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Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.08 18:40:00 -
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To my surprise it is not considered an exploit to AFK cloak in anomalies 24/7. It's entirely unfair, there is no way to counter this, which is very odd. We're playing Eve after all.
If you're going to be working for a few days, just log in your three accounts and cripple an entire system for a few days with no risk to yourself.
Am I the only that thinks this is madness?
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Tau Ching Yu
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Posted - 2011.06.08 18:43:00 -
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Madness?
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Adarisa
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Posted - 2011.06.08 18:43:00 -
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::Nods::
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Ilykbois Butt4Sex
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Posted - 2011.06.08 18:44:00 -
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THIS IS SPARTA!!!!! |
Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.08 18:44:00 -
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Oh no... I said the M word.
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Tau Ching Yu
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Posted - 2011.06.08 18:46:00 -
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THIS IS SANCTUM!
Um, lacking a well here...
Anyway... It's lame, yes. If you have several hours and a smartbomb or a swarm of friends to ping drones between you could always find the edges of the grid and try and decloak him. In return for your day of play time he'll replace his 20k frigate and T1 cloak and be back in system 15 minutes after he notices he's dead.
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Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.08 18:54:00 -
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Well done CCP.
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Roosterton
The 57th Overlanders Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:02:00 -
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/signed, for once agreeing with an AFK cloak whine
It is a pretty ****ed up game mechanic that three-four cloaked frigates in a system can stop the profitable CA's from spawning. Not that I care, living in NPC nullsec, but still, it's a little frustrating that they don't have a better system in place. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?! |
Salicaz
Caldari Wolfsbrigade ShadowWolves.net
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:05:00 -
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Carebears tears
Grow some ffs
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Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:13:00 -
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Any respect I once had for CCP is slowly being flushed away. With other issues they've deemed them to be an exploit, but refusing to accept THIS is an exploit... is silly.
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Roosterton
The 57th Overlanders Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Salicaz Carebears tears
Grow some ffs
Grow some? How is growing a pair of balls supposed to make sanctums spawn?
Oh wait, you saw the title, clicked on the thread thinking it's another AFK cloaking whine, and made a horribly ignorant response without reading a word the OP said. That makes more sense. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?! |
Salicaz
Caldari Wolfsbrigade ShadowWolves.net
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Carrelle Rouppon Any respect I once had for CCP is slowly being flushed away. With other issues they've deemed them to be an exploit, but refusing to accept THIS is an exploit... is silly.
Because its not an exploit. Its area denial. They are preventing you/your corp/alliance from making isk or playing. If they are there but not doing anything they are afk and no threat, if they are there group up with a friend.
Coming here to cry like a baby will get ppl using agents to locate you and just do it for the tears. Man up and work around it.
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Salicaz
Caldari Wolfsbrigade ShadowWolves.net
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Roosterton
Originally by: Salicaz Carebears tears
Grow some ffs
Grow some? How is growing a pair of balls supposed to make sanctums spawn?
Oh wait, you saw the title, clicked on the thread thinking it's another AFK cloaking whine, and made a horribly ignorant response without reading a word the OP said. That makes more sense.
Forgive me for not knowing carebear terms/problems but "cripple an entire system" would be considered a pvp term.
OP will want to edit it to "I can't make my isk because they bug annomalies in a system"
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Roosterton
The 57th Overlanders Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Salicaz
Originally by: Roosterton
Originally by: Salicaz Carebears tears
Grow some ffs
Grow some? How is growing a pair of balls supposed to make sanctums spawn?
Oh wait, you saw the title, clicked on the thread thinking it's another AFK cloaking whine, and made a horribly ignorant response without reading a word the OP said. That makes more sense.
Forgive me for not knowing carebear terms/problems but "cripple an entire system" would be considered a pvp term.
OP will want to edit it to "I can't make my isk because they bug annomalies in a system"
Quote: To my surprise it is not considered an exploit to AFK cloak in anomalies 24/7.
-------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?! |
Salicaz
Caldari Wolfsbrigade ShadowWolves.net
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Roosterton
Originally by: Salicaz
Originally by: Roosterton
Originally by: Salicaz Carebears tears
Grow some ffs
Grow some? How is growing a pair of balls supposed to make sanctums spawn?
Oh wait, you saw the title, clicked on the thread thinking it's another AFK cloaking whine, and made a horribly ignorant response without reading a word the OP said. That makes more sense.
Forgive me for not knowing carebear terms/problems but "cripple an entire system" would be considered a pvp term.
OP will want to edit it to "I can't make my isk because they bug annomalies in a system"
Quote: To my surprise it is not considered an exploit to AFK cloak in anomalies 24/7.
Thats just weak. For all I know they could be planning a cyno?
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Salicaz
Caldari Wolfsbrigade ShadowWolves.net
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:24:00 -
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Either way my point still stands. Man up, deal with it. Adapt. As OP says, this is Eve. Crying on 2 seperate forums (that I've seen so far) isn't dealing with it :)
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Roosterton
The 57th Overlanders Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 08/06/2011 19:24:35
Originally by: Salicaz Thats just weak. For all I know they could be planning a cyno?
Except someone with reading comprehension V trained would be able to figure out that the OP isn't asking for hotdrops to be classed as exploits.
Originally by: Salicaz Either way my point still stands. Man up, deal with it. Adapt. As OP says, this is Eve. Crying on 2 seperate forums (that I've seen so far) isn't dealing with it :)
No, your point doesn't stand, it's a crappy game mechanic. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?! |
Salicaz
Caldari Wolfsbrigade ShadowWolves.net
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Roosterton Edited by: Roosterton on 08/06/2011 19:24:35
Originally by: Salicaz Thats just weak. For all I know they could be planning a cyno?
Except someone with reading comprehension V trained would be able to figure out that the OP isn't asking for hotdrops to be classed as exploits.
Originally by: Salicaz Either way my point still stands. Man up, deal with it. Adapt. As OP says, this is Eve. Crying on 2 seperate forums (that I've seen so far) isn't dealing with it :)
No, your point doesn't stand, it's a crappy game mechanic.
Still, juicy tears
So is losing standings repping people in militia, thats been ignored for years. Adapt or wait. But you may be in for a long wait.
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Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:28:00 -
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There is no threat, so everything you said was pointless.
The problem is the anomalies do not re spawn with a pilot on grid. It's not a risk or threat, or anything to do with PvP.
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Salicaz
Caldari Wolfsbrigade ShadowWolves.net
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Carrelle Rouppon There is no threat, so everything you said was pointless.
The problem is the anomalies do not re spawn with a pilot on grid. It's not a risk or threat, or anything to do with PvP.
Well post in the missions and complexes forums, and make it sound less pvp :)
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Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:32:00 -
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It's a warfare tactic.
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Salicaz
Caldari Wolfsbrigade ShadowWolves.net
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Carrelle Rouppon It's a warfare tactic.
But you said it had nothing to do with pvp? Unless its a thinnly veiled attempt at an afk cloaker thread it needs to be in the forum that is for pve stuff as i mentioned.
Bringing it to the warfare and tactics one just confuses players like me who whip up a troll :)
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:37:00 -
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Of course your usual HTFU noob here goes here.
... but how do you propose stopping an enemy you can't find, can't see sitting inside the plex stopping it from despawning? Griefing your local and making you fear the red boogeyman is one thing, but preventing an empty plex from despawning while taking zero risk and requiring zero effort is pretty bad. ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Manda Rin
Minmatar Sexy Thoughts
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:41:00 -
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This is a neat idea. Thanks OP.
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Salicaz
Caldari Wolfsbrigade ShadowWolves.net
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Patient 2428190 Of course your usual HTFU noob here goes here.
... but how do you propose stopping an enemy you can't find, can't see sitting inside the plex stopping it from despawning? Griefing your local and making you fear the red boogeyman is one thing, but preventing an empty plex from despawning while taking zero risk and requiring zero effort is pretty bad.
Well, not by coming into forums and making it known how much it bothers you.
And petition it, if CCP have said its allowed then meh.
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Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:44:00 -
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I just thought I'd let everyone know how to ruin game play.
Enjoy!
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Feligast
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:45:00 -
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I agree with the OP. How are we supposed to hunt and catch ratting carriers if the plexes are empty, ffs?
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Roosterton
The 57th Overlanders Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Salicaz
Originally by: Roosterton Edited by: Roosterton on 08/06/2011 19:24:35
Originally by: Salicaz Thats just weak. For all I know they could be planning a cyno?
Except someone with reading comprehension V trained would be able to figure out that the OP isn't asking for hotdrops to be classed as exploits.
Originally by: Salicaz Either way my point still stands. Man up, deal with it. Adapt. As OP says, this is Eve. Crying on 2 seperate forums (that I've seen so far) isn't dealing with it :)
No, your point doesn't stand, it's a crappy game mechanic.
Still, juicy tears
So is losing standings repping people in militia, thats been ignored for years. Adapt or wait. But you may be in for a long wait.
How is that a crappy game mechanic? If I was at war with a militia, I'd be pretty ****ed at someone who's repping them. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?! |
Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:54:00 -
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You're completely off topic.
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Kain Duku
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Posted - 2011.06.08 19:58:00 -
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Yeah, Ok yeah AFK cloakers suck but that's totally not the issue. The fact they are afk cloaking in the sanctums and havens is the issue.
As far as I am concerned they can sit in here all day but that should not prevent the player from choosing to go and make isk, they choose to run the site and make isk with that risk but the fact they are AFK in sanctums and havens means they aren't doing it for kills because well we cant rat so wont have loot and salvage to collect and ships wont do anything at all.
You can't combat that, yet other stuff in EVE can be fought against.
CCP fix it so they respawn whether or not a player is sat in it or not please, thx. |
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AFK Cloaker
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.08 20:01:00 -
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Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.08 20:06:00 -
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Edited by: Carrelle Rouppon on 08/06/2011 20:06:18 I see what you did there.
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Mfume Apocal
Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.06.08 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: Mfume Apocal on 08/06/2011 20:10:05 Yeah, sitting in a anom cloaked so no more sanctums/havens spawn is pretty lame.
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Kain Duku
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Posted - 2011.06.08 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mfume Apocal Edited by: Mfume Apocal on 08/06/2011 20:10:05 Yeah, sitting in a anom cloaked so no more sanctums/havens spawn is pretty lame.
Very I want to run them and wait for them to come and gank me/hot drop. But its more sucky because they aren't doing that |
Mutnin
Amarr Mutineers
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Posted - 2011.06.08 20:55:00 -
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It should be an exploit to AFK in POS's & stations all day. How am I supposed to get my PVP on if every ratting Raven & Tengu runs off to a POS or a station. This is denial of my PVP fun and it's why I pay CCP every month.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.06.08 20:57:00 -
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I AM LOGGED OFF U CANT KILL ME HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ~~~
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KFenn
Percussive Diplomacy The Phoenix. Consortium
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Posted - 2011.06.08 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Roosterton
Originally by: Salicaz So is losing standings repping people in militia, thats been ignored for years. Adapt or wait. But you may be in for a long wait.
How is that a crappy game mechanic? If I was at war with a militia, I'd be pretty ****ed at someone who's repping them.
The issue with this is that if pilot A and pilot B are in the same militia, then A repping B will cause A to lose faction standings with their own militia.
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari Percussive Diplomacy The Phoenix. Consortium
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Posted - 2011.06.08 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Salicaz Carebears tears
Grow some ffs
Coming from a W-BR member.... The irony meter just exploded |
Corina's Bodyguard
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Posted - 2011.06.09 02:03:00 -
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I am all for afk cloaking (do it sometimes too). But this is messed up. Its a broken mechanic.
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Mfume Apocal
Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.06.09 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mutnin It should be an exploit to AFK in POS's & stations all day. How am I supposed to get my PVP on if every ratting Raven & Tengu runs off to a POS or a station. This is denial of my PVP fun and it's why I pay CCP every month.
Yo, dudes aren't complaining about AFK cloaking itself. They are complaining that an AFK cloaker on-grid of the anom prevents it from being despawned. These dudes want to go ahead and rat with a neut in system, but can't.
****s whack.
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Silence iKillYouu
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.06.09 03:17:00 -
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Hello Wtf is wrong with ppl who cloak? If there cloaked they can't hurt u. If they unclock u kill them or be killed then come back with friends. The only ppl cloakers effect are bots who can't operate unless local is only blue.
Stop being such little girls and allways complaining about everything.
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Now doing Character appraisal's for the public.
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Quality Poaster SEEEEE
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Posted - 2011.06.09 03:22:00 -
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This is a "known issue," with anomalies and the fact afk cloakers are ~spolit~'ing it means litte. There are plenty of bugged ****ing anoms very much without the aid of :afkcloaking: so do us a favor and /diaf thanks.
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Altered Ego
Meatshield Bastards The Bastards.
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Posted - 2011.06.09 04:17:00 -
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Edited by: Altered Ego on 09/06/2011 04:19:49 As much as they are a pain, afk cloakers are not exploiting the game.
But there should be a ship that can scan them down/chase them off ... anyone remember reading all the numerous corvette posts in the Features and Ideas Discusssion?
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Pierre LaFayette
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Posted - 2011.06.09 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: Silence iKillYouu Hello Wtf is wrong with ppl who cloak? If there cloaked they can't hurt u. If they unclock u kill them or be killed then come back with friends. The only ppl cloakers effect are bots who can't operate unless local is only blue.
Stop being such little girls and allways complaining about everything.
McFly,
Learn to read before you spout off like an idiot. The issue isn't AFK cloakers, but it is about AFK cloakers preventing game spawns.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2011.06.09 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Carrelle Rouppon To my surprise it is not considered an exploit to AFK cloak in anomalies 24/7. It's entirely unfair, there is no way to counter this, which is very odd. We're playing Eve after all.
If you're going to be working for a few days, just log in your three accounts and cripple an entire system for a few days with no risk to yourself.
Am I the only that thinks this is madness?
no its ok, because its a very ineffective tactic to use 3 paid accounts to block stupid anomalies in one of 10.000 star systems in eve. A smart player would just go the adjacent systems for ratting or do something different at all.
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GODS H4ND
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Posted - 2011.06.09 10:16:00 -
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To clarify: This isn't an AFK cloak whine thread, there are already enough of those.
The problem here is there is no reason to get online and play because well we can't. Once one anom has been cleared that's it until the next downtime or a fortunate server crash allowing the AFK guys to be moved and the anoms to re-spawn. There is no issue here with the fact they could be going for easy kills and attacking people ratting. The real whine is the fact they aren't doing this.
It is broken and does need to be fixed. |
Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.09 11:07:00 -
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I had a nightmare about an invisible man!
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.09 11:18:00 -
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Another nullsec carebear whine - lovely
Missions & Complexes forum is the one above this - you'll be much happier there without all the scary AFK people
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Ile Disco
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Posted - 2011.06.09 12:20:00 -
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lol love the fact so many people can't work out the OP isn't talking about afk cloakers in general.
The fact is we wish they would bring it for some pew pew action, cloaky or not. The issue is them being afk cloaked in anom and not letting it respawn.
In fact it's in their favour to let it respawn, cos they can attack our noctis's when we hoover up afterwards to pad the w***e's killboard.
oh and this thread is now
mine |
Kain Duku
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Posted - 2011.06.09 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ile Disco lol love the fact so many people can't work out the OP isn't talking about afk cloakers in general.
The fact is we wish they would bring it for some pew pew action, cloaky or not. The issue is them being afk cloaked in anom and not letting it respawn.
In fact it's in their favour to let it respawn, cos they can attack our noctis's when we hoover up afterwards to pad the w***e's killboard.
oh and this thread is now
mine
Yeah bring on the pew pew!!
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.09 14:31:00 -
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Edited by: Othran on 09/06/2011 14:31:34
Originally by: Ile Disco lol love the fact so many people can't work out the OP isn't talking about afk cloakers in general.
The fact is we wish they would bring it for some pew pew action, cloaky or not. The issue is them being afk cloaked in anom and not letting it respawn.
In fact it's in their favour to let it respawn, cos they can attack our noctis's when we hoover up afterwards to pad the w***e's killboard.
oh and this thread is now
mine
Oh I know precisely what you're whining about. Someone is denying you the use of your space - or one VERY small part of it. Since that's all you're there for (PVE iskies) then nobody cares.
Enjoy.
Edit - I cba looking but its ALWAYS renters who start these threads. Nobody cares about you, go die.
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Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.09 14:53:00 -
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You've missed the point entirely. No matter what anyone says, it's not okay to be dumb.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.09 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Carrelle Rouppon You've missed the point entirely. No matter what anyone says, it's not okay to be dumb.
Indeed so stop doing it mmm?
You are having part of your space denied to you and you have no counter.
Welcome to Eve - there's hundreds of similar "working as intended" instances which haven't been fixed. The fact that your rent depends on it isn't a concern for anyone.
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Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.09 15:58:00 -
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Thanks for the troll attempt. If you have anything interesting to say, please do.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.09 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Carrelle Rouppon Thanks for the troll attempt. If you have anything interesting to say, please do.
Not trolling.
You are renting so sort it out with your "landlords". They'll probably be the reason the AFK horror is there - hint : there is some competition for renting these days since you all can't bot with impunity now. Add to that the fact that there's been a war recently and I think you might have other considerations regarding "denial of space"
As said before nobody cares about renters anyway.
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Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.09 16:34:00 -
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Awesome. Now let us talk about the topic at hand.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.09 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Carrelle Rouppon Awesome. Now let us talk about the topic at hand.
As in nullsec carebears needing to pay the rent?
Get in the bug queue...
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Bootleg Jack
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Posted - 2011.06.09 17:52:00 -
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Ignoring all the blather, cloaked ships shouldn't mess up game mechanics. That reminds me of a game from the 90s where if everyone didn't leave the area nothing would respawn.
Devs, if the ship is in the way blow it up.
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Sevena Black
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Posted - 2011.06.10 09:29:00 -
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I don't mind cloaking. I even don't mind cloaking in sanctums. I DO mind the lack of skill involved tho. I have a suggestion:
Current situation: Cloaking is on or off
Possible remedy: Cloaking module is an active module. It runs for 300 sec (5 min) and then has a 30 sec cooldown.
If someone is actually playing, he can still "claim" your sanctum by reactivating his cloak. You do have a very small window of grabbing him tho. This also allows the normal sneaking since you don't need alot of time zipping through systems and even 30 sec of jumping safespots will prevent from being grabbed in hostile space before reactivating cloak. |
Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.10 09:58:00 -
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From a role playing point a view. Would an invisible ship, 600km away, stop a fleet of battleships, battle cruisers and tackle frigates from warping in? No.
In regards to the cloak issue, personally I think a 60 minute cycle with a 1-5 second cool down would do the trick. If you want to actively screw with anomaly despawns, then you have to be at the keyboard. That would also stop the AFK cloakers all around Eve. However, for this particular issue, simply make the anomalies respawn even if there is a ship on grid.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2011.06.10 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Carrelle Rouppon That would also stop the AFK cloakers all around Eve.
there is no good reason for that, the rest of your posting is obsolete.
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Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.10 13:54:00 -
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I've got nothing again cloaking to scare the locals. Keep it up.
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Bane Nucleus
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.06.12 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sevena Black I don't mind cloaking. I even don't mind cloaking in sanctums. I DO mind the lack of skill involved tho. I have a suggestion:
Current situation: Cloaking is on or off
Possible remedy: Cloaking module is an active module. It runs for 300 sec (5 min) and then has a 30 sec cooldown.
If someone is actually playing, he can still "claim" your sanctum by reactivating his cloak. You do have a very small window of grabbing him tho. This also allows the normal sneaking since you don't need alot of time zipping through systems and even 30 sec of jumping safespots will prevent from being grabbed in hostile space before reactivating cloak.
No. If the game was only about sanctums, this idea would be less stupid. However, as a devout wormhole dweller, this idea would mess up the game for us.
Remember, the game is more than just your crappy sanctums.
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Roosterton
The 57th Overlanders
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Posted - 2011.06.12 14:21:00 -
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The solution is flabbergastingly simple.
A) Make it an exploit or B) Make cloaked ships not affect the sanctum/anomaly spawn rate
Don't change the mechanics of the cloak itself, those are fine, AFK cloaking in general is fine. It's just this one mechanic that gets to me. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?! |
Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.06.12 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Roosterton The solution is flabbergastingly simple.
A) Cry.
b) Go do something else, there was a time not so long ago that sanctums didn't exist.
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BrokenBC
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Posted - 2011.06.12 22:04:00 -
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Honestly while it dose suck when you need to get your grind on, Its a valid tactic.Having said that I think all cloaking ships should have to reactivate their cloak after two hours of being cloaked.this would preserve the tactic while insuring that players were actually there and not sleeping or at work. on the Bright side I don't mind seeing the bears that cant find time to fleet up and fight get dropped.Perhaps if they spent less time crying and more time roaming neut's/red's wouldn't have as much time to camp.
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Roosterton
Psychotic Delusions Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.13 04:06:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 13/06/2011 04:10:31
Originally by: BrokenBC Honestly while it dose suck when you need to get your grind on, Its a valid tactic.Having said that I think all cloaking ships should have to reactivate their cloak after two hours of being cloaked.this would preserve the tactic while insuring that players were actually there and not sleeping or at work. on the Bright side I don't mind seeing the bears that cant find time to fleet up and fight get dropped.Perhaps if they spent less time crying and more time roaming neut's/red's wouldn't have as much time to camp.
No, that is a bad idea, as it ruins the tactic of AFK cloaking for paranoia purposes and not sanctum-stopping purposes.
AFK cloaking in a sanctum precisely to stop it from spawning is, as it is, completely ****ed. They're completely stopping the victims from making any income from them, and there's no realistic way to force them out.
AFK cloaking for local purposes is completely different, as you're not actually stopping your targets from doing anything, and it's up to them whether to care or not.
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Roosterton The solution is flabbergastingly simple.
A) Cry.
b) Go do something else, there was a time not so long ago that sanctums didn't exist.
While I don't really give a damn about 90% of PVE activities and I generally agree with this, the fact remains that it's a bad game mechanic, whether or whether not I appreciate the CA-grinding profession. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.13 08:43:00 -
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I'm glad to see that some people have taken the time to think about this issue, and not just attempt to troll "carebears".
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Bucky O'Hair
Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.06.13 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Carrelle Rouppon You're completely off topic.
Yes, the topic being:
Dear CCP someone found a way to stop my bots from farming santums. This is unfair, how am I supposed to make my billions of isk for RMT?
Please make the bad men go away....
Signed Mr Bot
Did I get that right??
We are the Ushra'Khan, we come for our people.
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Dracvlad
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Posted - 2011.06.13 14:34:00 -
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Edited by: Dracvlad on 13/06/2011 14:38:06 This, at one point it was an exploit, but as they kept doing it and it was too much hassle for CCP to deal with they stopped classifying it as an exploit.
I for one having been on the receiving end of this would like CCP to respawn the Sanctum or Haven 60 minutes after the last rat was destroyed. As for AFK SB fun used as a weapon to make people think twice on Sanctums I have no issue with that, one SB I would do Sanctums in my Raven, had great fun when a SB went for me and he warped out twice and I continued doing the Sanctum, 2 SB's was more of an issue, so we grouped, we also set baits and then the AFL cloakers just stopped the Sanctums and Havens from respawning.
Originally by: Roosterton The solution is flabbergastingly simple.
A) Make it an exploit or B) Make cloaked ships not affect the sanctum/anomaly spawn rate
Don't change the mechanics of the cloak itself, those are fine, AFK cloaking in general is fine. It's just this one mechanic that gets to me.
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Roosterton
Psychotic Delusions Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.13 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 13/06/2011 14:58:44 Edited by: Roosterton on 13/06/2011 14:51:24
Originally by: Bucky O'Hair
Originally by: Carrelle Rouppon You're completely off topic.
Yes, the topic being:
Dear CCP someone found a way to stop my bots from farming santums. This is unfair, how am I supposed to make my billions of isk for RMT?
Please make the bad men go away....
Signed Mr Bot
Did I get that right??
In case you didn't realize, a stealth bomber being cloaked in a system would stop bots from farming sanctums whether or not it was physically stopping the sanctums from spawning. The only thing this specific mechanic is harming, is actual players.
It's kinda like this: Carebears: Waah, somebody is cloaked in my system, I can't do anything because they might gank me! You: LOL grow some balls if you know they're AFK LOL pansy for not doing anything because he's in your system. (Intelligent) Carebears: OK, we did that. (Intelligent) Carebears: Damnit, now they're sitting inside our CA's, what can we do? You: LOL grow some... oh wait, this thread isn't about that... I'LL JUST SAY STUPID THINGS HERE ANYWAY.
Originally by: Dracvlad As for AFK SB fun used as a weapon to make people think twice on Sanctums I have no issue with that, one SB I would do Sanctums in my Raven, had great fun when a SB went for me and he warped out twice and I continued doing the Sanctum, 2 SB's was more of an issue, so we grouped, we also set baits and then the AFL cloakers just stopped the Sanctums and Havens from respawning.
Indeed, that was very fun.
A 60min timer wouldn't be bad, but being able to stop them for entire days is just silly. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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Signal11th
Versatech Co.
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Posted - 2011.06.13 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Carrelle Rouppon To my surprise it is not considered an exploit to AFK cloak in anomalies 24/7. It's entirely unfair, there is no way to counter this, which is very odd. We're playing Eve after all.
If you're going to be working for a few days, just log in your three accounts and cripple an entire system for a few days with no risk to yourself.
Am I the only that thinks this is madness?
Why exactly is it an exploit? Is that Sanctum yours? Stick a Cyno-Jammer in system, Use a bait ship and when he pops up kill him, not hard to do is it?
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Dracvlad
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Posted - 2011.06.13 15:52:00 -
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You are obviously unable to read, we did all that, so they just waited until we did the first Sanctum after DT then sat in that and the second Sanctum and the two Havens for good measure until the next DT. Some of us went up and down the Sanctums in Dramiels to try to uncloak them, but talk about a needle in a haystack.
And yes the Sanctum was ours, we paid SOV and had it to level 5, I am no longer in 0.0 but I had great fun baiting SB's and setting traps for them. But you cannot do anything against the stop spawning AFK cloaking.
Originally by: Signal11th
Originally by: Carrelle Rouppon To my surprise it is not considered an exploit to AFK cloak in anomalies 24/7. It's entirely unfair, there is no way to counter this, which is very odd. We're playing Eve after all.
If you're going to be working for a few days, just log in your three accounts and cripple an entire system for a few days with no risk to yourself.
Am I the only that thinks this is madness?
Why exactly is it an exploit? Is that Sanctum yours? Stick a Cyno-Jammer in system, Use a bait ship and when he pops up kill him, not hard to do is it?
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2011.06.13 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dracvlad And yes the Sanctum was ours, we paid SOV and had it to level 5
that doesnt make anything yours. It is not your space, not your sanctum and not your belt. You just allowed to do certain things in the space you "claim", however it does not become yours.
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Darcy D'Spledide
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Posted - 2011.06.13 19:21:00 -
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I understand that sanctum-bunnies have a lot invested in this. But all you're doing is dragging out the debate of the bleeding obvious.
You are in 0.0 as part of an alliance. Some of your money comes from sanctums. Some other alliances have you set as neutral, or red, or are actively at war with you. You will spend the money from sanctums on ships to kill these people.
A cloak-nerf to secure your systems wouldn't make the game any fairer. It's already fair - if they're cloaking in your systems, cloak in theirs.
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Dracvlad
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Posted - 2011.06.13 20:38:00 -
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And you and the poster above are chosing to ignore the obvious, the simple fact is that it is a broken mechanic we had toons in our systems that were in condors with cloaks that were there just for preventing the Sanctums and Havens from respawning. THEY COULD NOT STOP US FROM DOING THEM BY FIGHTING OR HOT DROPPING SO THEY USED A GAME MECHANIC TO PREVENT US. See I spelt it out in capitals so you can get your brain around it.
You can try all you want to divert attention away from it, but it is a broken mechanic simple as that, what makes it even worse is that initially CCP were policing this then decided it was not an exploit, well its using the game mechanic rather like putting 2,000 cans out to create lag, CCP gave up policing it.
So for me I wanted them to either police this or to adjust the game mechanics to stop it, I for one do not want a cloak nerf in any way shape or form.
Originally by: Darcy D'Spledide I understand that sanctum-bunnies have a lot invested in this. But all you're doing is dragging out the debate of the bleeding obvious.
You are in 0.0 as part of an alliance. Some of your money comes from sanctums. Some other alliances have you set as neutral, or red, or are actively at war with you. You will spend the money from sanctums on ships to kill these people.
A cloak-nerf to secure your systems wouldn't make the game any fairer. It's already fair - if they're cloaking in your systems, cloak in theirs.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2011.06.13 20:44:00 -
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people use game mechanics to enemies disadvantage, how smart.
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Roosterton
Psychotic Delusions Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.14 02:03:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 14/06/2011 02:03:45
Originally by: Robert Caldera people use game mechanics to enemies disadvantage, how smart.
There's a word for that.
Exploit.
But so many people were doing it that CCP un-exploited it to avoid having to respond to petitions. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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James Morgan
Caldari Rim Collection RC Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.14 06:39:00 -
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Simple solution : Just add code that makes Anomalies despawn after a set time once they have been completed.
This will make the afk cloakers to actually do something to lock down the anomaly based income generation of a system.
In current scenario we have cloaky ships hanging afk on grid in anomalies in a system. They can do nothing else and still be able to shut down anomalies spawning in that system. As this course of action is relatively risk free so everyone opts for it resulting in less activity in the system. The residents can't find them and can neither bait them, so in the end they will usually end up leaving the system.
On the other hand if the anomalies were to despawn after a set time interval when they are completed. The residents would still be able to run anomalies in the system if they want to do so with cloaky hostiles in the system. Now this leads to interesting situation, will the residents risk their ships, while the cloakers can pick their targets at will or it that a bait or will their trap get hotdropped by black ops. This scenario results in much more interesting alternatives.
Now coming to the present situation, what should the residents do once their precious system's anomalies has been held hostage by few afk cloakers. You can't remove them, they are generally alts and they would be on their mains happily doing their stuff. so you can't assume that they will get bored and leave the system. The only solution for the current problem is leave that system, move to a new farming location, bubble up your farming system, maintain scouts in adjacent system, be ready to form fast gang to get those cloaky ships once they enter your system. It will require effort but that's the way it going to be for a while until it is fixed be CCP.
If you don't have other systems to rat into or you are just a small renter alliance, go back empire/lowsec/WH there is nothing you can do here. Its your fault in letting those cloakers set up a camp in your system. Go find some other avenues for isk generation.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.06.14 08:26:00 -
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Damn, I hadn't thought about that. That is even more annoying than normal AFK cloakers.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2011.06.14 08:51:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Caldera on 14/06/2011 08:59:02
sanctum blocker is probably just a stepping stone to a more dedicated afk cloaker while training for a bomber; because there is no point of having people in sanctums in your system if you're just in a T1 cloaky frigate and cant kill them anyways.
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James Morgan
Caldari Rim Collection RC Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.14 09:17:00 -
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Edited by: James Morgan on 14/06/2011 09:17:59
Originally by: Robert Caldera Edited by: Robert Caldera on 14/06/2011 08:59:02
sanctum blocker is probably just a stepping stone to a more dedicated afk cloaker while training for a bomber; because there is no point of having people in sanctums in your system if you're just in a T1 cloaky frigate and cant kill them anyways.
Not necessarily, I can just quick train an alt on my 2nd account to use cloaks. Get a few people to do it and scout those alts to that -0.9 or above security system and you can shut down all isk generation from anomalies there.
For fun you can also use the T1 ewar frigate(like griffin) and make them unprobable using 2 active eccm. They are not able to warp cloaked but you can then easily make safe spots with them. Also this will make those leet pvpers waste time on scanning you down when you are not cloaked.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2011.06.14 09:22:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Caldera on 14/06/2011 09:22:52
Originally by: James Morgan
Not necessarily, I can just quick train an alt on my 2nd account to use cloaks. Get a few people to do it and scout those alts to that -0.9 or above security system and you can shut down all isk generation from anomalies there.
mh, this is not somehow related to what I stated, is it? Whats your point?
Originally by: James Morgan For fun you can also use the T1 ewar frigate(like griffin) and make them unprobable using 2 active eccm. They are not able to warp cloaked but you can then easily make safe spots with them. Also this will make those leet pvpers waste time on scanning you down when you are not cloaked.
leet pvpers would just break the safespot without scanning. You never heard that? Its even not that hard, especially if the dude is afk and you have a plenty of time to do that.
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James Morgan
Caldari Rim Collection RC Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.14 09:40:00 -
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Edited by: James Morgan on 14/06/2011 09:43:33 Edited by: James Morgan on 14/06/2011 09:42:24 Edited by: James Morgan on 14/06/2011 09:41:37
Originally by: Robert Caldera Edited by: Robert Caldera on 14/06/2011 09:22:52
Originally by: James Morgan
Not necessarily, I can just quick train an alt on my 2nd account to use cloaks. Get a few people to do it and scout those alts to that -0.9 or above security system and you can shut down all isk generation from anomalies there.
mh, this is not somehow related to what I stated, is it? Whats your point?
Originally by: James Morgan For fun you can also use the T1 ewar frigate(like griffin) and make them unprobable using 2 active eccm. They are not able to warp cloaked but you can then easily make safe spots with them. Also this will make those leet pvpers waste time on scanning you down when you are not cloaked.
leet pvpers would just break the safespot without scanning. You never heard that? Its even not that hard, especially if the dude is afk and you have a plenty of time to do that.
first was for what you said
Quote: sanctum blocker is probably just a stepping stone to a more dedicated afk cloaker while training for a bomber
I need not train anything else on that alt, except for it to act as a sanctum blocker. but yeah training for bomber would be the right way to go.
second, yeah my mistake, you are right going afk without cloak even unprobable ship can lead to destruction.
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Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.06.14 11:30:00 -
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I had no idea this had been considered an exploit by CCP, and only recently has become a legal tactic. How lazy of them.
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Dracvlad
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Posted - 2011.06.14 12:32:00 -
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Edited by: Dracvlad on 14/06/2011 12:38:49 Initially our petitions were acted on, but we only petitioned when a Sanctum did not respawn, but I guess some people over used this against AFK cloakers who of course (sarc) were innocently sitting in a Sanctum and went AFK when waiting for an opportunity to attack, so they decided not to treat it as an exploit. Now I kinda understand that with SB's but when we had T1 frigates with cloaks coming in CCP did not even act on that, its pretty damn obvious that they were not there to gank... CCP if they were on the ball would have acted on those, but did not.
In terms of our approach, we had a lot of stupid carebears who lost ships willy nilly to SB's, but we set traps for them, Covert ops with points and webs so that they could be blown up by the bait ship or the covert ops. The enemy brought in a Vaga with a cloak to stop us so we set a trap and killed the Vaga, and it went on like this, that was great fun, we did CA's in groups that they could not take, the system was cyno jammed and then they started to stay in the CA. When they did that we complained and the ones that had done that disappeared from local, but then when the new lot started doing it the GM told us that it was not an exploit, it turned what had been a fun cat and mouse game into a pure annoyance, totally lame, by those that do it and CCP for being so weak.
I am not bothering with SOV 0.0 after that, its not worth it for any medium sized alliance, if your cyno jammed system can be made worthless like that and its allowed, its just so lame of CCP and the self proclaimed leet PvP'rs who do it...
Originally by: Carrelle Rouppon I had no idea this had been considered an exploit by CCP, and only recently has become a legal tactic. How lazy of them.
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Enik3
Crimson Empire. Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.06.15 15:28:00 -
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I don't really PVE and have never been in a sanctum, but I do think that a game condoning a 0% risk/100% reward AFK play style makes exactly zero sense.
But hey this is CCP we're talking about and we'll have walking in stations soon, so if you don't like it, go back to EVE...I mean WOW.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2011.06.15 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Enik3 I don't really PVE and have never been in a sanctum, but I do think that a game condoning a 0% risk/100% reward AFK play style makes exactly zero sense.
yeah, let us shoot hogs^^ ehm pirate ships in belt for SP, because gaining them afk or even OFFLINE at 0% risk cant be right and makes exactly zero sense.
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Ivica Krump
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Posted - 2011.06.15 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Ivica Krump on 15/06/2011 17:27:41 My defition of word carebear:
A null sec player, who ignores social aspect of game and who is trying to do everything alone. Then when he is in danger he can't face alone or he is not willing to due to his ship worth billion isk, he comes to forum and he cries all day long about unfairness of EVE life and how bad CCP is.
FFS guys, you live in null sec. Do sigs with a friend and you will have ISK and kills too. Fit one ship for pve to grab agro and tank rats and one with point and web to kill reds so stupid to cross your way.
Null sec is not lvl 4 agent system. Dont try to make one out of it.
If you have someone sitting in your sanctum, just go elsewhere. Null sec is large and most systems of your enemies are empty, full of nice anoms waiting for you.
PS: For those smart kids out there, yes I know there are pirate faction lvl 4 agents in null sec, but I hope you take the point.
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Roosterton
Psychotic Delusions Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.15 22:54:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 15/06/2011 22:54:50
Originally by: Ivica Krump Edited by: Ivica Krump on 15/06/2011 17:27:41 My defition of word carebear:
A null sec player, who ignores social aspect of game and who is trying to do everything alone. Then when he is in danger he can't face alone or he is not willing to due to his ship worth billion isk, he comes to forum and he cries all day long about unfairness of EVE life and how bad CCP is.
FFS guys, you live in null sec. Do sigs with a friend and you will have ISK and kills too. Fit one ship for pve to grab agro and tank rats and one with point and web to kill reds so stupid to cross your way.
Null sec is not lvl 4 agent system. Dont try to make one out of it.
This is not what this thread is about, at all. GTFO.
Quote: If you have someone sitting in your sanctum, just go elsewhere. Null sec is large and most systems of your enemies are empty, full of nice anoms waiting for you.
How large nullsec is doesn't make a damn bit of difference. The fact remains that it's a bad game mechanic. You can insult people and call them carebears all you want, but at the end of the day, you're just making yourself look like a whiney little idiot who doesn't understand what's going on.
Not to mention that CA's are only worth it in specific systems. Saying "GO DO THEM ELSEWHERE" makes me think you've never left highsec. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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IIIAsharakIII
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.06.16 01:06:00 -
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Eve Online has a lot of timers already.....
So how about an AFK timer?
Eve needed this a long time ago, and it still needs it.
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Roosterton
Psychotic Delusions Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.16 01:59:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 16/06/2011 02:01:14
Originally by: IIIAsharakIII Eve Online has a lot of timers already.....
So how about an AFK timer?
Eve needed this a long time ago, and it still needs it.
No!
The point of this thread is not to nerf AFK cloaking in general. AFK cloaking is a perfectly valid tactic, as it is not physically stopping anybody from doing anything, and it is up to the victims to work up the courage to do something. AFK cloaking adds risk to the world of happy nullsec NAP carebearing.
Contrast with what this thread is about, which is a 100% safe, lame way of making use of game mechanics to stop sites - which are supposed to regularly spawn with sovereignity - from regularly spawning.
OP, I suggest you amend the title of this thread to something other than "AFK cloaking," as it attracts people who
A) Think a little face in a chat window will be the end of the world. B) Are too stupid to read the OP and just want to troll you. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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LiSung
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Posted - 2011.06.16 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: IIIAsharakIII Eve Online has a lot of timers already.....
So how about an AFK timer?
Eve needed this a long time ago, and it still needs it.
No, because this means that you'd have to push a button every 108 minutes to prevent your scout alt from being logged out or revealed or whatever you think should happen.
Just fix the spawning system so that a site can "despawn" with someone in it after a certain length of time.
I have seen the acceleration gate for a Gurista Scout Outpost (highsec 4/10) DISAPPEAR before my eyes. It was something I could consistently recreate and so far as I know, it still can happen. So it's certainly possible to make sites disappear with people looking at them.
The only downside of this I see would be that a site could disappear while you're mining rocks that spawned with it, but if we're talking about nullsec ratting there are plenty of belts to mine.
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Dracvlad
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Posted - 2011.06.16 06:32:00 -
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Roosterton, that Troll embarrased himself with that post which showed a complete ignorance on how 0.0 works, he needs to read up what advantages a -1.00 system gives with full upgrades.
As Roosterton pointed out this thread is about the lame use of an exploit to prevent Sov holders from running Sanctums, not some lame players definition of carebears, nor is it abot AFK cloakers in general which is a perfectly valid strategy and one we enjoyed trying to counter.
I understand why CCP in the end did not police this as I would expect people tried to petition people who were AFK cloaking in general, or those that were using this lame tactic pleaded innocence of intent. I have been a GM in another game, so have seen this type of thing used by both sides. But CCP should try harder on this, perhaps with less systems having Sanctums and Havens they may up their game on this, I hope so.
The simple way to deal with it is to put a timer on it from the time that the last rat was destroyed, the Ring Sanctums don't have roids from memory, but the station ones do so that is a complication, that was a good point raised, but we never mined them, we mined the specific sites.
Nerfing cloaks is not something I would support in anyway, I seriously believe that intelligent play can deal with the AFK cloakers, apart from this exploit of course.
Now lets see how many more divert the thread posts we get after this?
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2011.06.16 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: IIIAsharakIII
Eve needed this a long time ago, and it still needs it.
it does not and never did.
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ResearchGuy10k
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Posted - 2011.06.16 09:58:00 -
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Edited by: ResearchGuy10k on 16/06/2011 10:09:01 Leave the cloaking as it is, people can cloak up all day everyday if they want to.
But yes, what need's to be addressed is the issue of sites not re-spawning because someone is sat in there. This should be considered an exploit and be addressed. Here's a response from a GM I received in regards to this topic:
"Hi there, this is GM. I honestly couldn't say why the decision was made that this would not be an exploit but I regret that there is nothing that I can personally do to affect this. I suggest that you post about this and any other suggestions you might have for optimizing and improving the game in the Features and Ideas Discussion section of our official forums. The Dev Team regularly reads it and takes feedback into consideration while working their hardest to improve the game. Here is a direct link to the section :
Features and Ideas
You can also try to create a topic on the Council of Stellar Management (CSM) boards and get people to support it. The CSM will then bring the issue to the attention of CCP's developers. Here is a link to the assembly hall boards:
CSM Boards
Kind Regards, GM EVE Online Customer Support"
So...... to get anything done and any potential changes made an initial thread should be started and as much backing from people who have read the thread and understand what this is about should respond to help get this fixed.
Added link to Features and Ideas post
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