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caldar ian
Final Destination.
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Posted - 2011.07.26 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Abriael VonRosen
Originally by: caldar ian Turn CQ off
on patch night I had a motherboard and cpu burn out while playing incarna ( regardless of what the techy geeks say)
Turn station environment off and leave it off it serves no purpose, less stress on your system.
You may definitely want to check your case ventilation.
really ? another useful techy geek reply.
ventilation was fine never had any problems until Incarna was running.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.26 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: caldar ian ventilation was fine never had any problems until Incarna was running.
Yeah, because you were NOT using your GPU at near-100% before. Incarna didn't automagically break your GPU/CPU/mobo, it was just stressing them to the max of what you were letting them go.
I'm not saying this as if it's a good thing - it's never a good thing to keep your machine at near-100% usage regardless of what that usage might be, since it will lead to a shorter overall lifespan. But if the machine breaks after a short while at near-100%, it would have broken soon enough without near-100% usage too, and cooling WAS to be blamed at least partially. |
caldar ian
Final Destination.
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Posted - 2011.07.26 10:38:00 -
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Eveisreal
it cost me a new motherboard and cpu lol |
Achualdar
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Posted - 2011.07.26 10:49:00 -
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Anyone else noticed a significant temperature drop after the last patch and even more one of these days?
With two clients (Core i5 750 quad, 2.66GHz, Sapphire HD 5850 1GB, 8GB RAM) at max settings (50-60 fps), my CPU temperature has dropped about 4-5ŚC, GPU 10-12ŚC so now I'm practically running cold (CPU at 36ŚC, GPU at 58ŚC)
CPU usage between 0-20% at most times and no, I don't work for CCP
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Amsterdam Conversations
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Posted - 2011.07.26 11:02:00 -
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Why would you pay 1000$ on a computer, then save money on the GFX card? That just makes no sense. It's pretty much the most important part of all when using Windows for playing games and using the interwebs.
The thing is, 100$ or 250$ on a processor don't really make a difference, on a graphics card they do. Processors from 3 or 4 years ago will run at least EVE fine, so should a higher-end gfx card. But a "HD 5500" sounds more like something you'd put into a mainboard or into an HTPC, that is nothing to render 3d graphics with.
I'm running EVE and Incarna fine on a 9800 GTX+, that card is roughly 4 years old. Although I'm only looking at a door, since the other option is rather annoying. |
Taipion
Caldari Operations Control United Pod Service
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Posted - 2011.07.26 11:30:00 -
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I got no clue why everyone says it does not run properly. -.-
I got a 4890 XFX and its all smooth and shiny in highest settings.
No high temperature, no nothing, all fine.
On the other side:
1.) CQ takes MUCH more off my hardware than a FleetFight with 300+ ships and 2000 drones/fighters around me.
2.) Performance of just flying in space DROPPED a lot, without looking any better, before incarna I could run 3 windows of eve on my screen at once, now I have the same performance with just 2, thatst stupid, what did they do there?
And the size of each client-instance exploded! was like 600MB per client prior to incarna, now its ~1 GB, sometimes more, CQ eating 1,2GB usually, what the hell?!
...at least, now no one laughs at me anymore for having 12 GB RAM. -.- |
Stroveni
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Posted - 2011.07.26 11:49:00 -
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I have the Dell XPS 17 which copes really well on highest settings, the graphics card does get hotter than a Mcdonalds apple pie though. :S |
Thenoran
Caldari Tranquility Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.26 12:04:00 -
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My system runs CQ without any issues, it has an i7 2600K at 3.4ghz, GTX 580 Direct CU II, 8gb 1600mhz DDR3 RAM and Win7 is on Solid State although EVE itself isn't.
No issues, whereas my older setup with a GTX 285 and a Core 2 Duo had issues with dust clouds but CQ ran fine. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.26 12:11:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 26/07/2011 12:12:21
Originally by: Thenoran [...]i7 2600K at 3.4ghz, GTX 580 Direct CU II [...] No issues[...]
Well, if you got any issues with that video card, I would eat my hat (which I don't even have, so I'd have to buy one first). With "interval immediate", you should be able to push around 120 FPS (quite possibly more) in almost all places in CQ at FDH resolution with maxed-out everything, so with "interval one" on a 60Hz monitor, your GPU usage should be hovering at only 50% (and your CPU usage probably under 20%, quite possibly less). OF COURSE you should have no issues. |
Darcel Black
Gallente Aribar Industries Terminal Ferocity
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Posted - 2011.07.26 12:14:00 -
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I have a 5770, it can run Crysis 2 on all Extreme graphics with a good FPS. However, Captains Quarters runs like ****. It lags all of the other interface too, such as fitting window and items. Because of this I do not use it, but CCP have put that crappy image instead of the hangar. |
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.26 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Darcel Black Crysis 2
Crysis 2 puts less of a strain on a machine than Crysis 1. Crysis 2 is what people derisively call "a console port" (it's not quite that, but dangerously close - it was designed with consoles heavily in mind). |
Zagam
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Posted - 2011.07.26 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 26/07/2011 10:14:22
Also, what the bloody hell is a "ATI Radeon HD 5500" ?!?
There's only Radeon HD 5450 through Radeon HD 5970 (Radeon HD 5870 being the last "single chip" in the lineup), and the performance difference between them is staggering - the 5970 is roughly one order of magnitude faster than the 5450 (theoretical GFLOPs 4640 vs 104, passmark rating 2606 vs 313), while the 5870 is no slouch either (theoretical GFLOPS 2720, passmark 2719). For reference's sake, a stock GTX 460 has a theoretical GFLOPS of 907 (NVIDIA works with less but more complicated math units at higher frequency, raw GFLOPS is never to be compared directly between ATI and NVIDIA as indicator of gaming FPS - if anything, you'd need to multiply by at least two if not three, so let's call that around 1800-2700) and a passmark rating of 2356.
P.S. I get 40-75 FPS in Incarna with my GTX 460 (monitor refresh rate is 85, not 60).
P.P.S. I still disable the station environment.
I'm running a GTX 460 also, and have very few problems. Temps do run a bit high with the station environment (waiting for 1.0.2 to turn it back on), and ventilation is no issue. Overall, the GTX 460 is a solid GPU, and runs most anything well.
For the OP - Part of your problem is that its an ATI (EVE is highly customized for nVidia). Also, your GPU, as other posters have mentioned, is more of a general use card, and not for gaming.
Clean out your case, make sure your cables are bundled, and turn some of your settings down if you want max performance. |
Cedar Locus
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Posted - 2011.07.26 13:39:00 -
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my good old 9800GT dont want any of this incarna bull**** |
Not-Apsalar
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Posted - 2011.07.26 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Darcel Black I have a 5770, it can run Crysis 2 on all Extreme graphics with a good FPS. However, Captains Quarters runs like ****. It lags all of the other interface too, such as fitting window and items. Because of this I do not use it, but CCP have put that crappy image instead of the hangar.
Don't have the same problem with my 5770, sounds like a you problem |
Naran Eto
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Posted - 2011.07.26 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Naran Eto on 26/07/2011 15:50:42 Edited by: Naran Eto on 26/07/2011 15:50:30
Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 26/07/2011 10:14:22
Also, what the bloody hell is a "ATI Radeon HD 5500" ?!?
probably this?
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Naran Eto
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Posted - 2011.07.26 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Amsterdam Conversations Why would you pay 1000$ on a computer, then save money on the GFX card? That just makes no sense. It's pretty much the most important part of all when using Windows for playing games and using the interwebs.
The thing is, 100$ or 250$ on a processor don't really make a difference, on a graphics card they do. Processors from 3 or 4 years ago will run at least EVE fine, so should a higher-end gfx card. But a "HD 5500" sounds more like something you'd put into a mainboard or into an HTPC, that is nothing to render 3d graphics with.
I'm running EVE and Incarna fine on a 9800 GTX+, that card is roughly 4 years old. Although I'm only looking at a door, since the other option is rather annoying.
At the moment i am running on a 9500 with 1.5gb memory, surprisingly it's running noticabley better than the 9800 1gb memory i had in there :D |
Arielle Devereux
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Posted - 2011.07.26 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: caldar ian
really ? another useful techy geek reply.
ventilation was fine never had any problems until Incarna was running.
"ventilation was fine" is a mighty generic statement. Motherboards and CPUs don't just "burn" like that due to some stress given by a game. They have security measures in place to avoid them, and when excessive temperatures are reached the computer shuts down, unless there's something wrong with them, there are excessive overclocks, or heat management in the computer is so bad that the security shutdown doesn't happen in time.
A computer that doesn't have problems should be able to fun for extensive periods at 100% CPU usage for extensive periods without having anything that burns, that's how people test their rigs, using tools like Prime95 or similar.
Sorry for the "geek reply", but that's simply what it is. If you want to continue to blame CCP and Incarna, please do, it always feels better to have a scapegoat to put the blame on. |
Jennifer Drama
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Posted - 2011.07.26 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Cedar Locus my good old 9800GT dont want any of this incarna bull****
My 9800GT runs two incarna clients with medium graphics just fine. It's an excellent (though dated) card.
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BLACK-STAR
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Posted - 2011.07.26 20:06:00 -
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EVEisReal. Killed my gtx... http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/images/mrgdxwqRIh.jpg
just got a radeon replacement, this runs cooler. I would only credit the copper heat-pipes that keep GPU/card temps cool. http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/images/zMDiMFSGTh.jpg
walking in stations is permanently disabled, for all time. I want my space ships.. want my hanger spin.. and my unlimited fittings...
CCP, you there? you can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
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Diesel74
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Posted - 2011.07.26 20:14:00 -
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You need atleast a GTX 590 Liquid Cooled ($800) to run INCARNA at 12 FPS.
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Lithalnas
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.26 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Diesel74 You need atleast a GTX 590 Liquid Cooled ($800) to run INCARNA at 12 FPS.
check and see if your antialiasing is agreeing with eachother, sometimes when AA in the game is off and the control panel has it on, then you can loose frames. You can change this by setting the interval level.
Also see if you can update your driver, the early 590 drivers were good for 3D mark but not so much a compadable with everything driver. -------------
Mictro-Transactions can bite my shinny metal exhaust port. |
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