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Perkin Warbeck
Amarrian Space Poodles 24eme Legion Etrangere
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Posted - 2012.09.13 00:15:00 -
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For helping the Amarrian Space Poodles to become the Amarr militia's highest ranked corporation for kills last week and the 24eme Legion Etrangere to top the alliance killboard.
We had an absolute blast. And, judging from your lemming-like ability to leap into the jaws of death from any station undock in Hek, so did you!
As I understand it the proposed changes by CCP this winter will make it even more difficult for you guys to reach Tier 5 and enjoy weekends like these on a more regular basis. We share your pain....
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Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
418
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Posted - 2012.09.13 01:34:00 -
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Who are you and why should I care?
No, really. Who? Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
AFKish
URBAN CHA0S WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2012.09.13 03:17:00 -
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Your corp appears to no longer be ranked first.
That is all move along. |
Perkin Warbeck
Amarrian Space Poodles 24eme Legion Etrangere
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Posted - 2012.09.13 03:22:00 -
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Let's see. Late Night Alliance.....
Sixth largest Facton warfare alliance (with 211 members). Fifth on the alliance kill list with thirty less kills than our 6 man corporation and half the kills of our 38 man alliance.
No wonder we haven't met.! |
AFKish
URBAN CHA0S WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2012.09.13 04:13:00 -
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Perkin Warbeck wrote:Let's see. Late Night Alliance.....
Sixth largest Facton Warfare alliance (with 211 members). Fifth on the alliance kill list with thirty less kills than our 6 man corporation and half the kills of our 38 man alliance.
No wonder we haven't met.!
I can't help but point out that in terms of top alliance by points your not even in the top 10?
To me this means one of two things.
- You blob everything :brofist: - You only kill frigates and the like.
Feel free to explain this when you have the time. |
Perkin Warbeck
Amarrian Space Poodles 24eme Legion Etrangere
47
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Posted - 2012.09.13 05:15:00 -
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AFKish wrote:Perkin Warbeck wrote:Let's see. Late Night Alliance.....
Sixth largest Facton Warfare alliance (with 211 members). Fifth on the alliance kill list with thirty less kills than our 6 man corporation and half the kills of our 38 man alliance.
No wonder we haven't met.! I can't help but point out that in terms of top alliance by points your not even in the top 10? To me this means one of two things. - You blob everything :brofist: - You only kill frigates and the like. Feel free to explain this when you have the time.
Okay. In order. Here we go.
Points. You got me there. I didn't know the point of Faction Warfare was to earn points. I thought you had to kill things before they killed you (or in my case, try not to be killed too quickly). Where do I get these points from. Are they for sale in Amarr?
Blobbing. Can this be done with six people? Awesome. Any tips?
Frigates. Scrubbing frigates off my 'to kill' list now. This is bad apparantly. |
Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate
492
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Posted - 2012.09.13 06:32:00 -
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Perkin Warbeck wrote: Points. You got me there. I didn't know the point of Faction Warfare was to earn points. I thought you had to kill things before they killed you (or in my case, try not to be killed too quickly). Where do I get these points from. Are they for sale in Amarr?
Probably referring to Battleclinic points, which are earned for each KM and provide an alternative metric from raw kills and isk destroyed. Players, corporations, and alliances are then ranked based on these points earned. Those who top the rankings end up rather well-known.
From their FAQ:
Battleclinic wrote:BattleClinic uses a proprietary system to award points to kills (and to award negative points for losses). We do not disclose the formula, but we can tell you that skillful combat techniques are rewarded. In other words, you can't climb the ranks very quickly by sitting outside your POS and shooting Velators for a month.
Your ranking is based on your points compared to the points earned or lost by other players at a specific point in time. Due to the volume of killmails we process, we update standings weekly. Note that tens of thousands of other players are involved in combat as well as you; therefore somewhat significant swings in rankings can occur. For example, fleet fights can generate a thousand killmails or more. If several large fights occur within a short time period, they can statistically impact player rankings. In short, your ranking is not directly influence-able, since you're competing with tens of thousands of other players.
BattleClinic only tracks the ranking history of the top ten thousand pilots in EVE-Online. If you don't have a ranking history displayed, you're currently not in the top 10k.
From my experience, killing ships your size or larger is worth more points than killing ships smaller and cheaper than your own. Killing things solo or in small groups is worth more than killing things in large groups. Destroying well-fit PvP ships is worth more than gun-less, unfit, or PvE ships. Etc.
The merits of the battleclinic system have been thoroughly debated elsewhere. But a fair number of PvPers do consider the point system valid enough to take pride in their battleclinic ranking.
Edit Addendum: This would be Perkin Warbeck's ranking, which would explain why some would find your claims less than impressive. |
AFKish
URBAN CHA0S WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2012.09.13 07:00:00 -
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You say you can't blob with 6 people but as I was referring to your alliance stats I'm sure we can agree you can blob with 30.
Also I never said you can't kill frigates I was just pointing out that soft targets whilst boosting quantity do little for the quality side of things unless its a 1v1 between frigates. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
888
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Posted - 2012.09.13 07:17:00 -
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Late Night Alliance
In the 9 months our alliance has been active...
~1 Trillion ISK in kills ~19k ships killed
24eme Legion Etrangere
In the 6 months your alliance has been active...
~ 150 billion ISK in kills ~ 2k ships killed
Not bad. But you need to step it up a few notches. And for the record... less than half of our alliance is actually active. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Perkin Warbeck
Amarrian Space Poodles 24eme Legion Etrangere
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Posted - 2012.09.13 07:23:00 -
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Lol. I'm suprised I rank that high to be honest! Not sure they got all my losses and those skill points calcs are well off too.
But I am proud of my Poodles. That number of kills with a corporation our size is a real achievement. There are quite a few juicy ones in there too. We will enjoy our moment in the sun but I am sure that normal service will resume next week.
And Shahfluffers - those stats are pretty impressive. We'll try and catch up. Promise. |
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
889
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Posted - 2012.09.13 07:41:00 -
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Perkin Warbeck wrote:And Shahfluffers - those stats are pretty impressive. We'll try and catch up. Promise. I'll hold you to that!
*chestbeats* Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Silence iKillYouu
KA POW POW Inc Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.13 08:25:00 -
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who? http://fw-frontline.blogspot.com/ |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
419
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Posted - 2012.09.13 08:31:00 -
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Perkin Warbeck wrote:Lol. I'm suprised I rank that high to be honest! Not sure they got all my losses and those skill points calcs are well off too. But I am proud of my Poodles. That number of kills with a corporation our size is a real achievement. There are quite a few juicy ones in there too. We will enjoy our moment in the sun although I am sure that normal service will resume next week. And Shahfluffers - those stats are pretty impressive. We'll try and catch up. Promise.
No, no it isn't impressive. But you know, keep on keeping on or what have you. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Markius TheShed
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
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Posted - 2012.09.13 09:05:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:Who are you and why should I care?
No, really. Who?
I think he's a new Cynthia Nezmor alt
Seriously well done we are all looking way over our shoulders for you.
**Murientor Tribe** Killing Slavers, Ammatar and Nafantar Traitors since YC107 |
Capitol One
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
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Posted - 2012.09.13 10:01:00 -
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Amarr Victor? |
March rabbit
R.I.P. Legion
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Posted - 2012.09.13 10:35:00 -
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well. you grind kills. someone (minmatar militia) grinds ISK. Everyone in business
Perkin Warbeck wrote: We had an absolute blast. And, judging from your lemming-like ability to leap into the jaws of death from any station undock in Hek, so did you!
hm... Have never thought that killing gunless frigates on undock gives you "absolute blast"
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.09.13 10:52:00 -
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ive never seen anyone link eve who for kill related stats, is there a reason for that? http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Perkin Warbeck
Amarrian Space Poodles 24eme Legion Etrangere
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Posted - 2012.09.13 11:08:00 -
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It's because 24eme Legion Entrangere are a separate alliance to the Amarr Empire. Our stats do not show on your killboard.
As far as I understand it Eve Who aggregates all alliance stats in each faction and reports on them. |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.09.13 16:50:00 -
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However eve who is also only counting FW kills, so anything non FW killed by a corp in FW will not appear in the count. Makes it so most people don't care about that particular stat.
However, well done, its hard to get to the top of any kb in regardless of the metric used
Perkin Warbeck wrote: As far as I understand it Eve Who aggregates all alliance stats in each faction and reports on them.
QCATs is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.09.13 17:28:00 -
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Perkin Warbeck wrote:As far as I understand it Eve Who aggregates all alliance stats in each faction and reports on them.
Eve who bases its stats off the API stats listed here: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE_API_EVE_Factional_Warfare_Top_Stats
Some important things to note:
-Kills in this page mean the pilot/corporation/alliance received the final blow on a killmail. Therefore this number will be significantly lower than traditional killboards which give credit for the kill to everybody on the KM.
-Points means the victory points (ie capturing plexes). The important caveat is that VP are not awarded when capturing your diagonal oppent's plexes.
-The corp/alliance information on eve who is mostly broken because the EVE API is horrible for FW. The only place in the API where ones militia affiliation appears is in the KM API. Since this isn't public, EVE Who has two choices. Process a bunch of killmails trying to build a database of which corp/alliance belongs to which faction and deal with the fact that it can be out of date or just grab the list of "top" corps/alliance from the FWTopStats.xml API. Eve Who did the latter which means it misses corps/alliances which don't rank in the top ten in something and it has no idea which faction the corps/alliances belong to.
QCATS is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180
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Perkin Warbeck
Amarrian Space Poodles 24eme Legion Etrangere
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Posted - 2012.09.13 23:14:00 -
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This is just too much fun!
Markius TheShed wrote:
Seriously well done we are all looking way over our shoulders for you.
Well if you insist on running away what do you expect?
Silence iKillYouu wrote:who?
TL;DR
Princess Nexxala wrote:However eve who is also only counting FW kills, so anything non FW killed by a corp in FW will not appear in the count. Makes it so most people don't care about that particular stat.
However, well done, its hard to get to the top of any kb in regardless of the metric used .
Thanks. Not being a pirate corporation FW kills are the only stat we care about though. I'm not sure we are ready to compete with the Goons.
Andre Vauban wrote: The corp/alliance information on eve who is mostly broken because the EVE API is horrible for FW
Which raises the serious question of why there aren't better stats for FW on a corporate/alliance level. The Imperial Fedaykin should on the list but aren't there and they kill a gagillion minmatar each and every week. Of course, I'm only asking this because we want to top that KB for a week too. |
Perkin Warbeck
Amarrian Space Poodles 24eme Legion Etrangere
65
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Posted - 2012.09.13 23:16:00 -
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Duplicate |
Horak Thor
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2012.09.16 20:05:00 -
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Perkin Warbeck wrote: judging from your lemming-like ability to leap into the jaws of death from any station undock in Hek, so did you!
Thinks he is pro.
Openly admits to high sec station camping for lemming kills.
Ill get my kills in actual combat thanks TRIAD is recruiting "TRIAD Agency" in game channel |
Horak Thor
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
85
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Posted - 2012.09.16 20:07:00 -
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Oh wow just checked your kb lmao
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Perkin+Warbeck http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1387840
19 kills 69 losses battleclinic 26 kills 99 losses eve-kill
Tell me more about how good you are at pvp?
Ps. Eve board isnt accurate atall so your wrong on every count TRIAD is recruiting "TRIAD Agency" in game channel |
kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:14:00 -
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Probably just a Cynthia alt. Have fun camping the undock. |
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery Swift Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.17 03:08:00 -
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Oh man, I got trolled so bad I actually replied to this thread. The skilful employer of men will employ the wise man, the brave man, the covetous man, and the stupid man. Sun Tzu localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Dan Carter Murray
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Posted - 2012.09.17 10:21:00 -
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http://a7th.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=111578 http://a7th.eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=20257 http://a7th.eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=54776
pro pvp = take no risks
amirite?
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lucifers widow
United Front Alliance renting corp
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Posted - 2012.09.17 12:31:00 -
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kraiklyn Asatru wrote:Probably just a Cynthia alt. Have fun camping the undock.
Thought it was you're corp camping Fweddit stations in high sec for weeks and would dock up when ever anything came along which would of given a fight ? |
kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
10
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Posted - 2012.09.17 19:38:00 -
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lucifers widow wrote:
Thought it was you're corp camping Fweddit stations in high sec for weeks and would dock up when ever anything came along which would of given a fight ?
You probably have the wrong corp in mind, afaik the only highsec kills my corps has been getting is in line with the latest campaign, which only started a few days ago. Not to mention half my corp is flashy and doesn't go anywhere near high sec.
http://triad-eve.net/killboard/?a=corp_detail&crp_ext_id=705444291&view=violent_systems
think the killboard is clear enough. Nearly all highsec kills have been in the past few days and are campaign related. |
Perkin Warbeck
Amarrian Space Poodles 24eme Legion Etrangere
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:09:00 -
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lucifers widow wrote: Thought it was you're corp camping Fweddit stations in high sec for weeks and would dock up when ever anything came along which would of given a fight ?
But that was part of a "CAMP-AIGN" so this qualifies as elite PvP. I assume the, um, gathering of falshy orange things on the Kam/Kourm gate night after night, week after week, month after fr*ggin month was also a "CAMP-AIGN" too.
Campaigning good. Camping bad. Got it.
Ordering the corp to not kill any war targets in high sec pronto. Naughty poodles! On entering Hek, members of the minmatar militia have the absolute right to immediately become internet space tourists. They offline their weapons, do not check local and would never, ever create a set of docking bookmarks. Such imbicelity should not be rewarded by being alphaed by a nado, taking a short ride on the pod express and then receiving a free Reaper in the station of your choice. Maybe you 'pros' could pass the message on?
Also this. Confirming that the Poodles are now a If Green Shoot It corporation. That will get the kb stats up in no time. |
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