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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.07.06 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Yarrrrrhh on 06/07/2011 12:08:27 Not sure of what seems to be the problem. If you don't like this thread, just ignore it.
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.07.06 12:42:00 -
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Updated.
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Important Person
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Posted - 2011.07.06 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh Edited by: Yarrrrrhh on 06/07/2011 12:08:27 Not sure of what seems to be the problem.
The problem is you presenting your malformed opinions on behalf of all eve players to internet "journalists" whose integrity is at best questionable.
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.07.06 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Important Person
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh Edited by: Yarrrrrhh on 06/07/2011 12:08:27 Not sure of what seems to be the problem.
The problem is you presenting your malformed opinions on behalf of all eve players to internet "journalists" whose integrity is at best questionable.
I'm backing my 'opinions' up with links to facts. What - other than your own opinion - are you bringing to the table?
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2011.07.06 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
Originally by: Important Person
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh Edited by: Yarrrrrhh on 06/07/2011 12:08:27 Not sure of what seems to be the problem.
The problem is you presenting your malformed opinions on behalf of all eve players to internet "journalists" whose integrity is at best questionable.
I'm backing my 'opinions' up with links to facts. What - other than your own opinion - are you bringing to the table?
Facts ... biggest lol of the day :)
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.07.06 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: Yarrrrrhh on 06/07/2011 12:52:01
Originally by: Prince Kobol
Facts ... biggest lol of the day :)
Let me define 'facts' for you.
I consider 'facts' to be the things that people at CCP say and which CCP PR or they themselves have not denied after they became public.
If they say something and don't deny it, then I consider it a fact.
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2011.07.06 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
Originally by: Prince Kobol
Facts ... biggest lol of the day :)
Let me define 'facts' for you.
I consider 'facts' to be the things that people at CCP and which CCP PR or they themselves have denied later on.
If they say something and don't deny it, then I consider it a fact.
please stop it.. I don't think I can take much more... tears of laughter here :)
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.07.06 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Prince Kobol
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
Originally by: Prince Kobol
Facts ... biggest lol of the day :)
Let me define 'facts' for you.
I consider 'facts' to be the things that people at CCP and which CCP PR or they themselves have denied later on.
If they say something and don't deny it, then I consider it a fact.
please stop it.. I don't think I can take much more... tears of laughter here :)
Thank you, just wanted to make absolutely sure to everyone reading this that you're a troll.
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Cashcow Golden Goose
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Posted - 2011.07.06 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: Cashcow Golden Goose on 06/07/2011 12:57:38 It's not game breaking to sell a Federation Navy Erebus for $1000 IF all players have equal opportunity to spend $1000 on a Federation Navy Erebus. In fact, it's balanced. What could be more balanced than everybody being offered the same opportunity to spend their rent money on a non game breaking space ship?
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2011.07.06 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
Originally by: Prince Kobol
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
Originally by: Prince Kobol
Facts ... biggest lol of the day :)
Let me define 'facts' for you.
I consider 'facts' to be the things that people at CCP and which CCP PR or they themselves have denied later on.
If they say something and don't deny it, then I consider it a fact.
please stop it.. I don't think I can take much more... tears of laughter here :)
Thank you, just wanted to make absolutely sure to everyone reading this that you're a troll.
Not trolling, just find you laughable :)
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.07.06 12:59:00 -
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If that ship has better stats than a regular Erebus and CCP literally spawns it out of thin air it is unbalanced because it destroys the ingame titan market since industrialists cannot compete with CCP.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: Deviana Sevidon on 06/07/2011 13:03:47
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
If they say something and don't deny it, then I consider it a fact.
'They' is difficult to define. One CCP employee said something and another CCP employee and probably a number of them has a different opinion. Yet, you insist in what the first employee said and it was just an idea thrown into the room at the time, is the official stance of CCP. Even when you had your official answer that nothing like this is intended, you claim they are lying.
Your 'logic' works only because see only what you want to see and ignore all other information, or claim they are 'lies'.
Edit:
People like you are also the main reason why a lot of companies discourage their employees to voice an opinion in a public forum. Because you take their words out of the context they are written in and treat anything a person said as 'official', which it is not.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Cashcow Golden Goose
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh If that ship has better stats than a regular Erebus and CCP literally spawns it out of thin air it is unbalanced because it destroys the ingame titan market since industrialists cannot compete with CCP.
So we just have Industrialists buy their stuff for $1000 too. See, balance is restored. Everybody pays, everybody wins. That's not just balance, that's CCP Balance, Hilmar "Mittani" Petersen Bank Balance.
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Cashcow Golden Goose
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh If that ship has better stats than a regular Erebus and CCP literally spawns it out of thin air it is unbalanced because it destroys the ingame titan market since industrialists cannot compete with CCP.
So we just have Industrialists buy their stuff for $1000 too. See, balance is restored. Everybody pays, everybody wins. That's not just balance, that's CCP Balance, Hilmar "Mittani" Petersen Bank Balance.
You've got a point there. **** that kind of balance though.
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
People like you are also the main reason why a lot of companies discourage their employees to voice an opinion in a public forum. Because you take their words out of the context they are written in and treat anything a person said as 'official', which it is not.
You seriously need to look up the word 'context'. Because I don't think you really know what it means.
I'm not quoting out of context.
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
People like you are also the main reason why a lot of companies discourage their employees to voice an opinion in a public forum. Because you take their words out of the context they are written in and treat anything a person said as 'official', which it is not.
You seriously need to look up the word 'context'. Because I don't think you really know what it means.
I'm not quoting out of context.
okay then.. post the entire conversation where you have selectively picked from
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Prince Kobol
okay then.. post the entire conversation where you have selectively picked from
Interaction with you to an extent that goes beyond insults is a waste of everyone's time.
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
Originally by: Prince Kobol
okay then.. post the entire conversation where you have selectively picked from
Interaction with you to an extent that goes beyond insults is a waste of everyone's time.
In other words.. No I will not display the entire transcript where I selective pick sentences from because it shows me to be wrong.
Thank you :)
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Cashcow Golden Goose
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Prince Kobol
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
Originally by: Prince Kobol
okay then.. post the entire conversation where you have selectively picked from
Interaction with you to an extent that goes beyond insults is a waste of everyone's time.
In other words.. No I will not display the entire transcript where I selective pick sentences from because it shows me to be wrong.
Thank you :)
The conversations are already posted, that's where the quotes are picked from. It's not for anybody to repost entire conversations because they are bringing highlight to any particular issue. The context may be acquired by anybody who cares enough to go and get the context for themselves. Quoting is a recognised form of conversational debate and has been ever since humans invented language. People using quotes and inviting you to verify the veracity of the quotes for yourself does not make them automatically wrong, additionally it never will.
If there is some part of this you do not understand, please do not hesitate to ask for clarification.
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:28:00 -
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I wouldn't say I'm upset. But I have unsubbed. And the reason is because CCP has not put out a decent expansion in two years and it doesn't look like they will.
More than a few others expressed concerns about this as well.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:38:00 -
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Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 06/07/2011 13:38:21
Originally by: San Severina expect to get your balls trolled of by throw away ALTS & Fanbois. Enjoy
You mean like how we just got our balls trolled by a throw-away alt and anti-CCP OP?
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Antraman
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:44:00 -
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Edited by: Antraman on 06/07/2011 13:51:12
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh Edited by: Yarrrrrhh on 06/07/2011 12:41:05 Here's an incomplete list of CCP's atrocious failures of the last few months. I thought it might be useful for anyone who doesn't know why the community is so upset (newer players and journalists).
1. Demanding 99$ a year from developers for a service they provide for free.
Wasn't the $99 per year fee *only* be charged to developers who either charge or accept donations for the services they provide?
Sites that don't charge fees or accept donations but use CCP IP only need to sign a non-commercial license, which I am guessing, does not incur the $99 a year fee. I dunno, I might be misreading the dev blog wrong....
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:47:00 -
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Edited by: Yarrrrrhh on 06/07/2011 13:46:56
Originally by: Antraman
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh Edited by: Yarrrrrhh on 06/07/2011 12:41:05 Here's an incomplete list of CCP's atrocious failures of the last few months. I thought it might be useful for anyone who doesn't know why the community is so upset (newer players and journalists).
1. Demanding 99$ a year from developers for a service they provide for free.
Wasn't the $99 per year fee *only* charged to developers who either charge or accept donations for the services they provide?
Sites that don't charge fees or accept donations but use CCP IP only need to sign a non-commercial license, which I am guessing, does not incur the $99 a year fee. I dunno, I might be misreading the dev blog wrong....
The issue with that was that is impossible to clearly define what a 'donation' is and therefore to be legally on the safe side every developer would probably have to pay the fee.
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Hakkar'al Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh troll.
Chopped it a bit to make the intent of this thread clear.
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Valarian Blacksun
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:56:00 -
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i hope the people responsible for this at CCP, gets fired.
This is horrible and ruining eve for me. i have canceled my accounts. but am bitter has hell becouse i invested like 2 years in this game
**** YOU CCP
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Important Person
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
would probably
More hard hitting facts.
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Antraman
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh Edited by: Yarrrrrhh on 06/07/2011 13:46:56
Originally by: Antraman
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh Edited by: Yarrrrrhh on 06/07/2011 12:41:05 Here's an incomplete list of CCP's atrocious failures of the last few months. I thought it might be useful for anyone who doesn't know why the community is so upset (newer players and journalists).
1. Demanding 99$ a year from developers for a service they provide for free.
Wasn't the $99 per year fee *only* charged to developers who either charge or accept donations for the services they provide?
Sites that don't charge fees or accept donations but use CCP IP only need to sign a non-commercial license, which I am guessing, does not incur the $99 a year fee. I dunno, I might be misreading the dev blog wrong....
The issue with that was that is impossible to clearly define what a 'donation' is and therefore to be legally on the safe side every developer would probably have to pay the fee.
Well if the 3rd party developer had a paypal donate button on their site, it is clearly accepting donations, and if there is no links or buttons for donations then the developer couldn't be accused of accepting donations...
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: Yarrrrrhh on 06/07/2011 14:06:54
Originally by: Antraman
Well if the 3rd party developer had a paypal donate button on their site, it is clearly accepting donations, and if there is no links or buttons for donations then the developer couldn't be accused of accepting donations...
Imagine I don't like your free site. I therefore transfer you 100 million ISK, take a screenshot of it, send it to CCP.
You've just received a donation of 100 million ISK and need to lawyer up.
I think that was the way Chribba argumented concerning that issue.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:10:00 -
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1. If you had kept up you'd know that was scrapped again. Will come at a proper "token" amount. 2. All graphics upgrades to an existing system cause conflicts, so far all done in Eve have been sorted a few months in .. would be optimal if you revamped the entire client in one go but I doubt people want to down 3-4Gigs every few years and suffer several day long DTs. 4. So? You probably have an iPod/iPhone even though they are really, really crappy compared to alternatives .. it is called vanity. 5. See above, plus My guesstimate is that AUR will be needed for Dusties as the main source of MT, so getting it smooth in time for launch is a good idea. 6. No comment. Fairly infrequent so expect it will be sorted in time, until then I'll live without CQ. 7. What bonuses? **** like that gets broken all the time due to the stupidly complex mesh of old/new code. Modules applying after being removed, infini-tracking in worms etc. (see #2). 8. If you were Steve Jobs, would you give a rats arse about customers moaning about pricing if you knew that they'd indulge all the same? Exactly the same thing. 9. *sigh* Internal newsletters are not in fact corporate policy. Work in any office will teach you that, it would be like a college campus rumour rag being taken at face value. 10+11. Fearless is as I understand it the title of the newsletter itself and not the single edition I (we) am privy to. Do you think that perhaps the topic has been included in earlier editions or does your paranoia prevent that realisation? 12. As much I loathe to give Kittens any credit, his side-lining of BitterVets (like me) is very appropriate. Most of us are so blinded by our 20/20 hindsight and our longing for the good old days that we can't see anything new as improvements and thus keep yelling for stuff that won't work any more given the size of Eve at present. 13. With proper planning (thank you EveMON team!) extra remapping is a luxury, why not allow people to add 1-2 remaps per annum in exchange for cash? Not gamebreaking as such, but does definitely benefit the "Min/Max ASAP!1111" crowd. Had I access to remaps on demand I could conceivably shave off one week of skill time on a years worth, ie. <2% .. advantage surely, but hardly gamebreaking.
PS: Remember to recycle the Tinfoil when you are done with the hat, wrecks havoc when left in nature.
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida stuff
You've just defended CCP on THIRTEEN MAJOR ****UPS in the last months. Thirteen.
I'm not just criticizing the failures but also that there's so many. When developers have lost touch with a large part of their players then that is usually the end of every game.
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