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Roosterton
The 57th Overlanders Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:02:00 -
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/signed, for once agreeing with an AFK cloak whine
It is a pretty ****ed up game mechanic that three-four cloaked frigates in a system can stop the profitable CA's from spawning. Not that I care, living in NPC nullsec, but still, it's a little frustrating that they don't have a better system in place. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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Roosterton
The 57th Overlanders Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Salicaz Carebears tears
Grow some ffs
Grow some? How is growing a pair of balls supposed to make sanctums spawn?
Oh wait, you saw the title, clicked on the thread thinking it's another AFK cloaking whine, and made a horribly ignorant response without reading a word the OP said. That makes more sense. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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Roosterton
The 57th Overlanders Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Salicaz
Originally by: Roosterton
Originally by: Salicaz Carebears tears
Grow some ffs
Grow some? How is growing a pair of balls supposed to make sanctums spawn?
Oh wait, you saw the title, clicked on the thread thinking it's another AFK cloaking whine, and made a horribly ignorant response without reading a word the OP said. That makes more sense.
Forgive me for not knowing carebear terms/problems but "cripple an entire system" would be considered a pvp term.
OP will want to edit it to "I can't make my isk because they bug annomalies in a system"
Quote: To my surprise it is not considered an exploit to AFK cloak in anomalies 24/7.
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Originally by: Tarminic
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Roosterton
The 57th Overlanders Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 08/06/2011 19:24:35
Originally by: Salicaz Thats just weak. For all I know they could be planning a cyno?
Except someone with reading comprehension V trained would be able to figure out that the OP isn't asking for hotdrops to be classed as exploits.
Originally by: Salicaz Either way my point still stands. Man up, deal with it. Adapt. As OP says, this is Eve. Crying on 2 seperate forums (that I've seen so far) isn't dealing with it :)
No, your point doesn't stand, it's a crappy game mechanic. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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Roosterton
The 57th Overlanders Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Salicaz
Originally by: Roosterton Edited by: Roosterton on 08/06/2011 19:24:35
Originally by: Salicaz Thats just weak. For all I know they could be planning a cyno?
Except someone with reading comprehension V trained would be able to figure out that the OP isn't asking for hotdrops to be classed as exploits.
Originally by: Salicaz Either way my point still stands. Man up, deal with it. Adapt. As OP says, this is Eve. Crying on 2 seperate forums (that I've seen so far) isn't dealing with it :)
No, your point doesn't stand, it's a crappy game mechanic.
Still, juicy tears
So is losing standings repping people in militia, thats been ignored for years. Adapt or wait. But you may be in for a long wait.
How is that a crappy game mechanic? If I was at war with a militia, I'd be pretty ****ed at someone who's repping them. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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Roosterton
The 57th Overlanders
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Posted - 2011.06.12 14:21:00 -
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The solution is flabbergastingly simple.
A) Make it an exploit or B) Make cloaked ships not affect the sanctum/anomaly spawn rate
Don't change the mechanics of the cloak itself, those are fine, AFK cloaking in general is fine. It's just this one mechanic that gets to me. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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Roosterton
Psychotic Delusions Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.13 04:06:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 13/06/2011 04:10:31
Originally by: BrokenBC Honestly while it dose suck when you need to get your grind on, Its a valid tactic.Having said that I think all cloaking ships should have to reactivate their cloak after two hours of being cloaked.this would preserve the tactic while insuring that players were actually there and not sleeping or at work. on the Bright side I don't mind seeing the bears that cant find time to fleet up and fight get dropped.Perhaps if they spent less time crying and more time roaming neut's/red's wouldn't have as much time to camp.
No, that is a bad idea, as it ruins the tactic of AFK cloaking for paranoia purposes and not sanctum-stopping purposes.
AFK cloaking in a sanctum precisely to stop it from spawning is, as it is, completely ****ed. They're completely stopping the victims from making any income from them, and there's no realistic way to force them out.
AFK cloaking for local purposes is completely different, as you're not actually stopping your targets from doing anything, and it's up to them whether to care or not.
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Roosterton The solution is flabbergastingly simple.
A) Cry.
b) Go do something else, there was a time not so long ago that sanctums didn't exist.
While I don't really give a damn about 90% of PVE activities and I generally agree with this, the fact remains that it's a bad game mechanic, whether or whether not I appreciate the CA-grinding profession. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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Roosterton
Psychotic Delusions Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.13 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 13/06/2011 14:58:44 Edited by: Roosterton on 13/06/2011 14:51:24
Originally by: Bucky O'Hair
Originally by: Carrelle Rouppon You're completely off topic.
Yes, the topic being:
Dear CCP someone found a way to stop my bots from farming santums. This is unfair, how am I supposed to make my billions of isk for RMT?
Please make the bad men go away....
Signed Mr Bot
Did I get that right??
In case you didn't realize, a stealth bomber being cloaked in a system would stop bots from farming sanctums whether or not it was physically stopping the sanctums from spawning. The only thing this specific mechanic is harming, is actual players.
It's kinda like this: Carebears: Waah, somebody is cloaked in my system, I can't do anything because they might gank me! You: LOL grow some balls if you know they're AFK LOL pansy for not doing anything because he's in your system. (Intelligent) Carebears: OK, we did that. (Intelligent) Carebears: Damnit, now they're sitting inside our CA's, what can we do? You: LOL grow some... oh wait, this thread isn't about that... I'LL JUST SAY STUPID THINGS HERE ANYWAY.
Originally by: Dracvlad As for AFK SB fun used as a weapon to make people think twice on Sanctums I have no issue with that, one SB I would do Sanctums in my Raven, had great fun when a SB went for me and he warped out twice and I continued doing the Sanctum, 2 SB's was more of an issue, so we grouped, we also set baits and then the AFL cloakers just stopped the Sanctums and Havens from respawning.
Indeed, that was very fun.
A 60min timer wouldn't be bad, but being able to stop them for entire days is just silly. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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Roosterton
Psychotic Delusions Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.14 02:03:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 14/06/2011 02:03:45
Originally by: Robert Caldera people use game mechanics to enemies disadvantage, how smart.
There's a word for that.
Exploit.
But so many people were doing it that CCP un-exploited it to avoid having to respond to petitions. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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Roosterton
Psychotic Delusions Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.15 22:54:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 15/06/2011 22:54:50
Originally by: Ivica Krump Edited by: Ivica Krump on 15/06/2011 17:27:41 My defition of word carebear:
A null sec player, who ignores social aspect of game and who is trying to do everything alone. Then when he is in danger he can't face alone or he is not willing to due to his ship worth billion isk, he comes to forum and he cries all day long about unfairness of EVE life and how bad CCP is.
FFS guys, you live in null sec. Do sigs with a friend and you will have ISK and kills too. Fit one ship for pve to grab agro and tank rats and one with point and web to kill reds so stupid to cross your way.
Null sec is not lvl 4 agent system. Dont try to make one out of it.
This is not what this thread is about, at all. GTFO.
Quote: If you have someone sitting in your sanctum, just go elsewhere. Null sec is large and most systems of your enemies are empty, full of nice anoms waiting for you.
How large nullsec is doesn't make a damn bit of difference. The fact remains that it's a bad game mechanic. You can insult people and call them carebears all you want, but at the end of the day, you're just making yourself look like a whiney little idiot who doesn't understand what's going on.
Not to mention that CA's are only worth it in specific systems. Saying "GO DO THEM ELSEWHERE" makes me think you've never left highsec. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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Roosterton
Psychotic Delusions Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.16 01:59:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 16/06/2011 02:01:14
Originally by: IIIAsharakIII Eve Online has a lot of timers already.....
So how about an AFK timer?
Eve needed this a long time ago, and it still needs it.
No!
The point of this thread is not to nerf AFK cloaking in general. AFK cloaking is a perfectly valid tactic, as it is not physically stopping anybody from doing anything, and it is up to the victims to work up the courage to do something. AFK cloaking adds risk to the world of happy nullsec NAP carebearing.
Contrast with what this thread is about, which is a 100% safe, lame way of making use of game mechanics to stop sites - which are supposed to regularly spawn with sovereignity - from regularly spawning.
OP, I suggest you amend the title of this thread to something other than "AFK cloaking," as it attracts people who
A) Think a little face in a chat window will be the end of the world. B) Are too stupid to read the OP and just want to troll you. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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