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Oxylan
Fuss Roo Dah
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Posted - 2012.09.18 01:52:00 -
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Hi CCP
CCP please imagine all of your CCP members are not CCP employe,they just normal players who love EvE, SF themes and own characters, you have to agree with me, you would hate fact that every account is restricted because players can train only one character at once, while they got abbility to create and use three characters per account.
Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
This horrible restriction show that your company is very gredy, and tell to player want new alt made a secont account!!! I know Buissnes is buissnes and your company must grow, but come on...
This just most worse part of EvE, i got some seven years old character on my account with like 0 skill poibts because i focus only on main, in fact they can be terminated and biomased and replaced with new one who is one day long, because here no difirence betwen them.
CCP please answer to me, honest, what the point of three character per account while only one as (main) got sense for average player... Maybe because of jita price cheker as bonus ? ;)
Ps. Sorry for my horible grammar, English isynt my native language. If it bleed we can kill it. |
Karn Dulake
Sad Flutes
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Posted - 2012.09.18 01:56:00 -
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This is not those games mate
Also
1. Main 2. Builder/Trader 3. Suicide Ganker
What more do you need I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Din Chao
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
96
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:00:00 -
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How do you train multiple WoW characters at the same time? You must have extra hands or sumthin' |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:00:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:This is not those games mate
Also
1. Main 2. Builder/Trader 3. Suicide Ganker
What more do you need
I have a main, a carebear, and some guy "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |
Touval Lysander
Combat Recon Group
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:02:00 -
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Oxylan wrote:Hi CCP
CCP please imagine all of your CCP members are not CCP employe,they just normal players who love EvE, SF themes and own characters, you have to agree with me, you would hate fact that every account is restricted because players can train only one character at once, while they got abbility to create and use three characters per account.
Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
This horrible restriction show that your company is very gredy, and tell to player want new alt made a secont account!!! I know Buissnes is buissnes and your company must grow, but come on...
This just most worse part of EvE, i got some seven years old character on my account with like 0 skill poibts because i focus only on main, in fact they can be terminated and biomased and replaced with new one who is one day long, because here no difirence betwen them.
CCP please answer to me, honest, what the point of three character per account while only one as (main) got sense for average player... Maybe because of jita price cheker as bonus ? ;)
Ps. Sorry for my horible grammar, English isynt my native language. would 3 chars make your post 3 times easier to understand wtf you're griping about, or more importantly - why? |
Alexzandvar Douglass
NUTS AND BOLTS MANUFACTURING En Garde
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:03:00 -
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So even Dolan is trolling the General Discussion forums now?
CCP pls. |
To mare
Advanced Technology
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:03:00 -
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1 main 2 forum alt 3 hauler |
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:05:00 -
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You can train more than one character, but you'll have to pay extra $$ or PLEX each month to pay for it.
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Nex apparatu5
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:09:00 -
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Main and two cyno alts. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:10:00 -
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I agree with the OP, the worst thing about this game I've found so far in my opinion is the fact that I can only train one character at a time. With this time based training system it would take me ages to properly train three specialized characters if I trained one a few hours, stopped, trained another one a few hours, stopped, trained a third a few hours, etc.
Please change this CCP, not all of us can afford to pay you for multiple accounts just to properly specialize and enjoy multiple types of gameplay. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
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Belshazzar Babylon
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:14:00 -
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Ohh this thread again
Plenty of uses for your other 3 characters. As far as catching up to a seven year player? Its easy. Say it's cruiser vs cruiser only your skills for cruiser, medium guns, and support skills matter in that fight. The rest of his millions of skills matter. |
Hippodamos
hedgie life EvE Consortium
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:19:00 -
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I just dont get when you want, in games like WoW you can only play 1 of the 50 chars you have at a time anyway, dosent that mean you only "train" on 1 at a time too ? |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
325
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:29:00 -
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i wish we could just pay to add 3 more character slots and one more logged in character to an account rather than having to manage multiple accounts |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:34:00 -
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It would be nice if I could pay $20 a month instead of $15 a month to be able to train all three slots at the same time. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:35:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:It would be nice if I could pay $20 a month instead of $15 a month to be able to train all three slots at the same time.
I too would like the character bazaar to begin selling super toons for 10mil. |
Pipa Porto
956
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:51:00 -
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Oxylan wrote:Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
No you don't. I don't think any of those allow you to play multiple characters on one account at once.
You're free to stop training on your EVE character whenever you log out of that character if you prefer the same training restrictions as WOW and the like. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Pipa Porto
956
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:54:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:It would be nice if I could pay $20 a month instead of $15 a month to be able to train all three slots at the same time.
How about $45 a month ($36 a month if purchased annually) plus a $20 upgrade fee each time you turn on a new character's training (to replace the cost of transferring the finished character to your main account after it's done training on the temp account). EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Orzo Torasson
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
64
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Posted - 2012.09.18 03:30:00 -
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When all the other games you mentioned allow you to train up a character without EVEN LOGGING IN, maybe your argument would hold even the tiniest bit of weight.
EVE training is completely passive. Why should you get the ability to level up two extra characters for free with absolutely zero work put in on your side?
Besides, if you were anywhere halfway decent at this game you'd be making more than enough money to easily plex a second account, rendering your silly argument even more obsolete. |
Orzo Torasson
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
64
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Posted - 2012.09.18 03:31:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:Main and two cyno alts.
This is what I use mine for actually |
Momoyo
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.09.18 03:38:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:i wish we could just pay to add 3 more character slots and one more logged in character to an account rather than having to manage multiple accounts
I want this too. CCP has said they are working on account management like that but who knows when they will have that done. |
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Bluddwolf
Heimatar Military Industries
46
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Posted - 2012.09.18 03:45:00 -
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OP.... EVE has been like this for 10 years! Do you think they will change it now?
Part of the great thing about EVE is that you can do everything with just one character. You will never stop learning and doing something new.
There is no "End Game" in EVE because of this! EVE Online Fan ... Looking for "End Game" since 2006 ... Happily, I still havn't found it
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:02:00 -
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You are waaaay too hung up on the amount of skill points your main has.
If you want to explore something different with one of your other slots, for gods sake do it.
The only problem with this game is that it is chock full of obsessive/compulsive people. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Peter Raptor
X-Exclusion-X Massa Interitum
291
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:15:00 -
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I got one account, bout 12 mil sp on one char , 25 mil on the main char,
love having to only grind one plex per month, all good, patience is a virtue Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:15:00 -
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Din Chao wrote:How do you train multiple WoW characters at the same time? You must have extra hands or sumthin' Oh, don't be dense. He's referring to the fact that you hit max level really quickly in games like WoW, thus it's fairly trivial to have multiple max skill toons on one account, which lets the gamer pick their playstyle du jour: DPS one day, Tank the next, and Healer for when you really don't want to spend much time in the dungeon finder queue.
The problem with Eve is that it takes too long to hit the level cap on even one toon. Thus, the real solution is to dramatically speed up training in Eve and to add end game content such as alliance raids to grind gear. Because, let's be honest here, Eve doesn't really start until you hit the level cap at which point you can go backfill your achievements, play the battlegrounds, and raid for those purple item sets.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head. Feature Request: -áDamnation Ship Codpiece-áfor the NeX store.
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Bluddwolf
Heimatar Military Industries
46
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:35:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Din Chao wrote:How do you train multiple WoW characters at the same time? You must have extra hands or sumthin' The problem with Eve is that it takes too long to hit the level cap on even one toon. Thus, the real solution is to dramatically speed up training in Eve and to add end game content such as alliance raids to grind gear. Because, let's be honest here, Eve doesn't really start until you hit the level cap at which point you can go backfill your achievements, play the battlegrounds, and raid for those purple item sets.
"Level Cap??" Do you even play this game?
<----- All of the theme park MMOs are that way, and they all pretty much suck for the same reason. They have a level cap, and boil down to gear centric raid grinding. They all also have "end game" after 6 - 8 months, even causual players have completed them and they end their subscrptions and move on to the next theme park MMO.
EVE has been here for 10 years, because it has no level caps and no "end game". EVE Online Fan ... Looking for "End Game" since 2006 ... Happily, I still havn't found it
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Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
544
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:38:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:1. Main 2. Builder/Trader 3. Suicide Ganker
What more do you need Monkeys! Post with your monkey. |
Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:48:00 -
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Oxylan wrote:
Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
Wait... how the hell you able to log-in and train even just two characters in GW2??? You some kinda hakorz?? Cuz GW2 will only lert me train OOOONE character at a time! I feel SOOOOOOOOOOOO cheated! I'm demanding my moneyz back, naow! Arenanet, damn you! just... damn... you... to... helllll!
<---btw alt training pvp destroyer/combat frigs :P lazy...
ps lol@lvlcap just lol! |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1533
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Posted - 2012.09.18 04:56:00 -
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Oxylan wrote:Hi CCP
CCP please imagine all of your CCP members are not CCP employe,they just normal players who love EvE, SF themes and own characters, you have to agree with me, you would hate fact that every account is restricted because players can train only one character at once, while they got abbility to create and use three characters per account.
Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
This horrible restriction show that your company is very gredy, and tell to player want new alt made a secont account!!! I know Buissnes is buissnes and your company must grow, but come on...
This just most worse part of EvE, i got some seven years old character on my account with like 0 skill poibts because i focus only on main, in fact they can be terminated and biomased and replaced with new one who is one day long, because here no difirence betwen them.
CCP please answer to me, honest, what the point of three character per account while only one as (main) got sense for average player... Maybe because of jita price cheker as bonus ? ;)
Ps. Sorry for my horible grammar, English isynt my native language. Why's Eve any different than those MMOs? when you grind levels for WoW, Lineage, etc. You can only grind them one character at the time right? one to level 30, stop, switch character, second one to level 15, stop, back to one. Same as Eve, train one character, pause, switch character, train second character, pause, back to one.
Eve even have the advantage of not requiring you to log in, at all, to train the skills. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
568
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Posted - 2012.09.18 05:17:00 -
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Oxylan wrote:Hi CCP
CCP please imagine all of your CCP members are not CCP employe,they just normal players who love EvE, SF themes and own characters, you have to agree with me, you would hate fact that every account is restricted because players can train only one character at once, while they got abbility to create and use three characters per account.
Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
This horrible restriction show that your company is very gredy, and tell to player want new alt made a secont account!!! I know Buissnes is buissnes and your company must grow, but come on...
This just most worse part of EvE, i got some seven years old character on my account with like 0 skill poibts because i focus only on main, in fact they can be terminated and biomased and replaced with new one who is one day long, because here no difirence betwen them.
CCP please answer to me, honest, what the point of three character per account while only one as (main) got sense for average player... Maybe because of jita price cheker as bonus ? ;)
Ps. Sorry for my horible grammar, English isynt my native language.
What kind of logic is this?
So while you are on your main, are the rest of the 7 characters earning level, offline?
CCP's way is probably the most viable way that suits the Company AND the players. |
Zeran Kariashi
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.18 05:32:00 -
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I'm with the masses here. Eve is fine as is. If you wanna train another character, get your main to a good skill set up, and then just swap your queue to the other guy and train him while you play your main. Though having multiple accounts helps more in the long run as you can run miner/transport or Attack/salvage as a team and easily rake in enough ISK to cover both accounts without having to deal with the headache of re-logging or heading back to swap ships.
Those other games take in and bleed out players at phenomenal rates as there is a finite amount of progression. They hit the cap and boom, quit until the next expansion/content patch. Eve is a constant progression, with player set goals. It's a completely different style of game to the others.
Eve's only real failing imo, is that there's no real incentive to log in a play once you've reached your quotas for the month, unless you're just using it for it's social interaction. It doesn't matter if you play 1 minute or 20 hours per day for a month, your character still progresses at the same rate. About the only change I might be interested in seeing is adding a 5% bonus to skill gain speed while the character is actively logged in to give extra incentive to play even if you don't have a particular goal in mind. |
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