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Jaak 242
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:16:00 -
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It doesn't seem so to me.
Was I mistaken in thinking that MMORPG developers were interested in keeping the existing players happy?
I guess that a more basic and interesting question is: Does anyone know what percentage of existing players are actually pushing for this monstrosity?
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:18:00 -
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Why would they be interested in a minority?
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Kara Audanie
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:19:00 -
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Keep on crying, who know, it might have an impact.
When would you EVER learn? CCP wouldn't be publishing a game that ISN'T OPTIMIZED! Here this, how about you shut up and try it out before QQ all over about it before it even begin. It is like you sort of people who are what holding CCP back for many years...
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Jaak 242
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:20:00 -
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Thst's the second question. Is it the minority or the majority?
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Isha Steel
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:20:00 -
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*yadda yadda* vocal minority and all that.
And i'm a pusher :)
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jaak 242 It doesn't seem so to me.
Was I mistaken in thinking that MMORPG developers were interested in keeping the existing players happy?
I guess that a more basic and interesting question is: Does anyone know what percentage of existing players are actually pushing for this monstrosity?
So your opinion is the only one counting? A lot of people including myself have expressed that they appreciate Incarna.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Jaak 242
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kara Audanie Keep on crying, who know, it might have an impact.
When would you EVER learn? CCP wouldn't be publishing a game that ISN'T OPTIMIZED! Here this, how about you shut up and try it out before QQ all over about it before it even begin. It is like you sort of people who are what holding CCP back for many years...
What in the world are you talking about, and in what language? I asked two questions. Do you need a definition of the word 'question'?
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Jashmyne
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:23:00 -
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Well first rule of any game based forum, only a very small part of the total player base visits the forums. So it's very hard to tell how many are happy and how many are not.
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Kara Audanie
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
Originally by: Jaak 242 It doesn't seem so to me.
Was I mistaken in thinking that MMORPG developers were interested in keeping the existing players happy?
I guess that a more basic and interesting question is: Does anyone know what percentage of existing players are actually pushing for this monstrosity?
So your opinion is the only one counting? A lot of people including myself have expressed that they appreciate Incarna.
+1
Can't wait to see my Rifter in captain quarter!
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Keltas Mortermain
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:24:00 -
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progress tis a greaqt thing embrace it wis will be epic when its done......
however....
i do belive it should be optional i will be using it but i can see peoples opinions against it i dont agree with them yet its there choice..
when you dock up you get an option CQ or docking bay "last being current enviroment. casue i can imagine CQ slowing down ore drop offs and so on but hell whats 1 min extra
VIVA LA CQ!!!!!
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Kara Audanie
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jaak 242
Originally by: Kara Audanie Keep on crying, who know, it might have an impact.
When would you EVER learn? CCP wouldn't be publishing a game that ISN'T OPTIMIZED! Here this, how about you shut up and try it out before QQ all over about it before it even begin. It is like you sort of people who are what holding CCP back for many years...
What in the world are you talking about, and in what language? I asked two questions. Do you need a definition of the word 'question'?
Your questions are rather more of one sided opinion therefore you are complaining instead of asking two sides of opinion ALSO you have created this thread for this one sided opinion as well.
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Narisa Bithon
Caldari The Motley Crew Reborn
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: Narisa Bithon on 21/06/2011 11:27:44 personally for me ill play about on cq for about an hour.... then get bored and disable it for better game performance. i want internet spaceships not Sims Online
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Lidia Prince
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:26:00 -
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Quote: Was I mistaken in thinking that MMORPG developers were interested in keeping the existing players happy?
Never played any big MMO game, did you?
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Allant Doran
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Jaak 242 It doesn't seem so to me.
Was I mistaken in thinking that MMORPG developers were interested in keeping the existing players happy?
I guess that a more basic and interesting question is: Does anyone know what percentage of existing players are actually pushing for this monstrosity?
You've got it a little mixed up.
1) - They ARE interested in keeping the existing players happy but the majority of the existing players aren't complaining about Incarna, which leads me to point 2;
2) - The people who aren't vocally anti-Incarna aren't necessarily pushing for it either. Want to know why? We just don't care THAT much either way.
Take me for example. I think Incarna will be a pretty cool addition. I'll walk around a station for 5 minutes, I'll go ''heh, there's Allant!'' then i'll undock and pew pew in Spaceships like I always have done. It doesn't change anything about the game we all know and love, it just adds something extra for those people who want it. (For RPers this will be an incredible expansion pack)
Want something different to Incarna? Be patient, your time will come.
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Jaak 242
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Jaak 242 on 21/06/2011 11:32:51 i did have a feeling that a lot of players avoid these forums because of the things that go one here. It would seem that an issue like this would bring them out for a few minutes, though.
I'm still interested in a method of finding out, even roughly, the percentage of existing players who support Incarna.
Does CCP have any information on this?
Edited to answer the two posts above:
No. I've never played any other on line game.
Also, my real problem with Incarna is the timing. I'm one of the 1%ers who would like to see Incursion fixed before Incarna comes out. They could implement the fixes in Incarna before it comes out rather than after.
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Rui Morin
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:30:00 -
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Oh good, yet another thread for the same old *****ing. Can't you just post in one of the eleventy-hundred other threads about this?
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Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:30:00 -
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Lose 1% followers, gain another 8% from adding features that a wider audience are interested in.
If crybabies leave the game and people who actually are interested in it join, I'm certain CCP won't be shedding any tears about it.
HABIT
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Acac Sunflyier
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jaak 242 It doesn't seem so to me.
Was I mistaken in thinking that MMORPG developers were interested in keeping the existing players happy?
I guess that a more basic and interesting question is: Does anyone know what percentage of existing players are actually pushing for this monstrosity?
NOPE! Cause since the start of this game people have asked to get out of their ships. Really, it was only recently that the whiners have come out and *****ed. So like the total whining makes up less than 0.0001% of their concern.
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Jaak 242
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Rui Morin Oh good, yet another thread for the same old *****ing. Can't you just post in one of the eleventy-hundred other threads about this?
Another poster child for the combination of genetic drift and moral decay heard from. Thanks for your input. I assure you that I will give it the consideration it deserves.
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Jashmyne
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: Jashmyne on 21/06/2011 11:37:21 When it comes to MMO, you can never please everyone. Eve Online is a game filled with various sub-groups already. PVPers, PVEers, Crafters, Traders and at the moment a small group of RPers. Everyone wants CCP to focus on them at the expense of the other groups. So make one group happy makes another group unhappy. Incarna has been in development for quite awhile and is really the first expansion aimed at the current RP group which will no doubt attract other RPers as well once the full expansion is in and functional. So yeah Incarna might annoy some of the other groups but remember that the RPers have waited for this expansion for years. The effect is minimal for the rest of you who have no interest in RP besides the fact that you will be in the CQ when you dock and you will get used to it.
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Rui Morin
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jaak 242
Originally by: Rui Morin Oh good, yet another thread for the same old *****ing. Can't you just post in one of the eleventy-hundred other threads about this?
Another poster child for the combination of genetic drift and moral decay heard from. Thanks for your input. I assure you that I will give it the consideration it deserves.
Your reply says nothing and you are still not explaining why yet another "Incarna sucks" thread needs to be created?
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:39:00 -
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Honestly I belive that this patch doesn't really make either party totally happy...
Now pilots are able to unload their cargo without leaving their ship or step down from their pods, clean the goo in refreshing shower and walk to their->Minmatar's captain quarters. They are also able to sleep in bed, pick new mission and head back to the pod, board the ship and undock.
...but yes - this is only the 1st part of the expansion.
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 21/06/2011 11:42:29
Originally by: Jaak 242 Does the Number Of Anti-Incarna Players Have Any Effect On CCP? It doesn't seem so to me. Was I mistaken in thinking that MMORPG developers were interested in keeping the existing players happy? I guess that a more basic and interesting question is: Does anyone know what percentage of existing players are actually pushing for this monstrosity?
No one knows how many people want Incarna, how many indifferent players there are and how many actually want it. As long as CCP doesn't allow polls on their fora or makes them themselves there's no way of knowing.
That said, if I look at the forums I think there's not a majority that's anti. Most players seem to be disappointed that the CQ doesn't offer a lot and is a bit high on resources and such, but not against the mere idea of being a pilot and walking around. I think that most people actually like to be a person and not just a a ship.
Even though many players may think the hours spent on making Incarna would be better used on the spaceship part it still doesn't mean they're against it.
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:41:00 -
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1. Forum whiners are literally a vocal minority.
2. Even if it was massively unpopular, its beta-testing a fantasy themed MMO. You know how much money a fantasy MM0 (could theoretically) make?
3. EVE players haven't left yet. Tryannis proved a content-less expansion sells. The T20 incident, Moongate, New Forum Hacking, Micro-transactions proved that masssive community uproars meant nothing to the game's subscriber base. ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Digital Messiah
Oregami Ultd
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:45:00 -
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Incarna has the potential to unlock many new features into this game. I can already see a huge majority of the Sim's community becoming interested in a dress up live your life in space aspect. Either way this goes, I'm still going to be playing unless they start selling non-vanity or drop the ball completely.
Quote: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 21/06/2011 11:46:30
Originally by: Jashmyne Well first rule of any game based forum, only a very small part of the total player base visits the forums. So it's very hard to tell how many are happy and how many are not.
Also know this.As there are only 2 or 3 opinions that one can have on this subject it would be very narrow minded to think it has anything to do with any "minority". Sure only a small percent of players post on the forums but by the percentage posting for good or bad you can pretty much see where the opinion of the entire player base is.
Edit: Just because they don't post it doesn't mean they are for it.
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CCP Guard
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:57:00 -
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In relation to the thread subject; What is the number of "anti Incarna players"? We don't know because it's hard to measure obviously. For many reasons. For example; how many just don't like changes of this magnitude to a world they are pretty content with already? And how many actually oppose 3D character environments for EVE? How many feel Incarna is fine but that we should do other stuff first? How many don't opppose the direction, but simply disagree with some of the design angles? There are many different opinions out there. Not just "for" and "against".
One thing is for sure, we will get a change to learn more about what you guys think after everyone has tried Incarna out and we've worked through any initial wrinkles (as if those ever happen...).
We realize we're making various significant changes to a world that you are a part of and we have complete and utter respect for the fact that Incarna is not without skeptics. But we also have great faith in Incarna and feel it's a necessary step on our journey. And we're also pretty confident that the general consensus will line up, or we wouldn't be doing this.
At this point...all any of us can do is hang tight and see how it goes :). I know you'll keep us posted on what you think, and we'll do our best to react to your feedback.
*Group hug!*
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Guard
*Group hug!*
IT'S A TRAP!
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:03:00 -
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Just to not be misunderstood I think incarna is a great idea and looks very good. I just think there are alot of important things that really need to be fixed like gallente ships and reducing capital ships..game breaking things that are being over looked or pushed off.
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Captain Mastiff
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:09:00 -
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I for one am thoroughly looking forward to Incarna, I know Captains Quarters is a big leap in the right direction towards Incarna and may leave much to be desired however I anticipate it will benefit the game whether or not you use the feature. The potential is endless and this expansion is some what of a break through for Eve.
Thank you CCP, I enjoy the direction you have taken for Incarna. However I am left bitterly disappointed with the recent 0.0 nerfs which will no doubt shadow this expansion in the future as one of those expansions that destroyed the sandbox and made it more of a communist iron curtain around some precious sand that the cat once crapped in.
...but yeh I'm looking forward to it.
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