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Rumbunctious McGrog
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Posted - 2011.06.25 00:16:00 -
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Out of curiosity, I notice a LOT of EVE players seem to have multiple accounts which they run simultaneously (I actually know a bloke in "real life" who owns three PC's, all running EVE) ... Is it possible to succeed in EVE with only one account?
Note there is nothing STOPPING me from using multiple accounts, I have a very fast PC and I could afford it if it netted real gains, but is a second account worth the ~500 million ISK in subscription costs every month? Can a second account generate that much ISK on its own?
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Posted - 2011.06.25 00:26:00 -
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An EVE account can certainly generate that much ISK per month, but it depends on what you do with it.
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Abram Thrust
Garneau Tactical Solutions
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Posted - 2011.06.25 00:40:00 -
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as someone who's done it for just about 2 years, it's entirely do-able to run just a single account. but you really want to make a point of joining a good corp or at least finding some good friends, as (by design I'm sure) there is lots in eve that just doesn't work well solo.
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SamSlick
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Posted - 2011.06.25 01:05:00 -
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I know of one player who has 33 toons as he calls them some mining continually just so he can afford the plex to pay for them. At the end of the day his justification for those accounts is that you cant really trust any one in eve and you need to do it to not get ripped off all the time. This I believe is due to CCP allowing players to be dishonest as it benefits them to set us all against each other.
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Nak hak
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Posted - 2011.06.25 01:20:00 -
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No viability of playing EVE with a single account. If you can afford it buy a PLEX and sell for in game isk. Can't afford PLEX, then run mission for the isk. I have only sold one PLEX for isk. Now, I can run a few missions for all the isk I need to PvP.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.25 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Rumbunctious McGrog Out of curiosity, I notice a LOT of EVE players seem to have multiple accounts which they run simultaneously
Who do you think is more likely to have more than one account, people that stick online close to a second job's worth, or those that rack in 20-ish hours of gameplay per month tops ? And those that stick online longer surround themselves with people that do the same, so overall, when you meet one of them, you end up meeting a host of them. OF COURSE it looks like a lot of people have multiple accounts, but the reality is, only about a quarter of the players have more than one, and only a tiny percentage have more than two.
Having multiple accounts can be convenient for a lot of reasons, but it certainly is not a "must have". A second account can easily generate more than one PLEX's worth of ISK per month, but it depends on how much time you're willing to invest into achieving that particular goal, and on your chosen activity.
I, for instance, using a SINGLE account, for the past two years have managed to get an average profit in the DOUBLE DIGIT BILLIONS of ISK per month, and all of it with very little actual time spent online. Granted, I am much more of an exception rather than the rule, but the point is, single-accounting is quite viable, if you know what you're doing. _
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Eru GoEller
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Posted - 2011.06.25 07:31:00 -
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If that second account can do 10-15 hours of Incursions for a whole month it should be fine. Given that incursions are not to be nerfed anytime soon.
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jx3p
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Posted - 2011.06.25 14:08:00 -
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Unless you very rarely play then funding a 2nd account with PLEX really isn't that difficult, and once you do the extra income from the 2nd account will make next month's fee's much easier.
I only just made a 2nd account for myself a few days ago actually and right now is serving as my mission salvager so that i can gain max ISK from the missions i run, in just a couple of days of moderate missioning my salvager alt has almost reimbursed the cost of his PLEX from salvage/loot ISK alone. In the meantime I'm training him up to be proficient at scanning for wormholes and other exploration stuff leaving my main to focus on a more specialized skill path.
I would say it's definitely worth the ISK to get a 2nd account up and running, if you put it to good use you will make the ISK back in no time.
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Cire XIII
Caldari Ever Flow Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Abram Thrust as someone who's done it for just about 2 years, it's entirely do-able to run just a single account. but you really want to make a point of joining a good corp or at least finding some good friends, as (by design I'm sure) there is lots in eve that just doesn't work well solo.
This was also my experience. About 2 years of a single account before I used my increased earnings to fund an additional account. ------------------------------------------------
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Salpad
Caldari Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2011.06.25 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: SamSlick I know of one player who has 33 toons as he calls them some mining continually just so he can afford the plex to pay for them. At the end of the day his justification for those accounts is that you cant really trust any one in eve and you need to do it to not get ripped off all the time. This I believe is due to CCP allowing players to be dishonest as it benefits them to set us all against each other.
I once lent a Freighter to one of the members of my corp (I also bought the Caldari Freighter skill book and gave it to him, asked him to train it to 3), so he could help me move a lot of heavy stuff, many times, over the course of a couple of months. At the end of that project, he gave it back to me.
I had expected to get it back, but I hadn't been 100% certain.
But the bottom line is, not everyone in New Eden is a dishonourable *******. -- Salpad |
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Salpad
Caldari Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2011.06.25 14:37:00 -
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There's a lot of things in EVE that one ship can't do well, but the second ship doesn't have to be controlled by you, if you can find one or more players to cooperate with. Maybe form a consistent, coherent, formal group of some kind. Maybe even call it a cooperation? Or a corporation?
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Lisa Eldridge
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:21:00 -
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Yes, it is certainly viable. I have played this game for years before I got a 2nd account which happened to be just a few short months ago. You can do everything off of one character and with an optional Jita-alt which doesn't require any training. I think the most frustrating thing when you don't have more than one account is that due to training times, you won't be able to explore other things beyond what you're currently training unless you put it off for a long while.
Having a 2nd account is nice because you can have that other character you wanted and you can do anything you want with. Keeping the subscription active can also be a challenge depending on what you do. I personally pay for my main account and then plex this one so I'm not paying extra $$$ a month and I've made enough ISK in-game that I can support all my character's activities.
Hope this helps.
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Disastro
Wrecking Shots Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:22:00 -
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Alot of people in eve have a second or third account for specific purposes that their main character either cant do well or that they dont want to train that main character for. Examples:
1. Freighter Alt 2. Jump Freighter Alt 3. Mining/missioning/ratting alt 4. PVP alt 5. Planetary interaction alt 6. Pos gunner alt 7. Pos manager alt
whatever. Depends on what you normally do in eve. But often folks want specifically trained character to use when they arent doing their normal thing in eve.
If you can do it all just fine with your main then there isnt much need for another.
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:54:00 -
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For most of my career I had just one account. For a while I had a second account (this was after I had played for 2+ years) to do some industrial stuff which my main couldn't handle (due to limited slots).
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Quinc4623
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Posted - 2011.06.26 08:43:00 -
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Of course you can play EVE and earn serious ISK with a single account. It's just that generally for any active form of income, you ISK/hr is going to be proportional to the number of characters you have out there doing stuff. However besides mining, I would imagine diminishing returns for each extra toon you try to run at the same time, due to split attention. Mining however requires less attention, and if one toon has an Orca, that it can work pretty well.
Of course each account is actually 3 characters. It of course takes double or triple the training time, but you could give certain skills to two or all three character slots, and thus have that many more Planets or Industry slots working for you at once. I mention those since they are forms of income you don't have to be logged in for. Though of course there's no point in training up multiple miners or missioners on the same account, but it works well for industry or research or PI characters. Though multiple accounts means it takes less time of course, but might not be worth it just to have two PI characters, or two industry.
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Helena Ashcroft
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Posted - 2011.06.26 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Disastro Alot of people in eve have a second or third account for specific purposes that their main character either cant do well or that they dont want to train that main character for. Examples:
1. Freighter Alt 2. Jump Freighter Alt 3. Mining/missioning/ratting alt 4. PVP alt 5. Planetary interaction alt 6. Pos gunner alt 7. Pos manager alt
whatever. Depends on what you normally do in eve. But often folks want specifically trained character to use when they arent doing their normal thing in eve.
If you can do it all just fine with your main then there isnt much need for another.
I've always found the #1 use of my alts are scouting/scanning and otherwise training things my main just cannot properly use while flying fun pew pew spaceships. Hauling would be a close second of-course. PvP and PvE are interchangable, unless you do them in far-flung locations. Sec status is tough to grind on a regular basis though.
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FireFoxx80
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.06.26 18:25:00 -
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Running a single account is fine, in fact I did it for my first year of Eve.
However, once you start specialising, and particularly if you join a corp/go to 0.0 and start to PvP, having an alt starts to become desirable. You have a specialised, neutral, second pilot who can go safely into empire.
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:48:00 -
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Yes you can successfully play with one account.
Don't be fooled by the forum posters that have an average of over 3 accounts, it's not really representative for the population (although a lot of people I know in-game have or had two or more accounts). A lot of people play with 1 account and are perfectly happy with it.
The thing in EVE is that you¦ll have to make choices, with a full skillpool worth 22+ years of training you can¦t possibly do everything within a reasonable timeframe. That¦s one of the reasons a lot of players (myself included) have more than one account. For example: if you want to do production and invention and related activities (not even including mining) and be good and efficient and versatile at that, you already have a longer than a year skillqueue ahead of you.
Next to that, in some cases it's very convenient to have an alt. Capitals can't really travel without help of a cyno alt so you're either ALWAYS dependent on a friend to be ßnd available ßnd in the neighbourhood or you do it yourself. In wars people use alts to scout or as neutral reppers and spies. If you're a lowsec PvPer that lost too much standings you'd want an alt that can carry stuff from highsec tradehubs. It's all sooo very convenient ...
Originally by: Disastro Alot of people in eve have a second or third account for specific purposes that their main character either cant do well or that they dont want to train that main character for. Examples:
1. Freighter Alt 2. Jump Freighter Alt 3. Mining/missioning/ratting alt 4. PVP alt 5. Planetary interaction alt 6. Pos gunner alt 7. Pos manager alt
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Minta Contha
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Posted - 2011.06.27 02:05:00 -
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I only have one account, sort of as a point of principle. Eve is a sandbox, which means you have to set your own goals, and one of my goals is to see how well I can do with just one account and the three characters allowed within it. My main character is constantly skill training and the other two are unskilled, and in different corporations to enable me to use them as scouts in the event of war decs etc. My corp are an extremely helpful and very team orientated bunch, and if I didn't have that I could not do half the things I do in the game. At its higher levels, Eve REQUIRES characters to operate in a team, as the ships get more and more specialised... logistics, black ops, electronic attack ships - all useless without a fleet to fly with, whether its controlled by you or other players. I have no intention of using real cash or PLEX to fund another account as for me, making it work as a solo pilot is part of the fun. One of the things I see a lot in my corp is one character trained for industry, one for fighting etc... as a result there's a lot of "oh hang on, let me log my other account" because the characters are maybe too specialised in their training. If you are prepared to wait a little longer to acquire skills, that ceases to be a problem.
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Rumbunctious McGrog
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Posted - 2011.06.27 03:39:00 -
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Thanks for all the replies guys. Good to know I don't have to front $50,000 / month in subs to succeed in EVE.
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.06.27 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Minta Contha If you are prepared to wait a little longer to acquire skills, that ceases to be a problem.
Yes in EVE it may take just a few years extra to be more versatile. Some people don't find it a big problem. |
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