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TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Elysian Empire
374
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Posted - 2012.09.13 12:41:00 -
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Counter-petition: No.
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Maddy Joringer
The Xziles
21
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Posted - 2012.09.13 12:49:00 -
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ISD TYPE40 wrote:Rats wrote:I think a memorial to all pilots that have passed on would be good rather than an individual one, Some like VR (RIP) are known to the community, but many others will slip away quietly not having been as well known. Something to remember them all would be good. A little monument to mark all those that have passed on in a quite corner of EvE.
Tal
My personal opinion, as an EVE player, is that this is a great idea. Perhaps have one in each of the four main trade hubs, that way everyone can see one.
i support this as well...... |
Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
87
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Posted - 2012.09.13 13:03:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:FDIC Agent wrote:Why is it that goons go to extreme measures to mock the death of other players and even getting on stage demanding action be taken to cause someone to kill themselves... but when one of their own dies, it is serious business??
How about you guys treat all death with respect and don't harrass those grieving. Interesting... Someone earlier thought it was bad to judge individuals on their actions or behavior, but it's OK to judge entire groups of people based on the actions of other members of the group? I think not. Actually, it is *this* type of thinking that leads to the violence that started the protests, riots and deaths. It's this type of thinking that starts most wars. Ascribing the actions of one to the entire group he belongs to, and transferring your hatred for one onto the others of the group is at the root of the problem.
Saddly , that would demand inteligent beings, something quite scarce these days. ~ 10.058 ~
Free The Mittani |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2760
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Posted - 2012.09.13 13:05:00 -
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Maddy Joringer wrote:ISD TYPE40 wrote:Rats wrote:I think a memorial to all pilots that have passed on would be good rather than an individual one, Some like VR (RIP) are known to the community, but many others will slip away quietly not having been as well known. Something to remember them all would be good. A little monument to mark all those that have passed on in a quite corner of EvE.
Tal
My personal opinion, as an EVE player, is that this is a great idea. Perhaps have one in each of the four main trade hubs, that way everyone can see one. i support this as well......
Yep. its the most appropriate way to handle this.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedomInferno Wardecs - Shoot Goons for FREE $300,000 dollars :(-á |
Lord Regent
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
4
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:58:00 -
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+1 I support renaming a system for him.
Sincerely,-á Lord Regent. |
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:35:00 -
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Mangala Solaris wrote:Herping yourDerp wrote:1 monument in jita the names of every eve player who has passed on in the description it never leaves, just gets updated Rather than Jita, how about back in New Eden, with the EVE Gate in the background. Kinda symbolising that these players have "returned" to Earth.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153269
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Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
352
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:00:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Imagine if the game is available still in say, 50 years and Chribba finally dies of old age? What do you mean finally? Although noone would want a 120yr old playing a spaceship game I think...
Confirming Chribba for 70 years old? |
Mindraak
Rise on Chaos
0
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:03:00 -
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+1 for monument
tbh i never heard of him but from what i read i get the impresion that he deserves one. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1733
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:04:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Imagine if the game is available still in say, 50 years and Chribba finally dies of old age? What do you mean finally? Although noone would want a 120yr old playing a spaceship game I think...
I presume all that mining is so relaxing you'll live a long time, like Spock. |
Matarella
The Last Call. Black Core Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:12:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:Rashmika Clavain wrote:
Who are we [collectively] to decide who is more valuable than another? :shrug:
We are human beings, and we make value judgements all day long. I didn't know either of you personally, but I'd vote VR was more valuable than you.
I dont know you or VR at all. but I vote my best friend who saved my life one day to be more valuable.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1727
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:14:00 -
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Matarella wrote:War Kitten wrote:Rashmika Clavain wrote:
Who are we [collectively] to decide who is more valuable than another? :shrug:
We are human beings, and we make value judgements all day long. I didn't know either of you personally, but I'd vote VR was more valuable than you. I dont know you or VR at all. but I vote my best friend who saved my life one day to be more valuable.
This crap is getting out of hand. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Matarella
The Last Call. Black Core Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:19:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Matarella wrote:War Kitten wrote:Rashmika Clavain wrote:
Who are we [collectively] to decide who is more valuable than another? :shrug:
We are human beings, and we make value judgements all day long. I didn't know either of you personally, but I'd vote VR was more valuable than you. I dont know you or VR at all. but I vote my best friend who saved my life one day to be more valuable. This crap is getting out of hand.
exacly my point. |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
754
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:31:00 -
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Signed. +1 "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
754
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:32:00 -
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Vile Rat realized diplomacy both RL and with internet spaceships is srs bsns.
VR-RIP must come to be. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Gaius Fabius
Destructive Technologies
0
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Posted - 2012.09.13 18:53:00 -
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yes i want a system named after myself as well |
RougeOperator
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
768
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:39:00 -
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CCP could let the players vote on it.
Or make a special status for peoples toons that are confirmed Deceased IRL that everyone can access.
This is something dooable without having to worry about values of people etc.
Human life has so much value no matter how small or large others may think of a person that there is no way to attribute a value to it. Human life just has so much value that it cannot be quantified. Some monsters have tried too in history but there is a reason people remember them as monsters.
I say the circumstances dictate that a remembrance of the man is in order personally. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
9
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:59:00 -
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Signed.
+1. |
FDIC Agent
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
6
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Posted - 2012.09.13 22:49:00 -
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I will only support a system name change and/or statue if it is done for every single eve player who has died so far and future players. We all help shape this game. |
Verone
Veto Corp
379
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Posted - 2012.09.13 23:36:00 -
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To be fair, I think that this thread, which I was just linked back to in game during discussion over Sean pretty much closes the argument on monuments within Eve for people who've passed away in real life.
I'm personally of the opinion that if any monument is to be created within Eve for anyone, it should be player funded, player created and player maintained, such is the way of the sandbox.
Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM |
Norrin Ellis
Venture Racing
85
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Posted - 2012.09.13 23:38:00 -
[170] - Quote
Who is Vile Rat?
What makes him objectively more significant than any other EVE player to have died? CEO, Venture Racing Senior Banker, EVE Online Hold'Em |
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Tellura
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.13 23:48:00 -
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Verone wrote:To be fair, I think that this thread, which I was just linked back to in game during discussion over Sean pretty much closes the argument on monuments within Eve for people who've passed away in real life. I'm personally of the opinion that if any monument is to be created within Eve for anyone, it should be player funded, player created and player maintained, such is the way of the sandbox.
+1
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
377
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Posted - 2012.09.14 00:39:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:FDIC Agent wrote:Why is it that goons go to extreme measures to mock the death of other players and even getting on stage demanding action be taken to cause someone to kill themselves... but when one of their own dies, it is serious business??
How about you guys treat all death with respect and don't harrass those grieving. Interesting... Someone earlier thought it was bad to judge individuals on their actions or behavior, but it's OK to judge entire groups of people based on the actions of other members of the group? I think not. Actually, it is *this* type of thinking that leads to the violence that started the protests, riots and deaths. It's this type of thinking that starts most wars. Ascribing the actions of one to the entire group he belongs to, and transferring your hatred for one onto the others of the group is at the root of the problem. Two wrongs don't make a right. But the reputation that goons have built is not out of accident. They (as in goons) thrive on the grief of others. So much so they've gone out of their way to ridicule victims of suicide attacks and death of other people through their silly "jihad" campaigns, mockeries, or other distasteful foolishness. And it may be the case that not all goons participate in these "events". But if they're going to wear the "goon" tag they need to understand the perception it brings on them as a group. the same way, say a *** member, needs to understand the perception that is brought on him by merely being a member of the group.
With that said, what happend to Sean is very tragic and unfortunate and I can only hope that his family and loved ones are able to cope and carry on quickly, especially his children. This community has come together to show its support of a fallen and fellow player, which on its own is quite amazing. A monument doesn't sound like a bad idea, although renaming a system, in my opinion, may be setting up an unfair precedent.
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FDIC Agent
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
7
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Posted - 2012.09.14 00:57:00 -
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MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:War Kitten wrote:FDIC Agent wrote:Why is it that goons go to extreme measures to mock the death of other players and even getting on stage demanding action be taken to cause someone to kill themselves... but when one of their own dies, it is serious business??
How about you guys treat all death with respect and don't harrass those grieving. Interesting... Someone earlier thought it was bad to judge individuals on their actions or behavior, but it's OK to judge entire groups of people based on the actions of other members of the group? I think not. Actually, it is *this* type of thinking that leads to the violence that started the protests, riots and deaths. It's this type of thinking that starts most wars. Ascribing the actions of one to the entire group he belongs to, and transferring your hatred for one onto the others of the group is at the root of the problem. Two wrongs don't make a right. But the reputation that goons have built is not out of accident. They (as in goons) thrive on the grief of others. So much so they've gone out of their way to ridicule victims of suicide attacks and death of other people through their silly "jihad" campaigns, mockeries, or other distasteful foolishness. And it may be the case that not all goons participate in these "events". But if they're going to wear the "goon" tag they need to understand the perception it brings on them as a group. the same way, say a *** member, needs to understand the perception that is brought on him by merely being a member of the group. With that said, what happend to Sean is very tragic and unfortunate and I can only hope that his family and loved ones are able to cope and carry on quickly, especially his children. This community has come together to show its support of a fallen and fellow player, which on its own is quite amazing. A monument doesn't sound like a bad idea, although renaming a system, in my opinion, may be setting up an unfair precedent. Well said. I suggest everyone to read up on the full history of a group and the kind of activities they do before joining them. |
Marcus Caspius
63
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Posted - 2012.09.14 03:57:00 -
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Rashmika Clavain wrote:Maybe! Besides, I think the best monument to a fallen EVE player is an Officer fit Titan wreck on a low sec gate
While I like almost all the idees ppl have suggested I think it has to be accessible to all (most). I think it should be in High Sec. An intact Titan that is invulnerable on a High Sec gate could be real nice. Maybe the same race as which VR was from?
I did also like the idea that someone suggest earlier; that all players that pass away while having an active account should be listed on the memorial description.
Its one of the things that sets us apart from animals is that we remember and pay respects to our dead. Grammatical error and spelling mistakes are included for your entertainment!
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DAV3Y JON3S
Hephaestus LLC Get Off My Lawn
0
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Posted - 2012.09.14 06:59:00 -
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VR-RAT has a good ring to it. Prolly should made original content.
+1 |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2227
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Posted - 2012.09.14 07:05:00 -
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I think renaming a nullsec system VR-RIP or some memorial version thereof is a great idea, how about VFK-IV? "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Yuri Intaki
Nasranite Watch
64
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Posted - 2012.09.14 07:23:00 -
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No support from here, would set a precedent. Gallente militia already tried this one but fortunately it was hushed up rapidly. |
Signal11th
Against ALL Anomalies
707
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Posted - 2012.09.14 07:27:00 -
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FDIC Agent wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:War Kitten wrote:FDIC Agent wrote:Why is it that goons go to extreme measures to mock the death of other players and even getting on stage demanding action be taken to cause someone to kill themselves... but when one of their own dies, it is serious business??
How about you guys treat all death with respect and don't harrass those grieving. Interesting... Someone earlier thought it was bad to judge individuals on their actions or behavior, but it's OK to judge entire groups of people based on the actions of other members of the group? I think not. Actually, it is *this* type of thinking that leads to the violence that started the protests, riots and deaths. It's this type of thinking that starts most wars. Ascribing the actions of one to the entire group he belongs to, and transferring your hatred for one onto the others of the group is at the root of the problem. Two wrongs don't make a right. But the reputation that goons have built is not out of accident. They (as in goons) thrive on the grief of others. So much so they've gone out of their way to ridicule victims of suicide attacks and death of other people through their silly "jihad" campaigns, mockeries, or other distasteful foolishness. And it may be the case that not all goons participate in these "events". But if they're going to wear the "goon" tag they need to understand the perception it brings on them as a group. the same way, say a *** member, needs to understand the perception that is brought on him by merely being a member of the group. With that said, what happend to Sean is very tragic and unfortunate and I can only hope that his family and loved ones are able to cope and carry on quickly, especially his children. This community has come together to show its support of a fallen and fellow player, which on its own is quite amazing. A monument doesn't sound like a bad idea, although renaming a system, in my opinion, may be setting up an unfair precedent. Well said. I suggest everyone to read up on the full history of a group and the kind of activities they do before joining them.
^^ God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
FDIC Agent
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
7
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Posted - 2012.09.14 07:33:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM7Rj-As1-s
Anyone care to explain this? |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2237
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Posted - 2012.09.14 07:38:00 -
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Goons will be Goons? "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
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