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Bayushi Tamago
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:51:00 -
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I think it would be interesting to have a glimpse into the discussion of the events etc of the past week seeing as we are all paying customers. Transparency is something CCP needs to do to regain some of the lost trust.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:52:00 -
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/signed!
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ We'll watch what you do not what you say.
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Sceta
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:53:00 -
[33]
Signed _____________________ <The UFF movement>
Want to know more? |
Anna Grahm
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:59:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh We don't trust you CCP
Speak for yourself.
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Fire Watch
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:04:00 -
[35]
Erm... the CSM does not represent the community.
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Peter Greed
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Anna Grahm
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh We don't trust you CCP
Speak for yourself.
He can speak for me.
Therefore, "we" is the correct usage, and "you" can tell "us" why "they" deserve that trust.
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Markus Jome
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:09:00 -
[37]
+
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BolsterBomb
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:10:00 -
[38]
broadcast live solves the problem
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:10:00 -
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I want the CSM to get off the plane and go to some terrible dive bar and get trashed, and live stream eating whale steaks.
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SilentSkills
Gallente Tax Evaders Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:11:00 -
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would be nice The Monocle Definition The Epic Door Thread http://im |
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn I want the CSM to get off the plane and go to some terrible dive bar and get trashed, and live stream eating whale steaks.
I also want them to do this while drinking imported cases of terrible American beer (like Steel Reserve or Natty ice), and all of them wearing real-life monocles. I will personally pay for the monocles if the CSMs are poor, but I know that mittens isn't so he should be good for his own monocle.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nuhm DeAra
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
I don't trust you CCP and the CSM meeting is your last chance.
I wish you guys would stop speaking for everyone, because the amount of players logged in probably disagree with you.
Because people shouldn't use the services they payed for? ... Return the Old Hangar Back... for Immersion.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:19:00 -
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ok reality check time
anything they tell the CSMs in public will be things that they want or feel safe releasing to the public.
thats happening now
anything they dont want to tell the CSMs. . . they bloody will not tell the CSMs unless they have a binding nda.
end of story.
saying make them live will not realy change that, they will just not tell the csms anything they dont want made public.
and thus reduce the level of feedback .End of line.
If your too paranoid to play EvE. . . ...then your not paranoid enough to play EvE ----------------
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Nikita Alterana
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:20:00 -
[44]
meetings should definitely be made public. At this phase, transparency is utterly paramount.
Nikita's Graphic Arts Studio
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Vector Aeon
Ghosts of Ragnarok Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:20:00 -
[45]
I don't really care about the NDA and the CSM meeting, but I do have a monocle.
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:21:00 -
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And..
have everyone on their underwear.
NO PANTS! ____________
Originally by: CCP Guard Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Thomas ok reality check time
anything they tell the CSMs in public will be things that they want or feel safe releasing to the public.
thats happening now
anything they dont want to tell the CSMs. . . they bloody will not tell the CSMs unless they have a binding nda.
end of story.
saying make them live will not realy change that, they will just not tell the csms anything they dont want made public.
and thus reduce the level of feedback
Have you ever considered that CCP is not in a position to dictate anything anymore?
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ITTigerClawIK
Amarr Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:25:00 -
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the fact that you feel the need of a CSM meeting to get this resolved somewhat means that there is stuff that you are attemting to hide again with the whole NDA the CSM is under and the fact that you seem more inclined to address them rather than everyone else that this really concerns, either this whole meeting is made open for public via EVE-TV or you make a transcript ( a FULL one) or this is just gunna put more fuel on the fire
Sig space reclaimed in the name of me -courtesy of Tiggy ([email protected]) |
Aessaya
Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: Aessaya on 26/06/2011 20:25:44 Well, tbh, CCP brought all of this "speculation" about the leaked documents on themselves. If they just went public straight after the docs were leaked, it would cause much less damage than it caused now. You know what happens if a fire is left unattended.
And yes, maximum publicity for this CSM meting, please. Its the CSM who are bound by the NDA, but if info is coming directly from CCP (or CCP-approved media) then it is not an NDA breech.
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
Originally by: Steve Thomas ok reality check time
anything they tell the CSMs in public will be things that they want or feel safe releasing to the public.
thats happening now
anything they dont want to tell the CSMs. . . they bloody will not tell the CSMs unless they have a binding nda.
end of story.
saying make them live will not realy change that, they will just not tell the csms anything they dont want made public.
and thus reduce the level of feedback
Have you ever considered that CCP is not in a position to dictate anything anymore?
Have considered that it is actually you who is in no position to dictate anything?
With a few keystrokes, CCP can make you disappear forever. Can you do the same to them?
Mr Epeen
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Kalaarac
Le Souffle D'Erevos
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:26:00 -
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/agree
I don't know if it's acceptable/possible to dream about live stream or such. But yes revoke the nda would be a necessary action to give a chance to ccp to regain our trust.
i trust csm members to report through different channels(radio, report, etc ...) wht will be said and decided.
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Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries R-I-P
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:28:00 -
[52]
Exactly as per the AT, screen it live to everyone.
Signed
CCP: Consistency since 2003 |
Noriko Meigetsu
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:29:00 -
[53]
Yup, totally agree to that.
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XIRUSPHERE
Gallente The 8th Order Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:36:00 -
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The only reason they would want an NDA is if they have something to hide at this point, full transparency is the only option.
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Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:39:00 -
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/signed, and would totally buy a monocle if this were to happen.
Don't think it will though.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:40:00 -
[56]
Supported. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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P0le Dancer
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
Originally by: Steve Thomas ok reality check time
anything they tell the CSMs in public will be things that they want or feel safe releasing to the public.
thats happening now
anything they dont want to tell the CSMs. . . they bloody will not tell the CSMs unless they have a binding nda.
end of story.
saying make them live will not realy change that, they will just not tell the csms anything they dont want made public.
and thus reduce the level of feedback
Have you ever considered that CCP is not in a position to dictate anything anymore?
Have considered that it is actually you who is in no position to dictate anything?
With a few keystrokes, CCP can make you disappear forever. Can you do the same to them?
Mr Epeen
Your stupidity is staggering. To suggest that ccp is going to delete thousands of accounts just because those paying customers disagree with the corporate direction is naive at best. Conversely, those thousands of accounts can simply quit and deny ccp the revenue they crave, can they do the same to us? I'll still have a job and you'll still live in your moms basement, so no, they can't dictate ****.
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: P0le Dancer
Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
Originally by: Steve Thomas ok reality check time
anything they tell the CSMs in public will be things that they want or feel safe releasing to the public.
thats happening now
anything they dont want to tell the CSMs. . . they bloody will not tell the CSMs unless they have a binding nda.
end of story.
saying make them live will not realy change that, they will just not tell the csms anything they dont want made public.
and thus reduce the level of feedback
Have you ever considered that CCP is not in a position to dictate anything anymore?
Have considered that it is actually you who is in no position to dictate anything?
With a few keystrokes, CCP can make you disappear forever. Can you do the same to them?
Mr Epeen
Your stupidity is staggering. To suggest that ccp is going to delete thousands of accounts just because those paying customers disagree with the corporate direction is naive at best. Conversely, those thousands of accounts can simply quit and deny ccp the revenue they crave, can they do the same to us? I'll still have a job and you'll still live in your moms basement, so no, they can't dictate ****.
qft
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Ded Moroz
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:51:00 -
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while the idea is great, it might actually hinder negotiations. NDAs are there for a reason, main being protection of the company, mainly from competition.
It would be completely impossible to have these negotiations be public, because inevitably some ideas that CCP might use for competitive advantage in the industry would become public. Having this much information out in public could be very bad also, because we all know how information can be used out of context by malicious parties.
Now a live discussion with CSM/DEVs after negotiations are complete on something like eve radio or IRC chan would be absolutely great.
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Jayem See
Caldari Extreme Freedom Corcoran State
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:51:00 -
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+1 Get it out live and lets hear the nitty-gritty truth. We're not idiots so don't treat us as such. Time for a bit of face-saving. Whatever - Not Interested TBH |
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