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Headerman
Minmatar Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.28 05:40:00 -
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I would buy...
... any and all 'Design a ship' competition winners and runner ups if they were sold in the N E store as real flyable ships in game.
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.28 05:41:00 -
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I might buy a monocle if it were one tenth the ****ing price
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Dark Reignz
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Posted - 2011.06.28 05:55:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Reignz on 28/06/2011 05:57:55 We don't need to tank the deficit for them. 59m a year turnover and 16m on Research & Development plus w/e else for marketing WTF.... they just need to manage there own costs! to keep a float.
What have the shareholders made in dividends and are they willing to contribute funds back into the company to counter any deficit, re-invest so to speak. This will partly come from them not accepting dividends in 2011.
I work for a ú650m turnover company that is operating in the red. Rather than put the burden on the customers they are working hard to fix the situation inside out with restructure and cost cutting while maintaining affordable yet competetive prices and also keeping high levels of service standards, while also offering new services.
Now this is where lowering the prices of MT system could play into ours and CCP's favour. I know for a fact that if they drop the rediculous prices and offer more items sooner at realistic prices then more people will buy the items and monies made will start to add up to more worthy sums of income. Pennies make pounds as they say and if you target the rich only you are putting a cap on your potential revenue gains.
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Kez Aumer
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Posted - 2011.06.28 06:10:00 -
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Nothing. RL products, perhaps, but never any MT stuff while we still pay sub.
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Ranita Drell
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Posted - 2011.06.28 06:10:00 -
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Mara Rinn covered a lot of the clothing styles I would like to see introduced. I'd like to see some Indian style fashions and accessories. Saris, cholis, etc.
The way I see it my character would wear three types of clothing:
1) A pod-suit. It should have a latex or synthetic looking texture but doesn't have to look like bondage gear. Something with lots of pockets, compartments, with little metal tools and gizmos hanging off the belt and such.
2) Casual wear. Most of the currently available clothes fits into this, most boring category.
3) Formal/fancy wear. Dresses and dress uniforms, jewelery.
In terms of pricing, I wouldn't pay more than $5 for a complete outfit. I'd pay maybe $2 for a cosmetically different ship, assuming the paint job dies with the ship. Maybe if I completely fell in love with a paint job for a PvE ship I'd pay more than that, if such ships weren't getting ganked like crazy.
Of course options to make our ships look good would be nice, but just as vanity avatar items will sell better when there is avatar-to-avatar interaction, ship vanity stuff will sell better if other players have more opportunities to view your ship in all its glory.
So one thing I think CCP should really work on is an update to the interface that enables a window that shows a zoomed-in view of your current active target in space (with overlays that include tactical information on that target, of the sort that can currently be enabled in the overview). EVE is the Internet spaceship game where you hardly ever get to see any spaceships while you're actually doing stuff in space ... fixing that problem would increase vanity MT sales and subscription rates both.
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Arias Dren
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Posted - 2011.06.28 06:13:00 -
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Edited by: Arias Dren on 28/06/2011 06:13:35
Originally by: Kez Aumer Nothing. RL products, perhaps, but never any MT stuff while we still pay sub.
It's like you're in my head, thinking my thoughts for me. Thanks dude... i'm lazy.
PS: Totally agree.
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52 MonocIes
52 Monocles
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Posted - 2011.06.28 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Reignz Edited by: Dark Reignz on 28/06/2011 05:57:55 We don't need to tank the deficit for them. 59m a year turnover and 16m on Research & Development plus w/e else for marketing WTF.... they just need to manage there own costs! to keep a float.
What have the shareholders made in dividends and are they willing to contribute funds back into the company to counter any deficit, re-invest so to speak. This will partly come from them not accepting dividends in 2011.
I work for a ú650m turnover company that is operating in the red. Rather than put the burden on the customers they are working hard to fix the situation inside out with restructure and cost cutting while maintaining affordable yet competetive prices and also keeping high levels of service standards, while also offering new services.
Now this is where lowering the prices of MT system could play into ours and CCP's favour. I know for a fact that if they drop the rediculous prices and offer more items sooner at realistic prices then more people will buy the items and monies made will start to add up to more worthy sums of income. Pennies make pounds as they say and if you target the rich only you are putting a cap on your potential revenue gains.
Valueable input, and that is all true. I'd be buying rifter paints by dozens every day I log on, if they were few mil isk a pop. Or a dollar.
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52 MonocIes
52 Monocles
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Posted - 2011.06.28 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ranita Drell
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Of course options to make our ships look good would be nice, but just as vanity avatar items will sell better when there is avatar-to-avatar interaction, ship vanity stuff will sell better if other players have more opportunities to view your ship in all its glory.
So one thing I think CCP should really work on is an update to the interface that enables a window that shows a zoomed-in view of your current active target in space (with overlays that include tactical information on that target, of the sort that can currently be enabled in the overview). EVE is the Internet spaceship game where you hardly ever get to see any spaceships while you're actually doing stuff in space ... fixing that problem would increase vanity MT sales and subscription rates both.
Awesome suggestion, a Picture-in-Picture window rendering the close-up of the ship,so we can actually see, that this rifter at 80km we're so desperatelly trying to catch up to with our MWD before it aligns out has a white hello kitty paintjob on it with bright-green engine trails. Makes paintjobs more visible, therefore more meaningfull, therefore worth more. -- I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Threadnaughts on fire off the shoulder of Orion... |
Decalfi
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Posted - 2011.06.28 06:25:00 -
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As long as the picture in picture is an optional thing and the window is moveable, that would be sweet. Maybe make it not just your target, but any ship that's in the range where you can hit the eyeball button and zoom the camera to it, have it be able to be viewed picture-in-picture, and have the picture in picture window just display your active target by default or something. |
AdmiralJohn
Gallente Origin of Sanshaa
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Posted - 2011.06.28 06:28:00 -
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If you really want to help, buy a load of PLEXes and trash them.
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Akrosi
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Posted - 2011.06.28 06:30:00 -
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Im not going to pay to bail out CCP. They can dump DUST.
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Litia Cours
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Posted - 2011.06.28 06:43:00 -
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I would certainly consider buying ship skins. WiS crap is all well and good, but we play this game to fly internet space ships! If I could apply funky skins to my ships, I'd spend a LITTLE on that for each ship.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.06.28 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ranita Drell 1) A pod-suit. It should have a latex or synthetic looking texture but doesn't have to look like bondage gear. Something with lots of pockets, compartments, with little metal tools and gizmos hanging off the belt and such.
I'd suggest something more like the "underwear" from the tutorial mission in Global Agenda. We're supposed to be immersed in goo, after all :)
Quote: In terms of pricing, I wouldn't pay more than $5 for a complete outfit. I'd pay maybe $2 for a cosmetically different ship, assuming the paint job dies with the ship.
Whereas I'm coming from the opposite direction: I'd pay hundreds of millions of ISK for a decent costume. I don't care how that translates to dollars, since I'm not the person forking over the cash. A weekend's worth of mission running for a Balinese Dancer costume? Count me in! Of course, we'd then have to address the issue of any of these tight-fitting clothes making our fat arses look fat.
I agree with you about the "consumable" aspect of ship paint jobs though. Paint jobs should cost far less than clothing, since we'll only be using them temporarily. I'd pay about half as much for a paint job as the ship itself cost. So paint jobs for frigates would be about 50k ISK, though I guess there would be "premium" paint jobs such as the Hello Kitty and Hot Rod Flames which people would pay much more for (after all, we're about gouging dollars out of people's pockets here).
As for the picture-in-picture idea, the X-Wing series included a screen which displayed a zoom-in view of the current target, pointing in the appropriate direction so you could tell which direction it was travelling.
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Rex Liberium
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:03:00 -
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Would pay top dolla (10 usd) to make Jita 0.0 for a week at a time of my choosing (before my current sub runs out).
But nothing else.
I wont put any more money into eve. All the money went to WOD and DUST anyway.
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Elrica bloodbane
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:06:00 -
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Which bit of NO MT IN EVE did you guys not get?
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Najian
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:12:00 -
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Edited by: Najian on 28/06/2011 07:14:28 I would convert some plex to aurum if it would get me paintjobs, if executed in the right fashion. Use them like rigs. That would work execellent.
Also might buy some cheaper vanity clothing.
And ill buy dust for all my friends that own a ps3 so I can enslave them for EVE purposes.
And obviously ill buy the 'I saved CCP and all I got was this louzy ingame t-shirt' shirt. And a shirt that says: 'these pants are 1000$' with an arrow pointing down to them.
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Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Liberium Would pay top dolla (10 usd) to make Jita 0.0 for a week at a time of my choosing (before my current sub runs out).
But nothing else.
I wont put any more money into eve. All the money went to WOD and DUST anyway.
Ah, that would be tempting to break my moral compass for...
.. but no, if CCP really needed more revenue to provide updated and polished content for its core pvp sandbox elements, I could either pay more or be given some way to buy RL things that they made huge margins on.
Said it in a few other threads , but I'd buy a $100 "i helped bail out CCP" T-shirt if I had some trust that MT would only be vanity items incidental to exisiting play.. not forcing people to go places to notice the efete dandies dressed up in expensive things. Seriiously, I'd pay 50 million isk a month to have the computer voices call me sir.. kinda treat me like C3PO talks to Luke in Star Wars. No one would hear it but me , but I'd enjoy it.
Either that or a Zsa Zsa Gabor .. I dream of Genie thing.... if some people paid $ instead of isk . .. it wouldn't bother me, although the premise of using real $ to get game perks is something I draw a line at.
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Algathas
Minmatar The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:20:00 -
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The financial position they are in is their own stupidity. If they can't figure it out themselves how to fix the issues, then nothing we can do will save them. It will only prolong their inevitable slow and agonizing demise.
They could have enough $ from EVE at the price point we already pay if they did not bite off more than they could chew with the other games. They would have more EVE subscribers if they put more development time into EVE rather than pushing it aside for things that don't make them any income.
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:23:00 -
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If I want to support CCP, I'll resubscribe my second account.
Sorry no deal, I'm not going to take your bait and buy MT items AT ALL (be it vanity or not) just to support a bad business strategy.
All I'm willing to do is show whether I like the original product.
If it gets so bad I don't enjoy it any more, then begone my addiction and good riddance to boot.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:23:00 -
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Ceremonial swords, staff's etc.
Plastic surgery (new face)
Bloodline change? (not sure but I guess that would be ok)
Commerical space for ingame organisations on billboards (not immersion breaking)
Basicly I am open to everything except stuff that would get you an advantage, boosters, skillpoints, remaps, ships.
Now some of those things could be in the shop providing the shop can take both aurum and other items like: SCORP + aurum = paintjob scorp.
NONE of these items should have better stats then the items that are currently produced by the players and in the game on isk level though.
------------------------------------------------- A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
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Cancel Align NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:27:00 -
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They should attempt to get real life products placed in there.
If I could convert my isk to plex and then to aura and then buy pizza with it, I would do so. If I could convert my isk to plex and then to aura and then buy real life clothes with it, I would do so.
I might even be tempted to to convert my isk to plex and the aura and then buy shares in CCP. I really migahahhahahhahah na I wouldn't touch that.
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Iceni
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:28:00 -
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Yeah I'd chip in if CCP did a u-turn re: their approach to this game. But no way am I supporting DUST or WoD development.
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Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: Algathas The financial position they are in is their own stupidity. If they can't figure it out themselves how to fix the issues, then nothing we can do will save them. It will only prolong their inevitable slow and agonizing demise.
They could have enough $ from EVE at the price point we already pay if they did not bite off more than they could chew with the other games. They would have more EVE subscribers if they put more development time into EVE rather than pushing it aside for things that don't make them any income.
100% true...
they can't find the time to even tweak some damage and speed variables to better balance ships but they can create a lagging worthless, cpu demanding avatar locked in a rubber room, that can't smile or dance on demand.. or even blink his eyes once for yes and twice for no..... but he can wear expensive clothing i guess.
if developers know there is need to balance key game items there should always be someone working on that so that with each patch.. not only with new material.. smalll adjustments should be made to experiment witht ways to enhance combat structure
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52 MonocIes
52 Monocles
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Najian Edited by: Najian on 28/06/2011 07:14:28 I would convert some plex to aurum if it would get me paintjobs, if executed in the right fashion. Use them like rigs. That would work execellent.
Also might buy some cheaper vanity clothing.
And ill buy dust for all my friends that own a ps3 so I can enslave them for EVE purposes.
And obviously ill buy the 'I saved CCP and all I got was this louzy ingame t-shirt' shirt. And a shirt that says: 'these pants are 1000$' with an arrow pointing down to them.
Rofl'ed for real, those shirt designs are ingenious. -- I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Threadnaughts on fire off the shoulder of Orion... |
52 MonocIes
52 Monocles
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Diomedes Calypso
Said it in a few other threads , but I'd buy a $100 "i helped bail out CCP" T-shirt if I had some trust that MT would only be vanity items incidental to exisiting play.. not forcing people to go places to notice the efete dandies dressed up in expensive things. Seriiously, I'd pay 50 million isk a month to have the computer voices call me sir.. kinda treat me like C3PO talks to Luke in Star Wars. No one would hear it but me , but I'd enjoy it.
Either that or a Zsa Zsa Gabor .. I dream of Genie thing.... if some people paid $ instead of isk . .. it wouldn't bother me, although the premise of using real $ to get game perks is something I draw a line at.
Awesome. "Docking permission requested, My Lord." "My liege! Docking request accepted."
Exactly those things, FUN factor, something people will rofl about when they hear your game voices or see you flying a hello kitty spaceships. We're in entertaining bussiness here. -- I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Threadnaughts on fire off the shoulder of Orion... |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:43:00 -
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They aren't in cash trouble, not by a long shot.
Anything non-vanity better be insanely expensive. 15K aurum at the absolute minimum ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Neli I
Bulgarian Academy of Science
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:46:00 -
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Well, when you mention it. I would like to bay a real share of CCP company (this is not a game advantage, isn't it). Moreover, this will make them answering to any of my questions and petitions (and not behaive like as**oles).
CAN YOU ARRANGE IT?
+ it will give me back some money in the end of the year. It is how it works?
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52 MonocIes
52 Monocles
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Cancel Align NOW They should attempt to get real life products placed in there.
If I could convert my isk to plex and then to aura and then buy pizza with it, I would do so. If I could convert my isk to plex and then to aura and then buy real life clothes with it, I would do so.
I might even be tempted to to convert my isk to plex and the aura and then buy shares in CCP. I really migahahhahahhahah na I wouldn't touch that.
Thats a cool idea, get RL EvE T-Shirt paid totally within in-game store, with aurum. I suppose they could keep current shirt prices, just replace the virtual ones with real ones, plus 1000aurum delivery. I too would buy that, yeah. -- I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Threadnaughts on fire off the shoulder of Orion... |
Cancel Align NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Neli I Well, when you mention it. I would like to bay a real share of CCP company (this is not a game advantage, isn't it). Moreover, this will make them answering to any of my questions and petitions (and not behaive like as**oles).
CAN YOU ARRANGE IT?
+ it will give me back some money in the end of the year. It is how it works?
No at the end of the year you will get a letter from an Icelandic Judge saying the company has gone insolvent
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Gah'q
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: 52 MonocIes It seems CCP has cash problems and to survive and work on all 3 of the games (EvE, DUST, Emo Online) tries to solve it via sales of in-game advantages, latest research show - most likely boosters (check here).
Now, facing the fact, the CCP has to find a stream of revenue to keep functioning, are you, EvE player, ready to help them out?
The easiest thing to do would be most likely to ditch Emo - Online. But seems like they are already committed and it's too late to deaggress. Aggro timer is at 30s, DPS is coming and tank just wont hold long enough. Will you send your rep-drone (MT $s) to help CCP stand long enough, so the logis (banks/investors) will consider them a viable target to spend reps on? What would it take for you to do it?
Please state what things would you gladly buy in store, and what would be an acceptable price for them?
Lets exclude game-play-advantage-items pls.
Time to stop the rage and give something constructive, something people can work with.
Nothing. I personally have 3 active accounts. I know people that have 6 or more active accounts. From my observations this multiple-accounts-per-person situation is the norm rather than the exception in the EVE community. With this in mind I can't help but wonder what exactly it is that I'm paying for. I'm pretty sure we all have been paying for anything but EVE development for at least the past 2 years. I will most certainly not pump more money into CCP so they can make some crappy console FPS and a ******ed emo MMO where you'll probably have Wrist Slasher as a profession.
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