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Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.07 20:10:00 -
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Cede Forster wrote:derailing much?
Cede Forster wrote:sounds like somebody who represents the spirit of robbing and shooting anyone with no mercy or?
i still don't get the entire "eve is a hard game but you are too mean" fuss
i mean seriously, can the one guy who thought this was meant serious please raise his hand so i can tell him give a piece of mind
-- oh damn, i am so sorry, i did not mean that i would actually give him a part of my brain, i am so sorry, will announce soon that i wont be the new surgeon general after all -- totally inappropriate of me , i am so goddamn sorry You did it to yourself. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Cede Forster
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Posted - 2012.09.07 20:13:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Cede Forster wrote:derailing much? Cede Forster wrote:sounds like somebody who represents the spirit of robbing and shooting anyone with no mercy or?
i still don't get the entire "eve is a hard game but you are too mean" fuss
i mean seriously, can the one guy who thought this was meant serious please raise his hand so i can tell him give a piece of mind
-- oh damn, i am so sorry, i did not mean that i would actually give him a part of my brain, i am so sorry, will announce soon that i wont be the new surgeon general after all -- totally inappropriate of me , i am so goddamn sorry You did it to yourself.
not really, discussing the author of an interview falls within the scope of discussing the interview |
Myxx
Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance
581
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Posted - 2012.09.07 22:28:00 -
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I wish I knew his character name. I and I am sure many others have a desire to find and podkill him now that its known he plays EVE. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1134
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Posted - 2012.09.07 22:32:00 -
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Myxx wrote:I wish I knew his character name. I and I am sure many others have a desire to find and podkill him now that its known he plays EVE. Which is why we'll probably never know. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
106
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Posted - 2012.09.07 22:34:00 -
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I hate people with scary alt post. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4527
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Posted - 2012.09.07 22:35:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Chief representative? The same guy who tried to convince other players to harass a single depressed person till they killed themselves in real life?? You need to get your head checked.
Who? please leave |
Abel Merkabah
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
149
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Posted - 2012.09.07 22:35:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Myxx wrote:I wish I knew his character name. I and I am sure many others have a desire to find and podkill him now that its known he plays EVE. Which is why we'll probably never know.
I am assuming someone must know...
Maybe for the right price they'd be willing to share that info. James315 for CSM 8! |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
1283
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Posted - 2012.09.07 22:36:00 -
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Johan Civire wrote:I hate people with scary alt post. Weird how mittens continues to post with alts. There a reason for this?
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Myxx
Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance
582
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Posted - 2012.09.07 22:38:00 -
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Abel Merkabah wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Myxx wrote:I wish I knew his character name. I and I am sure many others have a desire to find and podkill him now that its known he plays EVE. Which is why we'll probably never know. I am assuming someone must know... Maybe for the right price they'd be willing to share that info. Mittens definitely knows, I'm sure. How many others do? I bet a few in TEST do. Its a matter of getting them to squeal but not loudly enough to tip Smed off before it can be acted on.
meh. another long term goal to the list, i guess. |
Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
106
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Posted - 2012.09.07 22:40:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Johan Civire wrote:I hate people with scary alt post. Weird how mittens continues to post with alts. There a reason for this?
I think its always the same QQ people that like to f*ck around here. For some reason the like it to. If the had balls or female gender the will post not with there alts here. Just saying |
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Tarn Kugisa
Infinite Covenant Tribal Band
127
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Posted - 2012.09.07 22:43:00 -
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I thought this was about the Sisters of EVE Happily I was mistaken I Endorse this Product and/or Service Source Recorder-esque tool for EVE |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
239
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Posted - 2012.09.07 23:10:00 -
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Still using alts to promote "I wanna be important in a game", Mittens?
"CCP, is a cutting edge developer, they have found a way to sell lag to their customers, and make them believe it's a feature." |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4527
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Posted - 2012.09.07 23:26:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Still using alts to promote "I wanna be important in a game", Mittens?
look at you posting above your weight please leave |
LilRemmy
Synaptic Void
46
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Posted - 2012.09.08 00:13:00 -
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Interview with THE most hated guy in the MMO world.
PS: Thanks again for destroying SWG Smed.
PSS: The guy always lies. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1136
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Posted - 2012.09.08 00:16:00 -
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LilRemmy wrote:Interview with THE most hated guy in the MMO world.
PS: Thanks again for destroying SWG Smed.
PSS: The guy always lies. Apparently he likes Drakes though. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Ginger Jesus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.09.08 01:55:00 -
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Braxus Deninard wrote:Very nice little interview there, this makes me even more interested in Planetside knowing that they actually have a pretty intelligent guy at the helm.
Yes the guy that brought you Everquest 2 and Vanguard...
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2099
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Posted - 2012.09.08 01:57:00 -
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Ginger Jesus wrote:Braxus Deninard wrote:Very nice little interview there, this makes me even more interested in Planetside knowing that they actually have a pretty intelligent guy at the helm. Yes the guy that brought you Everquest 2 and Vanguard...
Hey, those were pretty good... :trollface: "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Lucky Dragon Convenience
466
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Posted - 2012.09.08 02:27:00 -
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Tear Miner wrote:Stopped reading after he said his favorite ship was the Drake. Also, ads on the mittani's site? Pfft, I'd rather not support that already-rich-retired lawyer. Right, because he should run the site out of his own pocket.
People like you are why we can't have nice things.
Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
2050
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Posted - 2012.09.08 02:31:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Johan Civire wrote:I hate people with scary alt post. Weird how mittens continues to post with alts. There a reason for this?
Turns out All of Goonswarm are just alts of his, there are no limits to the length he will go to make himself look loved/popular/wanted. |
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
149
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Posted - 2012.09.08 03:58:00 -
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Started to read, but then noticed the URL...nevermind. It is the greatest inequality to try to make unequal things equal. |
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Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
2069
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Posted - 2012.09.08 04:07:00 -
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Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:Started to read, but then noticed the URL...nevermind.
You would think they would at least try to hide the link to get us to click it...but nobody said Goons were smart. |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
1286
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Posted - 2012.09.08 04:11:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Turns out All of Goonswarm are just alts of his, there are no limits to the length he will go to make himself look loved/popular/wanted. I KNEW IT!!! I always had my suspicions, but wasn't one hundred percent about it. This explains so much. Finally, I can sleep well at night.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Viktor Fel
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.09.08 05:01:00 -
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At least he isn't that derpy carebear John Smedley. |
Vertinox
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.08 06:09:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Tippia wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Yeah but look at the community he's come to understand that value in... One that has fun playing games together rather than getting their panties in a twist over every little thing. Excellent choice, I must say. I am a husband and a father. I like to think a good one. I like puppies and sunny days. I run a non-profit organization that helps alcoholics and drug addicts straighten out their lives. The group of people I play with are some of the brightest and best folks I've never met. All because I chose to play the role of a villain in a role-playing game doesn't make me a terrible person IRL. The same goes for Smed, and CCP employees. People join guilds or corporations to play with people they enjoy hanging out with.
Except Eve isn't a role playing game. People lose real life money by losing ships. In effect, when you pop a ship you are in effect taking money from someone else.
What is it right now.... 500 mil per plex now. Thats $15 bucks for every two battleships you blow up (rough guess). Thats someones money you are burning through if you do it non-conensually.
Eve isn't a role playing game. Its a game of poker, blackjack, or whatever vegas game you wanna call it because you are taking money from other players and putting it in your own pocket.
That said, whether or not you believe Texas hold em makes you an evil player for taking the pot of everyone's money is another thing. I'm just saying Eve is not a role playing game. Its a game where money changes hands more like gambling games. Some people think that is evil. I'll let you decide.
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Cede Forster
53
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Posted - 2012.09.08 06:40:00 -
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Vertinox wrote:No More Heroes wrote:Tippia wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Yeah but look at the community he's come to understand that value in... One that has fun playing games together rather than getting their panties in a twist over every little thing. Excellent choice, I must say. I am a husband and a father. I like to think a good one. I like puppies and sunny days. I run a non-profit organization that helps alcoholics and drug addicts straighten out their lives. The group of people I play with are some of the brightest and best folks I've never met. All because I chose to play the role of a villain in a role-playing game doesn't make me a terrible person IRL. The same goes for Smed, and CCP employees. People join guilds or corporations to play with people they enjoy hanging out with. Except Eve isn't a role playing game. People lose real life money by losing ships. In effect, when you pop a ship you are in effect taking money from someone else. What is it right now.... 500 mil per plex now. Thats $15 bucks for every two battleships you blow up (rough guess). Thats someones money you are burning through if you do it non-conensually. Eve isn't a role playing game. Its a game of poker, blackjack, or whatever vegas game you wanna call it because you are taking money from other players and putting it in your own pocket. That said, whether or not you believe Texas hold em makes you an evil player for taking the pot of everyone's money is another thing. I'm just saying Eve is not a role playing game. Its a game where money changes hands more like gambling games. Some people think that is evil. I'll let you decide.
okay, let me break this to you as nice as possible
everything is "real life" because there is (yet) no way that something that involves interaction with other humans can be outside "real life". every game, every role playing game, every poker game and your dog exists only within the frame of "real life" and is therefore part of "real life".
if you want to stipulate that a game is not a "role play game" because people loose money, then nothing can be a role play game since every game requires you to invest at least time that you can spend working, hence loosing money.
and even without that, if you play a pen and paper role-playing game you use pens and papers which cost money so ...
to make it really short: the definition of a role play game does not include or exclude the fact that you pay or loose money through it
also, and this might be more important, people act depending on their environment, they "act" all the time. just compare how somebody you know behaves different in following situations 1) family reunion, 2) driving, 3) drinking, 4) shopping, 5) standing in line to buy an IPhone, 6) trying to get somebody to date him, 7) playing FPS, 8) posting on the internet, 9) playing poker, 10) working in the office
you want to live in your little world, paying for your battleship and blame people if they are mean to you, thinking that they are just like that outside of playing a cut throat spacegame ? okay, if it makes you feel better |
Vertinox
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.08 07:21:00 -
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Cede Forster wrote:okay, let me break this to you as nice as possible everything is "real life" because there is (yet) no way that something that involves interaction with other humans can be outside "real life". every game, every role playing game, every poker game and your dog exists only within the frame of "real life" and is therefore part of "real life". if you want to stipulate that a game is not a "role play game" because people loose money, then nothing can be a role play game since every game requires you to invest at least time that you can spend working, hence loosing money. and even without that, if you play a pen and paper role-playing game you use pens and papers which cost money so ... to make it really short: the definition of a role play game does not include or exclude the fact that you pay or loose money through it also, and this might be more important, people act depending on their environment, they "act" all the time. just compare how somebody you know behaves different in following situations 1) family reunion, 2) driving, 3) drinking, 4) shopping, 5) standing in line to buy an IPhone, 6) trying to get somebody to date him, 7) playing FPS, 8) posting on the internet, 9) playing poker, 10) working in the office you want to live in your little world, paying for your battleship and blame people if they are mean to you, thinking that they are just like that outside of playing a cut throat spacegame ? okay, if it makes you feel better
Ok Eve isn't a role playing game because its like a game of poker. It's because no one is role playing.
People who play Vampire The Masquerade LARPing are role playing. People who play Dungeons and Dragons are role playing.
People who play Warhammer 40K aren't role playing. They are simply playing a game to beat their opponent. Maybe I'm talking over your head on this one, but the majority of the people who play Eve onlein aren't pretending to be someone they are not. They are playing a game where ships are on the line. They arne't pretending to be an immortal poder but rather they are playing the game as if they were out to get as many ships as they can while destroying as many ships as they can. They aren't pretending to be a villian or a good guy.
Speaking of which... The majority of people who play MMO's don't role play. Role playing means you are pretending to be someone else. This person may be someone who is like you or maybe you role play someone who you are not.
But in Eve and most other MMO's players play themselves trying to win the game in the ruleset of whatever the game gives them. Be it levels, be it gold, be it isk.
I seriously doubt the CEO of sony sits around and says "I'm going to pretend I am person from the future and whoever I talk to in game I will pretend I am from the future and talk in future speak and have no understanding of the 20th century".
I hope you get my point. When you role play you play that character which no one does. Hence Eve online is not a role playing game so no one is playing roles except maybe a tiny minority of people who pretend they are from the future.
My point is that people play Eve as a game of poker, not role playing as they would if they were LARPing or pretending to be someoen they are not.
No one pretends to be a villian in a game of poker. You simply have the goal to take other people's chips. That is what Eve is. Not a role playing game. |
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
120
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Posted - 2012.09.08 07:32:00 -
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Quote:Maybe I'm talking over your head on this one
"Hold your breath, do not."
Lol, I role played Yoda there. Now Eve is an RPG again.
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
Vertinox
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.08 07:40:00 -
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Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:Quote:Maybe I'm talking over your head on this one "Hold your breath, do not." Lol, I role played Yoda there. Now Eve is an RPG again. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I for one look forward to being podded by Yoda. |
Ghazu
137
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Posted - 2012.09.08 07:41:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:James 315 wrote:TheMittani.com It's hard enough to force myself to read a post by you, but by starting a post with "TheMittani.com" definitely makes sure I don't continue reading. Wow this is coming from a dude who likes to like and get liked everyday in circle jerking and start other creepy threads. |
Pookie McPook
The Whiskers of Kurvi-Tasch
13
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Posted - 2012.09.08 07:44:00 -
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Considering I came back to EVE after having been driven out of EQ2 by the machinations of Smedley and his chums I find it ironic that the president of the games company renowned for its draconian disregard of its playerbase plays a game where the players are treated as grown up and with respect while seeing those traits as a huge plus.
Having said that, maybe the fact that I have played EVE as long as I did EQ2 (6+ years) made me realise just how cruddy SOE did treat its players. It's just a shame Smedley seems oblivious to it. |
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