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Alara IonStorm
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.09 13:16:00 -
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The biggest thing is not being War Dec Bait, if your Corp is 30 members with a Red filled Killboard full of Lol Fits that there Corp Discription says we hate PVP Industry ROXORZ no Pirates or Shooting EVER Mature Players Only!!! Chances are your catching a Dec the moment a War Corp spots you.
A Corp with positive Killboard that does Low Sec Roams or Whatever will help, you might even want to join one of them. A lot of Corps do a Mix of PVE and PVP because forsaking one or the other just cuts you out of the Content. Most Slaved Vindi, T3 with Nuetral RR Corps won't bother with a Corp smart enough not to undock into Neutrons and Artillery, Gets there Newbs into Chat Channel Corps and Runs Fleets. Bigger Corps who don't mind facing a Corp that fights back won't bother with a medium Sized Corp so they don't waste there 15th Super Expensive War if you have 10-30 people Online through out the day.
Picking a Corp to play with is like anything else, check them out and see if they are good. These are the people you want to learn from anyway. If they are Failures at the game then you will be learning nothing of value from them. Understanding the Mechanmics is more valuable then anything, you would be suprised to know there is a Loophole for everything, you just gotta find it.
Stick around and learn the game.
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.07.09 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: vetzorz I really like the idea of a space mmo where you fly around in spaceships with friends and blast aliens but it order to that, you have to join a player corp. Well, I have been trying to join a corp and maybe do PVE missions with corp mates but all the player corps I've joined gets war decced. It's always a massacre. Every time, we undock, the other guys blows us to smithereens.
I really like eve but I wish they have a PVE option for people who don't want PVP forced down their throats like me.
Unfortunately, my friend that is not the way Eve works. As a person that didn't like PVP to begin with I've come to enjoy aspects of it. But, it took me moving out of hisec, realizing good profits elsewhere in the game and learning the art of PVP.
It's completely understandable that if you don't know how PVP works, you're not going to enjoy it. Even if you learn how it works, if you can't afford it, you're not going to enjoy it. Both of those conditions can be resolved by moving out of hisec. If you want to know more please feel free to contact me. |
Solosky
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Posted - 2011.07.09 13:27:00 -
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In Soviet EVE, game plays you! |
Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
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Posted - 2011.07.09 14:06:00 -
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I agree that Eve pvp can be a bit harsh on a new player, especially if they come from one of the more hand-holding type mmo's. But don't despair OP, there are many solutions. For one thing, I'd bet your corp is based in a popular area. Just being a little off the beaten path will avoid many of those wardecs. There are many ways to respond to a wardec. Undocking into a waiting enemy's ambush is not one of the better ideas. There have been a few good suggestions in here (and lots of troll comments), and with a bit of looking you can find a lot more. Feel free to contact me in-game and I'd be happy to share some ideas to improve your experience. You don't realize it now, but the pvp aspect of Eve really makes it a great game, even for people that don't focus on blowing up other people's ships as part of their gameplay. |
Fore Khaos
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Posted - 2011.07.09 15:13:00 -
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To be fair, CCP never puts war decs in their trailers...wonder why?
Oh wait..."I was there, we spent five hours playing station games and talking smack" kind of anti-climatic. |
Demon Azrakel
Gallente Defiant.. Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.07.09 15:20:00 -
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For people who say the pvp aspect is not properly advertized, if I recall, all the ads are about PvP and cold, harsh universe.... |
Fractal Muse
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Posted - 2011.07.09 15:38:00 -
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To the OP, if you haven't already left or if you are not a troll, take a moment and review the corps you have joined. There is likely a pattern in them.
There is a very strong pve element to EVE online and you can play PVE exclusively if you wish. For example, you could stay in an NPC corp that cannot be war-dec'd.
Or, you could join a -strong- PVE corp that has the assets to bust up any war dec on them by, at the very least, hiring mercenaries to handle the situation for them.
Just because you've had the misfortune of joining weak corps doesn't mean that the game does not contain what it is you seek.
One other thought, go join a 0.0 carebear corp. There are plenty of them out there. |
Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.07.09 15:47:00 -
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Join Eve University and learn how to play the game in PvE and PvP. When you can afford it, take Agony Unleashed pvp classes. If you must PvE you can always stay in the NPC corps. |
Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.07.09 16:06:00 -
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Join EVE university or a WH corp! |
Wangston Hughes
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Posted - 2011.07.09 16:11:00 -
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Ahahaha |
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Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2011.07.09 16:16:00 -
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Edited by: Jhagiti Tyran on 09/07/2011 16:29:22
Originally by: vetzorz I really like the idea of a space mmo where you fly around in spaceships with friends and blast aliens but it order to that, you have to join a player corp. Well, I have been trying to join a corp and maybe do PVE missions with corp mates but all the player corps I've joined gets war decced. It's always a massacre. Every time, we undock, the other guys blows us to smithereens.
I really like eve but I wish they have a PVE option for people who don't want PVP forced down their throats like me.
Want other players to stop forcing ship destruction pvp down your throat stop forcing market & resource competition pvp down their throats. Everything you do in the game affects someone else, if you earn LP you add to the devaluation of the LP for someone else, if you scoop mods as loot again that adds to the devaluation of that item, any buy orders you place means someone might buy your item instead of from someone else's orders. The list could go on and on.
Getting mad and crying "I wasn't hurting anyone and minding my own business" is no defense in EVE online because everything you do is in a very literal sense is somebody else's business. |
Cregg Neir
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Posted - 2011.07.09 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Noceur-01 Tiers
Originally by: ACY GTMI Edited by: ACY GTMI on 09/07/2011 11:51:43
Originally by: Noceur-01 Tiers It's interesting that people join this game and expect to not get wardecd. ;o
There's nothing in the promotional material about war decs. Go figure.
And it isn't necessarily common sense to try to find out if a GAME that purports to be the first step in a full immersion space simulation is going to turn into an endless round of virtual deaths.
Only stupid people buy stuff, don't bother to check what it is they are buying just to complain. I knew exactly what I was in for when I started, how hard is it to google and read?
Takes a real jerk to post three times on a thread to insist that the OP is dumb when the OP is simply making a valid comment about the game. Who cares how much product research you do? What's stupid in the world is people who behave like you do, going out of your way to judge somebody else when they're simply making a comment. Why don't YOU find another game? |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.07.09 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Abdiel Kavash Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 09/07/2011 13:09:12
Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Noceur-01 Tiers It's interesting that people join this game and expect to not get wardecd. ;o
In all fariness, it isn't exactly advertised.
Which of the last (N) trailers didn't have people shooting at each other in them?
Oh, the one with the dude disbanding his own alliance and stealing all of their stuffs.
OP: you're right, EVE is not for you. Save yourself a year of your life and go play another game. (No this is not meant in an ironic way. EVE is a game about shooting people. If you don't like shooting people, it's not the game for you.)
no, he got pwnt by the guys he infiltrated right at the beginning. |
EpicFailTroll
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Posted - 2011.07.09 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
Want other players to stop forcing ship destruction pvp down your throat stop forcing market & resource competition pvp down their throats. Everything you do in the game affects someone else, if you earn LP you add to the devaluation of the LP for someone else, if you scoop mods as loot again that adds to the devaluation of that item, any buy orders you place means someone might buy your item instead of from someone else's orders. The list could go on and on.
Getting mad and crying "I wasn't hurting anyone and minding my own business" is no defense in EVE online because everything you do is in a very literal sense is somebody else's business.
Your reasoning(?) is ludicrous. When someone is being polite to another, would you argue that their being gentlemanly is a direct insult to the jerks worldwide, that it's an act of attrition against said jerks, and that calls for response?
There are quite a lot of people who like to interact with others on a level of general trust and respect, who don't actively engage in cheesy pvp or 0.1 isk market wars. That the game caters to their exact opposite is kind of disheartening but then again it gives EFT ample opportunity to ridicule them, such as here when responding to you.
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Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2011.07.09 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: EpicFailTroll
Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran Want other players to stop forcing ship destruction pvp down your throat stop forcing market & resource competition pvp down their throats. Everything you do in the game affects someone else, if you earn LP you add to the devaluation of the LP for someone else, if you scoop mods as loot again that adds to the devaluation of that item, any buy orders you place means someone might buy your item instead of from someone else's orders. The list could go on and on.
Getting mad and crying "I wasn't hurting anyone and minding my own business" is no defense in EVE online because everything you do is in a very literal sense is somebody else's business.
Your reasoning(?) is ludicrous. When someone is being polite to another, would you argue that their being gentlemanly is a direct insult to the jerks worldwide, that it's an act of attrition against said jerks, and that calls for response?
There are quite a lot of people who like to interact with others on a level of general trust and respect, who don't actively engage in cheesy pvp or 0.1 isk market wars. That the game caters to their exact opposite is kind of disheartening but then again it gives EFT ample opportunity to ridicule them, such as here when responding to you.
So? I was merely pointing out that you cannot expect to pve in peace and pvpers to leave you alone because you believe you are minding your own business. I don't see what is ludicrous about that point, it goes without saying that some people gank other people without any direct reason but still somebody who "just wants to pve" is still affecting their game so why shouldn't the pvper affect theirs? |
Mintala Arana
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.07.09 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: EpicFailTroll Your reasoning(?) is ludicrous.
And your toon's name is apropos. Insult for insult, tit for tat. (Very EVE, all in all. )
As for PvP, CCP is very clear on this point. Every aspect of EVE involves player versus player competition, and there is no place that can be considered entirely safe. CCP wants the game to be this way, so yes, there are players who will do every vile thing you can imagine that the game mechanics allow: can flipping, suicide ganks, scams of every stripe, etc. You consent to their actions by playing the game. If you don't like what they do, you can fight back in whatever fashion seems best to you (possibly just by being passive and ignoring them to deny them "tears", possibly by shooting them until their ship explodes). And if you aren't willing to accept the game on the developers' terms, then "WoW is that way, can I haz your stuffz?" |
tikktokk tokkzikk
STORM Squad
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Posted - 2011.07.09 20:03:00 -
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corps such as "the carebears" are doomed to get perma-dec'd!
join a (highsec?) PvP corp that also support PvE. griefers will think twice about dec'ing someone that can fight back.
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Victor Vangelis
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Posted - 2011.07.09 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Noceur-01 Tiers
Originally by: ACY GTMI Edited by: ACY GTMI on 09/07/2011 11:51:43
Originally by: Noceur-01 Tiers It's interesting that people join this game and expect to not get wardecd. ;o
There's nothing in the promotional material about war decs. Go figure.
And it isn't necessarily common sense to try to find out if a GAME that purports to be the first step in a full immersion space simulation is going to turn into an endless round of virtual deaths.
Only stupid people buy stuff, don't bother to check what it is they are buying just to complain. I knew exactly what I was in for when I started, how hard is it to google and read?
This^ Get out we dont want moron's looking for "aliens" to kill. |
Gogenchu
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.09 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: vetzorz all the player corps I've joined gets war decced
Maybe it's just you |
EpicFailTroll
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Posted - 2011.07.09 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Mintala Arana
Originally by: EpicFailTroll If you don't like what they do, you can fight back in whatever fashion seems best to you (possibly just by being passive and ignoring them to deny them "tears", possibly by shooting them until their ship explodes). And if you aren't willing to accept the game on the developers' terms, then "WoW is that way, can I haz your stuffz?"
Ignoring works best, but it's bland gameplay. Fighting back involves the griefer engaging on semi-equal grounds, which never happens since he's only out to make someone mad over the internet, and is not interested in ingame pvp itself. This game thrives for one part on a population of online sociopaths using this game as a means to an end (the "tears"), and not as an end in itself.
This is what some people are a bit dismayed about, since they just want to play a game and not a metagame. |
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Portmanteau
Gallente CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.07.09 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: vetzorz
I really like eve but I wish they have a PVE option for people who don't want PVP forced down their throats like me.
Then you don't really like eve do you... |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2011.07.09 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Noceur-01 Tiers It's interesting that people join this game and expect to not get wardecd. ;o
In all fariness, it isn't exactly advertised.
In all fairness the majority of corps don't get war decced. |
Slymah
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.09 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Slymah on 09/07/2011 21:01:33 Take Dante's advice before you quit!
Setting up your overview and taking basic precautions will change EVERYTHING. You never know, sometimes all it takes is one kill to send you spiraling into a bloodthirsty destroyer of worlds.
Freedom is what makes this game so fun. Freedom to destroy or be destroyed.
Get one kill before you quit, until then you will never really know.
edit: Another option is to join Eve University or another "school" type corp to learn the ropes. |
Flynn Fetladral
Caldari BlackSite Prophecy
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Posted - 2011.07.09 21:28:00 -
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Trollololol? |
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