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Lilla My
Gothenburg Shipping and trading
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Posted - 2011.06.09 19:43:00 -
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Has there been a increase in price for characters these days or is it these days an increase to cover the PLEX payment option.
It used to be that you would pay max 1.4b for a basic hulk pilot now i see several going for 2 - 2.5
It used to be that you would pay extra for focused characters now it seems that this phenomena is rule rather then the exception for all characters focused or not.
Any Ideas ? Founder of the website www.eve-online.nu |
Lilla My
Gothenburg Shipping and trading
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Posted - 2011.06.09 20:55:00 -
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Am i really the only one that take notice on this growing problem ? Founder of the website www.eve-online.nu |
Zagam
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Posted - 2011.06.09 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Lilla My Am i really the only one that take notice on this growing problem ?
No, supply and demand.
Supply goes up, demand goes down, price goes down. Supply goes down, demand goes up, price goes up. ---------.oOo.---------- Chaos, Madness, and Destruction. My work here is done. |
Chun Tzu
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.09 20:59:00 -
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Edited by: Chun Tzu on 09/06/2011 20:59:01
Originally by: Zagam
Originally by: Lilla My Am i really the only one that take notice on this growing problem ?
No, supply and demand.
Supply goes up, demand goes down, price goes down. Supply goes down, demand goes up, price goes up.
thats not quite how it works, but yes it is supply and demand.
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Quazal Atreides
Gallente Amarr Institute of Science Eternus Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.09 20:59:00 -
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or its more a case of toons have been so low of recent last 2yrs that they are slowly going back up in price to their old valuation of 400mill per mill sp
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Zea Mais
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Posted - 2011.06.09 21:01:00 -
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agree, char trading is going outa control any posts with terms like "tengu" "focused pvp" "pure amarr" are like selling crazy....
2 weeks ago I could find a 20m SP toon for 5B, now it seems to be a joke.
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Zagam
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Posted - 2011.06.09 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Chun Tzu Edited by: Chun Tzu on 09/06/2011 20:59:01
Originally by: Zagam
Originally by: Lilla My Am i really the only one that take notice on this growing problem ?
No, supply and demand.
Supply goes up, demand goes down, price goes down. Supply goes down, demand goes up, price goes up.
thats not quite how it works, but yes it is supply and demand.
I was simplyfying it, yes. I didn't think anyone (except economics majors) would want a treatise on all the variables involved with supply and demand pricing. I basically just put the concept in a "perfect world" that doesn't involve money trees. ---------.oOo.---------- Chaos, Madness, and Destruction. My work here is done. |
Zagam
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Posted - 2011.06.09 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Zea Mais agree, char trading is going outa control any posts with terms like "tengu" "focused pvp" "pure amarr" are like selling crazy....
2 weeks ago I could find a 20m SP toon for 5B, now it seems to be a joke.
I have a feeling the market will be swinging the other way soon enough... When all of these newly-minted tengu/pvp/amarr pilots realize that some skill is involved in successfully PvPing (as opposed to being blessed with absurd amounts of money)... they will try to sell those same chars, with a slightly tarnished KB, and make their money back. ---------.oOo.---------- Chaos, Madness, and Destruction. My work here is done. |
Tarendra
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Posted - 2011.06.09 22:02:00 -
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The one thing i have found is that a lot of people use that online pricing site which Imho gives woefully undervalue prices and they treat that as the golden yardstick. What happened to using the pricing services of Durantis and Eleni? People that have been playing that aspect of the game for ages and know the value of skillsets rather than just pure numbers.
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Yassavi00
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Posted - 2011.06.09 23:13:00 -
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what is wrong with you people a toon is worth as much as some one is willing to pay. And let me guess lilla my your ****ed because you want someone to sell you a 10milsp hulk toon for 1.5 and he told you were to go (or something like that). If i had a 10milsp hulk toon i would rather trash the toon than let someone get if for 1.5mil.
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Lilla My
Gothenburg Shipping and trading
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Posted - 2011.06.10 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: Yassavi00 what is wrong with you people a toon is worth as much as some one is willing to pay. And let me guess lilla my your ****ed because you want someone to sell you a 10milsp hulk toon for 1.5 and he told you were to go (or something like that). If i had a 10milsp hulk toon i would rather trash the toon than let someone get if for 1.5mil.
You couldnt be more wrong im quite a famous t2 BPO holder so cash is not the problem but i am interested in why the pricing of characters have developed as they have in the past months.
My theory is that a hulk pilot with basic skills used to be 1.4 - 1.8b but now people dont want to pay $ for the transfer which would have given them that total amount of 1.4b so to cover theyr losses they increase the price to 2.3 - 2.7b.
What is intresting in reality would be a chart of how many that these days pay for the initial transfer in $$$ that would totally explain this phenomena if the majority was paying with ISK. Founder of the website www.eve-online.nu |
Water'of'Life
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Posted - 2011.06.10 05:00:00 -
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trolls.. the lot of you..
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2011.06.10 12:55:00 -
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it certainly is 100% unrelated to plex prices...
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Seyde
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Posted - 2011.06.10 13:01:00 -
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This needs to be moved to Market Discussions.
If you think about it, what is the point of selling a character for less than 1bil? When you take into account the transfer cost and the cost of skill time - 2bil is fair for a hulk pilot.
Fair prices for characters is good for everyone, what are we without the characters!
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Jessica Renee
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Posted - 2011.06.10 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Lilla My
Originally by: Yassavi00 what is wrong with you people a toon is worth as much as some one is willing to pay. And let me guess lilla my your ****ed because you want someone to sell you a 10milsp hulk toon for 1.5 and he told you were to go (or something like that). If i had a 10milsp hulk toon i would rather trash the toon than let someone get if for 1.5mil.
You couldnt be more wrong im quite a famous t2 BPO holder so cash is not the problem but i am interested in why the pricing of characters have developed as they have in the past months.
My theory is that a hulk pilot with basic skills used to be 1.4 - 1.8b but now people dont want to pay $ for the transfer which would have given them that total amount of 1.4b so to cover theyr losses they increase the price to 2.3 - 2.7b.
What is intresting in reality would be a chart of how many that these days pay for the initial transfer in $$$ that would totally explain this phenomena if the majority was paying with ISK.
My dear,
1) you are famous? i missed smth...sry 2) if you would be as rich as you tell, this Q would be the last to ask...who cares money...1b is 2h of plexing in eve, isk are equal to **** :) 3) Who the fk cares about some [email protected] are all! way to low compared to the good old days...2 years ago
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Stareine999
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Posted - 2011.06.10 13:11:00 -
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Yeh i 2nd that and lillamy if you dont like it go train your own hulk pilot instead of monning about it no one is forcing you to pay the prices.
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2011.06.10 13:34:00 -
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Its more that character prices have been seriously lowfor the last 1-2 years and its only now getting back to normal.
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Without Hope
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Posted - 2011.06.10 13:42:00 -
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and as a last point, i saw a hulk pilot sold for 900mill this morning... that is a joke.... after plex cost of transfer the guy got 100mill... he would of been better off letting it go offline..
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Bubbles Udan
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Lilla My Has there been a increase in price for characters these days or is it these days an increase to cover the PLEX payment option.
It used to be that you would pay max 1.4b for a basic hulk pilot now i see several going for 2 - 2.5
It used to be that you would pay extra for focused characters now it seems that this phenomena is rule rather then the exception for all characters focused or not.
Any Ideas ?
Let us use your example of a basic hulk pilot from the perspective of the seller.
To create a character that can sit in a hulk you will need 2 plex for game time and 1 plex for the transfer. With plex at 400 million, it would cost you 1.2 billion just to train this basic hulk pilot and sell it.
We're obviously talking about a really crappy hulk here, but you can see how a small spike in plex prices makes a huge difference on low sp character sales.
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Lilla My
Gothenburg Shipping and trading
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Bubbles Udan
Originally by: Lilla My Has there been a increase in price for characters these days or is it these days an increase to cover the PLEX payment option.
It used to be that you would pay max 1.4b for a basic hulk pilot now i see several going for 2 - 2.5
It used to be that you would pay extra for focused characters now it seems that this phenomena is rule rather then the exception for all characters focused or not.
Any Ideas ?
Let us use your example of a basic hulk pilot from the perspective of the seller.
To create a character that can sit in a hulk you will need 2 plex for game time and 1 plex for the transfer. With plex at 400 million, it would cost you 1.2 billion just to train this basic hulk pilot and sell it.
We're obviously talking about a really crappy hulk here, but you can see how a small spike in plex prices makes a huge difference on low sp character sales.
I agree and thank you for a concrete and creative response. I do agree that character prices has been low the past 2 years question is considering that all MMORPG's past it's 3 year anniversary goes over to the past glory era, Eve is the exception if it were any other mmorpg the market would be flooded with characters but there is another factor in eve aswell and that is the age and skillpoint aspect of the character as it grows older.
Thanks for all the responses it has indeed been intresting to speak my views and i did forsee the trolling
//Lilla My Founder of the website www.eve-online.nu |
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Jesse JaneX
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Posted - 2011.06.10 15:24:00 -
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Move this cry thread to market and discussions ffs.
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P
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Posted - 2011.06.10 17:04:00 -
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Character Bazaar is only for the buying and selling of characters, moved thread to Market Discussion.
Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us |
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2011.06.10 17:07:00 -
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Move it back ffs.
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Tanaka Kharn
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Posted - 2011.06.10 17:11:00 -
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LMFAO
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Sovie Panda
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Posted - 2011.06.10 17:26:00 -
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If one more person uses the word toon I swear to god I'll slit my wrists.
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SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2011.06.10 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sovie Panda If one more person uses the word toon I swear to god I'll slit my wrists.
Your toon has a nice rake!
Amarr for Life |
Tanaka Kharn
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Posted - 2011.06.10 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS
Originally by: Sovie Panda If one more person uses the word toon I swear to god I'll slit my wrists.
Your toon has a nice rake!
Too cartoony for me
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.06.10 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS
Originally by: Sovie Panda If one more person uses the word toon I swear to god I'll slit my wrists.
Your toon has a nice rake!
Someone called? Go make a new disaster, that's what I'm counting on. You're someone else's problem, now I only want you gone...
http://www.eveonline.com/iNgameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1516147mcvs![/u |
Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Saiph Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.06.10 18:55:00 -
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Doh, you guys beat me toon it.
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Sovie Panda
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Posted - 2011.06.10 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane Doh, you guys beat me toon it.
Thanks for ruining it wierdo. *applies bandages* I don't even want to anymore. Thanks for that seriously.
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