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Marius Deterium
Crush Kill Destroy
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Posted - 2011.05.31 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: Marius Deterium on 31/05/2011 21:48:30 Edited by: Marius Deterium on 31/05/2011 21:48:09 Okay,
I hope this hasn't already been discussed, but ever since this Incarna stuff started getting serious I've been wondering.
Why are some capsuleers old, why do some of them have scars, or tatoos?
None of these are genetic, they are all a factor of physical experience, which like "death" is wiped away with the installation of the mind into the new clone.
So what every time I clone I have to pull out my knife and hack my face up again so I can have my cool pirate scars? What about my tribal tats? I got to get them all over again?
This sounds a lot like the Chewbacca defense to me... it just doesn't make sense. --- Good...bad, I'm the guy with the gun. |
Calathea Sata
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.31 23:10:00 -
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Cloning = dna injection + body molding, I guess? Otherwise there is no explaination of scars/tattoos...
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CCP Dropbear
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Posted - 2011.05.31 23:14:00 -
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Quote: Culturing a clone takes several months, but all clone stations store generic clones that are only put to use when a client buys it. The skull, and frequently other bones as well, is replaced by osteoplastic materials û soft synthetic bone polymers that can be shaped and then hardened by gamma laser irradiation. In this way, facial features and other body marks and textures can be applied very quickly. The process is very quick and is applied as soon as the clone is purchased. A similar technique is also used to adjust skin tones and give special skin marks, such as tattoos and scars. This means that the featureless clone is quickly transformed into an identical twin of the client.
From: Scientific Article: Cloning.
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Baillif
AQUILA INC
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Posted - 2011.06.01 21:01:00 -
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Facial surgery goes a little something like this
Eyes...nose...skin...it's coming off
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Marius Deterium
Crush Kill Destroy
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Posted - 2011.06.03 14:19:00 -
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Okay, so the canon explains how they get there.
So, I suppose if I go out and get a new super wicked tat I gotta go update my clone.
Also, what would be stopping me from cloning myself to look like someone else. Seems like this technology could be put to ilicit use quite easily.
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Baillif
AQUILA INC
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Posted - 2011.06.03 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: Baillif on 03/06/2011 14:57:58 Or better yet, what is to stop you from using the same clone info-morph transfer information to create several clones of yourself at once and make a huge self clone capsuleer army?
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Calathea Sata
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.03 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Baillif Edited by: Baillif on 03/06/2011 14:57:58 Or better yet, what is to stop you from using the same clone info-morph transfer information to create several clones of yourself at once and make a huge self clone capsuleer army?
True. I have always wondered myself. All it needs is a relay plugged at the rear end of the FTL router that transmitted the scan data.
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iyammarrok
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Posted - 2011.06.03 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: iyammarrok on 03/06/2011 20:33:25
Originally by: Marius Deterium Okay, so the canon explains how they get there.
So, I suppose if I go out and get a new super wicked tat I gotta go update my clone.
Also, what would be stopping me from cloning myself to look like someone else. Seems like this technology could be put to ilicit use quite easily.
Well, there is nothing, save of course the huge amount of red tape and involvement by various hard hitting law enforcement agencies, to stop you doing this... :P
in fact, there are chronicles about such events occurring....
however, i have this feeling that you would need a lot of iskies, and a lot of friendly, or otherwise convinced, scientist types to pull this off more than once... and more of the above (lots more) to actually get away with it...
for reference... the broker.
edit : in fact the broker reference works on both of the points raised here...
as for the creation of a huge clone army... consider that each clone would think it was you.... therefore every single clone you made, would think that every other one was a fake...
think of the psycological ramifications... someone, and you don't know who, has been copying you... a lot of you, and making an army out of the copies... you decide to find out who, and after likely having to kill 'yourself' more than once, find out that the person who copied you... all along... was another you...
but you are still certain that you are you... or is he you? which is the fake, which was the original, had you already killed him to get here and find out?
cloning is a messy business metaphysically... hence why there are so many safeguards and security measures to ensure that people clone as themselves, and can only have a single clone 'awake' at any one time.
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Norrin Ellis
Venture Racing
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Posted - 2011.06.03 20:30:00 -
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A certain suspension of disbelief is required to play any MMORPG. If we were able to explain all the details of how cloning technology works, it wouldn't be science fiction, but rather science fact. It works because that is an accepted premise upon which the game is built, and no more explanation is really necessary as to how it is so or why it isn't easily exploited in as many ways as our imagination can create.
At some point, the technology of EVE must be accepted as sufficiently advanced as to appear to be magic to those of us living in the real world of the present.
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