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Amy Garzan
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:54:00 -
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Oranen
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Chewiest Bong Per his bio, CCP Zinfadel's motto: If all it cost you was money, it was a cheap lesson.
He needs to be taken out back and beaten like a red-headed stepchild with one of those monocles.
Agree, in the world of EVE this expansion is analagous to New Coke.
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Dawnmist
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:55:00 -
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Dear mister CCP Zinfandel. Even some people treat EVE Online not as a video game but as a hobby and enjoy investing in their hobby, you can stick your ocular implant up to your you know where.
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Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:56:00 -
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Edited by: Tobiaz on 22/06/2011 02:59:04
Someone who's only been with CCP for 1.5 year should not have such an influential position. He's a marketing/sales hack and it's obvious he knows barely anything about EVE at all.
He's the guy that put a vending-machine in the kitchen, then adds a jacuzzi to attract more people. And as we can now barely cook in the kitchen anymore, we're 'allowed' to use a small gas-stove in the cellar... for now.
Zinfandel and his ideas are poison.
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FunzzeR
The Wyld Hunt Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:56:00 -
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[00:44:42] CCP Zinfandel > Some people treat EVE Online not as a video game but as a hobby. They enjoy investing in their hobby and find that it makes them feel more connected with their hobby. We want to support that for those players who want it.
This is not Entropia Universe... He should be a dev for them... PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
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Nehaj
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:57:00 -
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Edited by: Nehaj on 22/06/2011 02:59:11 Edited by: Nehaj on 22/06/2011 02:57:54
Originally by: Katrina Cortez Ooooh, a lynching...nice
Ostracism, not lynching. The procedure as old as, and inseparable from, democracy itself: Ostracism
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Your Stuff
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:58:00 -
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First day at CCP 2010.01.08 Title/Department Senior Director, Sales & Marketing
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Quote: Motto If all it cost you was money, it was a cheap lesson.
BioIÆve been playing RPGs since 1978 and playing MMORPGs since 2006Æs Meridian 59. Have worked in the video games industry since 1993. My favorite terroir for zinfandel is probably Paso Robles.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:59:00 -
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Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Fire him.
A company can't just fire someone and we do not have evidence this employee was responsible for this. The company needs to investigate the business department. And terminate those who have shown nothing but absolute lack of knowledge of their customers.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:03:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 22/06/2011 03:04:18 The web team, the marketing team, and the HR team while you're at it.
Probably best place to start is the HR team.
Originally by: Zachstar And terminate those who have shown nothing but absolute lack of knowledge of their customers.
But.... His *job* is to bull**** us.
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Kez Aumer
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Zachstar we do not have evidence this employee was responsible for this
He's head of the department. He's responsible alright.
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Zeta Kalin
Large Rodent Hunters
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: XIRUSPHERE Discuss
Against, need some quality time with him, a vice and a drill before.
-- This was the time, CCP was still CCP, it was good. |
Myxx
Atropos Group
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:06:00 -
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Generally, I like most of the marketing people, strangely enough.
Zinfindel, though? So far, from what I've seen of him, by and large isn't impressive. I won't lynch him for this, because I and everyone else lacks proof this is his doing.
Though the dev who set prices needs to have his ass kicked, I agree. IF it does turn out to be Zinfindel... well... I don't think I need to explain what is probably expected by a great many people. --
Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
Originally by: Tom Gerard
Then again... I am a moron.
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Evelgrivion
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:06:00 -
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Zifandel is just a Hero for Team Awesome to use as a front. He'll take the public praise if it's there to go around, and Team Awesome validate themselves through him. When things go **** up, it's his fault, and we get threads like this.
If you want heads to blame, start taking a good, long look at Torfifrans and how he actually relates to EVE Online outside of his ludicrous posturing outside of Alliance Tournament 9. Hint: He had absolutely nothing to do with championing The Little Things.
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S'qarpium D'igil
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Cave Lord Although I don't like ANYTHING that breaks in-game immersion, I can not and will not support a personal-attack on a particular person. Especially since it is their job. We need to take this up with CCP as a whole, not bash a particular person. Remember, he can't do anything unless it is approved. Firing him will solve *nothing*.
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Azahni Vah'nos
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:10:00 -
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CCP Zinfandel needs to be put on a very short leash, because he appears to be completely out of touch with reality. This is based on the comments I've seen him make so far.
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: KurnKuku Edited by: KurnKuku on 22/06/2011 02:46:04
Originally by: Zachstar In my opinion CCP as a company needs to call into question the contribution the biz department has shown. Which in my opinion is not only zero but is adversely affecting the company.
In a company meeting I had recently. The discussion was on balancing customer service with productivity. If you sway too far to one you harm the other.
In this case in my opinion the departments ideas have just cracked the balance altogether providing negative customer PR and negative productivity for the company,
It is time to take action CCP. If your department does not want to do their job then it is time to terminate their employment.
CCP is going to be rolling in the money, as opposed to facing bankruptcy. If anything, the people who implemented this are going to be getting big christmas bonuses :)
Doubtful. Highly doubtful. ______________________________
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Dasatei
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Azahni Vah'nos CCP Zinfandel needs to be put on a very short leash, because he appears to be completely out of touch with reality. This is based on the comments I've seen him make so far.
this SO much this
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:16:00 -
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I doubt he deserves all the blame but these prices are totally absurd when you figure the real life currency they cost.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Nehaj
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Evelgrivion Zifandel is just a Hero for Team Awesome to use as a front. He'll take the public praise if it's there to go around, and Team Awesome validate themselves through him. When things go **** up, it's his fault, and we get threads like this.
If you want heads to blame, start taking a good, long look at Torfifrans and how he actually relates to EVE Online outside of his ludicrous posturing outside of Alliance Tournament 9. Hint: He had absolutely nothing to do with championing The Little Things.
ô A fish is cleaned from the tail, although it stinks from the head.ö
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Dasatei
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest I doubt he deserves all the blame but these prices are totally absurd when you figure the real life currency they cost.
I think his removal might get the point across though
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Zeta Kalin
Large Rodent Hunters
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Cave Lord Although I don't like ANYTHING that breaks in-game immersion, I can not and will not support a personal-attack on a particular person. Especially since it is their job. We need to take this up with CCP as a whole, not bash a particular person. Remember, he can't do anything unless it is approved. Firing him will solve *nothing*.
Dilution of personal responsibility may be exactly what's wrong with CCP. Someone had the power to veto all that ******ed crap and didn't, and if it backfires it's only fair that the one responsible for it pay for it, along with the people who originated the ideas.
If I was a CCP programmer busting my ass off to retain customers by fixing bugs, improving the UI and working on lag I'd sure be disgusted to be associated with that stuff. It's not a mythical CCP's responsibility, it's only a few people at CCP ruining the hard work of others, and the sooner they are out the door the better the company and the players are off.
Calling for people's head may be bad, but then no one forced him to ruin your customer experience.
-- This was the time, CCP was still CCP, it was good. |
cerbus
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:22:00 -
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Edited by: cerbus on 22/06/2011 03:25:00 If CCP gets rid of Zinfandel can I have him? You guys have it all wrong, CCP would be worse without him.
cerbus
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:24:00 -
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Signed
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:27:00 -
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Y'all need to stop with the outright defamation of a CCP employee. You are NOT an employee of CCP so you have NO I repeat NO evidence an individual is responsible. The group or department or the company needs to be requested to take action to improve their relationship with the customers and in my OPINION one aspect of that is the termination of employment of those who are doing these things tho that is an internal matter.
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Khysanth Onyx
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:28:00 -
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KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL
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Chewiest Bong
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: Zachstar Y'all need to stop with the outright defamation of a CCP employee. You are NOT an employee of CCP so you have NO I repeat NO evidence an individual is responsible. The group or department or the company needs to be requested to take action to improve their relationship with the customers and in my OPINION one aspect of that is the termination of employment of those who are doing these things tho that is an internal matter.
Hey, moron. I'd just like to point out that we're not defaming him. We're just simply posting what he's actually TOLD US, the customer base. I'm not attacking his character, just his competence to perform his job title adequately. So **** off, eat **** and die. (Now that's a personal attack)
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar Fleet of Doom RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tobiaz Edited by: Tobiaz on 22/06/2011 02:59:04
Someone who's only been with CCP for 1.5 year should not have such an influential position. He's a marketing/sales hack and it's obvious he knows barely anything about EVE at all.
He's the guy that put a vending-machine in the kitchen, then adds a jacuzzi to attract more people. And as we can now barely cook in the kitchen anymore, we're 'allowed' to use a small gas-stove in the cellar... for now.
Zinfandel and his ideas are poison.
eve started going down hill about 1.5 years ago :( look at the last 3 major updates...
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Discrodia
Gallente Symbiosis International Moose Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zachstar Y'all need to stop with the outright defamation of a CCP employee. You are NOT an employee of CCP so you have NO I repeat NO evidence an individual is responsible. The group or department or the company needs to be requested to take action to improve their relationship with the customers and in my OPINION one aspect of that is the termination of employment of those who are doing these things tho that is an internal matter.
We are the consumers. At the end of the day, we determine if CCP lives or dies. And so help us god if some dip**** in the business department ruined our game (Which they didn't, they just only added stuff that made it worse (Except the turrets and Maller, love those)) then if EVE starts hemorrhaging players CCP might very well need to take action against the problem.
Hell, CCP, I'd say that if you just revert the server to it's pre-Incarna state (Not counting aforementioned turrets and Maller) I would say this day might have been a hell of a lot brighter.
Originally by: anonymous WE JUST DID SCIENCE!
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REiiGN15
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:35:00 -
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Only money CCP will get with this new Aurum bs is that of very sad individuals who do this as a hobby(addiction). Doesn't matter, it's not a game breaker for me. I'm honestly really not affected by the CQ stuff. PC can handle it but besides that I rarely go to stations anyhow. An answer given by a CCP dev does not need to include a smart-ass role-playing bs answer(referring to monocle answer).
Is CCP high on volcanic ash? Like everyone has said, fix your MT fast. ================================================= What is right is not always popular, and what is popular is not always right. |
Brujo Loco
Amarr Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Zachstar Y'all need to stop with the outright defamation of a CCP employee. You are NOT an employee of CCP so you have NO I repeat NO evidence an individual is responsible. The group or department or the company needs to be requested to take action to improve their relationship with the customers and in my OPINION one aspect of that is the termination of employment of those who are doing these things tho that is an internal matter.
But He's "been playing RPGs since 1978 and playing MMORPGs since 2006Æs Meridian 59. Have worked in the video games industry since 1993. My favorite terroir for zinfandel is probably Paso Robles."
Paso Robles
Paso Robles
Paso Roblessss .....
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