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Hildegaard Russell
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ayieka
Originally by: Ivbeen Cloned Theres really not much to say here, I mean it's hilarious that CCP thinks that people would actually pay this much RL money for some clothes in a game that was never met to have clothes in the first palce.
have you even seen how much money valve has made from TF2 microtransactions?
People have to buy the stuff in the first place for them to make money. I'd buy a plex and break it to outfit a character or two. That's cash CCP would get from me. I won't buy a plex to buy one item.
I want to give CCP money for vanity items. They've made a business decision that means I won't. They could have made money off me, and now they won't. I can't think I'm the only one who CCP'd profit off if the prices were lower but who won't get past the entry barrier of lolridiculous costs.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Soryn Kael The monocle shows up on your portrait right?
If so.. it's the absolute perfect item to rub it in people's faces that you have more isk than they do..
The rich are not rich because they are stupid.
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Vile'er
Ungrateful Vile
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:25:00 -
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i actually logged in today expecting to spend 3~4 plex n buy my 12 toons all an outfit each if not multipul outfits.. the outfits are all more boring and plain than the char creator ones and the cost is what 6?plex for a full suit.. this is silly
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Discrodia
Gallente Symbiosis International Moose Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ayieka
Originally by: Ivbeen Cloned Theres really not much to say here, I mean it's hilarious that CCP thinks that people would actually pay this much RL money for some clothes in a game that was never met to have clothes in the first palce.
have you even seen how much money valve has made from TF2 microtransactions?
Yes, but you forget that TF2 microtransations are ACTUALLY GOOD. And all the items that you can get from that can also be received (if the dice gods smile upon you) through crafting. With EVE this is most definitely not the case.
Originally by: anonymous WE JUST DID SCIENCE!
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Xander Hunt
Minmatar Dead Rats Tell No Tales
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Toawa Yeah, the prices are pretty insane. I do not think, however, that CCP is equally so; I have no doubt that the prices will be going down, by a lot, in short order.
Originally by: Cor'len This is hilarious. CCP has been ****ing away customer goodwill like nothing I've ever seen before this past month. First the hubbub about the $99 "commercial" application dev fee ("commercial" as in "you can't actually charge money for your application", )
I'd love to know where you heard that, since in every mention of it that they've made that I've seen, they have pretty explicitly said that the entire point of the commercial license is so that you *can* charge money for your application. And as someone who actually writes software for a living, I can say that a $99, non-royalty license to write commercial software for a property like EVE is a bargain. They could charge 10 times as much and still have takers for it. (Not as many, of course, but still...)
Did you read the actual official post from CCP about this?
Any kind of transaction, in-game currency, or real world currency, is going to cost $99.
If I have any public web interface that has anything to do with EVE, be it free to use with no in-or-out-of game transactions, I'll have to pay $99.
Unless I'm going to use it FOR ME, and ME ALONE, and not have it accessible via the internet, I will have to pay $99 for the use of the API service.
If you force the payment of the services via ISK or RW money, and you make a profit in either case for the year, GOOD ON YOU. To force me to pay $99 that I coded in my free time for the bonus to my corp and me? GTFO.
CCP is changing, and I'm really not liking it.
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Karsa Egivand
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:27:00 -
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Yeah, the prices on these vanity items make us all giggle.
I am not quite sure what CCP is smoking, but I am having a grand time inhaling the fumes.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:27:00 -
[547]
Originally by: Silver Night All of that is, in a nutshell, what the economics of micro-transactions are. That goes hand-in-hand with the psychological side, which is that people are much more likely to make a $5 impulse buy than a $50 one.
That's what makes this entire thing so baffling. The problem isn't that CCP is being greedy. If they were being greedy (or at least being greedy correctly), the item prices would be much lower. Instead, it just looks like they are being stupid, which makes no sense given how many intelligent people seem to work there, and how many resources they've put into this.
Spot on. The reason Apple has made a killing with the iOS App store is pretty much the same thing: people will buy a bajillion $0.99 apps, but they would never in a lifetime buy two half-bajillion apps or four quarter-bajillion apps.
The cost for those things are so low that people buy stuff just to try them out becauseà hey, it's less than a buck, so what if it turns out to be crap? *Click*done*whocares* → money in the bank. You make the price so low that it's no longer even remotely an factor in the decision process, and as a result, people are pouring money on them ù money they wouldn't have spent if the prices were higher. You see the same in the Mac App store: apps that previously cost $30û50 now cost half or a third that, and the developers are making bank like never before because you've removed (or at least massively rasped down) that decision threshold. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
I Legionnaire
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:30:00 -
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Lol, so I can buy a monocle to put on an avatar I never look at (since I turned this CQ bull**** off) or I could buy a fully fit Machariel. Hmm, decisions... decisions. For honour, and glory. |
Nissui
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:30:00 -
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Wait, this was CCPs way of getting me to wardec a bunch random strangers, right? Cos that's what I'm thinking of doing when I see someone sporting a vanity item and actually buying into this horseshat.
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Blazie
Minmatar Drekkar Research and Development
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:32:00 -
[550]
I've never been against MT, i've spent plenty of money on TF2 to prove that, but I'll never buy anything from the NEX at these prices. When i can buy RL clothes for less money than pixels, I'll pass.
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Ranita Drell
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:33:00 -
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Edited by: Ranita Drell on 22/06/2011 03:36:34
Originally by: Silver Night That's what makes this entire thing so baffling. The problem isn't that CCP is being greedy. If they were being greedy (or at least being greedy correctly), the item prices would be much lower. Instead, it just looks like they are being stupid, which makes no sense given how many intelligent people seem to work there, and how many resources they've put into this.
There may be some method to their madness. If these vanity purchases are seen as luxury, prestige enhancing items, then the higher price is exactly what will make them more desirable. Of course, that's sort of conflicts with marketing these things as being purchasable via "micro transactions."
I believe that EVE's demographic includes a lot of fairly well-paid professionals and the like, many of whom might not think twice about spending $120 on a few vanity items that help them stand out. Likewise, there are probably a bunch of wealthy-in-EVE folks for whom a few billion ISK is no big deal and would like to advertise their wealth with displays of conspicuous consumption.
But that's catering to what I believe is probably a relatively small portion of EVE's player base. You also have a lot of folks who'd probably be willing to spend $5 or 80 million ISK on a virtual accessory who look at the current prices and see that CCP didn't roll out this technology for them, and may see it as an insult. That will (and already has) cost them in good will.
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Missus Malaprop
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:34:00 -
[552]
juuuuuump
jump that shark!
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NiM Cal
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:35:00 -
[553]
Can't wait to see the price for a refurbished cabin, when their promised "Virtual IKEA" goes live.
I'd prob have to trade my RL house in for a cardboard box in order to fund it.
:hugecripes:
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Dark Kisaragi
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:35:00 -
[554]
this is F*ing ridiculous i was looking at purchasing a pile of stuff with a couple of plex's and selling what i didn't want for isk so i could buy other useful stuff. no thank you CCP................great job........
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agram tabris
Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:36:00 -
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u know why there is still nor ccp reply in such an nearly-20-pages threadnaught??
becuse we're right about CCP screwing it up - they know that and simply have no clue how to reply without causing more laughter than allready present...HAHA. epic.
the day ccp proved they're clueless about their own game and ppl playing it. well thats actually not funny.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:37:00 -
[556]
Originally by: Judicator Saturnius Thread needs more sabre rattling and sub cancelation threats.
19 days left on mine, then cya. and no you can't have a fcking thing.
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ |
Baroness Fane
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:37:00 -
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Eve is just trying to make a few bucks off their hard work and IP. I feel bad for all you suckers complaining about prices for items you don't even HAVE to buy. I've got a monocle in each eye and the future has never looked so bright.
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Simetraz
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:37:00 -
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Either the coders added in some zero's by mistake or CCP doesn't under the concept of MICRO transactions.
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Missus Malaprop juuuuuump
jump that shark!
There are not enough sharks in all of the oceans to make a stack high enough for this jump. ______________________________
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Pytria Le'Danness
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:39:00 -
[560]
At the price for the virtual goods here I can go to the next store and buy myself a new shirt and trousers FOR REAL. Not overly good ones, but hey, have you checked how the items in the Not-Exploiting-Our-Customers-At-All store look?
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:40:00 -
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Originally by: Khamelean snip
There are a few other sites getting wind of this business. Already seen this same exact text in one place. You need to get your PR self more on the ball.
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ |
Ivbeen Cloned
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Pytria Le'Danness At the price for the virtual goods here I can go to the next store and buy myself a new shirt and trousers FOR REAL. Not overly good ones, but hey, have you checked how the items in the Not-Exploiting-Our-Customers-At-All store look?
Hey I bought a t-shirt and a pair of shorts for the summer the other day for 10 bucks. CCP are clueless...
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Xailia
Unsteady Corporation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:44:00 -
[563]
Well the NEX items certainly won't impact PLEX prices!
"The sky above the port was the color of a television, tuned to a dead channel."
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Yvan Ratamnim
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:45:00 -
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ok seriously microtransactions are fine but honestly
1. CQ for now is single player so why pay even 100aur for a clothing they wont sell for now i think.
2. WTF 12000 AUR, 3600 AUR are you guys F*cking nuts i know its all optional stuff we can ignore but seriously you guys realize no one will ever buy **** at these prices right?
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Silver Night
Caldari Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:45:00 -
[565]
I hope so. I could use a few plex down around 300m again. --------------
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Henrica Gaufridus
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:46:00 -
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Hey CCP, when are you going to put booty shorts up on NEX so I can justify buying a few PLEX to show off my fabulously round booty?
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Captain Alcatraz
Invicta. Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:46:00 -
[567]
Originally by: Simetraz Either the coders added in some zero's by mistake or CCP doesn't under the concept of MICRO transactions.
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Quistis Noir
The Lotus Edge
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:46:00 -
[568]
I think CCP underestimated the value of a plex to a player. Sure a plex is about 350m-400m isk which many players can buy very easily, and afford to blow. But to much more players, 1 plex equals hours and hours of entertainment in a month, which is good value in real life. Having to exchange that hours of entertainment for a skirt, is not worth it in most peoples eyes.
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:47:00 -
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No plans at all to buy stuff via this market, but what the **** is CCP thinking? That we will lose our ****ing minds and put nearly $60US into a ****ing monocle?
My hobby is Internet Spaceships. Give me tricked out, high-end ships for which I have spent years training. Give me iteration on ship models (not just one model per year). Give me continued storyline development on Sleepers / Jovians / Pirate Faction of the Day and related emerging technological discoveries. For those I would consider buying GTCs and selling for ISK.
But invest the same amount of RL currency in pixel-based clothing that I will see once in a while? This is the most ****ing absurd game design and business model development that I have seen in a long time.
Originally by: Higgs Bison How will EVE be affected if Dust is a flop?
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Crymeea River
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:48:00 -
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So do I buy the monacle or get a hooker? Decisions decisions...
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