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ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group The Veerhouven Group
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Posted - 2011.07.13 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander
6. Open the can and grab the ore and IMMEDIATELY hit the dock button for the station. With luck you will get away with the ore.
This is a stupid way to lose a ship. I'm surprised that Tau suggested it.
Two of the many things that can go wrong are a Stealth Bomber with torpedoes and a chance re-visit from the can flipper.
The first thing to remember is that most can flippers could care less about your ore. They want to salvage your ship.
Also remember there are very few things that fit in a Cargo Container that are worth trading a mining ship for and ore isn't one of them.
If you can't find a hauler to work with you, can flipping becomes a business expense. Try to keep it as inexpensive as possible.
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Mintala Arana
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.07.13 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: ACY GTMI
Originally by: Tau Cabalander
6. Open the can and grab the ore and IMMEDIATELY hit the dock button for the station. With luck you will get away with the ore.
This is a stupid way to lose a ship. I'm surprised that Tau suggested it.
mmm, you're pre-aligned and already at minimum speed to enter warp when you grab the ore. Figure between 1 and 1.5 seconds for the whole thing.
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foksieloy
Minmatar Rockets ponies and rainbows
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Posted - 2011.07.13 12:41:00 -
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Lag might cause you to die anyway. I wouldn't consider it worth the risk.
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Mintala Arana
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.07.13 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: foksieloy Lag might cause you to die anyway. I wouldn't consider it worth the risk.
Now, having a battlehulk with neuts and drones... :)
Mmm, don't think I agree with you here. An Iteron with 2x Expanded Cargohold I fitted will hold comfortably more veldspar than the ship itself is worth, even before you take into account skill bonuses to cargo capacity.
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Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.07.13 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Shellback Wilson This is the first one. I did nothing but watched it happen: 2011.07.01 16:37:00
Victim: Polywog Wilson Corp: State Protectorate Alliance: Unknown Faction: Caldari State Destroyed: Osprey System: Haatomo Security: 0.6 Damage Taken: 2900
Involved parties:
Name: Tommbo (laid the final blow) Security: 3.6 Corp: Quantum Cats Syndicate Alliance: NONE Faction: Gallente Federation Ship: Cyclone Weapon: 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II Damage Done: 2900
haha...fw ....You signed yourself up to be in faction warfare. Permanently war deced by other 2 factions.
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ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group The Veerhouven Group
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Posted - 2011.07.14 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Mintala Arana
Originally by: ACY GTMI
Originally by: Tau Cabalander
6. Open the can and grab the ore and IMMEDIATELY hit the dock button for the station. With luck you will get away with the ore.
This is a stupid way to lose a ship. I'm surprised that Tau suggested it.
mmm, you're pre-aligned and already at minimum speed to enter warp when you grab the ore. Figure between 1 and 1.5 seconds for the whole thing.
Sure, you can get away with it. maybe more than once, but why bother? Why take the chance for some ore that is worth about the same amount as the industrial?
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Starnap
Concentrated Evil
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Posted - 2011.07.14 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: ACY GTMI
Originally by: Mintala Arana
Originally by: ACY GTMI
Originally by: Tau Cabalander
6. Open the can and grab the ore and IMMEDIATELY hit the dock button for the station. With luck you will get away with the ore.
This is a stupid way to lose a ship. I'm surprised that Tau suggested it.
mmm, you're pre-aligned and already at minimum speed to enter warp when you grab the ore. Figure between 1 and 1.5 seconds for the whole thing.
Sure, you can get away with it. maybe more than once, but why bother? Why take the chance for some ore that is worth about the same amount as the industrial?
In my experience this trick works pretty well. So long as the hauler aligns before grabbing the ore, they'll warp instantly. Often my overview doesn't even register that they are red before they're gone
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2011.07.15 11:52:00 -
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Basically you are being blown up for taking back your own ore after you get can flipped.
1. You are mining 2. Someone flips your can 3. They go red 4. You can (optional) shoot at them 5. They can't shoot at you without Concord killing them back 6. You take back the ore in your can 7. Now suddenly the system sees YOU as the ore thief 8. You are red to whoever flipped your can 9. They blow you up
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Bilge Wilson
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Posted - 2011.07.24 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher7
Basically you are being blown up for taking back your own ore after you get can flipped.
1. You are mining 2. Someone flips your can 3. They go red 4. You can (optional) shoot at them 5. They can't shoot at you without Concord killing them back 6. You take back the ore in your can 7. Now suddenly the system sees YOU as the ore thief 8. You are red to whoever flipped your can 9. They blow you up
I'm the OP....
No as others have said I had inadvertantly joined the milita not knowing that it would flag me for PVP. I solved that by joing a hi sec Mining Corp but just now My retreiver and Mark II Badger were blown up and I was pod killed on both pilots.
I almost got out of there on the Badger but didn't make it.
This was a sucide I assume because I wasn't at war and no no no there was no can flipping invloved. I use anchored GSC's in .6 space but I left the syetem to go to my clones so fast I couldn't read local chat. The pilot used a typhoon to kill me.
Mark II Badger kill
2011.07.24 05:45:00
Victim: Bilge Wilson Corp: Shadowfire Enterprises Alliance: Rura-Penthe Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Badger Mark II System: Ikao Security: 0.6 Damage Taken: 1796
Involved parties:
Name: Attias Gates (laid the final blow) Security: 3.7 Corp: Dead Nation Industries Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Ship: Typhoon Weapon: Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I Damage Done: 1796
Destroyed items:
Passive Barrier Compensator I 1MN MicroWarpdrive I Expanded Cargohold II, Qty: 2 Medium Cargohold Optimization I, Qty: 3 Salvager I Scorched Telemetry Processor, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Giant Secure Container (Cargo) Concentrated Veldspar, Qty: 5665 (In Container) Giant Secure Container (Cargo) Veldspar, Qty: 17420 (In Container) Concentrated Veldspar, Qty: 21579 (In Container) Giant Secure Container (Cargo) Concentrated Veldspar, Qty: 18533 (In Container) Veldspar, Qty: 20466 (In Container)
Dropped items:
Expanded Cargohold II Asymmetric Energy Succor I (Cargo) Small Shield Booster I Small Hull Repairer I (Cargo) Burned Logic Circuit, Qty: 7 (Cargo) Malfunctioning Shield Emitter (Cargo) Small Tractor Beam I Remote Sensor Dampener I (Cargo) Giant Secure Container (Cargo) Veldspar, Qty: 30189 (In Container) Concentrated Veldspar, Qty: 8810 (In Container) Giant Secure Container (Cargo) Giant Secure Container (Cargo) Concentrated Veldspar, Qty: 21199 (In Container) Scordite, Qty: 11867 (In Container)
POD kill on Badger Pilot
2011.07.24 05:46:00
Victim: Bilge Wilson Corp: Shadowfire Enterprises Alliance: Rura-Penthe Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Capsule System: Ikao Security: 0.6 Damage Taken: 242
Involved parties:
Name: Attias Gates (laid the final blow) Security: -1.7 Corp: Dead Nation Industries Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Ship: Typhoon Weapon: Large 'Vehemence' I Shockwave Charge Damage Done: 242
Retreiver Kill
2011.07.24 05:45:00
Victim: Polywog Wilson Corp: Shadowfire Enterprises Alliance: Rura-Penthe Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Retriever System: Ikao Security: 0.6 Damage Taken: 1455
Involved parties:
Name: Attias Gates (laid the final blow) Security: 4.2 Corp: Dead Nation Industries Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Ship: Typhoon Weapon: Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I Damage Done: 1337
Name: Thorn Rocket / Guristas Damage Done: 118
Destroyed items:
Expanded Cargohold II, Qty: 2 Veldspar, Qty: 10314 (Cargo) Medium Cargohold Optimization I Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I, Qty: 2 Warrior I (Drone Bay) Strip Miner I, Qty: 2
Dropped items:
Residual Survey Scanner I Warrior I, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay)
Retreiver pilot POD Kill
2011.07.24 05:46:00
Victim: Polywog Wilson Corp: Shadowfire Enterprises Alliance: Rura-Penthe Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Capsule System: Ikao Security: 0.6 Damage Taken: 242
Involved parties:
Name: Attias Gates (laid the final blow) Security: -1.7 Corp: Dead Nation Industries Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Ship: Typhoon Weapon: Large 'Vehemence' I Shockwave Charge Damage Do
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Bilge Wilson
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Posted - 2011.07.24 06:35:00 -
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Yeah, Corp mates confirmed it was a sucide, he was boating in Local about being flush with ISK and could afford to lose the ship.
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Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.24 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Wa'roun
Originally by: Shellback Wilson This is the first one. I did nothing but watched it happen: 2011.07.01 16:37:00
Victim: Polywog Wilson Corp: State Protectorate Alliance: Unknown Faction: Caldari State Destroyed: Osprey System: Haatomo Security: 0.6 Damage Taken: 2900
Involved parties:
Name: Tommbo (laid the final blow) Security: 3.6 Corp: Quantum Cats Syndicate Alliance: NONE Faction: Gallente Federation Ship: Cyclone Weapon: 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II Damage Done: 2900
haha...fw ....You signed yourself up to be in faction warfare. Permanently war deced by other 2 factions.
You literally just ruined his troll thread.
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Bilge Wilson
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Posted - 2011.07.24 06:44:00 -
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Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Originally by: Wa'roun
Originally by: Shellback Wilson This is the first one. I did nothing but watched it happen: 2011.07.01 16:37:00
haha...fw ....You signed yourself up to be in faction warfare. Permanently war deced by other 2 factions.
You literally just ruined his troll thread.
What does 'Permanently war Deced' mean? Since I joined the milita I'm permanent at war even though I left it and joined a Corp not at war with anyone?
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