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Vandrion Gallente The Collective B O R G	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:43:00 - [12211] DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this Dev Blog do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP.
Govinda Sertan	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:45:00 - [12212] Edited by: Govinda Sertan on 27/06/2011 17:46:09 Originally by: Constantinus Maximus Gotta repost his comment, it's gold. Originally by: Jarnobi Offcourse they made a game to make money....dont be so naief....also i prolly dont know whats this whining is all about, its is rly TL;DR but if this hussle is stil about the ** you can buy for Incarna then i dont get it.... Stop whining about the exspensive **, if its to exspensive then DONT buy it, its as simple as that. I would like to see ppl go to the BMW factories and protest because the car is to exspensive, and ask them to lower the price because they wanne drive an BMW. But offcourse i can be totaly wrong, and this is not about the boots and all the other dress up stuffzzz..... And now, imagine Eve Online full of ... that. ... ... ...
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:46:00 - [12213] Originally by: Vandrion DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this Dev Blog do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP. Written 2004? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
jackaloped	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:46:00 - [12214] Oh the CSM PR STUNT BLOG Originally by: Vandrion DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this Dev Blog do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP.
Kazini Jax Gallente Starlight Operations Starlight Network	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:47:00 - [12215] Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 27/06/2011 15:48:56 Time, according to theoretical physicist Julian Barbour it definitely does not exist. Instead, there is a series of "eternal nows" each seperate from the other with their own seperate configuration. It's the relationship between these seperate nows that create the illusion of time, similar to how a movie is a sequence of still shots but the illusion of continuous motion is created because the stills are shot at a speed greater than what our eye can detect. Part of where this comes up is with the unification of General Relativity with Quantum Mechanics. They have such different ideas of time that, according to Julian, the only way to create a marriage between the two is to say there is no time. This is represented in the Wheeler-Dewitt Equation, which has a property "known as timelessness. The reemergence of time requires the tools of decoherence and clock operators." So, basically CCP should just change to a different NOW NOW and all will be fine. Someone watches Throught The Wormhole. Almost quoted exactly. One theory of many
Askerius	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:47:00 - [12216] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Wait! We're still not done with this whole WMD in Iraq thing. I may have to point out what the difference is between a weapon of mass destruction and a mass casualty weapon. Are u truly believe in this? Iraq is just the matter of OIL! Non less! And government are hiding its intension's saying something stupid like "it's for the peace in the world" they do not have right to invade to Iraq!
Zuquar Bonaparte New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:47:00 - [12217] Originally by: Jarnobi Offcourse they made a game to make money....dont be so naief....also i prolly dont know whats this whining is all about, its is rly TL;DR but if this hussle is stil about the ** you can buy for Incarna then i dont get it.... Stop whining about the exspensive , if its to exspensive then DONT buy it, its as simple as that. I would like to see ppl go to the BMW factories and protest because the car is to exspensive, and ask them to lower the price because they wanne drive an BMW. But offcourse i can be totaly wrong, and this is not about the boots and all the other dress up stuffzzz..... thing is BMW wont charge you to enter there factory and then hope you allso will buy there car and then charge you extra for the steering wheel once you actually buy it. MT IN EVE? HELL NO !!** Linkage
Vandrion Gallente The Collective B O R G	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:48:00 - [12218] Originally by: Constantinus Maximus Originally by: Vandrion DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this Dev Blog do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP. Written 2004? You don't see what I did there, do you??
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:51:00 - [12219] Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 17:51:55 Originally by: Vandrion You don't see what I did there, do you?? Do now :-P I would have expected that wording though, on all devblogs, to show how "cool" they are. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:51:00 - [12220] Originally by: Kazini Jax Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 27/06/2011 15:48:56 Time, according to theoretical physicist Julian Barbour it definitely does not exist. Instead, there is a series of "eternal nows" each seperate from the other with their own seperate configuration. It's the relationship between these seperate nows that create the illusion of time, similar to how a movie is a sequence of still shots but the illusion of continuous motion is created because the stills are shot at a speed greater than what our eye can detect. Part of where this comes up is with the unification of General Relativity with Quantum Mechanics. They have such different ideas of time that, according to Julian, the only way to create a marriage between the two is to say there is no time. This is represented in the Wheeler-Dewitt Equation, which has a property "known as timelessness. The reemergence of time requires the tools of decoherence and clock operators." So, basically CCP should just change to a different NOW NOW and all will be fine. Someone watches Throught The Wormhole. Almost quoted exactly. One theory of many I got it from ATS site.

Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:52:00 - [12221] Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte Originally by: Jarnobi Offcourse they made a game to make money....dont be so naief....also i prolly dont know whats this whining is all about, its is rly TL;DR but if this hussle is stil about the ** you can buy for Incarna then i dont get it.... Stop whining about the exspensive **, if its to exspensive then DONT buy it, its as simple as that. I would like to see ppl go to the BMW factories and protest because the car is to exspensive, and ask them to lower the price because they wanne drive an BMW. But offcourse i can be totaly wrong, and this is not about the boots and all the other dress up stuffzzz..... thing is BMW wont charge you to enter there factory and then hope you allso will buy there car and then charge you extra for the steering wheel once you actually buy it. That's what Ferrari does, Ferrari CCP isn't
Arvir Aris	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:56:00 - [12222] Originally by: Askerius Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Wait! We're still not done with this whole WMD in Iraq thing. I may have to point out what the difference is between a weapon of mass destruction and a mass casualty weapon. Are u truly believe in this? Iraq is just the matter of OIL! Non less! And government are hiding its intension's saying something stupid like "it's for the peace in the world" they do not have right to invade to Iraq!
Vandrion Gallente The Collective B O R G	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:58:00 - [12223] Originally by: Constantinus Maximus Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 17:51:55 Originally by: Vandrion You don't see what I did there, do you?? Do now :-P I would have expected that wording though, on all devblogs, to show how "cool" they are. Keep letting CCP know how you feel!
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:58:00 - [12224] Guys, I don't think our Incarna patch was as well accepted as we anticipated.
Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:00:00 - [12225] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte Originally by: Jarnobi Offcourse they made a game to make money....dont be so naief....also i prolly dont know whats this whining is all about, its is rly TL;DR but if this hussle is stil about the ** you can buy for Incarna then i dont get it.... Stop whining about the exspensive **, if its to exspensive then DONT buy it, its as simple as that. I would like to see ppl go to the BMW factories and protest because the car is to exspensive, and ask them to lower the price because they wanne drive an BMW. But offcourse i can be totaly wrong, and this is not about the boots and all the other dress up stuffzzz..... thing is BMW wont charge you to enter there factory and then hope you allso will buy there car and then charge you extra for the steering wheel once you actually buy it. That's what Ferrari does, Ferrari CCP isn't Actually all car companies, from Ford to Ferrari, charge you a set fee for their base model. If you want frilly extra's, there is an extra charge. But please, lets continue with the crappy analogies. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Lucilia Mercapone	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:01:00 - [12226] Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte Originally by: Jarnobi Offcourse they made a game to make money....dont be so naief....also i prolly dont know whats this whining is all about, its is rly TL;DR but if this hussle is stil about the ** you can buy for Incarna then i dont get it.... Stop whining about the exspensive **, if its to exspensive then DONT buy it, its as simple as that. I would like to see ppl go to the BMW factories and protest because the car is to exspensive, and ask them to lower the price because they wanne drive an BMW. But offcourse i can be totaly wrong, and this is not about the boots and all the other dress up stuffzzz..... thing is BMW wont charge you to enter there factory and then hope you allso will buy there car and then charge you extra for the steering wheel once you actually buy it. More like you buy that car full price, you have to park it in a company parking lot. You have to pay monthly rent for that parking lot. And if you no longer want to pay said rent, they get your car and you get nothing. Oh and they have EULAs so they can kick you out of that parking lot for many reasons and still keep that car.
Azelor Delaria Caldari Nova Ardour	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:01:00 - [12227] Vote of No Confidence Support for a vote of no confidence in Hilmar's ability to lead is waning, as is documented by this very thread. Since there has been no actual petition done, I have created a draft for one, and depending on the amount of support it receives I will be willing to write up a formal referendum, to be used by the CSM at the "meeting" at their discretion. *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:03:00 - [12228] I guess those financial liabilities (PLEX) arn't flowing off those balance sheets right now, even less now since people are not using them as game time. PLEX, a good indicator of "interest in Eve". Market tanking, volumes down.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:05:00 - [12229] Originally by: Azelor Delaria Vote of No Confidence Support for a vote of no confidence in Hilmar's ability to lead is waning, as is documented by this very thread. Since there has been no actual petition done, I have created a draft for one, and depending on the amount of support it receives I will be willing to write up a formal referendum, to be used by the CSM at the "meeting" at their discretion. I get to play secretary! Answers phone -Azelor Delaria's office. -I'm sorry, Mr. Delaria can't see any reporters today as he's writing up a formal referendum. -I don't care if you found Himlar dressed up like batman hanging from the showerhead...
Henry Haphorn Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:05:00 - [12230] Jesus Christ! I am not going to read 400+ pages of rants just to get an understanding of what's going on in this thread.

lateralvelocity	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:06:00 - [12231] Some of the worst posting I have eve seen LoL. "OH, no WOD is ccp's new favorite we are being abused" sound like the 5 yr old when the new baby comes home. Until CCP does put something in the cash shop that is game changing i don't care. I would like to see a ccp post or something, but i have grown accustomed to them clamming up in ****storms. Sad because open discussion on cash shop items, with the players is what is needed.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:06:00 - [12232] Edited by: Miilla on 27/06/2011 18:07:13 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Originally by: Azelor Delaria Vote of No Confidence Support for a vote of no confidence in Hilmar's ability to lead is waning, as is documented by this very thread. Since there has been no actual petition done, I have created a draft for one, and depending on the amount of support it receives I will be willing to write up a formal referendum, to be used by the CSM at the "meeting" at their discretion. I get to play secretary! Answers phone -Azelor Delaria's office. -I'm sorry, Mr. Delaria can't see any reporters today as he's writing up a formal referendum. -I don't care if you found Himlar dressed up like batman hanging from the showerhead... When is CCP's AGM (Annual General Meeting), employees (stock shareholders most likely) too and get a proxyvote to whom to select to the board. Do not waste that vote. Do not click "go with the board recommendations" lol, do not vote them on the board. Get the message through, also, pose questions as a shareholder, they have to answer them, even in the proxy vote they have to answer them and/or at the AGM.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:06:00 - [12233] Originally by: Azelor Delaria Vote of No Confidence Support for a vote of no confidence in Hilmar's ability to lead is waning, as is documented by this very thread. Since there has been no actual petition done, I have created a draft for one, and depending on the amount of support it receives I will be willing to write up a formal referendum, to be used by the CSM at the "meeting" at their discretion. It's not Hilmars fault. Sure he is too easy going to stand up to that. So is Chunk Norris I'm sorry to say. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:07:00 - [12234] Originally by: Miilla I guess those financial liabilities (PLEX) arn't flowing off those balance sheets right now, even less now since people are not using them as game time. PLEX, a good indicator of "interest in Eve". Market tanking, volumes down. PLEX isn't a great indicator. We all saw a few weeks ago the moral suasion used to sell them. They can just as easily do ads to show off how cheap they are to the sheeple who never visit the forums and are unaware of what is going on. Besides, there is always another human disaster waiting around the corner for an opportunistic use of PLEX for good. Cynical? At this point, you bet'cha. My faith in CCP will return SoonV We'll watch what you do not what you say.
Azelor Delaria Caldari Nova Ardour	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:07:00 - [12235] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Originally by: Azelor Delaria Vote of No Confidence Support for a vote of no confidence in Hilmar's ability to lead is waning, as is documented by this very thread. Since there has been no actual petition done, I have created a draft for one, and depending on the amount of support it receives I will be willing to write up a formal referendum, to be used by the CSM at the "meeting" at their discretion. I get to play secretary! Answers phone -Azelor Delaria's office. -I'm sorry, Mr. Delaria can't see any reporters today as he's writing up a formal referendum. -I don't care if you found Himlar dressed up like batman hanging from the showerhead... I miss seeing you guys from my time in FW. :( *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:08:00 - [12236] Originally by: lateralvelocity Until CCP does put something in the cash shop that is game changing i don't care. Just...... lol. Why is the CSM going to Iceland if there isn't either a plan to change or a story to sell? Welcome to yesterday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:08:00 - [12237] Edited by: Miilla on 27/06/2011 18:12:28 Originally by: Adunh Slavy Originally by: Miilla I guess those financial liabilities (PLEX) arn't flowing off those balance sheets right now, even less now since people are not using them as game time. PLEX, a good indicator of "interest in Eve". Market tanking, volumes down. PLEX isn't a great indicator. We all saw a few weeks ago the moral suasion used to sell them. They can just as easily do ads to show off how cheap they are to the sheeple who never visit the forums and are unaware of what is going on. Besides, there is always another human disaster waiting around the corner for an opportunistic use of PLEX for good. Cynical? At this point, you bet'cha. I never said great, but its probably only the good indicator we have. PLEX rose in anticipation for Incarna, now its tanking hard. That shows NO CONFIDENCE/LACK OF INTEREST. On top of that, a lot of ships and other assets have been dumped onto the market en masses.
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:09:00 - [12238] Originally by: lateralvelocity Until CCP does put something in the cash shop that is game changing i don't care. Well take it from us, we hope you never have to care. That's what this is all about. We're doing it for you and everyone else. My faith in CCP will return SoonV We'll watch what you do not what you say.
Vandrion Gallente The Collective B O R G	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:12:00 - [12239] Originally by: Henry Haphorn Jesus Christ! I am not going to read 400+ pages of rants just to get an understanding of what's going on in this thread. Ok to summarize this is what CCP said via a leaked newsletter... MT for all and if you don't like it: and then there was Hilmar's leaked email that said don't listen to the players and Incarna was awesome.. Which really meant: and then we players did 400 pages of this:
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:13:00 - [12240] Originally by: Miilla I never said great, but its probably only the good indicator we have. PLEX rose in anticipation for Incarna, now its tanking hard. That shows NO CONFIDENCE/LACK OF INTEREST. Yes I think in the short term it indicates a few things. Just not a metric that can be weighed too heavily. Give it enough weight and the fanboys will think it has value as well. Knowing markets, sooner or later it will turn in ISK terms, and the fanboys will jump all over it. It's not a reliable metric for either camp. New GTC spawned PLEX added to the market, over the long term, would be. Numbers CCP doesn't hand out very often. My faith in CCP will return SoonV We'll watch what you do not what you say.



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