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Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2011.05.26 12:38:00 -
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This is rich. Obama attempts to toast. "God Save the Queen" starts to play, which as a national anthem - is the cue to STFU, but Obama just keeps talking, and talking, and talking.
Its almost painful to watch, the Queen trying to give him a subtle hint to cram a sock in it, and him blatantly not getting it.
What an idiot.
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Iva Posavec
Posavec Innovations Takhar Matari
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Posted - 2011.05.26 12:44:00 -
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Or the bandsmen started playing too early and cut into his speech.
Love watching the Obama trip bloopers, his terrorist proof limo being beaten by a bump in the road and now this, on the other hand if it had been George Bush visiting he would have a hour long blooper video circulating, heck he couldn't even open doors.
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Bane Necran
Furtim Vigilans
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Posted - 2011.05.26 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Iva Posavec on the other hand if it had been George Bush visiting he would have a hour long blooper video circulating, heck he couldn't even open doors.
It's not nice to make fun of ******ed people.
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Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2011.05.26 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Herr Wilkus on 26/05/2011 12:58:28 Don't know how Bush automatically became the topic, but Bush never pretended to be sophisticated.
Its all the more funny when someone as pretentious and supposedly 'cultured' as Obama shows us all what an ass he really is.
He's so self-centered, he was clearly thinking "Oh, how nice of them, to play music to accompany my speech!"
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Phoenix vajaa
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.05.26 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Phoenix vajaa on 26/05/2011 13:09:12 I would love to see any of you stand the pressure I have to. Being leader of the free world is not stress free. I had over 9000000000000 different Procedures to ad-hear to I can not remember what Order everything is meant to go in FFS it is bad enough I had all these great plans. Only to find That that I am not really in charge just have to do what a load of bankers say or they will have me shot.
YOU GUYS LIVE WITH THAT.
I forgot to mention; Stop F***ing calling me OSAMA.............
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.05.26 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Iva Posavec Or the bandsmen started playing too early and cut into his speech.
I think this is more accurate. - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring |
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.26 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Herr Wilkus
This is rich. Obama attempts to toast. "God Save the Queen" starts to play, which as a national anthem - is the cue to STFU, but Obama just keeps talking, and talking, and talking.
Its almost painful to watch, the Queen trying to give him a subtle hint to cram a sock in it, and him blatantly not getting it.
What an idiot.
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Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Vengeance Industrial Militia
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Posted - 2011.05.26 14:19:00 -
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Obama killed NASA. And he freed hundreds of terrorists from prison, IN THE UNITED STATES. There is no redemption for him. Impeach him. ____________ ___99075___ ^^My Signature is Better than Yours^^ |
Phoenix vajaa
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.05.26 14:27:00 -
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Edited by: Phoenix vajaa on 26/05/2011 14:27:08
Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Obama killed NASA. And he freed hundreds of terrorists from prison, IN THE UNITED STATES. There is no redemption for him. Impeach him.
Why should we do all the heavy lifting. Space is a long way and Sh*t is heavy. Let Branson do it for us, That was Osama keep telling you stop mixing us up. How about we Impale you..........
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.26 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 26/05/2011 14:30:06
A band leader interrupting a world leader during their toast is the epitome of etiquette.
Slade
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Iasius
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.05.26 15:16:00 -
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It was nice to hear Obama's mid western accent amidst the pomp and circumstance of the British establishment. It would be funny if John Sheridan from Babylon 5 replaced Obama in that scene. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. ~Saint |
Lithalnas
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.26 15:29:00 -
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Please forgive our man-child, he does not realize that there is a world outside of his own. -------------
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Marius Prime
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Posted - 2011.05.26 16:50:00 -
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As a Brit I approve.
No reason to stop talking because a old benefit scrounger had her favorite song played.
(If you can tell I'm in favor of becoming a republic)
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Culmen
Caldari Vigrior The Dominion Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.26 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: Culmen on 26/05/2011 17:01:33
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Iva Posavec Or the bandsmen started playing too early and cut into his speech.
I think this is more accurate.
I concur. This is not the Oscars...
I'm also sure that if Obama had stopped talking, this thread would be: "Obama Fumbles Toast and Insults The Queen" and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Gibbo5771
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Posted - 2011.05.26 20:09:00 -
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God kill the queen, useless person in a useless family
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.05.26 20:46:00 -
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Like any good leader he knows that if things go wrong, just keep on going and pretend that was the plan all along.
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Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
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Posted - 2011.05.26 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Obama killed NASA. And he freed hundreds of terrorists from prison, IN THE UNITED STATES. There is no redemption for him. Impeach him.
Well, I have to give him credit both for killing NASA and Bin Laden. NASA has verged on irrelevancy for a long time now. If he would just stop killing our economy and productivity our private enterprise will start opening up space to proper exploration.
As for releasing terrorists on American soil, I know he's talked forever about closing Gitmo but it hasn't actually happened yet. What did I miss???
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Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
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Posted - 2011.05.26 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Gibbo5771 God kill the queen, useless person in a useless family
Ha. The Royal family brings bazillions of tourist dollars to the UK every year. What have you done lately that is less useless? __________________________________________________ Name a shrub after me; something prickly and hard to eradicate. |
Iva Posavec
Posavec Innovations Takhar Matari
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Posted - 2011.05.26 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jno Aubrey
Originally by: Gibbo5771 God kill the queen, useless person in a useless family
Ha. The Royal family brings bazillions of tourist dollars to the UK every year. What have you done lately that is less useless?
Have to admit that you are right about that, the Royal Family bring in more money to the UK economy than it costs to keep by far, and hopefully one day we will have a more modernised Royal Family.
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Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2011.05.27 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 26/05/2011 14:30:06
A band leader interrupting a world leader during their toast is the epitome of etiquette.
Slade
Actually, if there was a band miscue, it was because of the unnatural, halting cadence of his 'toast'. Why? Because he is unable to speak extemporaneously, and was giving the 30 second toast from NOTECARDS. Because he was unable to say more than a few words at a time before needing to consult his cheat sheet, I can see how the band may have gotten confused.
You see, Obama is notorious for his complete reliance on the teleprompter, even to the point of having them present while speaking in front of a classroom full of fifth-graders, I **** you not. When they aren't around and he is forced to speak without notes, ugly things happen.
Obama has a good speaking voice. He certainly can impress a friendly crowd reading speeches off of an electric screen. Unless it contains hard words like "corpsman"...
But I think we can all agree that intelligence just isn't one of his strong suits.
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Culmen
Caldari Vigrior The Dominion Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.27 05:59:00 -
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Edited by: Culmen on 27/05/2011 06:07:31
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
Originally by: Slade Trillgon Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 26/05/2011 14:30:06
A band leader interrupting a world leader during their toast is the epitome of etiquette.
Slade
Actually, if there was a band miscue, it was because of the unnatural, halting cadence of his 'toast'. Why? Because he is unable to speak extemporaneously, and was giving the 30 second toast from NOTECARDS. Because he was unable to say more than a few words at a time before needing to consult his cheat sheet, I can see how the band may have gotten confused.
You see, Obama is notorious for his complete reliance on the teleprompter, even to the point of having them present while speaking in front of a classroom full of fifth-graders, I **** you not. When they aren't around and he is forced to speak without notes, ugly things happen.
Obama has a good speaking voice. He certainly can impress a friendly crowd reading speeches off of an electric screen. Unless it contains hard words like "corpsman"...
But I think we can all agree that intelligence just isn't one of his strong suits.
So now you can judge someone's intellgence by how they speak in public?
Let see... Bush had trouble even with a teleprompter. Required pronunciation keys next to every name and still got them wrong. Somehow managed to bungle "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!" Compared to Bush, Obama must be a genius.
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Whiskey Jim McGavin
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Posted - 2011.05.27 06:37:00 -
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Not only doe he not know to STFU while they are playing Queen Elizabeth IIs' Song.
He doesn't even know what year it is.
"Obama, who was touring the church Tuesday with first lady Michelle Obama, signed his name with the date "24 May 2008," instead of the current year.."
Source http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2011/05/26/Obama-signs-wrong-year-in-guest-book/UPI-95521306398600/
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Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2011.05.27 06:58:00 -
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Mystifies me as to how Bush, Palin and the Queen became the subject of discussion when none of these people were responsible for all the laughs I got from the posted video.
Obama: "Damn, my voice sounds good" Queen: "My god, what is wrong with this guy?"
Queen has to clue him in, and then Obama stands there with a priceless chimp-like expression on his face for a full 30 seconds.
Would Bush or Palin have handled it better? Who knows? Bush would spend his vacations digging postholes and clearing brush on his Texas ranch. Not wasting a fortune in taxpayer money shopping and sightseeing in Paris and Rio.
I've had the pleasure of meeting Palin twice. She certainly is far more familiar with gillnets, bolt-action rifles, and moose stew - than $1000 bottles of wine and 5-star cuisine. Obama would probably squeal like a little girl if faced with an actual live, thrashing 45lb Chinook. The only fish that guy touches has been heavily processed by a French chef.
But Obama is supposed to be the smooth, articulate, cultured one. LOL. Not. Empty suit.
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Brujo Loco
Amarr Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2011.05.27 07:21:00 -
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I laugh at you, you obviously forget our Reptilian Overlords sometimes phase in and out so much they perceive time differently from our own.
Anything that happens to them is just a "matter of factly" lack of synch/desynch with current time space continuum.
You are obviously a misinformed human and weep for your gene-seed as it will be deleted from the great Lizardman Cookbook. --- Viva VENEZUELA!!! Archipelago Theory
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.05.27 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Herr Wilkus Edited by: Herr Wilkus on 27/05/2011 07:08:37 Mystifies me as to how Bush, Palin and the Queen became the subject of discussion when none of these people were responsible for all the laughs I got from the posted video.
Obama: "Damn, my voice sounds good" Queen: "My god, what is wrong with this guy?"
Queen has to clue him in, and then Obama stands there with a priceless chimp-like expression on his face for a full 30 seconds.
Would Bush or Palin have handled it better? Who knows? Bush would spend his vacations digging postholes and clearing brush on his Texas ranch. Not wasting a fortune in taxpayer money shopping and sightseeing in Paris and Rio.
I've had the pleasure of meeting Palin twice. She certainly is far more familiar with gillnets, bolt-action rifles, and moose stew - than $1000 bottles of wine and 5-star cuisine. Obama would probably squeal like a little girl if faced with an actual live, thrashing 45lb Chinook fresh from the Kenai River. The only fish that guy touches has been heavily processed by a French chef.
But Obama is supposed to be the smooth, articulate, cultured one. LOL. Not. Empty suit.
Bitter republican detected.
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Kara Sharalien
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.27 09:36:00 -
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Edited by: Kara Sharalien on 27/05/2011 09:37:45
Originally by: Jno Aubrey NASA has verged on irrelevancy for a long time now.
NASA was and is extremely relevant. For example, The GPS satellites you take for granted were due to be pulled down and either fixed or replaced half a decade ago, but due to funding constraints, not a single one has gotten its required maintenance.
Those things are literally going to start falling out of the sky over the next few years, and since NASA has no money or shuttles at this point, the EU is going to have to launch its own system to take over.
I'd email them and ask them not to put any over north america just to teach you lot a lesson about global responsibility and nationalised narcissism, but that would be unfair on Canada and Mexico.
Originally by: Thuul'Khalat WHY YOU VIOLENCE MY BOAT?!
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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.05.27 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kara Sharalien Edited by: Kara Sharalien on 27/05/2011 09:37:45
Originally by: Jno Aubrey NASA has verged on irrelevancy for a long time now.
NASA was and is extremely relevant. For example, The GPS satellites you take for granted were due to be pulled down and either fixed or replaced half a decade ago, but due to funding constraints, not a single one has gotten its required maintenance.
Those things are literally going to start falling out of the sky over the next few years, and since NASA has no money or shuttles at this point, the EU is going to have to launch its own system to take over.
I'd email them and ask them not to put any over north america just to teach you lot a lesson about global responsibility and nationalised narcissism, but that would be unfair on Canada and Mexico.
Yes, because THAT'S going to help global matters. Go right ahead and sh!t on everyone because you're another America-hating d!ck from the UK trying to prove a point. That's the way to set an example.
Nevermind the fact that our satellites are your satellites as well, so see how far you get when you try to take "your" ball and go home.
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Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
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Posted - 2011.05.27 11:15:00 -
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Makes me laugh how quick everyone is to call Bush stupid.
Didn't you yanks vote for him? Twice?
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Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
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Posted - 2011.05.27 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kara Sharalien NASA was and is extremely relevant. For example, The GPS satellites you take for granted were due to be pulled down and either fixed or replaced half a decade ago, but due to funding constraints, not a single one has gotten its required maintenance.
Those things are literally going to start falling out of the sky over the next few years, and since NASA has no money or shuttles at this point, the EU is going to have to launch its own system to take over.
I'd email them and ask them not to put any over north america just to teach you lot a lesson about global responsibility and nationalised narcissism, but that would be unfair on Canada and Mexico.
That's not the point. NASA is a GovCo agency and as such is incapable of doing anything efficiently, nor can they make course changes easily when circumstances dictate.
If NASA, EuroSpace, and the like did not exist then you would have private sector companies competing to provide launch services and exploit space resources, which would vastly accelerate the process.
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Iasius
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.05.27 12:26:00 -
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I saw a documentary about NASA years ago. With bureaucracy it costs $120 to buy a spanner. But this is swings and roundabouts. I assume lots of very capable technical minds works for NASA because they love the agency. I suppose they could earn much more in the private sector but choose to work for NASA.
NASA has provided a lot of technology that has given the USA in the past an economic edge. But now there are very few trickle down technological benefits of current NASA projects including the international space station. Launching men into space to do stuff is primarily for national prestige. Which is why the European space agency does not do it. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. ~Saint |
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Wilhelm Riley
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Posted - 2011.05.27 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Iva Posavec we will have a more modernised Royal Family.
Hopefully something more like the family from Dirty Sexy Money.
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Cpt Placeholder
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Posted - 2011.05.27 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jno Aubrey If NASA, EuroSpace, and the like did not exist then you would have private sector companies competing to provide launch services and exploit space resources, which would vastly accelerate the process.
Your faith in capitalism is impressive. What makes you think any company would even try to start a business involving expensive travel that almost nobody in the world would want to do, considering the price or that many people couldn't, considering the physical requirements. What "space resources" are you talking about? The satellite junk they left floating around there? Or the incredible amount of dust on the moon.
When even the head of the IMF would rather **** a maid than do something useful with his money, I don't think your plans of private space travel will work out. Unless countless tax money funded government and university research projects make it cheap enough of course.
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Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
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Posted - 2011.05.27 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Placeholder
Originally by: Jno Aubrey If NASA, EuroSpace, and the like did not exist then you would have private sector companies competing to provide launch services and exploit space resources, which would vastly accelerate the process.
Your faith in capitalism is impressive. What makes you think any company would even try to start a business involving expensive travel that almost nobody in the world would want to do, considering the price or that many people couldn't, considering the physical requirements. What "space resources" are you talking about? The satellite junk they left floating around there? Or the incredible amount of dust on the moon.
When even the head of the IMF would rather **** a maid than do something useful with his money, I don't think your plans of private space travel will work out. Unless countless tax money funded government and university research projects make it cheap enough of course.
My faith in capitalism knows no bounds. It is the ONLY system that can be consistently expected to produce technological marvels in the service of wealth creation.
I'm not saying that GovCo doesn't have its uses in this regard - sometimes it can provide a kickstart to needed technology and of course military needs also drive a lot of (mostly private-sector) innovation.
The problem with government agencies is that once they have outlived their usefulness they don't die - they just find another way to spend the taxpayers' money.
PS. The IMF is an intergovernmental agency and as such its leader is a poor example of a public sector capitalist.
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Culmen
Caldari Vigrior The Dominion Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.27 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Culmen on 27/05/2011 16:34:32
Originally by: Cpt Placeholder
Your faith in capitalism is impressive. What makes you think any company would even try to start a business involving expensive travel that almost nobody in the world would want to do, considering the price or that many people couldn't, considering the physical requirements.
Most likely the fact that a business is trying to start a business involving expensive travel. You could have said the exact same thing about air travel.
Originally by: Cpt Placeholder
What "space resources" are you talking about? The satellite junk they left floating around there? Or the incredible amount of dust on the moon.
Hell yeah companies are interested about the dust on the moon. The moon is an abundant source of Helium-3. We just don't have the fusion reactors yet.
Titan has enough hydrocarbons just sitting around in pools to solve almost any foreseeable energy crisis.
You don't need a Hulk to mine asteroids, but a single asteroid could hold tens of trillions of dollars of precious minerals They could just re-direct one into low-earth orbit and take it apart.
Once you get sufficient space industry orbit side. The satellite junk won't be a resource, but it would sure as hell be a danger. Clearing might never be profitable.... guess NASA has a place after all...
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2011.05.27 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Kara Sharalien Edited by: Kara Sharalien on 27/05/2011 09:37:45
Originally by: Jno Aubrey NASA has verged on irrelevancy for a long time now.
NASA was and is extremely relevant. For example, The GPS satellites you take for granted were due to be pulled down and either fixed or replaced half a decade ago, but due to funding constraints, not a single one has gotten its required maintenance.
Those things are literally going to start falling out of the sky over the next few years, and since NASA has no money or shuttles at this point, the EU is going to have to launch its own system to take over.
I'd email them and ask them not to put any over north america just to teach you lot a lesson about global responsibility and nationalised narcissism, but that would be unfair on Canada and Mexico.
Yes, because THAT'S going to help global matters. Go right ahead and sh!t on everyone because you're another America-hating d!ck from the UK trying to prove a point. That's the way to set an example.
Nevermind the fact that our satellites are your satellites as well, so see how far you get when you try to take "your" ball and go home.
What, no blame-it-all-on-the-tea party rage?
Are you OK? Feeling sick today?
Someday I am going ask you what tea party you are talking about.
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Cpt Placeholder
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Posted - 2011.05.27 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Culmen Most likely the fact that a business is trying to start a business involving expensive travel. You could have said the exact same thing about air travel.
Interesting, pretty brave of them. The point about air travel is somewhat fitting, but even there as well as in space, government research made it possible, and I would argue that if it would be left to private interests, only necessary (large-scale) research would be done.
Apparently one company is actually already running, but they seem to be... dubious.
Quote: Japanese businessman Daisuke Enomoto sued Space Adventures as his trip was canceled by them for medical reasons after he paid $21,000,000 and no refund was given.
Also, apparently NASA is willing to help the company you mentioned.
Quote: In February 2007, officials from Virgin and NASA signed a memorandum of understanding to explore the potential for collaboration.
Originally by: Culmen Hell yeah companies are interested about the dust on the moon. The moon is an abundant source of Helium-3. We just don't have the fusion reactors yet.
Titan has enough hydrocarbons just sitting around in pools to solve almost any foreseeable energy crisis.
You don't need a Hulk to mine asteroids, but a single asteroid could hold tens of trillions of dollars of precious minerals They could just re-direct one into low-earth orbit and take it apart.
The earth already has (enough?) renewable energy sources but companies always go for the most profitable option while minimizing their risk. Without infrastructure/research from the government they will not explore other options unless they're cheaper or they are forced to do so. Even if there are useful elements on the moon, or might be on asteroids, there are apparently no ways to extract them efficiently.
Even if governments just want spaceships with lasers, the involved research is generally useable in many ways.
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Bane Necran
Furtim Vigilans
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Posted - 2011.05.27 18:27:00 -
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Extensive research into space travel has already been done in the private sector, with your tax dollars. It's called the military industrial complex, and all their technology is proprietary.
Just because they don't parade it around in TV doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The stealth bombers you are familiar with now first went into use back in the 60's.
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Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
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Posted - 2011.05.27 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Placeholder The earth already has (enough?) renewable energy sources but companies always go for the most profitable option while minimizing their risk. Without infrastructure/research from the government they will not explore other options unless they're cheaper or they are forced to do so. Even if there are useful elements on the moon, or might be on asteroids, there are apparently no ways to extract them efficiently.
There are no environmentalist whackos in space to picket the manufacturing plants, or Libtards to cry over the slave wages we're paying to the inhabitants of Ganymede. Yet. __________________________________________________ Name a shrub after me; something prickly and hard to eradicate. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2011.05.27 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jno Aubrey
Originally by: Cpt Placeholder The earth already has (enough?) renewable energy sources but companies always go for the most profitable option while minimizing their risk. Without infrastructure/research from the government they will not explore other options unless they're cheaper or they are forced to do so. Even if there are useful elements on the moon, or might be on asteroids, there are apparently no ways to extract them efficiently.
There are no environmentalist whackos in space to picket the manufacturing plants, or Libtards to cry over the slave wages we're paying to the inhabitants of Ganymede. Yet.
PETA could still get you.
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Kara Sharalien
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.28 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
Yes, because THAT'S going to help global matters. Go right ahead and sh!t on everyone because you're another America-hating d!ck from the UK trying to prove a point. That's the way to set an example.
I'm from Australia. Its very important for you to understand that not a single developed western nation likes your country as a political entity. You have a terrible system of government that continues to regularly impose itself on the rest of the worlds business. Thankfully, your government owes so much money now that over the course of the next few decades it will have to make the decision of either collectively giving blowjobs the UK, Australia and EU or fail-cascading and leaving its population a third world country.
Originally by: Jno Aubrey
That's not the point. NASA is a GovCo agency and as such is incapable of doing anything efficiently, nor can they make course changes easily when circumstances dictate.
If NASA, EuroSpace, and the like did not exist then you would have private sector companies competing to provide launch services and exploit space resources, which would vastly accelerate the process.
I have not so much confidence in capitalism. Some projects require huge amounts of trial and error that really will never pay off. The moon landings, for example, provided valuable data but were in and of themselves a useless waste of money. No-one will ever go to the moon on Saturn V rockets in a commercial situation, it could never be cost effective or safe enough.
The best people to lay that foundation are definitely government agencies. With huge amounts of money and no need to generate directly profitable results, but a far greater need to make it safe and reliable, they can create a much more solid basis that commercial entities can then build on.
In 10 or 20 years time, when government agencies have found a way to make the moon accessible, then there will be a groundwork enough to hand it over to commercial companies.
Originally by: Thuul'Khalat WHY YOU VIOLENCE MY BOAT?!
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Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2011.05.28 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kara Sharalien
I'm from Australia. Its very important for you to understand that not a single developed western nation likes your country as a political entity. You have a terrible system of government that continues to regularly impose itself on the rest of the worlds business. Thankfully, your government owes so much money now that over the course of the next few decades it will have to make the decision of either collectively giving blowjobs the UK, Australia and EU or fail-cascading and leaving its population a third world country.
Yeah, I had a feeling that THIS is why so many Europeans like love Obama. They realize that he clearly weakens the USA, as a nation. -Burning through money 5x faster than any President in history, on stupid **** like Obamacare and 'green energy projects' - leaving us with a mountain of debt.
-Driving up energy costs by wrecking our domestic fossil-fuel energy production with EPA regulation and locking up oil prospects.
-Crapping on developed western nations that like us (Britain, Israel) and encouraging our enemies in Iran and Hamas/PLO.
Obama is doing everything he can to weaken the US in the long term. Sad that such a man managed to get himself elected. Whatever Bush's faults - he genuinely loved his country. Obama - not so much.
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Bane Necran
Furtim Vigilans
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Posted - 2011.05.28 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Herr Wilkus Yeah, I had a feeling that THIS is why so many Europeans like love Obama. They realize that he clearly weakens the USA, as a nation. -Burning through money 5x faster than any President in history, on stupid **** like Obamacare and 'green energy projects' - leaving us with a mountain of debt.
-Driving up energy costs by wrecking our domestic fossil-fuel energy production with EPA regulation and locking up oil prospects.
-Crapping on developed western nations that like us (Britain, Israel) and encouraging our enemies in Iran and Hamas/PLO.
Obama is doing everything he can to weaken the US in the long term. Sad that such a man managed to get himself elected. Whatever Bush's faults - he genuinely loved his country. Obama - not so much.
Thanks to Stephen Colbert i can no longer tell if you're serious.
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Jno Aubrey
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Posted - 2011.05.28 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Necran Thanks to Stephen Colbert i can no longer tell if you're serious.
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Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.28 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Someday I am going ask you what tea party you are talking about.
The Tea Party that was hijacked by the Neo-Cons is what he spoke of. I do not disagree with a lot of what you say Herzog, but you acting like you have no clue what he is talking about when he mentions the Tea Party is kind of funny.
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
Yeah, I had a feeling that THIS is why so many Europeans like love Obama. They realize that he clearly weakens the USA, as a nation. -Burning through money 5x faster than any President in history, on stupid **** like Obamacare and 'green energy projects' - leaving us with a mountain of debt.
-Driving up energy costs by wrecking our domestic fossil-fuel energy production with EPA regulation and locking up oil prospects.
-Crapping on developed western nations that like us (Britain, Israel) and encouraging our enemies in Iran and Hamas/PLO.
Obama is doing everything he can to weaken the US in the long term. Sad that such a man managed to get himself elected. Whatever Bush's faults - he genuinely loved his country. Obama - not so much.
Nothing new here at all and you toting party lines just shows how ignorant you really are. What Obama is doing is just the next step in the ever increasing sentiment over the past 200 hundred years that US citizens feel they have had a god giving ôrightö to over consume.
Do you remember your father or grandfather saying the famous quote, ôI want you to have it better then I did?ö That sentiment has bred a fat, lazy, self entitled population in a world where you do not even really have a ôrightö to life, much less a ôrightö to anything else.
Does that mean we should stand by and take it? I would say no, but people like you and those on the far left of US politics, that constantly spit venom like you all do, will never solve problems, it just keeps tilting the seesaw in the opposite direction.
So keep up the ignorant verbal flame throwing, it gets a lot done
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Vogue
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Posted - 2011.05.28 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: Vogue on 28/05/2011 17:12:10 Well this is what I call opportunity knocks. The USA and its allies has talked a big game of spreading peace and prosperity. But through the 'thieves guild' of international politics it often defaults to turtling and aquiescence. which is the case with the winds of change at the moment in the middle east and north Africa.
To be or not to be
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.05.28 17:13:00 -
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Funny thing about Bush was he got voted in office twice LOL :US: .
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Posted - 2011.05.28 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos Funny thing about Bush was he got voted in office twice LOL :US:
You have to consider the competition. Al Gore? John "I Served In Vietnam" Kerry? And we're still arguing over the results of the Bush/Gore Florida fiasco.
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Posted - 2011.05.28 18:07:00 -
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Misunderestimated Bush has a manner that is like British upper class eccentrics with a wild heart who born into the top of a social order felt stultified so had a raucous youth before he went into the family game of politics. Like many republican presidents he rolled like a bowling ball.
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Posted - 2011.05.28 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Vogue Misunderestimated Bush has a manner that is like British upper class eccentrics with a wild heart who born into the top of a social order felt stultified so had a raucous youth before he went into the family game of politics. Like many republican presidents he rolled like a bowling ball.
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Vogue
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Posted - 2011.05.28 18:20:00 -
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Edited by: Vogue on 28/05/2011 18:24:28 More like Reagan with the view from a folksy golf club. He has a good sense of humor though:-
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Selinate
Amarr Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.05.28 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Selinate on 28/05/2011 19:51:21 Obama haters on a rampage? What's new?
Honestly, the guy hasn't done anything wrong by me so far. In fact, I think if I were president, I probably would've made mostly the same choices he has made so far, hence I support him.
Also, a lot hatred for Obama is still based in racism.... I wonder who in this thread feels that way....
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Posted - 2011.05.28 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Obama killed NASA. And he freed hundreds of terrorists from prison, IN THE UNITED STATES. There is no redemption for him. Impeach him.
Really? Can you name a single terrorist who Obama had released from prison on his orders? And I seem to recall, May 2nd, Obama ordering an operation that killed a certain terrorist that his predecessor could never get.
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Herr Wilkus
Originally by: Kara Sharalien
I'm from Australia. Its very important for you to understand that not a single developed western nation likes your country as a political entity. You have a terrible system of government that continues to regularly impose itself on the rest of the worlds business. Thankfully, your government owes so much money now that over the course of the next few decades it will have to make the decision of either collectively giving blowjobs the UK, Australia and EU or fail-cascading and leaving its population a third world country.
Yeah, I had a feeling that THIS is why so many Europeans like love Obama. They realize that he clearly weakens the USA, as a nation. -Burning through money 5x faster than any President in history, on stupid **** like Obamacare and 'green energy projects' - leaving us with a mountain of debt.
-Driving up energy costs by wrecking our domestic fossil-fuel energy production with EPA regulation and locking up oil prospects.
-Crapping on developed western nations that like us (Britain, Israel) and encouraging our enemies in Iran and Hamas/PLO.
Obama is doing everything he can to weaken the US in the long term. Sad that such a man managed to get himself elected. Whatever Bush's faults - he genuinely loved his country. Obama - not so much.
Actually your wrong about the energy costs. Even experts have testified before congress that our domestic policy will do very little to effect prices in the short term.
Secondly, Israel? Incase you didnt realize, to ever get peace in that region both the Palestinians AND the Israelis will have to make concessions. Israel will have to give up some of the occupied territory.
Burning through money? Like Bush? Who burned through cash after lying to the American people and the world to start a war in Iraq based on false pretenses of WMD?
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Amarr Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Selinate
Also, a lot hatred for Obama is still based in racism.... I wonder who in this thread feels that way....
Using the race card, tut tut
There is literally a "we hate the president / prime minister" thread on every other forum, what makes the Obama one interesting is because we see people over using the race card.
Man I hate people using the race card, this is why it is impossible to inform people of their errors, it is the worst possible way to defend a person too.
Well done Selinate you successfully managed to **** me off, im sure it is because im white, who else feels this way? .
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Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:06:00 -
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To all the Bush haters. President Bush has left the office on January 19, 2009. Mr. Obama took office on January 20, 2009. It is 2011 now. You simpletons should update your calendars, you got more than 2 years missing.
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:09:00 -
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This is why you should have voted for Palin HAHAHA aww man the political choices in USA are hilarious .
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Selinate
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos
Originally by: Selinate
Also, a lot hatred for Obama is still based in racism.... I wonder who in this thread feels that way....
Using the race card, tut tut
There is literally a "we hate the president / prime minister" thread on every other forum, what makes the Obama one interesting is because we see people over using the race card.
Man I hate people using the race card, this is why it is impossible to inform people of their errors, it is the worst possible way to defend a person too.
Well done Selinate you successfully managed to **** me off, im sure it is because im white, who else feels this way?
Its not some "overused card", its a true statement that there are many people who hate Obama simply because he's half black. Otherwise, I'm sure so many racial epithets wouldn't have been thrown around about him, when he first got elected especially...
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Selinate
Originally by: Kalle Demos
Originally by: Selinate
Also, a lot hatred for Obama is still based in racism.... I wonder who in this thread feels that way....
Using the race card, tut tut
There is literally a "we hate the president / prime minister" thread on every other forum, what makes the Obama one interesting is because we see people over using the race card.
Man I hate people using the race card, this is why it is impossible to inform people of their errors, it is the worst possible way to defend a person too.
Well done Selinate you successfully managed to **** me off, im sure it is because im white, who else feels this way?
Its not some "overused card", its a true statement that there are many people who hate Obama simply because he's half black. Otherwise, I'm sure so many racial epithets wouldn't have been thrown around about him, when he first got elected especially...
Yeah and many people hate the duo coalition in UK because they are white .
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Galactic Patrol
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Posted - 2011.05.28 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Selinate Its not some "overused card", its a true statement that there are many people who hate Obama simply because he's half black. Otherwise, I'm sure so many racial epithets wouldn't have been thrown around about him, when he first got elected especially...
Obama is special. Even the worst kind of knuckle-dragging, beer-guzzling, pick-up truck-driving, neanderthal racist in America can also enumerate several other reasons why he's competing with Jimmy Carter for the title of "Worst. President. Ever."
He may lose that competition as he beat Jimmy's record on successful covert ops in foreign countries using helicopters. But then, he still has more than a year to go.
As for the Race Card, it had been overused to the point that when someone pulls it out I don't even see it anymore except to flip the bird and dismiss it. I think more and more of the country is starting to feel this way - to the point where we may actually be able to have some public discussions about race issues in the not-too-distant future. __________________________________________________ Name a shrub after me; something prickly and hard to eradicate. |
Bane Necran
Furtim Vigilans
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Posted - 2011.05.28 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Caleidascope To all the Bush haters. President Bush has left the office on January 19, 2009. Mr. Obama took office on January 20, 2009. It is 2011 now. You simpletons should update your calendars, you got more than 2 years missing.
You are aware that the trillions of dollars the US now owes to China was done on Bush's watch, right? And because of that the US is no longer the land of the free, but a debtor nation, right?
Yeah, Bush Jr really cared about the future of the US. He was co-owner of oil-companies with Bin-Laden. And all of this isn't even hidden, or the realm of fantasy or conspiracy, it's reality.
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Gothikia
Regeneration
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:01:00 -
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This is more likely a failing of the diplomatic staff in regards to the royal protocol.
And yeah, 'the beast' incident was absolutely brilliant. All those gadgets and it gets its belly stuck on a security gate. How's that for an analogy of your stereotypical American?
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:03:00 -
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In the 1970's there was tight banking and finance regulation but President Carter started the ball rolling in deregulation. President Clinton did more deregulation. Bush did exacerbate the situation by tax cuts for the rich from the right wing fantasy that this would produce trickle down economics to the masses. There was a competition between London and New York and other finance centers in offering the most lax environments to do casino capitalism.
I will start to have faith in western capitalism when politicians mention financial crises centuries ago and the need for investment bankers to be doctors of capitalism. But the political system in the USA is broken with the left and right living in totally different moral and intellectual universes. Regulation alone is not the answer. It can stop things from going wrong but it can also stop things from going right.
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Gothikia
Regeneration
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:14:00 -
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to the poster above^^
YEAH! viva la revolucion! bring it on you capitalist pigs!
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Bane Necran
Furtim Vigilans
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gothikia to the poster above^^
YEAH! viva la revolucion! bring it on you capitalist pigs!
*forms soviet union mk2* (we reserved the name as a corp after they disbanded)
I like the way you think.
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Bane Necran
Furtim Vigilans
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:41:00 -
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On second thought, here you go.
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:51:00 -
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I like the lass with the drill
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Bane Necran
Furtim Vigilans
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Posted - 2011.05.28 23:23:00 -
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Another time, another place, i was known as this
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Bane Necran
Furtim Vigilans
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Posted - 2011.05.28 23:38:00 -
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I've never taken an oath. what i know is what i know
here's some fun for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwalO6-yR8Q
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Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
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Posted - 2011.05.29 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Necran Edited by: Bane Necran on 28/05/2011 22:02:46
Originally by: Caleidascope To all the Bush haters. President Bush has left the office on January 19, 2009. Mr. Obama took office on January 20, 2009. It is 2011 now. You simpletons should update your calendars, you got more than 2 years missing.
You are aware that the trillions of dollars the US now owes to China was done on Bush's watch, right? And because of that the US is no longer the land of the free, but a debtor nation, right?
Yeah, Bush Jr really cared about the future of the US. He was co-owner of oil-companies with Bin-Laden. And all of this isn't even hidden, or the realm of fantasy or conspiracy, it's reality.
Its reality only in your alternate universe my friend - maybe its your Crazy Pills? While Bush was no fiscal conservative, the current administration is making him look positively Reaganesque.
And why all the hate for Oil? Its the engine of our economy and President Bush understood how vital it is to America's needs. __________________________________________________ Name a shrub after me; something prickly and hard to eradicate. |
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Posted - 2011.05.29 13:06:00 -
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Seriously. Oil is important. Its like, the main ingredient in napalm.
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