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Magnet Trade
Magnet Construction Ltd
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Posted - 2012.09.16 20:37:00 -
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I am making a TITLE for a prospective new member so that he can use my POS for research and invention. Onlining a couple extra labs and a build it thingy for invention. However After testing a few jobs (remotely ofc) I have discovered that I also need to add to this research:
"CONFIG STARBASE EQUIPMENT
This Role allows the holder to perform Starbase configuration, which involves fuelling, anchoring, unanchoring, onlining and offlining POS structures".
I am just curious why on earth (or space) that this role would need to be added to his title as it appears to me that it is non-relevant to what he actually needs. but with said role, he will not be able to take and copies that he creates from the pos labs.
Is there a way around this, because it seems to me that that I risk a new member tearing down my entire POS while I sleep.
Any informative help would be appreciated.
ps. No I am giving out roles the members, I am attaching them to a title so that I can use that same title over again. just wanted to make that clear. :) |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2012.09.16 20:41:00 -
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Nope. Corp rights management is an absolute irredeemable pile of crap, particularly when it comes to POSes. This is one of the main reasons my corp is not really bothering with them.
I'm sure someone else can give you some advice on how to at least moderately secure your POSes while letting your members use them for research. The only one I'm aware of is "make an alt corp and try to live with POS theft/sabotage if it happens". Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
975
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Posted - 2012.09.16 20:47:00 -
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You DON'T need Config Starbase to do research. Keep the labs online.
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.09.16 20:48:00 -
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To be brutally honest we are getting to the point where corp management is the single biggest issue ccp needs to look at (a sthey are fixing the various ship related issues at a goo drate). The whole thing needs completely redone from the ground up. |
Magnet Trade
Magnet Construction Ltd
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:00:00 -
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It is also for invention, and for invention he needs to be able to take from the pos labs/hangers. |
Djana Libra
The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:09:00 -
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Magnet Trade wrote:It is also for invention, and for invention he needs to be able to take from the pos labs/hangers.
pick 1 hangar for it give him rights to that one |
Magnet Trade
Magnet Construction Ltd
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:12:00 -
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Djana Libra wrote:Magnet Trade wrote:It is also for invention, and for invention he needs to be able to take from the pos labs/hangers. pick 1 hangar for it give him rights to that one
Tried that, does not work for the pos, the hanger access roles are not related to the POS unfortunately. :( |
Djana Libra
The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
14
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:13:00 -
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Magnet Trade wrote:Djana Libra wrote:Magnet Trade wrote:It is also for invention, and for invention he needs to be able to take from the pos labs/hangers. pick 1 hangar for it give him rights to that one Tried that, does not work for the pos, the hanger access roles are not related to the POS unfortunately. :(
Yes they are, be sure to use hangar acces (OTHER) and it will work for labs, hangar arrays, building arrays |
Magnet Trade
Magnet Construction Ltd
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:16:00 -
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Djana Libra wrote:Magnet Trade wrote:Djana Libra wrote:Magnet Trade wrote:It is also for invention, and for invention he needs to be able to take from the pos labs/hangers. pick 1 hangar for it give him rights to that one Tried that, does not work for the pos, the hanger access roles are not related to the POS unfortunately. :( Yes they are, be sure to use hangar acces (OTHER) and it will work for labs, hangar arrays, building arrays
I am sure you are wrong as that did not work, was the first thing I tried. he must have "CONFIG STARBASE EQUIPMENT" for it to work. he had three hangers with full view and take on (OTHER) and on testing could not take from the pos hangers |
Brooks Puuntai
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
745
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:19:00 -
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Corp roles when it comes to POSs are absolutely terrible.. However in your case he shouldn't need starbase config. |
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Magnet Trade
Magnet Construction Ltd
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:23:00 -
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When I remove it, my test alt cannot take from the pos hangers, I have even tried giving him access to every hanger division at HQ, Based AT and OTHER to no avail. however once I give him CONFIG STARBASE EQUIPMENT he can now take from the hangers,
Obviously bugged somehow as I totally agree he should not need access to take down the entire POS to be able to retrieve copies from a lab hanger
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Magnet Trade
Magnet Construction Ltd
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:25:00 -
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Infact, when trying to take said copies it flashes on the screen that you cannot take without "CONFIG STARBASE EQUIPMENT".
So what gives with that? |
Brooks Puuntai
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
745
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:28:00 -
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Check roles on the actual tower itself, you might have it set differently on the POS itself. I don't have a POS up to check and it's been awhile but I remember there was setting within the POS itself that maybe hindering you. |
Magnet Trade
Magnet Construction Ltd
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:30:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Check roles on the actual tower itself, you might have it set differently on the POS itself. I don't have a POS up to check and it's been awhile but I remember there was setting within the POS itself that maybe hindering you.
Thanks very much, I never thought of that and will look now and get back if that works.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:35:00 -
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GǪalso, aren't there settings in the S&I interface that you can fiddle with to alter access to the arrays? Not that I know that they do anything since they include the obviously non-working GǣpublicGǥ setting that does not make slots public, but heyGǪ
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Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
285
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:04:00 -
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what he said.
The role isn't needed. The only people who need it are directors and they already have it. Anybody else who needs it might as well be a director.
On the other hand, you can set up a title with roles that approaches a Director and has that. You still have to trust them with your POS though, if not your entire Corp Wallet.. That is the only reason you'd have a sub-director with that role; if you didn't trust them with your Corp Wallet.
But then, why would you trust them with your POS? You can always just control the Corp cash with your own wallet anyway. I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away. |
Magnet Trade
Magnet Construction Ltd
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:18:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:what he said. The role isn't needed. The only people who need it are directors and they already have it. Anybody else who needs it might as well be a director. On the other hand, you can set up a title with roles that approaches a Director and has that. You still have to trust them with your POS though, if not your entire Corp Wallet.. That is the only reason you'd have a sub-director with that role; if you didn't trust them with your Corp Wallet. But then, why would you trust them with your POS? You can always just control the Corp cash with your own wallet anyway.
I think you should have read a little more of the thread, everything you said has already been covered. thanks though
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Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
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Posted - 2012.09.16 22:58:00 -
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Config starbase is one of the most dangerous roles to give out. Be very sure not to give it to someone you don't completely trust, or you can expect to wake up and find your POS gone..... |
lanyaie
526
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Posted - 2012.09.16 23:05:00 -
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I'll be happy to come test out your pos roles if you like Hay |
Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.09.17 01:44:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪalso, aren't there settings in the S&I interface that you can fiddle with to alter access to the arrays? Not that I know that they do anything since they include the obviously non-working GǣpublicGǥ setting that does not make slots public, but heyGǪ Yeah, welcome to the wonderful mess of POSes.
This. On one of the POS management tabs at the stick, you can change the role required to have use, access, and [either offline or unanchor, I forget] each module hanging on the POS.
Your choices are Alliance, Corp, Starbase Fuel Tech, and Config Starbase equipment.
You do not need to give anyone CSE simply to allow them access to a module. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.17 02:43:00 -
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Has anyone suggested that he could do the research at a station in the same system as the POS?
Edit: You just need the skill Scientific Networking trained 1 level? And of course, the station has to have a corp hanger. |
Magnet Trade
Magnet Construction Ltd
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:09:00 -
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non judgement wrote:Has anyone suggested that he could do the research at a station in the same system as the POS?
Edit: You just need the skill Scientific Networking trained 1 level? And of course, the station has to have a corp hanger.
This is a Troll.. right?
if not at least read the initial post before making yourself look an ass, you ass. |
Magnet Trade
Magnet Construction Ltd
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Posted - 2012.09.17 20:43:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Tippia wrote:GǪalso, aren't there settings in the S&I interface that you can fiddle with to alter access to the arrays? Not that I know that they do anything since they include the obviously non-working GǣpublicGǥ setting that does not make slots public, but heyGǪ Yeah, welcome to the wonderful mess of POSes. This. On one of the POS management tabs at the stick, you can change the role required to have use, access, and [either offline or unanchor, I forget] each module hanging on the POS. Your choices are Alliance, Corp, Starbase Fuel Tech, and Config Starbase equipment. You do not need to give anyone CSE simply to allow them access to a module.
Yep this was it, thanks a whole bunch for all your help. I changed it to corp and all is working as intended now. |
Akira Menoko
Cestus Wraith
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Posted - 2012.09.18 17:42:00 -
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Magnet Trade wrote:I am making a TITLE for a prospective new member so that he can use my POS for research and invention. Onlining a couple extra labs and a build it thingy for invention....
Magnet Trade wrote: I changed it to corp and all is working as intended now.
I hope you only changed the module access to corp and not the ability to online/offline modules to corp. Because then anyone in your corp could just walk in and offline the tower. |
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