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Mya ElleTerego
Amarr The Hull Miners Union
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Posted - 2011.07.01 05:39:00 -
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What a ounce of effort and honesty gets you. When your open with your playerbase, tell them whats going on, and focus on the problem like your pants are on fire, and your players have the only can of water.
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.07.01 06:13:00 -
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lol, their game didn't work with 500 people logged in, and now you thank them for fixing it.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind PO, and I like and support all small indy dev's, but please.
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Laplamis
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Posted - 2011.07.01 06:20:00 -
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CCP is going to read this because they totally care about what we say. |
Quotia
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Posted - 2011.07.01 06:26:00 -
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You know when a vegetarian tries to convince you that Tofu tastes like meat if you put BBQ sauce on it? That's how I feel about PO. It's not eve, not even close tbh, but people are trying to convert other people to it. I mean 2 weeks ago, PO couldn't hold EVE's jock strap now all of a sudden its the model CCP should follow? When do all your subs run out again?
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Evet Morrel
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.07.01 06:33:00 -
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Nicely put Mya, +1 to the devs, this is exactly how history is made - some may have forgotten it.
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Janna Raven
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Posted - 2011.07.01 06:35:00 -
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AHAHAHHAAHAHAA just look at them ****ty portraits OH MY GOD LAUGHING SOOO HARD!11
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.07.01 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Janna Raven AHAHAHHAAHAHAA just look at them ****ty portraits OH MY GOD LAUGHING SOOO HARD!11
Amazingly, they get to look way older than our old pre-Incursion avatars... CCP Helmar: "this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say". Me: UNSUBBING NOW |
Chong Woon
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Posted - 2011.07.01 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: Mya ElleTerego What a ounce of effort and honesty gets you. When your open with your playerbase, tell them whats going on, and focus on the problem like your pants are on fire, and your players have the only can of water.
Bump since we all know mechs always trumps spaceships anywhere
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Luna Nera
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Posted - 2011.07.01 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: Janna Raven AHAHAHHAAHAHAA just look at them ****ty portraits OH MY GOD LAUGHING SOOO HARD!11
ah ah very funny, we've stunning avatars ... cool .... |
Portmanteau
Gallente CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.07.01 07:04:00 -
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Originally by: Luna Nera
Originally by: Janna Raven AHAHAHHAAHAHAA just look at them ****ty portraits OH MY GOD LAUGHING SOOO HARD!11
ah ah very funny, we've stunning avatars ... cool ....
heh... just found CCP's new target audience
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ApophisXP
Sadistic Retribution Sadistic Empire
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Posted - 2011.07.01 07:08:00 -
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There are 2 things that make EVE Better.
1) EVE is Better. 2) Perpetuum doesnt have monocles :(
These posts represent my Personal views and not those of my Corporation nor my Alliance. |
Garreth Vlox
Minmatar Obsidian Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.01 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Quotia You know when a vegetarian tries to convince you that Tofu tastes like meat if you put BBQ sauce on it? That's how I feel about PO. It's not eve, not even close tbh, but people are trying to convert other people to it. I mean 2 weeks ago, PO couldn't hold EVE's jock strap now all of a sudden its the model CCP should follow? When do all your subs run out again?
is that you zulu?
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.07.01 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Erichk Knaar lol, their game didn't work with 500 people logged in
Neither did CCPs until they were faced with that problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.07.01 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: Erichk Knaar lol, their game didn't work with 500 people logged in
Neither did CCPs until they were faced with that problem.
Not true good sir, because I'm old enough to remember.
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Jaxom Asgard
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Posted - 2011.07.01 07:32:00 -
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I hope they didn't spend too much real money on fixing things.....
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San Severina
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.01 07:41:00 -
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Ninja Perpetuum add
You know I might even DL the client now the new month is upon us.
The gameplay vids look pretty cool.
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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2011.07.01 08:21:00 -
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Well look at that, they even have it so you can hide behind solid objects and not get hit!
To think! Players in EVE were screaming that would be impossible to code! Just goes to prove me right that games developers are just getting completely lazy.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2011.07.01 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Valei Khurelem Well look at that, they even have it so you can hide behind solid objects and not get hit!
To think! Players in EVE were screaming that would be impossible to code! Just goes to prove me right that games developers are just getting completely lazy.
They also found a way around having the absolutely imperative daily downtime. Cheaters!
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Harcosi
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Posted - 2011.07.01 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: San Severina Ninja Perpetuum add
You know I might even DL the client now the new month is upon us.
The gameplay vids look pretty cool.
The game is very good, the market is pretty empty though. So anyone who is an industrialist type could make an absolute killing there.
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Kai'il Bhaal
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Posted - 2011.07.01 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Valei Khurelem Well look at that, they even have it so you can hide behind solid objects and not get hit!
To think! Players in EVE were screaming that would be impossible to code! Just goes to prove me right that games developers are just getting completely lazy.
EVE Complexity!= Perpetuum.
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Tuggboat
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.01 08:35:00 -
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People actually talk this way to devs? must be plants.
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Jasdemi
Interstellar Whine Brewery Monocle Overlords
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Posted - 2011.07.01 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: ApophisXP There are 2 things that make EVE Better.
1) EVE is Better. 2) Perpetuum doesnt have monocles :(
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Lemmy Kravitz
Minmatar Rebirth.
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Posted - 2011.07.01 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Quotia You know when a vegetarian tries to convince you that Tofu tastes like meat if you put BBQ sauce on it? That's how I feel about PO. It's not eve, not even close tbh, but people are trying to convert other people to it. I mean 2 weeks ago, PO couldn't hold EVE's jock strap now all of a sudden its the model CCP should follow? When do all your subs run out again?
I am not a vegetarian, but there is a little vegetarian chinese play in the san fernando valley in southern california that you should check out. It's on Reseda just north of victory in a little mini mall on the west side of reseda. They make food that tastes like normal meat feel like normal meat smell like normal meat down to the crispy chicken skin. all of it tofu. Educate yourself, eat the world. ------------------------------------------------- "Vae Victis" -Brennus |
Maa Ku
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Posted - 2011.07.01 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jasdemi
Originally by: ApophisXP There are 2 things that make EVE Better.
1) EVE is Better. 2) Perpetuum doesnt have monocles :(
Dude the robot on the front screen has like 8 monocles. Sorry, man. I know how much that thing means to you.
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Toawa
EVE Mercantile Exchange Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2011.07.01 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: Quotia You know when a vegetarian tries to convince you that Tofu tastes like meat if you put BBQ sauce on it?
Tofu is a wonderful food... When cooked and presented as tofu. Whoever invented the tofu burger, tofu dogs, and any other kind of "hey, those evil carnivores won't know the difference if we just package it like animal flesh" foods need to be tried for crimes against humanity (and soybeanity).
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Lady Go Diveher
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Posted - 2011.07.01 09:51:00 -
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My favourite part of Perpetuum is how 80-90% of the gameplay is walking over flat bland landscapes to get to and from where you need to be.
Autopilot? No problem! It'll just walk at the same speed, straight into an object. Then stop.
I get that some of you like the novelty of the little indie game, but an Eve beater it is not. Especially, when it's essentially eve with spaceships swapped for bots. Also? I just tricked you into reading my signature. |
Xorth Adimus
Caldari Blackwater USA Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.07.01 10:21:00 -
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Hi Mya,
Your playing mechs (eve) online now?
poor b*stards hope they are ready for the elephant dong!
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max scrotes
Gallente Aurora Security Transstellar Operations
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Posted - 2011.07.01 10:21:00 -
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I played the free trial for a few days, just subbed for 3 months ( ú24 ) the game is in it's infancy and of course not the polished game eve is. I feel this game is going places and decided to get a foot in before it explodes into life :) So do 5 of my corp members in eve. Anyone looking for an eve replacement are deluding themselves at this point in time.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.07.01 10:27:00 -
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I will also be playing Perp-O after the summer. Notbecause the game is better than EVE, it isn't, but because it's still small enough that the devs care and most importantly because it's not CCP. CCP can go play fearless with their whales or whatever, but I don't really want to have much to do with them in future. --------------------- Unsubbed. |
Snasty
Caldari The Hippies The Bohemians
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Posted - 2011.07.01 10:38:00 -
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Interesting, a couple of my corp mates have left Eve to give this a go, guess I'll have a look-see myself, downloading client now... --------------------------------------- -=Snasty, short for Shagnasty ever since the GM's in SWG made me change it...!=- |
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Anakin Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2011.07.01 10:38:00 -
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Unsubbed - playing perpetuum. Following the forums here just in case CCP do a major U turn but I fear that is wishfull thinking.
Is Perp perfect ?- no.
Would I rather be playing EVE as it was ? - yes
Does PERP have enough promise to make it worth giving a go? - yes.
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Zanetia Redux
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.01 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Go Diveher My favourite part of Perpetuum is how 80-90% of the gameplay is walking over flat bland landscapes to get to and from where you need to be.
Autopilot? No problem! It'll just walk at the same speed, straight into an object. Then stop.
I get that some of you like the novelty of the little indie game, but an Eve beater it is not. Especially, when it's essentially eve with spaceships swapped for bots.
It's an awful lot easier to make an autopilot when you just warp through planets, stars, stations and other players so don't have to worry about pathing or collision detection A devblog did state that they're working on a rudimentary one where you create manual waypoints, group them together in sequence and the bot will follow the path. Once that's working they'll look at adding some pathing AI to it.
It may not be an "Eve beater", but it has enough of the sandbox elements that Eve has (not to mention the game mechanics being identical in a lot of places) to scratch the same itch. And with it being fairly new and having a smaller playerbase, there's a lot more opportunities to shape the sandbox for a new player than with Eve. Sadly it doesn't have cool-looking internet spaceships going pew-pew but it's still a lot of fun.
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WrednaMalpa
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Posted - 2011.07.01 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Zanetia Redux
Originally by: Lady Go Diveher My favourite part of Perpetuum is how 80-90% of the gameplay is walking over flat bland landscapes to get to and from where you need to be.
Autopilot? No problem! It'll just walk at the same speed, straight into an object. Then stop.
I get that some of you like the novelty of the little indie game, but an Eve beater it is not. Especially, when it's essentially eve with spaceships swapped for bots.
It's an awful lot easier to make an autopilot when you just warp through planets, stars, stations and other players so don't have to worry about pathing or collision detection A devblog did state that they're working on a rudimentary one where you create manual waypoints, group them together in sequence and the bot will follow the path. Once that's working they'll look at adding some pathing AI to it.
It may not be an "Eve beater", but it has enough of the sandbox elements that Eve has (not to mention the game mechanics being identical in a lot of places) to scratch the same itch. And with it being fairly new and having a smaller playerbase, there's a lot more opportunities to shape the sandbox for a new player than with Eve. Sadly it doesn't have cool-looking internet spaceships going pew-pew but it's still a lot of fun.
Well, I agree now PO is about walking, walking, walking .... walking When they finish autopilot with waypoints I may look into it again
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Drae Fokker
Caldari Dark Nebula Academy
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Posted - 2011.07.01 11:29:00 -
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Holy God. MechWarrior 3 had better graphics than that, and it was made in 1998.
For that Matter, MechWarrior 2 for MSDOS had better graphics than that, and it was the first PC game I ever played.
(PO is a rip-off of MechWarrior/Battletech. Which is, yes I know, a rip of other things. With the MechWarrior reboot coming next year, I doubt I'll even try PO.)
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cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers
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Posted - 2011.07.01 11:33:00 -
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Who gives a damn if the portraits looks bad? I know I honestly dont care about portraits. My main question is, is that game any good?
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Snasty
Caldari The Hippies The Bohemians
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Posted - 2011.07.01 11:46:00 -
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Well I dont have a clue what I'm doing in game yet, but my kill score is 4-0, so thats a good enough start for me :-)
I note the comments on walking about over long distances and the lack of a fully developed AP, but it has to be said that travel in Eve is far from a joy, it was rather grim in SWG also, at least until the speeders arrived which improved things a fair bit.
It's a hard balance, we want a large world with small travel I guess.
I'll give it a decent look over the weekend, I think it's worth that much at least from my initial peek. --------------------------------------- -=Snasty, short for Shagnasty ever since the GM's in SWG made me change it...!=- |
Messy Beaver
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Posted - 2011.07.01 12:47:00 -
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I may actually resub the 2 accounts I cancelled. Clearly if CCP has gotten rid of attention seeking ***gots like you from game then their strategy is bang on. You made my ears bleed on ts with your inane drivel and claw my eyes out at your **** poasting.
Well done CCP non vanity items are a decent trade off for getting rid of the likes of these. Now if you can get rid of butterdog, snotshot, akita t, general windypops and tom gerard I will subscribe another account for every1 you get rid of. |
SciWolf
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Posted - 2011.07.01 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: cBOLTSON Who gives a damn if the portraits looks bad? I know I honestly dont care about portraits. My main question is, is that game any good?
I enjoy it. Graphics is not the game itself. It actually IS EVE-ONLINE back in 2003-2005.
To all those laughing - go kill yourself.
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Mya ElleTerego
Amarr The Hull Miners Union
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Posted - 2011.07.01 12:55:00 -
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Just for the record guys, I wasn't saying perp was better than eve in this thread. I was commenting on how transparency and customer service and your give a shi t not being broken, instills loyalty in your customer base.
Hi Xorth . Also for the record it is a bit novelty, but its also refreshing and pretty fun.
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Mya ElleTerego
Amarr The Hull Miners Union
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Posted - 2011.07.01 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Messy Beaver I may actually resub the 2 accounts I cancelled. Clearly if CCP has gotten rid of attention seeking ***gots like you from game then their strategy is bang on. You made my ears bleed on ts with your inane drivel and claw my eyes out at your **** poasting.
Well done CCP non vanity items are a decent trade off for getting rid of the likes of these. Now if you can get rid of butterdog, snotshot, akita t, general windypops and tom gerard I will subscribe another account for every1 you get rid of.
If anyone is looking for a bowl of cereal to take a steamy turd in, this guy is obviously is a worthy target. Glad I could get some butthurt from you even while on break from eve.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2011.07.01 13:01:00 -
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You could also dig up a link pre-2007 or so and you'll find similar stuff here. Remember when we still had devs actively posting on forums? Nonsense and content alike? Real devs too, not just the brainstorming funky dudes whos main job now is to be forum janitors..
But yeah, I have a question regarding that link; can you join NeX even tho you're on trial? -
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Messy Beaver
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Posted - 2011.07.01 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Mya ElleTerego
Originally by: Messy Beaver I may actually resub the 2 accounts I cancelled. Clearly if CCP has gotten rid of attention seeking ***gots like you from game then their strategy is bang on. You made my ears bleed on ts with your inane drivel and claw my eyes out at your **** poasting.
Well done CCP non vanity items are a decent trade off for getting rid of the likes of these. Now if you can get rid of butterdog, snotshot, akita t, general windypops and tom gerard I will subscribe another account for every1 you get rid of.
If anyone is looking for a bowl of cereal to take a steamy turd in, this guy is obviously is a worthy target. Glad I could get some butthurt from you even while on break from eve.
lol well I have to give you something back after all the butthurt I gave you on TS, I will miss you blubbing like a baby |
Urgg Boolean
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Posted - 2011.07.01 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Quotia You know when a vegetarian tries to convince you that Tofu tastes like meat if you put BBQ sauce on it? That's how I feel about PO. It's not eve, not even close tbh, but people are trying to convert other people to it. I mean 2 weeks ago, PO couldn't hold EVE's jock strap now all of a sudden its the model CCP should follow? When do all your subs run out again?
What's your point? Robots are not vegetarians...
The PO dev team produces two in-game elements that I think CCP has forgotten about : fun and smooth game play. The PO dev team still appears to be working for the subscription payers, unlike CCP who has the subscription payers working for them.
At this point in EvE, I have so many concatenated technical problems that I don't even want to log on: my system screen goes dim every time I start up EvE such that I can't see anything if I alt-tab out. The key stokes seem to be seriously flaky such that many different key combinations result in zooming to the targeted enemy ship. NPC cargo containers seem to have regressed to old problems. And the CQ takes away functionality by placing a new layer of cumbersome graphics on top the old garbage interface. No improvements, no fixes. I simply do not want to pay for such poor service anymore.
I am very skeptical that the CCP/CSM talks will produce anything close to monumental. I'll bet it'll be business as usual.
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Urgg Boolean
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Posted - 2011.07.01 13:38:00 -
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Edited by: Urgg Boolean on 01/07/2011 13:38:46 *fixed my spelling errors
Originally by: Misanth You could also dig up a link pre-2007 or so and you'll find similar stuff here. Remember when we still had devs actively posting on forums? Nonsense and content alike? Real devs too, not just the brainstorming funky dudes whos main job now is to be forum janitors..
But yeah, I have a question regarding that link; can you join NeX even tho you're on trial?
No, you can only join a corp in PO if you are subbed. Nex member here...
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Zen Sins
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Posted - 2011.07.01 14:11:00 -
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Well, tried out PO yesterday for the first time after hearing how many Eve players were migrating to it. We all know it's still pretty rough, but a couple interesting key points:
1) There is no skill queue to constantly maintain. 2) PO's "SP" flows into your account (not your individual character) as long as the account is active. 3) This means that if you keep the account active (paid) you are gaining just as many SP as someone playing the game actively.
Having discovered this, I plan on paying for a year up front and just letting an account grow automatically. This gets me in early so that if I ever do decide to play PO regularly, I'll have an account that was active almost since day one. I was not here for the start of Eve, but can see the benefits gained by those who were. Why pay for a year up front? For one, there's no automatic renewal on monthly subs. Two, it looks like a good game and I hope they can use the cash to help with development. Three, you get a nice discount for paying in advance.
My advice to other Eve refugees... don't do what I did. The less people starting early, the more advantage I'll have in PO a year from now when its all polished and awesome.
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Lady Go Diveher
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Posted - 2011.07.01 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: SciWolf
Originally by: cBOLTSON Who gives a damn if the portraits looks bad? I know I honestly dont care about portraits. My main question is, is that game any good?
I enjoy it. Graphics is not the game itself. It actually IS EVE-ONLINE back in 2003-2005.
To all those laughing - go kill yourself.
You clearly never played eve in 2003-2005, as I don't remember "highsec" requiring you to "turn on your PVP flag" to be engaged. Nor do I remember a time when you could only open YOUR cans and no one elses. It's a carebear paradise.
*It looks and plays like someone was putting together a tech demo in 1998. *Walk to point A past 50 identical trees *Performance is terrible, even considering that *Walk to point B past 50 identical trees *It is an enormous Eve clone. What are they going to add after they stop copying Eve content? *Walk to point C past 50 identical trees *It copies eve's mistakes; mining is in the game and it is EVEN MORE BORING AND TEDIOUS THAN IN EVE. *Walk to point D past 50 identical trees *It copies eve's mistakes 2; massive AOE damage weapons prevent smaller bots being viable in PVP *Walk to point E past 50 identical trees *Combat is terribly dull, as there is no difference between standing still and running about (there is no tracking in the game..) *Walk to point F past 50 identical trees *Ammo is so expensive you need to consider a loan before engaging. *Walk to point G past 50 identical trees *You can only armour tank and the number of viable fits is small *Walk to point H past 50 identical trees *Default lock time is 10seconds plus *Walk to point I past 50 identical trees *Lock time is an epic problem, as if someone else gets a shot against the NPC first, the loot is "locked" as being theirs. *Walk to point J past 50 identical trees *You can't bump people (you pass right through) *You end up training most of your skills to avoid the issues in the game (so navigation and lock time chiefly...) rather than anything useful. *LASERS USE CAP AND AMMO.. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND INVENTED THAT!?
Eve was better in beta than this. Also? I just tricked you into reading my signature. |
Janna Raven
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Posted - 2011.07.01 14:29:00 -
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still laughing, sorry
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TehMaster
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Posted - 2011.07.01 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: TehMaster on 01/07/2011 14:32:23 The more i browse the forums the more I realize CCP has a pretty serious problem on their hands. Not that a player disagreement with CCP is anything new, but this time it seems to be more of a player revolt. Not enough for me to head over to etrade and jump ship, but concerning none the less.
Edit: Also, what's with Zulus blog lately? Whats going on inside CCP that we need to worry about?
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P
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Posted - 2011.07.01 16:09:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion.
Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us |
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Takseen
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Posted - 2011.07.01 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Go Diveher
<snip other stuff> *LASERS USE CAP AND AMMO.. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND INVENTED THAT!?
Eve was better in beta than this.
I do actually agree with some of your points but...you can't criticise the game for being an Eve clone *and* point out all the things that are different to Eve.
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Lady Go Diveher
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Takseen
Originally by: Lady Go Diveher
<snip other stuff> *LASERS USE CAP AND AMMO.. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND INVENTED THAT!?
Eve was better in beta than this.
I do actually agree with some of your points but...you can't criticise the game for being an Eve clone *and* point out all the things that are different to Eve.
By that flawed logic, having to walk everywhere is also "different." My comments went beyond what was merely different to things that just straight up don't work.
The lazors thing was a bit of a joke, anyway. It's probably 'balanced' fairly well. Also? I just tricked you into reading my signature. |
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