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Syn Fatelyng
Galactic Eden Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:55:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Fatelyng on 22/06/2011 05:03:03 CQ is running at an average 39 frames per second for me (vsync on), while dual clienting. This average remains that high even with both characters in CQ.
Would I prefer it to run at 60 fps? Of course, but I'm not sure if it is a limitation of hardware or the design of CQ itself.
To help identify this, and hopefully allow CCP to gather information to make constructive changes, please post your computer specifications on CPU speed and number of cores, GPU model and amount of RAM, system RAM, and either a brief overview of your graphical settings in the game or a screenshot. Then, feel free to explain what works well and what does not.
CPU: Intel Core 2 DUO @ 4.00GHz (2 core) GPU: ATI 5870 w/ 1G of RAM RAM: 4G Settings: Dual client, http://i.imgur.com/ZhQzv.jpg
What works well: The game runs at an average of 39fps with very few stutters or drops in fps while both clients are in CQ. It's playable and enjoyable, for myself. I have no graphical corruption or texture glitching. All features seem to work.
What works poorly: Both EVE clients are using 1G of RAM, each. and ~90% CPU combined. Rare, but severe, drops in FPS that freeze the game for a few seconds. Typing seems to, rarely, have a delayed effect; letters typed can, in these instances, take 2-3 seconds to display.
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cyclobs
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:57:00 -
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40 > usally, higher depending where i look on maxed out settings
CPU - amd phenom II 1100T (6 core) at ~4Ghz gpu - ATI 6990 ram - 16GB HDD - seagate spinner! (like my stati... oh wait)
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Velani Askiras
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:59:00 -
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CPU: AMD Athlong 64 x2 Dual Core 5200+ 2.6Ghz GPU: GeForce GTX 275 RAM: 4G Graphic Settings: Max Settings with 1 client no FPS issues, with 2 clients i have to turn of AA and Shadows to enjoy it.
It could be worse.. but i know with 3 or 4 clients i will have to turn of CQ.
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Khira Kitamatsu
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:00:00 -
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Well here is my system specs and I have no issues.
MB Gigabyte - GA-P67A-UD3-B3 P6 PSU Corsair 1000W CPU Intel/Core I5 2500 3.3G 6M Mem 4Gx2/G.Skill F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL VGA EVGA/ 1Gig-P3-1373-AR GTX460
Run two clients without so much as a hic-up/graphics on full. 1920x1200 24" LCD
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Regan Rotineque
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:05:00 -
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CPU i7-870 8GB RAM ATI 5870 1GB
All seems well...not overheating and everything seems crisp and clean
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Syn Fatelyng
Galactic Eden Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:06:00 -
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Topic name modified to encourage people who have less desirable experiences with CQ to post their specifications.
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5nake pliskan
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:08:00 -
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i7 2.8ghz 4gb ddr3 nvidia GT 220 1gb rocketfish audio (SB chip) win 7 64bit ultimate
running in 2880 x 900 full screen mode
nothing special to report, the usual mild framerate issues from running the 220 across 2 displays, nothing new due to incarna, at least not visually ------------------------------------------------ There is a theory which states that if anyone discovers just exactly what the universe is for and why we are here, that it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. Then there is a theory which states that this has already happened. á á -Douglas Adams
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Abbud Khardula
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:09:00 -
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Athlon II X4 640 3,0GHz AMD Radeon 5770 1GB 3GB DDR2-800
45fps average in CQ, everything on max, AA 2X, 1920x1080.
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Nhi'Khuna
The Environmental Management Team
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Syn Fatelyng Topic name modified to encourage people who have less desirable experiences with CQ to post their specifications.
Thus denoting your bias?
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Syn Fatelyng
Galactic Eden Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Nhi'Khuna Thus denoting your bias?
No bias, I assure you. It was poorly worded in such a way that gave off a bias when that was not my intention.
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Kastigar Antarius
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:11:00 -
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Edited by: Kastigar Antarius on 22/06/2011 05:11:59 CPU: Intel i7 960 GPU: nvidia evga GTX 560 1g DDR5 RAM: 6g DDR3 Setting: one client max settings OS: Windows 7 64bit
60-65 fps
edit: added OS
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Adrian Styles
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:13:00 -
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Dual clients running fine, flickers between 59-60 FPS.
CPU: i7 920 GPU: GTX 560 RAM: 6GB DDR3
2048x1152
GPU temp raises from low 40's, to high 70's when both clients are docked, otherwise no issues so far.
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Syn Fatelyng
Galactic Eden Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: Adrian Styles GPU temp raises from low 40's, to high 70's when both clients are docked, otherwise no issues so far.
I've experienced similar, although less dramatic changes in my GPU temperature.
This may explain slowdown for certain individuals. If their CPU/GPU is overheating it will safely underclock to reduce damage to the chip, and thus slow down their frame per second.
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Delphinae Leight
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:17:00 -
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Edited by: Delphinae Leight on 22/06/2011 05:18:28 60fps constant, max settings. CPU and GPU temps rose a fair bit compared to the old station setup, however.
Intel i7-2600k @ 4.8ghz MSi R6950 @ 840mhz, 2gb DDR5 8gb DDR3 RAM
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Sharen silvermoon
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:17:00 -
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run smoothly with 60 FPS
CPU:Intel core 2 quad Q9550 @ 2.83Ghz GPU: 2X ATI Radeaon HD 4800 RAM: 8G
running in 1680 x 1050 full screen mode
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Fallon Windskimmer
Dedicated Inactivity
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:18:00 -
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When I tested on SISI on Saturday, with two clients and maxed settings (however, no AA), I was averaging about 30 to 35-ish FPS with nothing akin to a stutter. I consider my limitation my video card, as it is surely the weakest link in my system. I just put this together about 2 weeks ago. (Didn't have the cash to really do it up on the card, so held over what I had)
Specs are:
cpu: core i7 2600k @ 4.3 (I'm a pansy oc'er) gpu: radeon HD5770 1 GB DDR5 ram: 16 GB @1600 MHz
With my (minor) oc on the 2600k I have no issues at all running 2 clients with CQ on. I did notice that CPU use was up quite noticeably as compared to it off (I hit 33% utilization once as a high mark with 2 CQs on, I think it doesn't much get about 8-10% with it off, if that much). Ram use hit a tick over 5 GB I think, but with 16, I can't say I much cared (and I should note that the tick over 5 GB was my total usage under Win 7 - not saying that EVE alone ate up 5 GB).
Of more concern to me at the time of testing (and this seems relevant considering the comments here on the forums) were the temps. I hit a max on the GPU of 55 C and my hottest core on the 2600k hit 47 C. My experience was that with CQ on, I DID NOT see a particular rise on my GPU temps. It was up about 5 C from my previous 52 C with 2 clients (TQ, prior to Incarna), and since I have disabled the CQ (I don't much care for it personally - I'm very meh about it) I have not seen any difference. With Incarna, and CQ disabled, I still see 52 C on my GPU. I should note, that I did crank the fan up to 75%, but I don't care about the high pitched whine, as I have a window air conditioner sitting 3 feet from my ear that is far, far louder. Ambient temperature of my room is about 22 C (go window ac!).
As for the CPU temps, that 47 C I mentioned was not a steady temp. I tend to sit about 35-40 C most of the time with 2 clients running (with idle temps of about 29-32 C across the 4 cores). Temps of course fluctuate up and down, and that 47 C was the hottest I saw. For the technical folks, this was seen with multiple programs - Real Temp, Core Temp, CPUID HW Monitor, Speedfan, and AIDA64.
So, my experience has been that Incarna has in fact, NOT changed all that much from a "stressing the hardware" standpoint. Yes, CPU utilization with 2 CQs running was far higher than previous, and sure, I eat up a fair chunk of ram. But, this system seems to be limited only by the old(ish) tech of the GPU. I'm sure some $500+ (or even $300+) card would offer better FPS.
Lastly, since some folks have been talking about the temperature thing - I've stressed my oc with both Prime95 and linpack (or some variation of linpack I guess). Hottest temp I've seen with 100% CPU utilization is 60 C, with 59 C being far more common (60 C really was a temp peak). This was the hottest core. I'm running on air, with a nice Zalman cooler. And yes, I know the 2600k has far more in it than 4.3. I'm just a pansy as I said at the beginning.
For someone with new tech, Incarna should be ok, but I shudder to think what my 5 year old AMD 64 X2 4200+ would put out.
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar Heretic Army B A N E
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:19:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 22/06/2011 05:34:53
CPU: AMD Athlon64 3000+ GPU: NVidia GTS 450 w/ 1G RAM RAM: 1G
Low shaders, medium textures, no antialiasing. Low quality characters w/ high quality textures, medium 'interior' quality setting. Fixed window 1280x1024 on two monitors, dual clients giving me trouble since Incursion so both clients on the same screen 'behind' each other.
Does run at just about 30fps in CQ. I did notice a short performance drop when turrets deploy for the first time while in space, as well as icons loading for the first time when in inventory of any kind, which is most likely due to the horribly low amount of RAM.
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Aeveen
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:19:00 -
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Edited by: Aeveen on 22/06/2011 05:22:10 Edited by: Aeveen on 22/06/2011 05:19:41 Alienware Aurora ALX Intel i7 930 quad core @ 3.1ghz ATI Radeon HD 6870 6gig 1899mhz RAM 1 TB RAID 1 HDDs Windows 7 Ultimate x64
80 - 90 FPS in CQ on all max settings. Stedy 60 with vsync. Card gets HOT but does not over heat even after 30 mins or so.
Note even with vsync my fans shoot up to 55% in CQ. It's fine in space. This is not an issue for me however.
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Tellenta
Gallente versic LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:20:00 -
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It runs smooth as silk, then the fan from my CPU sets my house on fire. Going to need more houses.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:20:00 -
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CPU is AMD Phenom II X3 720 overclocked to 3.2 on stock voltage with Rosewill 3rd party cooler. GPU is ATI 4770 (40nm version of the 4850) stock clocks stock cooling. Ram is Gskill 4gb
No problems at all running one client. Temps moving some but nothing bad as I tested by build with Prime95 therefore EVE cant overheat my CPU.
With two client it only suffers if one is docked with CQ on. I am convinced this is a bug for now and is manageable with one minimized. Out in space no changes from other builds.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:22:00 -
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Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 22/06/2011 05:23:47 Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 22/06/2011 05:22:21 Nexus Edge big tower / 6xfuns 4x120mm 1x170+/-mm AMD Phenom x4 9850 OCed 3,2GHz / Mungen II, rev.B cooler /top temperature 57 ATI 4870x2 / well i rather not write the temperature here ..xD could get it up to 96 degrees 6 GB DDR2 / 800MHz
two accoutns 30-70 fps outside around 30 fps in CQ
ad graph glitches happens / but it happened even before ...
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Syn Fatelyng
Galactic Eden Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:23:00 -
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What about graphical glitches, corruption, and similar? Who seems to be having those issues and what are your hardware specs?
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Merrick Saraki
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:23:00 -
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FRAPs or it didn't happen.
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cyclobs
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:24:00 -
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none for me but i only walked around without being able to see anything and turned it off :D
power is getting expencive :( probably should of thought of that before buying something that requires 700w
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Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:25:00 -
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E8400 @3.0 GHz stock cooler with a lot of dust (yeah, my bad) 460 GTX overclocked 4 gb DDR2 800 ram PK5 mobo WIN7x64
CPU is hitting 100% as usual with new stuff. max temp is hitting 72 C VGA is fine, hitting 55 C
CQ is running pretty good with high graphics. EVE is somehow prettier now, running fine.
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Graf Tomson
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:25:00 -
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I guess an ATI 4650 is now low end. I'm sure as hell only getting 20 fps with major hiccups with two clients running.
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Syndeq
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:29:00 -
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CPU: Intel i7 2600k @ 4.6 GPU: 470GTX/285GTX/9800GTX/HD6950 (shaders unlocked and OC'd). Yes I have tested it on 4 cards to see temps. RAM: 16g DDR3 @ 1600 OS: Windows 7 64bit
Multiple settings, all at 2560x1600 res on a single screen fixed window and full screen.
The 470GTX got a bit toasty but under nvidia max temp. The other cards ran at normal temps, CPU temps were fine across the board. CQ runs smoothly (I wonder if CCP can make us walk SLOWER though?), undocking shows no changes.
Yet to try multiple clients, Alice: madness returns was calling...
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder E8400 @3.0 GHz stock cooler with a lot of dust (yeah, my bad) 460 GTX overclocked 4 gb DDR2 800 ram PK5 mobo WIN7x64
CPU is hitting 100% as usual with new stuff. max temp is hitting 72 C VGA is fine, hitting 55 C
CQ is running pretty good with high graphics. EVE is somehow prettier now, running fine.
72C is a dangerous Temp for a CPU. Sorry for this in the OPs thread but I seriously suggest tending to your CPU cooling system or have it serviced before possible failure.
Remember that many components of a motherboard such as the MOSFETs are cooled by the exhaust air from the CPU. Therefore if it is clogged you risk damaging things such as the MOSFETS and northbridge.
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Syndeq
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder E8400 @3.0 GHz stock cooler with a lot of dust (yeah, my bad) 460 GTX overclocked 4 gb DDR2 800 ram PK5 mobo WIN7x64
CPU is hitting 100% as usual with new stuff. max temp is hitting 72 C VGA is fine, hitting 55 C
CQ is running pretty good with high graphics. EVE is somehow prettier now, running fine.
You do realize max temp per intel on this CPU is 72.4C? That number looked high for that series of CPU so I had to look it up. Running it for long periods at that temp is going to kill it.
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Syn Fatelyng
Galactic Eden Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:36:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Fatelyng on 22/06/2011 05:36:59
Originally by: Zachstar 72C is a dangerous Temp for a CPU. Sorry for this in the OPs thread but I seriously suggest tending to your CPU cooling system or have it serviced before possible failure.
I'm going to agree. I'm running the same chip (e8400 Wolfdale series) and my peak CPU temperature tends to be around 55 with idle at 33 with air cooling and a non-stock headsink/fan combination. It is something to consider because of what is housed around and near your chipset and how dangerous it can become while clogged to the components around it.
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