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Gabriel Rosencrantz
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Posted - 2011.07.01 19:59:00 -
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As a professional writer and editor, I can attest that you can't release text the instant you stop typing. Proper translation takes time. Many idioms, terms, phrases, and manners of speech simply don't translate on a one-to-one basis.
In order to avoid issues with some players getting information first and then relaying crap to the non-english speaking players, they are doing what any organization SHOULD do. Take your time and get it right. After all, that is what you're all *****ing about, right? That they didn't take their time to get things right with Incarna before releasing it? And then screwing up their follow-up by having the CEO release a statement while angry?
Srsly, there is nothing you guys won't ***** about. |
Ein Spiegel
Minmatar Fly-by-Night Industries LLC PTY LTD
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Rosencrantz As a professional writer and editor, I can attest that you can't release text the instant you stop typing. Proper translation takes time. Many idioms, terms, phrases, and manners of speech simply don't translate on a one-to-one basis.
In order to avoid issues with some players getting information first and then relaying crap to the non-english speaking players, they are doing what any organization SHOULD do. Take your time and get it right. After all, that is what you're all *****ing about, right? That they didn't take their time to get things right with Incarna before releasing it? And then screwing up their follow-up by having the CEO release a statement while angry?
Srsly, there is nothing you guys won't ***** about.
I won't ***** about getting laid by a hot chick.
Just sayin'.
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tugrath Akers The statement should have been released before you all went barhopping tonight.
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YarrMama
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tutskii
Originally by: Tugrath Akers The statement should have been released before you all went barhopping tonight.
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xanavi
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Clavian Voi
You see, Trebor, this is why we don't trust you and why so many people are referring to the CSM as a joke. You're either intentionally misrepresenting the entire situation or truly are clueless about how the community actually feels. So let's clarify it: We're not ****ed off because CCP failed to clearly communicate its plans for EVE to us. On the contrary, we have a very clear understanding of where CCP is headed and have already seen part of it with our own eyes with the release of Incarna.
Sorry, Trebor, but this is not just a big misunderstanding. Not by a long shot. A very significant portion of EVE players are fundamentally opposed to where CCP wants to take EVE, and we have no intention of being fleeced to pay for it. CCP's behavior has been appalling, if not entirely unexpected. But the response of the CSM has been slow, disorganized, and generally somewhat clueless. Many of us had hoped that would not be the case.
Unfortunately, the general consensus is that the CSM members have become willing participants in CCP's MT-fuelled dog and pony show. So no, we don't trust you. And no, your big 'joint statement' is not going to be taken at face value. It's going to be treated with the same skepticism with which many players have now learned to treat everything produced by CCP.
A little less frat boy partying and a little more attention to effective communication with the community might done wonders to change the perception of the CSM. The community's united response over the last week provided you and your fellow CSM members with a golden opportunity to finally push for a serious revision of CCP's long-term development roadmap. Instead, we've seen nothing but stalling and bragging about hangovers and partying with the devs.
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Chiggy W
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: YarrMama
Originally by: Tutskii
Originally by: Tugrath Akers The statement should have been released before you all went barhopping tonight.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:07:00 -
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] We have already made up our minds what the truth is, stop wasting time trying to confuse us with facts.
===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Govinda Sertan
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:08:00 -
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Edited by: Govinda Sertan on 01/07/2011 20:08:43
The statement should have been released before you all went barhopping tonight.
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Cydori
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Rosencrantz As a professional writer and editor, I can attest that you can't release text the instant you stop typing. Proper translation takes time. Many idioms, terms, phrases, and manners of speech simply don't translate on a one-to-one basis.
And it takes a lot longer when you're drunk, in a bar.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Govinda Sertan Edited by: Govinda Sertan on 01/07/2011 20:08:43
The statement should have been released before you all went barhopping tonight.
Because our CSM delegates are qualified to act as translators. SLACKERS!!! ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
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Erik Finnegan
Gallente Polytechnique Gallenteenne
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:10:00 -
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Why is this whining going on now ? Give them some rest.
We should appreciate that CCP may actually make pretty tough decisions here and that they, as a company, have an interest in communicating them they deem fit. We can be sure that the CSM influenced CCP to the best of their potential, and the CSM have surely maintained an unnegociable player standpoint. |
Rumplefink
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:12:00 -
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raBBLE RABble rABblE!
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Tester128
Fremen Sietch DarkSide.
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:15:00 -
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let me help with the translation [ ] [ ] yes no ja nein да нет
you know the question already, right?
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Slymah
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Meeogi The truth is always simple...short..and blunt.
"statements that take days" usually mean word play, spin, and lies.
-QFT-
This is the EVE player base. We are a simple bunch that want a simple answer.
Yes [ ]
No [ ]
Click one and be done CCP.
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tugrath Akers The statement should have been released before you all went barhopping tonight.
Want to buy a monocle? |
Juan Sezole
The Colonial Forces
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:15:00 -
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One simple question, CCPs credability on the line.
Game Changing Microtransactions, Deal or No Deal??
Not really a hard question to deal with unless your wearing $1000 pants
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Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:19:00 -
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I don't wear pants.
Ever.
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"MONOCLE-FREE" and Proud Of It !!!!!
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Gabriel Rosencrantz
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Cydori
Originally by: Gabriel Rosencrantz As a professional writer and editor, I can attest that you can't release text the instant you stop typing. Proper translation takes time. Many idioms, terms, phrases, and manners of speech simply don't translate on a one-to-one basis.
And it takes a lot longer when you're drunk, in a bar.
Seeing as none of them speak Russian or German at a certified translator skill level, it should be obvious they've turned it over to a professional translation service. Also, take a look at time zones on a map sometime.
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Ltd SpacePig
FISKL GUARDS RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:20:00 -
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Its not going to help what ever CSM or CCP says.. these crybabys has already made up their mind..most made up their mind without even reading the so called leaked newsletter and mails. So why would they care now? They claim that most if eve community are with them.. but thats not true at all.. 95% of eve doesn't even care about this ****.. and this is why they gonna rage again because they don't realize how few really cares about this after all.
CSM and CCP.. keep up the good work!
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Amar Azaph
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:21:00 -
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Lets give the CSM a break guys. They do this for us in their own time, sure the communication could have been better, but we can say that about most other organizations can't we? They do a good job representing the community and I'm sure they have laid it all out for CCP. We should applaud the CSM for taking the time to fly all the way to Iceland on our behalf, lets not forget that- they are there for us. I know feelings are running high around the community, but lets get right round the CSM and show them our full support. Sent from a campfire using smoke signals. |
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Caiyuga Onishi
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Govinda Sertan Edited by: Govinda Sertan on 01/07/2011 20:08:43
The statement should have been released before you all went barhopping tonight.
+1
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: DeTox MinRohim on 01/07/2011 20:25:45 Now we have to wait for a video (that nobody cared 5 minutes before) to come out with the transcripts in 3 languages.
Next thing we'll get is that they are preparing a remake of "Enemy at the Gates" Eve-style to summarize this whole SNAFU.
Stuff better be good. ------ This sig space is Read-only ! omgalink - Online Skillsheet |
Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Raid'En
from what i have read these last days the issue with CCP not answering by a simple "yes" or "no" was because there were an issue on what is considered "vanity items" and what is not.
if answer is big, i think it's because they will explains what they include inside the definition of "vanity items", and give examples (or maybe all) of what will be added with MTs, and what will not be.
it will also avoid them be called liars later if they add something that people find strange ; if they tell now what will be it will be easier. and of course if they change their mind another time the rage of today would be nothing compared to what would happen. and with complete information it will be easier for everyone to think about how they consider these acceptable or not.
that's the only explanation fitting the context i can see.
You know it's not really that hard a thing to describe. Vanity items are items and services that only provide cosmetic effects. So a Monocle doesn't offer some sort of play bonus is vanity. A paint job that can be applied to an existing ship and doesn't change any of it's base stats is a vanity item. Some wall art for your captain's quarters is a vanity item.
Extra save slots in the fitting tool is not vanity only.
Faster training is not vanity ownly. Blue prints that combine with existing items to create items in the game with superior stats than it's base product is not vanity only.
Once again vanity items are ones that only provide a cosmetic change.
It's not complicated any item or service that has any affect beyond altering cosmetic appearances is non-vanity.
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Van Doren
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Govinda Sertan
The statement should have been released before you all went barhopping tonight.
+1
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Govinda Sertan
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Erik Finnegan We should appreciate that CCP may actually make pretty tough decisions here and that they, as a company, have an interest in communicating them they deem fit. We can be sure that the CSM influenced CCP to the best of their potential, and the CSM have surely maintained an unnegociable player standpoint.
I dont understand a word of what you say man.
You must have the mouth full of the crap you licked from CCP's *******.
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Govinda Sertan
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:34:00 -
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-- BREAKING NEWS : --
CCP will prestent his answer to the fanbase in the form of a movie-saga. The work on the first episode should begin shortly. The CSM will be called for another meeting in two month, to think about the script. Estimate time released for the first movie (about the minor issues) : June 2013.
-- BREAKING NEWS : --
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RensPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Govinda Sertan -- BREAKING NEWS : --
CCP will prestent his answer to the fanbase in the form of a movie-saga. The work on the first episode should begin shortly. The CSM will be called for another meeting in two month, to think about the script. Estimate time released for the first movie (about the minor issues) : June 2013.
-- BREAKING NEWS : --
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Koba Kyogen
The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Caiyuga Onishi
Originally by: Govinda Sertan Edited by: Govinda Sertan on 01/07/2011 20:08:43
The statement should have been released before you all went barhopping tonight.
+1
truth
koba
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed. delaying startup again.
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Kendra Wilkinson
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Govinda Sertan Edited by: Govinda Sertan on 01/07/2011 20:08:43
The statement should have been released before you all went barhopping tonight.
Because our CSM delegates are qualified to act as translators. SLACKERS!!!
if you play EVE ONLINE you must able to read and speak ENGLISH (also if you arent native). We dont care about localization in german and russian, we dont care about video of mittens and zulu doing a 69.
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Alejan Gerakh
Minmatar Clan Hyena
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Posted - 2011.07.01 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Arista Shahni Not surprised. Not even disappointed.
After the 24th I could give two poops about the MTs, personally. It's one thing to be the soul-less money-hoovering corporation. It's another to pretend you're not and then when you get caught not even have the cahones to man up.
No point in listening.
Good day, sir. o7
You can think whatever you think. Assumptions based on partial evidence is still assumptions. This is why the CSM is there, and if you want to keep assuming the worst, that's your stance.
If you guys want to know what they think, just glance at their twitter feeds and see their reactions. It's not that bloody hard. ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me."
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