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Lamparski
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: Lamparski on 28/06/2011 11:36:28 Edited by: Lamparski on 28/06/2011 11:26:35 It might already be settled and theres no going back. Dust 514 will have a one time fee on the Playstation Network, then have microtransactions. Dust 514 players will also be able to join Corps in either Eve Online or Dust 514. The writing is on the wall. link
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edit, so lets say Dust 514 players buy Aur for RL money, wouldnt that mean Eve players would have to pay with Aur. Alliances will have to buy plexs to get aur to pay the mercenaries to defend their planets.
and the most disturbing story
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Vortana
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:18:00 -
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But thats Dust.
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Lamparski
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:19:00 -
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Yes but they have to marry the two games together. Imagine a dust player entering Eve Online, wait I have to grind for my carrier. I was just going to pay for it with rl money just like in dust 514. screw you CCP
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voiddragon
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:20:00 -
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Are you trolling?
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Cash Loki
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:23:00 -
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Edited by: Cash Loki on 28/06/2011 11:23:23 No, im not trolling. Im worried and would like to know what others think of this theory.
woops wrong character.
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Najian
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:24:00 -
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They are calling paying DUST troops and such with isk microtransactions?
Probably the DUST monocle will improve your auto-aiming.
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Vortana
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:24:00 -
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They are two different games, one has a Subscription (Eve) one does not (Dust514) If they want to use MT in Dust to make money from it fine...
Allthough the games are going to be married to each other, they are both very different. And should in no way be compared with each other.
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Lamparski
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:25:00 -
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What are you going to pay them with. Dust 514 has a small cover charge then MT. What are they going to use the isk on if they can just buy better stuff with MT.
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Vortana
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Vortana on 28/06/2011 11:28:19
Originally by: Lamparski What are you going to pay them with. Dust 514 has a small cover charge then MT. What are they going to use the isk on if they can just buy better stuff with MT.
One of the trailer has Prices on weapons and vehicles - The smart thing to assume would be that?
Then have micro transactions for Timed use of premium items or a slightly higher charge to keep the item for ever. (Example of this would be Battlefield heroes)
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Najian
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:29:00 -
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It was sort of my impression Aurum was the MT currency that would be used for Dust. As in... Dust players can buy Aurum directly for $. And they might be able to feed it into the EVE economy, but in order not to **** up the isk based economy there would have to be a big enough Aurum sink. CCP is monitoring your monocles.
/speculation
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Lamparski
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Najian It was sort of my impression Aurum was the MT currency that would be used for Dust. As in... Dust players can buy Aurum directly for $. And they might be able to feed it into the EVE economy, but in order not to **** up the isk based economy there would have to be a big enough Aurum sink. CCP is monitoring your monocles.
/speculation
Nice, this seems like a real possibilty. So lets say Aur has to be in Eve online because its already in Dust 514. Where does this take us. If people can use aur to buy better weapons and vehicles in Dust 514, why not Eve. Again screw you CCP
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Tosser Galore
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:33:00 -
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This is indeed the future of EvE. Dust is about to merge with the eve world.
And the MT "business models" are being field tested in EVE online.
"EvE is real"
"The want you to swipe, swipe that card"
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Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:34:00 -
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Seeing as how DUST hasn't been released yet, I wouldn't worry over it.
Additionally, CCP will keep it's core business, meaning MMO's, safely distinct from console games for a few years yet.
While CCP has great hopes that they are doing something new in the gaming industy (and, yes, they are doing something new) -- they won't risk losing their core product over it.
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"MONOCLE-FREE" and Proud Of It !!!!!
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Starla Beach
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Posted - 2011.06.29 08:26:00 -
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This theory could be quite on the mark. Lets see what comes out of the csm meeting.
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Glyken Touchon
Gallente Independent Alchemists
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Posted - 2011.06.29 08:33:00 -
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If you look at the E3 2011 trailer, prices for the armour/tank/railgun are in ISK, not AUR ______ Tippia's analysis of NEX/Incarna |
Lamparski
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Posted - 2011.06.29 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Glyken Touchon If you look at the E3 2011 trailer, prices for the armour/tank/railgun are in ISK, not AUR
Yes but that is the E3 2011 trailer not the final version. This is just a theory, I hope Im wrong.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2011.06.29 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Glyken Touchon If you look at the E3 2011 trailer, prices for the armour/tank/railgun are in ISK, not AUR
Becuase trailers are like almighty oracles .
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.29 08:55:00 -
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Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 29/06/2011 08:56:06
Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
Becuase trailers are like almighty oracles .
Yep, books and their covers.
As yet there isn't much public information available to draw many conclusions about how P2W in Dust will impact Eve. All we do know for sure is that real world wealth will be injected into Dust. We can assume that ISK is the medium used between the two games. We don't know about Aurum yet in that regard.
We don't know the $cash costs of anything in Dust, we've nothing to guess the prices except the joke prices in the Nex. (Not a good move CCP, doh!) We also do not know about the ISK faucet/sink ratios in Dust, how they work, much less what other rewards of 'loot' they may or may not get in-game.
Will wealth flows to Dust be a net negative for Eve, neutral, positive? We really can not draw any conclusions at this time. It has the potential to be quite negative and cause a deflationary depression, neutral or horribly inflationary and anything in between.
We need moar info, and this rate, considering recent events, I will not be renting lung space to angles.
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ We'll watch what you do not what you say.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.06.29 08:57:00 -
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DUST players will be of the lowest class, I would wager that they won't even have eyepatches.
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Lunar Epoch
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Posted - 2011.06.29 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny DUST players will be of the lowest class, I would wager that they won't even have eyepatches.[/quote
You are so immature it is embarrasing. Grow up!
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Crispin McTarmac
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Posted - 2011.06.29 09:22:00 -
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http://www.dust514.com/en/news/article/1980/beginnings
If you want to speculate on how "virtual goods" will affect dust take a look at this article. the economist at the end doesn't say anything much, but the "imagine this" part mentions several items that sound like they might be real money creations. My guess is either the blueprints are cash shop generated items, or possibly the black ops dropship (notice the ishukone name)
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edith prickley
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Posted - 2011.06.29 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Vortana They are two different games, one has a Subscription (Eve) one does not (Dust514) If they want to use MT in Dust to make money from it fine...
Allthough the games are going to be married to each other, they are both very different. And should in no way be compared with each other.
I think the concern is that Dust514 matches are intended to tie in with EVE mechanics in some way, via sovereignty or whatever. Since Dust is pay-2-win, that has a potential knock-on pay-2-win effect on Eve.
I don't know that they've said anything specific about what's planned, so it's hard to judge if that's a genuine concern. They've certainly talked up the fact that the games will influence each other, but that might be largely marketing hype at this point.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.06.29 09:45:00 -
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Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 29/06/2011 09:45:08
Originally by: Lunar Epoch
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny DUST players will be of the lowest class, I would wager that they won't even have eyepatches.
You are so immature it is embarrasing. Grow up!
You must fix your error of quoting for I do not wish to strain my eyes to see what an unruly commoner has to say.
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Kelvandar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.29 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Vortana They are two different games, one has a Subscription (Eve) one does not (Dust514) If they want to use MT in Dust to make money from it fine...
Allthough the games are going to be married to each other, they are both very different. And should in no way be compared with each other.
Currently they are, yes. Down the road that could change at CCP's whim.
Look at Plex. Its an in-game item that gets created by converting a GTC. The only use for Plex prior to Incarna was to use it as a 30 day subscription extension. The obligation on the GTC to the customer ended with the GTC being used to convert it to an in-game item. Making Plex transportable in the cargo hold of a ship underscores that it is an in-game item. Particularly when it could drop or be destroyed if the ship is killed.
By making Plex convertible to AUR it would still have some in-game value to the players if CCP at some point were to switch over to a completely free to play model for EvE. They could simply remove the 30 day conversion and not have to worry about what to do with the outstanding Plex stockpiles.
CCP would have made more money by making AUR purchasable directly on their web site via credit card rather than convertable by Plex. The existing Plex stockpiles have already been paid for and give CCP no new revenue doing it this way.
I am not saying they will actually do this, just that they have deliberately taken steps down this road and have that option available to them at any point.
So its a fair point to compare the two games. We'll just have to see what CCP does when Dust comes out I guess.
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robbyx
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Posted - 2011.06.29 10:37:00 -
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Do not care...this will freakin' destroy DUST...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSN5JdMcxb8
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Zagdul
Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.29 10:38:00 -
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Edited by: Lamparski on 29/06/2011 08:29:35 Edited by: Lamparski on 29/06/2011 08:23:59 Edited by: Lamparski on 28/06/2011 11:38:42 Edited by: Lamparski on 28/06/2011 11:36:28 Edited by: Lamparski on 28/06/2011 11:26:35
Awesome,
I'm gonna be able to MT Dust slaves.
Count me in.
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Zwemleeuw
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Posted - 2011.06.29 10:42:00 -
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i think isk will be in DUST to like eve but you have to buy the isk online with Aur.
and the connection dust<>eve will also be Aur and not isk or plex
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Karsa Egivand
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.29 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 29/06/2011 08:56:06
Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
Becuase trailers are like almighty oracles .
Yep, books and their covers.
As yet there isn't much public information available to draw many conclusions about how P2W in Dust will impact Eve. All we do know for sure is that real world wealth will be injected into Dust. We can assume that ISK is the medium used between the two games. We don't know about Aurum yet in that regard.
We don't know the $cash costs of anything in Dust, we've nothing to guess the prices except the joke prices in the Nex. (Not a good move CCP, doh!) We also do not know about the ISK faucet/sink ratios in Dust, how they work, much less what other rewards of 'loot' they may or may not get in-game.
Will wealth flows to Dust be a net negative for Eve, neutral, positive? We really can not draw any conclusions at this time. It has the potential to be quite negative and cause a deflationary depression, neutral or horribly inflationary and anything in between.
We need moar info, and this rate, considering recent events, I will not be renting lung space to angles.
bears repeating
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Jail Baiter
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Posted - 2011.06.29 10:56:00 -
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Edited by: Jail Baiter on 29/06/2011 10:57:35
Originally by: Zagdul Edited by: Lamparski on 29/06/2011 08:29:35 Edited by: Lamparski on 29/06/2011 08:23:59 Edited by: Lamparski on 28/06/2011 11:38:42 Edited by: Lamparski on 28/06/2011 11:36:28 Edited by: Lamparski on 28/06/2011 11:26:35
Awesome,
I'm gonna be able to MT Dust slaves.
Count me in.
So true.
All they will be fighting for is our PI installations probably. Unless they release new planetside stuff before dust hits.
Lets just hope the guys on the ground can't go nuclear on our ass.
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Kaptain Kruncher
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Posted - 2011.06.29 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Lamparski Edited by: Lamparski on 29/06/2011 08:29:35 Edited by: Lamparski on 29/06/2011 08:23:59 Edited by: Lamparski on 28/06/2011 11:38:42 Edited by: Lamparski on 28/06/2011 11:36:28 Edited by: Lamparski on 28/06/2011 11:26:35 It might already be settled and theres no going back. Dust 514 will have a one time fee on the Playstation Network, then have microtransactions. Dust 514 players will also be able to join Corps in either Eve Online or Dust 514. I think we will paying Dust players with Aur, and this is probably set in stone. Isk will be useless to the Dust players. The writing is on the wall.
This will be an ingame advantage. link
link
the future
I thought you quit already
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