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Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
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Posted - 2011.06.28 05:18:00 -
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I might have missed something but this is news to me for the first time, saw in the monoclegeddon thread, can anyone confirm this? Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist |
Panda Name
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.28 05:18:00 -
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yep. you won't be able to suicide hulks unless you pay an aurum fee to bribe concord.
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Jak Silverheart
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.28 05:33:00 -
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Yup it was banned in favor of the Monoclegeddon.
I have a list of 12 monocle wearers who I've confirmed owned them, not just some people who say they own it but people who actively wear them. And I am willing to sell them to you for a price, which will get you ahead of the game on this event.
Incarna, giving pilots a single room bachelor pad with a mirror and no beer since 6.21.2011 |
Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
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Posted - 2011.06.28 05:34:00 -
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Edited by: Titas Agor on 28/06/2011 05:35:22 lol.. it wouldn't suprise me if it gets that bad actually, im just really suprised they've banned it, i dont understand why, its pvp, and its a special event to just spice things up a bit, if your a dummy flying a mining ship at that time then it was your own fault as there is notice on the event absolutely everywhere
edit: no no dont need any of that crap, i was just curious if it was actually banned, or just saying that to kill monocle owners instead Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist |
Mister Smithington
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Posted - 2011.06.28 05:36:00 -
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The event itself wasn't banned. It's organizer, Helicity Boson, was.
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Siiee
Recycled Heroes
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Posted - 2011.06.28 05:36:00 -
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They're being silly. Hulkageddon wasn't banned, Helicity Boson was banned, the one who started hulkageddon.
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ZooChase II
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Posted - 2011.06.28 06:52:00 -
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And why was Helicity Boson banned exactly?
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.28 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: ZooChase II And why was Helicity Boson banned exactly?
Apparently went beyond the line between "curse somebody over the internet" and "threaten somebody in real life" with CCP Soundwave, IIRC. CCP Helmar: "this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say". Me: UNSUBBING NOW |
Michelle Devereux
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: ZooChase II And why was Helicity Boson banned exactly?
As I understand it the words "die" "fire" and "too good for you", all in one sentence, might have something to do with it......
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Jean Lechapel
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: ZooChase II And why was Helicity Boson banned exactly?
There's a post somewhere here where he told someone to go die in a fire. There's everything you need to know on his site: http://www.machine9.net/blog/ sorry i dont know how to linky nicey.
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Tyburn Stannis
Caldari Xenon Salvage Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:20:00 -
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Hulkageddon is absolutety NOT Banned. Somebody mention it's organiser was banned in a (deliberately?) badly worded sentence, and the pitchforks and chinese whispers sprang into life the way they do about absolutely everything at the moment.
And the ban was for "die, fire, too good for you" etc... in association with a dev's real name.
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Digital Messiah
Oregami Ultd
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mister Smithington The event itself wasn't banned. It's organizer, Helicity Boson, was.
Quote: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:24:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 28/06/2011 07:24:27
Originally by: ZooChase II And why was Helicity Boson banned exactly?
With an excuse.
You may see tons of people saying each other to DIAF or GTFO 100000 times on the forum with no harm.
Now, tell the same someone to DIAF when the someone is in a position of power and when the same someone has all to gain at removing you. Suddenly, the EULA is enforced and permanently so.
Auditing | Research | 3rd Party | Collateral Holding | EvE RL Charity |
Baillif
AQUILA INC
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:24:00 -
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Telling someone to die in a fire is fine (happens all the time) but telling them dying in a fire is too quick to be considered satisfactory is apparently crossing some sort of line.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Baillif Telling someone to die in a fire is fine (happens all the time) but telling them dying in a fire is too quick to be considered satisfactory is apparently crossing some sort of line.
Oh yes, I could even understand a 90 days ban for this. But permanent, and "because it's a RL treat"? Come on, how realistic is to see someone stating garbage on a forum and then flying to Iceland to put the garbage into practice?
Auditing | Research | 3rd Party | Collateral Holding | EvE RL Charity |
Whiteknight03
Theoretical Research
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:29:00 -
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Whatever happened to Liang?
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Algathas
Minmatar The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:30:00 -
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The ban, coming from the same people that talk about $1000 pants, gold ammo, and "We have no plans".
"[i]We have spais in their base. Our propaganda machine is much larger and stronger than theirs We have better organizational capabilities |
Baillif
AQUILA INC
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Baillif Telling someone to die in a fire is fine (happens all the time) but telling them dying in a fire is too quick to be considered satisfactory is apparently crossing some sort of line.
Oh yes, I could even understand a 90 days ban for this. But permanent, and "because it's a RL treat"? Come on, how realistic is to see someone stating garbage on a forum and then flying to Iceland to put the garbage into practice?
The ban had more to do with residual butthurt from Helicity leaking the newsletter I'm sure.
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Cancel Align NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:33:00 -
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If I said hypothetically to my corp directors, "Guys we should move from Period Basis to Syndicate (lol), but don't tell the membership because they will burn us at the stake" And a corpie found out and said, "Cancel Align NOW, burning on a stake is too good for you" That would be considered a death threat by CCP.
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Jade Cargo
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:33:00 -
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Quite frankly people are waaaay too aggressive, arrogant and flat out rude just because they hide behind the anonymity of the interwebz. It's not hard to be even mildly polite. Moar permabans pls.
Seriously though - if you think this is an acceptable way to converse with a complete stranger, then you may want to reset your opinion of 'acceptable'. I believe the term is 'normalisation of deviance'. It isn't acceptable. Not even close. And let's not try to debate whether it was a 'real life threat' or not. It's just plain wrong.
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Digital Messiah
Oregami Ultd
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Baillif Telling someone to die in a fire is fine (happens all the time) but telling them dying in a fire is too quick to be considered satisfactory is apparently crossing some sort of line.
Oh yes, I could even understand a 90 days ban for this. But permanent, and "because it's a RL treat"? Come on, how realistic is to see someone stating garbage on a forum and then flying to Iceland to put the garbage into practice?
Can we all agree it is not what you know but who you know. I think this applies to the fact that, it is not what you say, but who you say it to? You don't trash talk in actively monitored channels. And you don't **** off the mods... Least we all need reminded of the old counter strike server days.
I have been playing MMO's since EQ was big. And have yet to ever have my account suspended or banned for breaking a eula or trash talking. Watch what you say, or at least who you say it to.
P.S. I have no sympathy for stupidity.
Quote: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Tyburn Stannis
Caldari Xenon Salvage Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:34:00 -
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Because it was directed at somebody's REAL NAME.
Big difference between "all CCP devs should go kill themselves for this fail patch" and "You, John Smith, are going to get a knife in the back if I ever find you"
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Wencher
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:35:00 -
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Totally unwarranted ban.
Helicity was a pillar of the community and was respected by all.
http://pastebin.com/NtRB9bin
I see nothing wrong here. This is totally normal human behaviour when dealing with another person. I speak like this to people all the time and they respect my opinions.
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Baillif
AQUILA INC
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: Whiteknight03 Whatever happened to Liang?
I've been wondering this myself. Liang is back in 14 days though.
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Pherick Sjang
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Cargo Quite frankly people are waaaay too aggressive, arrogant and flat out rude just because they hide behind the anonymity of the interwebz. It's not hard to be even mildly polite. Moar permabans pls.
Seriously though - if you think this is an acceptable way to converse with a complete stranger, then you may want to reset your opinion of 'acceptable'. I believe the term is 'normalisation of deviance'. It isn't acceptable. Not even close. And let's not try to debate whether it was a 'real life threat' or not. It's just plain wrong.
So basically, you're a ***got? - Incarnageddon (now 200% more readable) |
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:37:00 -
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So, not that i'm a voodoo guy, but I read about it once on Wikipedia.... and watched Gillgans Islanda a lot....
so if I curse someone and tell them I have a voodoo doll , is that a real life threat?
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:39:00 -
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Discussing rage bans may get your threads locked, though. Not long and his name will be censored on the forums, too, like another forum member who pointed out CCPs internal problems.
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Wencher Totally unwarranted ban.
Helicity was a pillar of the community and was respected by all.
http://pastebin.com/NtRB9bin
I see nothing wrong here. This is totally normal human behaviour when dealing with another person. I speak like this to people all the time and they respect my opinions.
Wow even if they fix this mess Im prob not going to resub based on that BAN alone.
Really CCP? What is wrong with you.
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Tyburn Stannis
Caldari Xenon Salvage Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Wencher
http://pastebin.com/NtRB9bin
I see nothing wrong here. This is totally normal human behaviour when dealing with another person. I speak like this to people all the time and they respect my opinions.
Because it's not the conversation replying to the ban that got him banned, is it...
For the record I wholeheartedly support Hulkageddon, Monoclegeddon, all-pilot-names-that-start-with-x-ageddon and every single sandbox "wtf" moment in EVE, but no matter how much you put in to the game at the end of the day there is a line, he crossed it, he got banned.
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Baillif
AQUILA INC
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:42:00 -
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Originally by: Smagd Discussing rage bans may get your threads locked, though. Not long and his name will be censored on the forums, too, like another forum member who pointed out CCPs internal problems.
If you ask me he did everyone (including CCP) a favor. The community/CCP relationship has taken a serious dip since around the period of Apocrypha. Remember when we used to let them toot their own horn without heckling them (too badly)? It's past time for a come to Jesus meeting.
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