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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:50:00 -
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CCP Punkturis' newest dev blog tells us all about the new agent finder tool! Read it here.
Fallout Associate Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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Moroccan Tourist
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Posted - 2011.06.21 11:55:00 -
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can't believe my eyes after so many years an agent finder?
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:06:00 -
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Should be awesome for all mission pilots!
Secure 3rd party service | in-game 'Holy Veldspar' Now /w voice |
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Shepard Book
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Shepard Book on 21/06/2011 12:19:37 I think this will help mission runners and new people quite a bit. I have some questions. Is there a way to search for locator agents for each faction using this tool? That is the only tab I see missing. Looking at the image of agents, it does not seem as though you can click on the individual agent to see if you are able to use it. I see the link for the system but that is all. Is that correct? I basically use evegate now days. I am away from the game so any answers will help my curiosity. Thanks
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Iyrkle Byrkle'yrkle
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:23:00 -
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Is there eventually going to be a general increase in combat agents to compensate for the agent nerf a few weeks back?
Rather silly to be in the lowest security part of the Amarr Empire and not have a level 4 Amarr combat agent for 10+ jumps.
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J Constantine
United Space Power Corps Dead On Arrival Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:25:00 -
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Is this going in today aswell?
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: J Constantine Is this going in today aswell?
Yes.
Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online |
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:28:00 -
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Take the pictures out. You just hit randomize and generated them on-masse anyhow.
Wasted space that could be used for much more useful information. ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba Should be awesome for all mission pilots!
eve-agents.com still has its merit though.
-- Mr. Science & Trade Institute - EVE Lorebook - Mysteries of W-space |
Salpun
Gallente Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:29:00 -
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NPE systems and NPE agents are not listed in the search function making it hard for older players to run thru the NPE epic arc to see the great fleet of ships and Academy at the end of it.
The System search could use a type in search block.
Great new Feature I know its going to be the first feature I use on my alt. Faction standings here I come.
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LordSwift
Caldari The Alpha Company The Alpha Company Protectorates
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:34:00 -
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Can we filter for Locator agents. or do we still have to use Eve agents for that. ------
Mal: If anyone gets nosy, just, you know... shoot 'em. Zod: Shoot 'em? Mal: Politely. |
I'thari
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: I''thari on 21/06/2011 12:41:00 While it's good and all...
Originally by: devblog As you may have read in a recent dev blog we simplified the agents system in Incursion 1.5 which made it possible for us to make an agent finder.
according to your devblog, thirdparty developers who made "agent finding" sites did the impossible job.
edit: quote =/ |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Shepard Book Edited by: Shepard Book on 21/06/2011 12:19:37 Looking at the image of agents, it does not seem as though you can click on the individual agent to see if you are able to use it. I see the link for the system but that is all. Is that correct?
If the agent is not available to you, the portrait and the text is faded out
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:44:00 -
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Couldn't you already use the map to find agents....
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Salpun
The System search could use a type in search block.
You can start typing in the name of the system when you have systems box selected.
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:46:00 -
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Another nice addition to Eve. ~Gnosis~ |
Kordran Ke'Azir
Caldari Dragon's Breath Security Force
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:48:00 -
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OMG, thank you for doing this - it's been something I've wanted for ages and goes several steps beyond the online eve-agents.com which is useful but nowhere near the usability of this.
Can't wait to see it in game and test it out
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: Raid''En on 21/06/2011 12:51:13
Originally by: I'thari
Originally by: devblog As you may have read in a recent dev blog we simplified the agents system in Incursion 1.5 which made it possible for us to make an agent finder.
according to your devblog, thirdparty developers who made "agent finding" sites did the impossible job.
i think no one will miss this sentence when reading the blog... they really need to rephrase it... cause i suppose they wanted to say something else, like maybe "it was impossible before to make this...with the same efficiency / with a simple UI like this"
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: LordSwift Can we filter for Locator agents. or do we still have to use Eve agents for that.
Try http://eve-locator.justaddhippopotamus.com/
I used to use eve-agents but it was a pain to figure out which agent was closer, especially if I was near a region border.
But we'll see if the new agent finder has all the bells and whistles. --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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Mena Arzi
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:52:00 -
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Is this available through the normal UI? When I tried it on the test server I had to waste 20-30 seconds doing a slow walk to the couch every time I wanted to use this feature :(
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J Constantine
United Space Power Corps Dead On Arrival Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Originally by: J Constantine Is this going in today aswell?
Yes.
<3
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.21 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Mena Arzi Is this available through the normal UI? When I tried it on the test server I had to waste 20-30 seconds doing a slow walk to the couch every time I wanted to use this feature :(
You can access it from the agents tab in the station services and in the agents tab of the p&p window.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:02:00 -
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Looks great.
But what about epic agents? |
Isha Steel
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Salpun NPE systems and NPE agents are not listed in the search function making it hard for older players to run thru the NPE epic arc to see the great fleet of ships and Academy at the end of it.
As far as im aware the old NPE agents have been replaced by Aura, if you hit F12 you should be able to still run the tutorials as long as you haven't in the past. Not sure you'll get the quick and dirty fraction standings now though.
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Soden Rah
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:09:00 -
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I like this feature, Score again for team BFF... Any chance that this could be modified to show more than 6 at a time? I tend to resize these kind of windows and stack them together, and their is a lot of wasted space when I do that.
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:16:00 -
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Here is the link to the agent finder on EVElopedia.
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Erinyes Nazgul
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:16:00 -
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I've hated running missions primarily because of the absolute pain in the ass of running all over the universe trying to find the right agent. Great to have this in game!
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Mena Arzi
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Punkturis
Originally by: Mena Arzi Is this available through the normal UI? When I tried it on the test server I had to waste 20-30 seconds doing a slow walk to the couch every time I wanted to use this feature :(
You can access it from the agents tab in the station services and in the agents tab of the p&p window.
Cool, thanks :)
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Cebraio
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: El'Niaga Couldn't you already use the map to find agents....
Yes, you could. But many people find the complexity of the map options a bit confusing. I think it's a nice addition, especially for new players.
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Shepard Book
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Punkturis
Originally by: Shepard Book Edited by: Shepard Book on 21/06/2011 12:19:37 Looking at the image of agents, it does not seem as though you can click on the individual agent to see if you are able to use it. I see the link for the system but that is all. Is that correct?
If the agent is not available to you, the portrait and the text is faded out
Thank you! Do you know if locator agents can be searched for with the tool yet?
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Salpun
Gallente Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:25:00 -
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Locator agents are not listed as a type
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Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kelduum Revaan on 21/06/2011 13:34:49 Forums mangling the URL, so no link, sorry.
EVE University also has a version written by Turhan Bey, one of our Managers - pretty similar.
http://util.eveuniversity.org/Missions/AgentRangefinder/
It's not as pretty, but its been round a long time, and works out of game :)
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Shepard Book
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Salpun Locator agents are not listed as a type
Appreciated. I guess that will go on the wish list. It been over a year or so since I have run missions seriously myself. I always liked being able to use locator agents when need be. I still think this tool is a great thing to have for new players and mission runners.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:33:00 -
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Edited by: Louis deGuerre on 21/06/2011 13:34:54 First ! Oh wait...
EDIT : No locator agent option ? Please go to Chribba's site and do your homework properly. ----- Malevolence. is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
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Efraya
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:33:00 -
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Looks like an excellent tool, nice to see the evlopedia being added too BEFORE the content is on TQ. Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist |
Kellath Eladrel
Minmatar Future Corps
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:34:00 -
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Please add functionality for locator agents and research agents. It will be nice to have this ingame but as some have said, it has been easy to do this out of game for a long time with eve-agents.com or Turhan's utility. _____ Five card stud, nothing wild. And the sky's the limit... |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Shepard Book
Originally by: CCP Punkturis
Originally by: Shepard Book Edited by: Shepard Book on 21/06/2011 12:19:37 Looking at the image of agents, it does not seem as though you can click on the individual agent to see if you are able to use it. I see the link for the system but that is all. Is that correct?
If the agent is not available to you, the portrait and the text is faded out
Thank you! Do you know if locator agents can be searched for with the tool yet?
They are in there, but you can't filter for them specially.
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Mons Montis
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Mons Montis on 21/06/2011 13:37:39
Originally by: CCP Punkturis
Originally by: Shepard Book
Originally by: CCP Punkturis
Originally by: Shepard Book Edited by: Shepard Book on 21/06/2011 12:19:37 Looking at the image of agents, it does not seem as though you can click on the individual agent to see if you are able to use it. I see the link for the system but that is all. Is that correct?
If the agent is not available to you, the portrait and the text is faded out
Thank you! Do you know if locator agents can be searched for with the tool yet?
They are in there, but you can't filter for them specially.
This is a great tool none the less
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Salpun
Gallente Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:37:00 -
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Any plans to add them
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Ryunosuke Kusanagi
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:42:00 -
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after reading this, and the convo with Fallout, I understand how it works and it can work.
but.... I am more concerned with Aatvi Nupiroda's choice of hairstyle. I mean, he looks like he should be playing a synth rather than handing out missions to kill some frigates ;)
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Salpun Any plans to add them
We'll see, lets get this out first and then maybe iterate if needed
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Mikal Morataya
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:45:00 -
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Look good, thanks. Although one more vote for a locator agent filter here.
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Altaree
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:48:00 -
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Please change the security status box to two boxes that let you specify a range. Or just change it to numerical. I would like to find all amarr agents at level 4 that live in .6 or .5 systems. --Altaree
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Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ryunosuke Kusanagi I am more concerned with Aatvi Nupiroda's choice of hairstyle. I mean, he looks like he should be playing a synth rather than handing out missions to kill some frigates ;)
The frigates stole her synth! |
Makko Gray
Nexus Aerospace Corporation
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:56:00 -
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+1 for being able to filter on locator agents.
Looking very nice though.
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I'm not Trollin
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Posted - 2011.06.21 13:58:00 -
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As noted, eveagents.com still has more features and is easier to use.
We should be able to sort by datacore research availability also.
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Moira.
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:02:00 -
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Please tell me there will be hotlinks involved that allow map transitions?
(Blog link in Sig) |
Altan Mi
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:03:00 -
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Most excellent beautiful Punkturis
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Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy Spreadsheets Online
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:05:00 -
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Locator agent filter please, ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe.
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Shepard Book
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:11:00 -
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Edited by: Shepard Book on 21/06/2011 14:13:00 I did not mean to start a snowball effect. I know this is a new tool being rolled out and will prolly see some additions as we move along. Thanks for all yalls hard work.
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Makko Gray
Nexus Aerospace Corporation
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: I'm not Trollin As noted, eveagents.com still has more features and is easier to use.
We should be able to sort by datacore research availability also.
I wouldn't be surprised if they deliberately kept it simpler than some of those already out there deliberately to not make them redundant. And also to not overload new players who use this.
Would be useful to be able to find by datacore and I hope you'll at least be able to filter to R&D and show info on the agents you get back. But would be a little sad if eve-agents.com went away.
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: El'Niaga Couldn't you already use the map to find agents....
-Not if you have high faction standings and pretty much every agent is available to you, then the map is just a giant blob of green.-
Looks nice & look forward to trying it out as someone who likes to move on to a new corp once my corp standing gets to the high 9's.
To be a complete tool it needs to be able to do the things that eve-agents can do like filter by exact system sec status, find storyline agents (very important when choosing a regular agent to know where the storylines are going to come from especially if they ever get their mission pools restricted by division as no combat missioner will want to be stuck with only courier/mining storylines), find locators, and find research agents by field.
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Libria Kyzal
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Libria Kyzal on 21/06/2011 14:21:22 And here I thought anyone with a half a brain has been using eve-agent. It's nice enough, and I'm grateful, just think they have better things to do with their time.
+1 to research and locator agents.
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Ryunosuke Kusanagi
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Shepard Book Edited by: Shepard Book on 21/06/2011 14:13:00 I did not mean to start a snowball effect. I know this is a new tool being rolled out and will prolly see some additions as we move along. Thanks for all yalls hard work.
this is how ideas go.
also, since umm the last patch or two ago, eve agents has kinda been out of date with the agent quality and such, but still good.
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Riapsed Alvilla
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:23:00 -
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Looks awesome. Please add locator agent.
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Illwill Bill
For a fistful of Veldspar
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:28:00 -
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Did you just nerf Chribba?
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Revenge is a dish best served with auto-cannons.
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Joseph Padarez
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:35:00 -
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+1 for Locator Agent please
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.06.21 14:59:00 -
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh wow.
Won't be long.
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Jelek Coro
Erase Rewind
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Illwill Bill Did you just nerf Chribba?
Nope, Eve-Agents is still better.
You can sort more, including by research type. A long way to go before it is as useful...
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:12:00 -
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gonna quote myself from the GD thread:
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate It'd be nice to be able to filter by region, constellation, number of jumps from current location, or by sovholder. The solar system search by itself is a bit...obtuse.
There should be a special filter for R&D agents allowing you to filter them by field.
Also i noticed that the 'security' only filters to highsec, lowsec, and nullsec; it'd be nice if there was a more advanced filter allowing you to set the exact system security.
The agent level buttons at the top should be a bit bigger and easier to click.
there should also be a filter for locator agents as well _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like. |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate gonna quote myself from the GD thread:
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate It'd be nice to be able to filter by region, constellation, number of jumps from current location, or by sovholder. The solar system search by itself is a bit...obtuse.
There should be a special filter for R&D agents allowing you to filter them by field.
Also i noticed that the 'security' only filters to highsec, lowsec, and nullsec; it'd be nice if there was a more advanced filter allowing you to set the exact system security.
The agent level buttons at the top should be a bit bigger and easier to click.
there should also be a filter for locator agents as well
thank you for this input
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:27:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmatiko on 21/06/2011 15:35:52 Or you can make character locator on any station like dedicated service separating this function from agents. Who is using lvl 1-2-3 locator agents anyway? You can simply grind corp standing to 4 (or less) and search your enemies without any limits and region restrictions. Also "locator" buttons in agent dialogues are annoying.
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Sarina Berghil
Minmatar New Zion Judge Advocate Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:33:00 -
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Sounds simple and awesome, judging by the blog.
I can imagine all sorts of advanced filter functionality being useful, but this kind of simplicity in data presentation is needed in EvE in many places.
More of these kind of features please.
I'm a big fan of complex models and dynamics, but that doesn't mean the interface has to be complicated.
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ACESsiggy
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:41:00 -
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Very impressed with this addition.
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:43:00 -
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I want to thank you all for your positive feedback. Making you happy makes me very happy
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Usagi Tsukino
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:43:00 -
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Hi CCP Punkturis!
Nice work guys. Looks very nice and long time over due. Personally, I don't run missions on this account anymore, but allow me to also chime in on encouraging you guys to add locator agents to the filter for searching.
I know I, and many people like me who have moved on from carebearing but have access to dozens of agents, would use this solely for finding nearby locator agents. ___
Chaotic Dreams |
Crunchmeister
Gallente Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sarina Berghil I'm a big fan of complex models and dynamics, but that doesn't mean the interface has to be complicated.
^^^ This!
But good job on the agent finder. I don't really run missions anymore, but when I was, finding an agent was a royal pain in the keister requiring using external web sites. I always wondered why this wasn't in the game in the first place when all the data was obviously there.
I must say the inability to filter to find locator agents is a glaring oversight, as that's a function that's used pretty regularly. And it would be easy to add that functionality as well. Just need to add a "Locator Agent" check box to add that parameter to the query, and you're good to go. Please make this happen in the future. We'll love you long time!
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.06.21 15:59:00 -
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I guess I forgot to mention that it looks nifty ?
+1 new tools ----- Malevolence. is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
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Traiori
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:06:00 -
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I like
Needs to be able to filter out Locater agents.
Needs to be able to filter out based on more precise security levels. Who runs missions in 1.0 space seriously...? I want to filter out anything that isn't 0.6 or 0.5, but that doesn't seem to be on offer.
Failing that, lets have it so we can sort by security (this might be possible, in which case excellent!)
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SerratedX
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:14:00 -
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So this only took you how many years after Chribbas eve-agents.com?
Maybe you should pay Chribba a 99$ token fee. I'm a wizard and that looks ****ed up. |
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LuNaRiAn SeRpEnT
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Patient 2428190 Take the pictures out. You just hit randomize and generated them on-masse anyhow.
Wasted space that could be used for much more useful information.
What information? Who really cares man? What is it with you uber nerds and your addiction to complaining about everything?
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Ivanna Nuke
Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:25:00 -
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Can it find agents with preference to Bacon?
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StarRanger
Gallente Royal Star Ranger Family
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Moroccan Tourist can't believe my eyes after so many years an agent finder?
lol, my first thoughts exactly cheers, ccp!
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Liva Daril
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:48:00 -
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Team BFF, you are the thorn in my Incarna(& increasingly CCP) hate.
Wubs ya longtime.
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Eclorc
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Posted - 2011.06.21 16:53:00 -
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Lookin' good and useful so far from what the blog says. Sweet.
Suggestion: A long time ago in a thread far away, I posted a request for filtering ability to be added to the in-game map, when selecting "My available agents", level/corp etc. I'm guessing the new Agent Finder doesn't link into the graphical display in the map (yet?), could it be made to do so? To explain futher, when using the new Agent Finder and IF the map is set to display "My available agents", could filtering be applied to the map's display to match the selections made in the Agent Finder? I have no idea how intricate or difficult this would be?
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tatsudoshi I
Gallente The Venus Project - Zeitgeist Movement
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:12:00 -
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I think this is much to easy. This smells like wow. Really after the agent system remake, it doesn't get much easier. Open a faction, see list of agents, set destination, go. Yeah that is really tough... Stop nerfing eve. I love the suicide learning curve. Besides I don't eve full of stupid people.. (what am I doing here then? hm..) ..................................................
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Marcus Vorenius
Caldari Instant Annihilation Everto Rex Regis
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:13:00 -
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I don't see an option to filter on Region? Also hope we can filter on Research skill for R&D agents.
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Jurann
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:18:00 -
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Awesome! Dozens of hours spent to decode the really awful data export you guys give us, in addition to many late nights of writing and testing code to make a client-side Agent Finder, I get it almost ready to Beta, and you release this... WTG CCP for not giving us something SO SIMPLY USEFUL for 7 years and then when someone decides to leverage your new commercial licensing system you steal their thunder. Really failsauce.
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Neeke Oh'Lamarick
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:21:00 -
[79]
nice to see you're so proud of yourself that you've been finally able to implement one of the most obvious things which should have been in game since the beginning; and btw which are available on third party sites for ages now. really congrats ccp |
Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:35:00 -
[80]
Its cool looking but for me, its sort of telling of a bigger issue beyond the quality of your specific work (and what you've done does look nice)
...now i see another reason for the dumbing down of the agent levels.
There was something really special about poring over maps on one screen and chriba's agent locator on the other... looking at different stations in systems to optomize agent quality, proximity to story line agents of same types etc.
I really miss the textures that agent quality gave the Eve universe.
I don't run tons of missions but the interest in them came from trading and from datacores. The complexity of agent quality made finding the right stations in a region, or in a system an interesting task. I know not everyone trades that way, but it was game feature . Datacore is another intricate sort of thing that takes weeks of work to get into place for most of us and hence gave us something to play for.... the carrot of semi-passive income (you still need to go pick them up and sell them which entails a certain time cost) made me interested in a part of a game that i'd never take on without that carrot.
It's definitely lost a level of interest though looking at my 5 agents and seeing them all producing at exactly the same rate. Now its just a matter of getting the minimum requirments for a level and then nothing to oogle and oggle over.. covetting a bit better to entice you to grind a bit more. (and lets face it,... a lot of gamers find a grind satisfying... not all do but having a place in the game for it and a moderate reward for sitting atop it adds a facet to the game)
I can't imagine every wanting to research agents in game, just as I don't use the ingame browser unless to take very quick look at a pron link (any better links need to be cut and paste so i can read them at leisure while still looking at my overview and chat windows etc... but I guess some people still play with one monitor and don't tab out to use third party programs.
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Natalia Kovac
Minmatar Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.06.21 17:45:00 -
[81]
This is great, thanks dudes. Little positive changes like this really make the game better.
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Machon Danichus
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:00:00 -
[82]
I'm sure it's been said already but why not add a region filter as well? Or 'within x jumps' filter? Sometimes you're looking for an agent within a particular favourite area.
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:07:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Machon Danichus I'm sure it's been said already but why not add a region filter as well? Or 'within x jumps' filter? Sometimes you're looking for an agent within a particular favourite area.
You don't have to select a system. So if you just leave it on any, then you'll get the agents closest to you first in the results.
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Cole Ontor
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:10:00 -
[84]
what a nice way to create more challenge in this game wow at this is all 1 can say
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:27:00 -
[85]
Speaking of locator agents, anyone else notice that they are all set to maximum time and cost now?
Thanks to the quality changes, they are all acting like -20 quality in terms of search time and search cost. (4 minutes for out of region and 250k isk instead of 3 minutes and change and just over 200k for any level 4 agent where my effective quality used to be very high) Which is cutting into my profits for running locators for other people. --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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Marcus Vorenius
Caldari Instant Annihilation Everto Rex Regis
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:32:00 -
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@Diomedes Calypso - I could not agree more
Originally by: CCP Punkturis
Originally by: Machon Danichus I'm sure it's been said already but why not add a region filter as well? Or 'within x jumps' filter? Sometimes you're looking for an agent within a particular favourite area.
You don't have to select a system. So if you just leave it on any, then you'll get the agents closest to you first in the results.
So now I have the choice between flying to the region or using 3rd party app? It's probably not an issue when just looking for a mission agent, but when grinding for R&D agent status it's important to find a good place where there are lower level R&D agents as well as mission agents. Doing the R&D missions counts towards Faction mission count (sixteen), so you'll be working in different regions. For example, you have standing for lvl. 3 R&D agents so you find 4-5 R&D agents at lvl. 3 in a place close to some decent mission agents. This requires you to look at all regions to find the optimal area.
Having said that, then it does look very nice - good job
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Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.06.21 18:34:00 -
[87]
Excellent!
Now if I only ran missions any longer ...
Great for the game.
***** Signature may appear without warning! ***** Please do not feed the trolls, it builds dependency.
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VaL Iscariot
Caldari Natural Selection.
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:19:00 -
[88]
Okay, so let me get this straight. You just made it 'easier' for people to do this? How and why? What was wrong with oh, I dunno, DOING IT YOURSELF method. All it took was a Show Info > Agents. Really, how hard was that? Whats that you say? You had to highlight the text and, oh my goodness, right click it?! How barbaric. There should be something that holds your hand and takes you down to the pretty little land where missions are always five part faction missions... Why don't you just put a in game macro in to run the missions for them? While you're at it, take any level of danger out and never seed a level 4 agent into low sec. While your at it, cave at every cearbear cry and request on these forums. Heaven forbid anyone be forced in this day and age to turn over that gray matter that stops their skulls from caving in.
note* Missions in low sec are impossible now right? OMGTHEYCANSCANME! Pro tip to avoid being scanned in the new system: Kill them enough, and they won't try to scan for you anymore you whiny punk ass mother &(#!@
tl;dr i hate you for anything that makes eve easier
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Kyra Felann
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:24:00 -
[89]
Quote: HavenÆt you all experienced the problem of being in the mood for running missions...
Nope. They're tied with mining as the most boring activity in EVE.
Seriously, though, this is a nice improvement. Now I just wish missions were...y'know...fun. -----WARNING SIGNATURE BELOW-----
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Jennifer Nardieu
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Posted - 2011.06.21 19:37:00 -
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Could do with an "Offered Mission:...." piece of text on the agent details.
Much like any other game out there that has the "mission" mechanic. That way you can fly around doing the best missions, make "offered mission" a public thing so that it will change as people race about space to compete with others to get to the agent first to accept it.
There you go, missioning becomes less of a grind and its a drive to move people away from population hubs (the quieter the area, the less likely your nice AE L4 mission will get accepted by someone else) and further out in space (possibly 0.0 or low sec).
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Donna Domino
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:21:00 -
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It looks ok and should help new people who like to have the game do all their thinking for them find agents faster. People who make big isk running missions already know the agent is the last thing you look for, anyway, not the first. It's the LP store, stupid! |
Internet White Knight
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:06:00 -
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Edited by: Internet White Knight on 21/06/2011 21:11:10
Originally by: Blog I think the animation is pretty cool, we were able to do that easily because of CarbonUI!
Oh for f's sake, animation? Nice to look at for three seconds, and after that it'll only ever slow a search down. There's an option to turn it off, right?
Oh and yeah, no locator tickbox, so it just lost 75% of its utility. Eve-agents.com is still better. |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.21 21:59:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Internet White Knight Edited by: Internet White Knight on 21/06/2011 21:11:10
Originally by: Blog I think the animation is pretty cool, we were able to do that easily because of CarbonUI!
Oh for f's sake, animation? Nice to look at for three seconds, and after that it'll only ever slow a search down. There's an option to turn it off, right?
I was waiting for someone to comment on that part of my blog
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:00:00 -
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Seeing that the Agent finder looks like a carbon copy of Chribba's excellent web-page, are you going to credit him in some way?
Plagiarism is bad and even more so when a 'big' takes from a 'small'!!
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Beker Kozar
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:01:00 -
[95]
It would be great if you could specify another system besides the one your in for the jump distance calculation. Many times I finish at a level 2 agent, and I want to find the closest lvl 3 to my corp HQ, not to where I am currently. But that would be icing, thanks for the new interface.
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Internet White Knight
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:05:00 -
[96]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis
Originally by: Internet White Knight Edited by: Internet White Knight on 21/06/2011 21:11:10
Originally by: Blog I think the animation is pretty cool, we were able to do that easily because of CarbonUI!
Oh for f's sake, animation? Nice to look at for three seconds, and after that it'll only ever slow a search down. There's an option to turn it off, right?
I was waiting for someone to comment on that part of my blog
That sounds remarkably like "I like it too much to let you, the user, not see it."
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Tuggboat
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.21 22:31:00 -
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Thank you, this and the lag reduction thread have saved me from cancelling. I have just the toon thats a bit lost in new space too. :)
Keep up this kind of work, Make your bosses let you sit on the heads of the balancing crew that keeps beating up the players. Demand a raise. Just take over Sov of the employees of the month parking spot. Gate camp the executive bathroom. Padlock the water cooler. Claim dominion on CCP. Let them feel what an Incursion into their plush seats is like. Sig removed because of broken link. Zymurgist |
Usul Atreides
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:07:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Usul Atreides on 21/06/2011 23:17:59
Originally by: CCP Punkturis "Our goal was to make a simple tool that allows players to quickly find an agent that fits their skill level, faction and preferred activity."
Hey, that's really neat! Mission successful I'd say!
Originally by: Internet White Knight Edited by: Internet White Knight on 21/06/2011 21:11:10
Originally by: Blog I think the animation is pretty cool, we were able to do that easily because of CarbonUI!
Oh for f's sake, animation? Nice to look at for three seconds, and after that it'll only ever slow a search down. There's an option to turn it off, right?
Oh and yeah, no locator tickbox, so it just lost 75% of its utility. Eve-agents.com is still better.
The combo box animation is fine, perhaps a little unnecessary but it doesn't seem to get in the way. I agree with others that it would be nice to have more than 6 agents per page, possibly an option to hide the agent portrait and show a boring table-like list view would make it less pretty but more functional. Depressing how everything in UI ends up as a table eventually...
The key here being the fact that it's in game and will always be up to date unlike chribba's eve-agents. I'm willing to bet plenty of eve players don't know a lot of these third party sites/tools exist, especially if they are new to eve (most new players will have to find an agent at some point).
I am unsure how this can lose "75%" of its utility by not having a locator agent filter. That seems a little unlikely.
As for the e-anger, I suggest a warm beverage and a cuddle with your favourite teddy.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Makko Gray
Originally by: I'm not Trollin As noted, eveagents.com still has more features and is easier to use.
We should be able to sort by datacore research availability also.
I wouldn't be surprised if they deliberately kept it simpler than some of those already out there deliberately to not make them redundant. And also to not overload new players who use this.
No, they just suck and dont know what players want.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:28:00 -
[100]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis
Originally by: Machon Danichus I'm sure it's been said already but why not add a region filter as well? Or 'within x jumps' filter? Sometimes you're looking for an agent within a particular favourite area.
You don't have to select a system. So if you just leave it on any, then you'll get the agents closest to you first in the results.
No, You CANT select a system, and are FORCED to only sort on distance. Seriously what is wrong with developers these days. Limitations are NOT features. Look at eve-agents, compare, realize how much your tool is lacking and fix it, or pay Chribba $99 to implement it for you.
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Emiko P'eng
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:32:00 -
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Very Nice
But as a new player who only got to see about 2 weeks of the original Agent system.
I am disappointed that this is the reason the original Agent system got scrapped.
The fact I needed to do research outside the game was novel, a game that needed thought instead of key pounding!
I was promised by colleague at work that EVE was the Modern BBC Micro 'Elite' (Yes I am old enough to have queued up to buy it on the first day) But with far more complexity and lots of real players who are all 'bar-stewards' who will kill you fairly or unfairly at the first opportunity they get!
All I can say is I wish I had found EVE in 2003.
It now looks as I missed the heydays and this is yet another game where frippery & pandering to the 'I want it NOW, but I DON'T want to work or think about it' WoW generation is winning!
That said I have still bought a subscription in the hope it doesn't slide to much further down the IQ scale!
Oh! there is one thing that does hold true from my colleagues sales pitch. You definitely cannot let your guard down while playing
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Imuran
Zentor Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:44:00 -
[102]
It would benifit greatly from a region filter tbh
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Zastrow
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 00:52:00 -
[103]
this is 100% the best thing to happen to EVE ever Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Sister Megarea
Sisters of Agony
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Posted - 2011.06.22 01:25:00 -
[104]
Oh sweet baby Jesus, finally!
I shall officially not complain about the next gripe I have in thanks for this awesomeness
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Sister Megarea
Sisters of Agony
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:26:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Sister Megarea on 22/06/2011 02:27:31 So, now that the turrets are all re-designed, how about some love for us missile ho's ?
(Word filter on wh o re ? Seriously ?)
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Marcus Vorenius
Caldari Instant Annihilation Everto Rex Regis
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:43:00 -
[106]
Nice design, intuitive and easy to use. "Select System" should be a search box and not a drop-down. Reiterating that locator agent option, region filter and R&D research fields really needs to be included sooner rather than later.
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Indasun
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:28:00 -
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it's almost as good as eve-agents.com! if you were able to configure the starting station for the distance calculations, i would probably start using this over eve-agents.
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Zleon Leigh
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:26:00 -
[108]
Of all the many, many things I'm VERY unhappy about with Incarna, the agent finder is actually very, very good. Sincere congratulations. I'll turn on CQ just so I can use it. 'Course I'll turn CQ immediately back off after I set destination.
Now, throw away the rest of Incarna and integrate it into the neocom, or wherever, and you'll have made my day (which definitely TOTALLY sucked up until this find).
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Pedronicus
Caldari Blue Ice Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:35:00 -
[109]
I would say out of this patch, the best thing for me so far out is the Agent Finder. I would really like to congratulate you on implementing this in game, though outside tools were available for this from long time, but it will really help out to have it in Game, and there is no problem of it getting out of sync :) That being said, would it be possible in future to check out LP store of all corporations in game to be accessible from a Single location, right now you have to dock in respective station to check out the LP store. Although i think the reason behind is you browse LP store and get stuff from it on the station you are docked. But if i just want to find out the Stuff offered by Let say Angel Cartel, while sitting in Jita, that should help a lot.
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Thorn Galen
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.22 09:27:00 -
[110]
KUDOS on the new Agent System, totally excellent!!
Et cognitus, ergo et sum. Therefore I am, I think. (Drunken Yoda version) Am I thinking? (Very drunk Yoda version) |
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Junky Juke
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:12:00 -
[111]
Nice one! Finally the agent finder moved from the outside of eve into the game!
Now you should remove the old division categories (internal securiti, mining, command etc) and replace them with the new (two) ones in the filter tools.
I hope you will implement new usefull tools like that in the future so we will need no more to use external software/internet.
More immersion incoming!!!!
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Aquana Abyss
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Posted - 2011.06.22 16:38:00 -
[112]
Good work.
"filtered by the faction that has the best standings towards you"
This can be changed?
I for example have great minmatar and good gallente standings but am in gallente space and its listing agents rather far away all the time.
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.22 16:50:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Aquana Abyss Good work.
"filtered by the faction that has the best standings towards you"
This can be changed?
I for example have great minmatar and good gallente standings but am in gallente space and its listing agents rather far away all the time.
This is just what happens when you first open the window. You can change it in the filter options.
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Aquana Abyss
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Posted - 2011.06.22 20:36:00 -
[114]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis
Originally by: Aquana Abyss Good work.
"filtered by the faction that has the best standings towards you"
This can be changed?
I for example have great minmatar and good gallente standings but am in gallente space and its listing agents rather far away all the time.
This is just what happens when you first open the window. You can change it in the filter options.
Alrighty then! Will look at it next time I log in but reading troll threads by monocle wearers is much more fun right now.
Thanks.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:19:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Isha Steel
Originally by: Salpun NPE systems and NPE agents are not listed in the search function making it hard for older players to run thru the NPE epic arc to see the great fleet of ships and Academy at the end of it.
As far as im aware the old NPE agents have been replaced by Aura, if you hit F12 you should be able to still run the tutorials as long as you haven't in the past. Not sure you'll get the quick and dirty fraction standings now though.
Was this about the the old Tutorial_Agents who gave the mission 'The Endless Battle'? I was informed they've been removed from the game? That's 15 agents for each of the 4 main Factions. Total = 60 agents.
They were a good source for gaining positive Faction standing along with repairing negative Faction standing, even if it was just a small amount. They played a major part when first working the Faction Standing Repair Plan.
Any chance of giving those agents a new title (Political Liaison ?) and paying them more isk to come back out of retirement? If not, are there any replacement agents available that give the same mission?
Besides the removal of those agents and adding more lag while in station, Incarna and Captains Quarters is cool. I like the direction this game is heading. One step closer to a virtual Universe simulation.
DMC
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SwissChris1
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:44:00 -
[116]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis HavenÆt you all experienced the problem of being in the mood for running missions...
Nope.
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Civ Zomas
Gallente Jazz Associates
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Posted - 2011.06.23 10:08:00 -
[117]
Tip of the hat for the best feature in Incarna. (Well, actually the only good one.)
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Alain Ichinumi
Caldari Narita SAF Home
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:39:00 -
[118]
This is really good! If only every window in EVE would be up to this standard. Would it be possible to add COSMOS agents there also? Those are impossible to find from EVE client.
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Geksz
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:26:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Zleon Leigh Of all the many, many things I'm VERY unhappy about with Incarna, the agent finder is actually very, very good. Sincere congratulations. I'll turn on CQ just so I can use it. 'Course I'll turn CQ immediately back off after I set destination.
Now, throw away the rest of Incarna and integrate it into the neocom, or wherever, and you'll have made my day (which definitely TOTALLY sucked up until this find).
U can find a button named Agent Finder at the top of the Agents tab when docked, on the station services window.
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Nikuno
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:14:00 -
[120]
So the only reason for destroying the agent variety was to allow the agent finder to function for the release of CG? When CCP said they were altering the spawning of plexes to create more variety in regions of space I took this as the official stance - variety is good for Eve. To then find you destroying this massively varied, fully functional aspect of the game was disappointing initially. To then also find out the incredibly weak reasoning behind it was simply breath-taking. CCP, you really need to make your minds up about what Eve is. Pushing players in a direction that many have little interest in and which removes existing and enjoyed features is a way to commercial suicide.
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:03:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Nikuno So the only reason for destroying the agent variety was to allow the agent finder to function for the release of CG?
I don't know how you got that impression but it's the other way round. We were able to make a simple agent finder because we simplified the agents system.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.24 03:36:00 -
[122]
Hi CCP Punkturis,
any chance of getting an answer to this?
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2011.06.24 05:30:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Nikuno So the only reason for destroying the agent variety was to allow the agent finder to function for the release of CG? When CCP said they were altering the spawning of plexes to create more variety in regions of space I took this as the official stance - variety is good for Eve. To then find you destroying this massively varied, fully functional aspect of the game was disappointing initially. To then also find out the incredibly weak reasoning behind it was simply breath-taking. CCP, you really need to make your minds up about what Eve is. Pushing players in a direction that many have little interest in and which removes existing and enjoyed features is a way to commercial suicide.
pretty well put...
... and maybe thats what the consumer wants.. clean simple decisions with less thinking and less accumulated and learned knowledge influencing your sucess in the game..
I think there is a larger reason for it.. dumb peole earn far less isk per hour than those that spend the time to work the systems and it was difficult for them to balance the economy when some earn so much more in the same amount of time
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Nikuno
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Posted - 2011.06.24 07:21:00 -
[124]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis
Originally by: Nikuno So the only reason for destroying the agent variety was to allow the agent finder to function for the release of CG?
I don't know how you got that impression but it's the other way round. We were able to make a simple agent finder because we simplified the agents system.
This still flies in the face of the stated goal of creating variety between regions of space. Where once we may have fought over who controls which bit of npc space for the best agents, now there is no need. How can this sit well with the exact opposite change to the plex system with the reasoning cited by CCP that it was to increase variety?
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:31:00 -
[125]
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson Hi CCP Punkturis,
any chance of getting an answer to this?
I'm not the correct person to answer this but I'll direct your question to the right people
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Krys Skar
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Posted - 2011.06.24 11:03:00 -
[126]
Very nice! The only thing missing is the ability to limit the search to a region. Right now we only have the choice between the whole universe or one solar system!
Krys
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.24 15:13:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Krys Skar Very nice! The only thing missing is the ability to limit the search to a region. Right now we only have the choice between the whole universe or one solar system!
Krys
I've been taking some of the feedback here and made improvements on the agent finder. One of it being Region filter (no locator agents filtering yet, sorry). Will be deployed soon
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Imuran
Zentor Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.24 15:49:00 -
[128]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis
Originally by: Krys Skar Very nice! The only thing missing is the ability to limit the search to a region. Right now we only have the choice between the whole universe or one solar system!
Krys
I've been taking some of the feedback here and made improvements on the agent finder. One of it being Region filter (no locator agents filtering yet, sorry). Will be deployed soon
Excellent news on the region filtering. Now if you want to make it even more usefull
"Show me all level 3 agents I can use that reserach Mechanical Engineering Datacores" for example
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CCP Dropbear
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:07:00 -
[129]
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson Was this about the the old Tutorial_Agents who gave the mission 'The Endless Battle'? I was informed they've been removed from the game? That's 15 agents for each of the 4 main Factions. Total = 60 agents.
They were a good source for gaining positive Faction standing along with repairing negative Faction standing, even if it was just a small amount. They played a major part when first working the Faction Standing Repair Plan.
Any chance of giving those agents a new title (Political Liaison ?) and paying them more isk to come back out of retirement? If not, are there any replacement agents available that give the same mission?
Greetings from Team NoobLube. So, we removed the standings gains from the initial NPE (formerly known as the Crash Course) to avoid people raising standings too easily. The NPE is now repeatable, you see. It wasn't before, so back then, it was okay to give out one-time mission rewards like standings. In the new one, repetable missions with standings rewards would be exploitable so we had to take them out for the time being.
We're continuously working on the NPE these days, so how things are now won't be how they remain forever. One thing we'd like to do is add the standings gain back in, but we can't do that with a repeatable NPE unless we make the reward a one-time thing some other way. The best candidate is by having tutorials (which currently can only give goodies in the form of items) reward standings. In any case, we're aware of this, and will be looking to improve it.
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CCP Dropbear
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:13:00 -
[130]
Also, just by the way...
With the redesign of the Agent Finder, one category got left out ("Roleplaying"). We'll be looking at possibly reintroducing it again, if the UI allows.
Anyways, just wanted those who care to know that it wasn't abandoned entirely and we're still looking at improvements.
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Consortium Agent
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Posted - 2011.06.24 21:44:00 -
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First I would like to thank you for implementing an agent finder tool into Eve Online. It is a player request that was long stamped *denied* for far too many reasons to get into here and I am delighted to be able to points nooblets to an in-game tool they can use. Kudos to you for the hard work - it is appreciated by many players, including me. (See, I'm not a hard ass all the time...)
Originally by: CCP Punkturis We were able to make a simple agent finder because we simplified the agents system.
I did have to chuckle at the above, given the plethora of players who were able to write highly efficient agent finder tools using the old agent system with little more than script, a database and a little time.
Speaking of those players... those 3rd party developers, like Chribba, that did find a way to make agent locators that to this day far surpass what CCP can bring to the table with python (for time constraint reasons I'm guessing)... did you guys ever, ever even once consider starting your blog with 'Thank you to the many third party developers who have provided this service to our players for so many years. We found great inspiration from <insert developer or website here> and <insert developer or website here> and were able to produce this fine tool only because of your inspiration'.
These 3rd party developers have been running these agent locator tools for years and don't even get a cursory mention at all?
I find that sad, really.
(Ok, so I'm still a hard ass...)
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Xander Hunt
Minmatar Dead Rats Tell No Tales
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Posted - 2011.06.25 05:38:00 -
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CCP Punkturis;
You are doing a f'n FANTASTIC job, with absolutely ZERO sarcasm. You seriously, sincerely, honestly do need a raise. The new agent finder, even its current form, is terrific. However, I do dislike the images, and much would rather see a grid-style view like pretty much every other aspect of the game which deals with raw data. 6/5 stars on this part of the game, AND your services in this thread!
However, being that you have the tag of EVE Dev I just CANNOT FATHOM why, and how, you manage to have at least ONE post every page of this post, while on any other forum post, your dev'n team mates just can't keep up or even respond.
*scratches head*
Maybe CCP should start paying you dev'rs on a per post basis?
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.26 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Xander Hunt
The new agent finder, even its current form, is terrific. However, I do dislike the images, and much would rather see a grid-style view like pretty much every other aspect of the game which deals with raw data. 6/5 stars on this part of the game, AND your services in this thread!
I wanted to make it less spreadsheets-in-space-right-clicky and more "here's what you need to see, just click it"
Also, thank you, I try my best to help
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Consortium Agent
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Posted - 2011.06.26 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Punkturis
Originally by: Xander Hunt
The new agent finder, even its current form, is terrific. However, I do dislike the images, and much would rather see a grid-style view like pretty much every other aspect of the game which deals with raw data. 6/5 stars on this part of the game, AND your services in this thread!
I wanted to make it less spreadsheets-in-space-right-clicky and more "here's what you need to see, just click it"
Also, thank you, I try my best to help
He also tries his best to hide the fact that CCP didn't provide this service for many, many years despite player requests for it... since... circa 2005 iirc?
He also tries his best to ignore the fact that the players *did* provide this service to the community since CCP didn't/wouldn't/couldn't and tries his best to ignore the fact that those people should have been properly thanked when he stomped all over them with his wanna-be replication of their hard work.
You did, after all, steal this idea Punk. What kind of developer are you that you couldn't be arsed to give a kudos to the guys who did your job for you for so many years?
Oh right, this is CCP... what was I thinking. You're a low wage probably not very good developer who grinds through his job with no relevance to anything but his paycheck. I forgot. Sorry. You're excused.
NOT.
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Xander Hunt
Minmatar Dead Rats Tell No Tales
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Posted - 2011.06.27 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Punkturis
I wanted to make it less spreadsheets-in-space-right-clicky and more "here's what you need to see, just click it"
Also, thank you, I try my best to help
Thing is I don't need to see their faces. That's meaningless to me. Sorting by distance is great though.
Two things I'd like to suggest in regards to usability (Since this is what you're aiming for I guess);
1- Increase the clickable area around the numbers representing the levels. Its a bit too small. I know the arrow can be dragged, but my mind works on "I want level 4. I'll click 4). 2- Have the option to show "All Levels" as going down from 4 to 1 to see a valid agent is awkward. 2.a- Allow the sorting by purely distance, and another option to sort by level then distance.
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Nali Kceb
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Posted - 2011.06.27 14:24:00 -
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Usefull new feature :) Good job
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.27 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Xander Hunt
Originally by: CCP Punkturis
I wanted to make it less spreadsheets-in-space-right-clicky and more "here's what you need to see, just click it"
Also, thank you, I try my best to help
Thing is I don't need to see their faces. That's meaningless to me. Sorting by distance is great though.
Two things I'd like to suggest in regards to usability (Since this is what you're aiming for I guess);
1- Increase the clickable area around the numbers representing the levels. Its a bit too small. I know the arrow can be dragged, but my mind works on "I want level 4. I'll click 4). 2- Have the option to show "All Levels" as going down from 4 to 1 to see a valid agent is awkward. 2.a- Allow the sorting by purely distance, and another option to sort by level then distance.
In next update you'll see a better version of the slider
We left out "All levels" because of performance issues. If you have all filters set to "Any" and "All levels", there are just way too many agents to fetch.
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SilentSkills
Gallente Tax Evaders Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.27 14:56:00 -
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One of the few legitimately good features that came with the patch, very useful as is, even in its "raw" form. I'm glad you guys are actively working on improving this feature. Your level of response, transparency and appreciation for costumer feedback should be a model for the rest of the developers. The Monocle Definition The Epic Door Thread http://im |
Marcus Vorenius
Task Force 42
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Posted - 2011.06.28 05:55:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus Vorenius on 28/06/2011 05:57:36 nice to see that sorting on Region is included!
This is the only feature in Incarnage I like - well done edit: haven't tried the new player experience ----------------------------------------------- "The No A$$HOLE Rule" by Robert Sutton, PhD |
Darthmund DaMonsta
Minmatar VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD
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Posted - 2011.06.28 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Punkturis
I've been taking some of the feedback here and made improvements on the agent finder. One of it being Region filter (no locator agents filtering yet, sorry). Will be deployed soon
I would also like to see the locator agents more easily, but obviously doesnt come in todays patch... When is soon?
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.06.28 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Darthmund DaMonsta
Originally by: CCP Punkturis
I've been taking some of the feedback here and made improvements on the agent finder. One of it being Region filter (no locator agents filtering yet, sorry). Will be deployed soon
I would also like to see the locator agents more easily, but obviously doesnt come in todays patch... When is soon?
The "deployed soon" was regarding the region filter (and other stuff in today's patch).
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Grazolopia
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Posted - 2011.06.28 12:56:00 -
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Edited by: Grazolopia on 28/06/2011 12:56:56 The hidden-agenda tool is pretty good as well, does a nice range thing as well
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Xander Hunt
Minmatar Dead Rats Tell No Tales
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Posted - 2011.07.11 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Grazolopia Edited by: Grazolopia on 28/06/2011 13:03:15 Edited by: Grazolopia on 28/06/2011 12:56:56 The hidden-agenda tool is pretty good as well, does a nice range thing as well
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'Cept it doesn't exactly work all that well. - Have to keep re-entering data every query - Depending on the search query, MySQL isn't providing a proper result (Warning: mysql_fetch_array(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/hiddena/public_html/eve/agent.php on line 496) - Hard to read - Confusion on the "Agents Within" combo... Within what? No place to actually say "3 hops from HERE"
I have my own agent finder that I wrote, and it works rather well. Few things I do need to work out since the update and I have to re-work the SQL query, but it gets what I need without the fancy stuff.
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