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vasuul
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Posted - 2011.06.30 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: vasuul on 30/06/2011 14:24:39
Originally by: BtodaC The CSM can't really make demands, its not like it has any bargaining power. It can try to make sure CCP understands the players views and give some suggestions to improve the design as well as give some feedback on any alterations. I'm sure they will do good but donĘt expect the 'no to micro transactions' camp to have any success. I also expect they will be helping CCP to communicate clearly that micro transactions will only ever be for vanity items and hopefully why CCP will keep their word (i.e. Because they understand that 'pay to win' would destroy the premise of the eve sandbox).
The CSM's do have bargaining power US. The Players CCP has to know that the players are not happy. and if they want to keep us all playing they have choices to make A lot of the player base united to show its disapproval, either by the ship protest or the,unsubbing of accounts when ccp refused to listen. Right now there are a whole lot more players that have their fingers hovering over the unsub button CCP has to know what is at stake they **** us off and the golden geese fly from the coop
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vasuul
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Posted - 2011.06.30 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: vasuul on 30/06/2011 14:36:47 RT @Trebor_CSM: BTW, John Turbefield, the Man, the Legend, the Monocle! http://yfrog.com/kle9eryj #tweetfleet #csm6 #eveonline
http://yfrog.com/kle9eryj lol
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vasuul
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Posted - 2011.06.30 14:51:00 -
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i was not saying the CSM own the players i was making an analogy of the situation analogy ::Our CSM's are the strike negotiators we are the ****ed off union employees
The CSM are there to look after our interests and be our voice to CCP i was merely stating this is like a strike negotiation, hopefully it comes up with a settlement we can all be happy with. CCP should have a vested interest in making their player-base happy again im sure none of them want to be laid off in this economy either way we are all watching and waiting to see how it comes out .
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vasuul
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Posted - 2011.06.30 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy Twas the hour of meeting, and all through the thread, not a creature was stirring, not even a dred. The noobs were all hung, by their innards with care, in hopes that GMs, would soon be there.
The pirates were nestled, all clustered by drones, as they sat upon piles of dead foes' bones, Some chick pod pilot flew by in her cap, while I settled down for a no CQ nap.
When out of the station there rose such a clang, I shouted out, "hey who's flyin this thang?" Away to my ship, I lagged down the hall, trying to get to my pod pilot ball.
I tried to undock, but my ship didn't work, damn this siht is gonna drive me berserk! so instead I jumped and got out of there, fracking cq, it messed up my hair!
So we wait on the question, the yellow one there, they can't answer, does it give them a scare? We'll wait some more and give it a day, and watch what they do and not what they say.
+1
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vasuul
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Posted - 2011.06.30 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: vasuul on 30/06/2011 15:10:01 Not to sound too much like one of those peace Guru's with the shaved head
But we need positive vibes to affect positive change
some recent tweets We plan to make a joint statement at the end of day 2 with specific details and points agreed to. #csm6 #tweetfleet Already some things that I know people will respond positively to. #csm6 #tweetfleet
a little faith will go a long way
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vasuul
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Posted - 2011.06.30 15:43:00 -
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Give em time guy's let them get their ducks in a row that way when the official statement comes out we can all print a copy for ourselves. Then if CCP even goes back on their word, we can all ship a cardboard box we have crapped in to iceland with that memo inside p.s. make sure you send it C.O.D for $1000.00 (the cost of zulu's pant )
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vasuul
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Andraine Soooo are we getting the station view back? will the door be no more?
Or has nothing been sad about that?
from trebor 1hr ago ::We plan to make a joint statement at the end of day 2 with specific details and points agreed to. #csm6 #tweetfleet
patience padowan
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vasuul
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Vain Eldritch
Originally by: vasuul
Originally by: Andraine Soooo are we getting the station view back? will the door be no more?
Or has nothing been sad about that?
from trebor 1hr ago ::We plan to make a joint statement at the end of day 2 with specific details and points agreed to. #csm6 #tweetfleet
patience padowan
Padowan? Paedowan? Padawan?
eh whatever lol patience grasshoper there that fits better with my generation
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vasuul
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Amar Azaph
CCP is a commercial entity and like other commercial entities, they are easily contactable to highlight an issue in level of service, or any other issue that a customer may wish to discuss. I do not want/need anyone to assume the role of my "go-between" when dealing with a commercial entity. I hope this has cleared up any confusion.
But that was the problem CCP staff went flat silent on us. After the patch they were not listening to any of the players issues. It took a mob of irate customers ,whether blasting memorials ,or raging to pull the plug, and bad press for them to wake the hell up and talk to us. This is hopefully something that doesn't happen again communication breakdown lead to this pure and simple in these times we have to depend on our elected CSM's to fight for our rights If you don't vote that's up to you But I for one am glad there is some one out there that came get face time with the bigwigs at CCP when we need them to. I have been playing since 2007 and this is the first time i have ever raged over anything in this game that ccp did. Granted there was a lot of nerfs that ****ed me off over the years,it was tolerable i could live with it adapt and overcome most of the time i praised the updates CCP has done some great work in the past, but this one was substandard to say the least To me i think Incarna was a rush job of nothing it didnt really add to the game, But it held the threat of taking away so much. and the silence from on high did not help.
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vasuul
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Amar Azaph
1. Who owns these forums? 2. Do members of the EVE community post on there forums ? 3. Do members of the EVE community who have various issues with aspects of EVE game play/developments post their opinions on these forums ? 4. Do members of CCP read/monitor these forums? 5. Do members of CCP post comments on these forums ? in other words,do they interact with the members of the EVE community? 6. What value add does the CSM bring to the table in terms of making this process more effective and efficient?
1. CCP 2. yes including all the rage and anger posts I would have to say the forums get used 3. yes including the off the wall stuff 4. they should be 5. they were doing a **** poor job of it hence the rage 6. When you are being ignored cause you are angry its good to have an intermediary , face time is better than typing a forum post especially when no one is answering ,more can be done faster, in a face to face meeting especially when the **** hits the fan. just my opinion
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vasuul
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Posted - 2011.07.01 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: vasuul on 01/07/2011 15:24:09 For those of you in the doom and gloom mode that say your patience is gone might I remind you if this fails the options you have left
1.shoot the statue's in mass protest again and create more stink to get ccp back to the table again. 2. unsub. 3. deal with with what ever they say and try to over come and adapt as all eve players have done in the past and ride that busted mule til its dead garnering any pleasure where you can find it.
I for one am hoping for the best. I mean we all love the EVE we remember ,or else we wouldn't be here trying so hard to find out which way these talks are going to go.
We lose nothing by trying to negotiate a settlement.
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