.20 23:02:00 -
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Edited by: DoeRej Mi on 20/05/2011 23:03:49 Test Results:
1- Good performace (Rating 4), no UI lag to speak of. Not the best framerate considering I'm running 2x AMD 6970 in X-Fire mode but always between 40-50 FPS.
2- Overall performance was good (Rating 4).
3- Zooming with the mouse wheel seemed to zoom at an angle for me, perhaps 45 degrees in a line from back left to front right in stead of back center to front center as expected. Got a crash when using the movement keys at the same time as bumping into a wall and rotating the view with the mouse.
Better frame rates up to 65fps in the hanger environment, than in the actual sofa bit.
One minor thing, perhaps the music should start at a much lower volume than the voiceover? It was drowning out the tutorial in some tracks.
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The Audithor
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Posted - 2011.05.20 23:13:00 -
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Maybe this is off topic, but I want to place idea here. 1. The sunglases can have few positions - normal (on the eyes), on the top of the head (as diadem), lower (down, on the nose).... and you don't need to enter the dresser to change it, right? 2. Rank markings - there should be something indicating the character rank in his corporation - CEO, Director, or something else. Also the rank signs can be designed as the corp logos and the medals.
I'm sure that nobody will pay attention to this, but it worth to try, right?
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