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MamCieZjemCie
Processor Co Rolling Thunder.
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:02:00 -
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I'm looking for tool, which would plan for me production of rigs, such where you could put how much salvage you got and it would tell you what would be most efficient way to make use of it. |
Lukriss
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
42
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:24:00 -
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If you need to ask this question, you'd probably make more money just selling your salvage. |
Gumby Ambraelle
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:37:00 -
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A tool like this would be awesome. I have alot of salvage also.
My corpmates bring me their salvage and I make rigs that we need as we need them, but still have alot of extra stuff.
This would help to figure out the best way to use the extra salvage for rigs to sell on the market. It is always helpful to offset the cost of fueling towers.... |
AnnaBelle Bartlet
AnnaBelle Farms
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:38:00 -
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Dedaf has a nice manufacturing spreadsheet, complete with rig calculator. I'm not too conversant with the details but there is a pdf file with instructions on the download page.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=8074&find=unread |
MamCieZjemCie
Processor Co Rolling Thunder.
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:43:00 -
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Its just industrial sheet, barely related to question above :( |
Huttan Funaila
222 EVE 2 2 2
19
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Posted - 2012.09.18 17:29:00 -
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I currently have 2 spreadsheets.
One is a cross reference that shows "what can be made from this salvage" with the rows being things like "armor plates", the columns being things like "salvage tackle" and the intersection being an X (if the items are used there). This lets us decide real quick if some salvage items are worth saving or selling: "that item can be used to make X, Y, Z rigs".
The other spreadsheet is more complicated. Each tab is a rig family (such as "armor"). The rows have the type of rig, and the columns are in groups of 3 with what materials are needed in what quantities for large, medium and small rigs. This is also based on the ME levels of the bpo and my skill level.
If I correctly understand what I think you are asking for, you are looking for something where you ask something like "hey, I got 3 armor plates, 2 smashed power units and some bellybutton lint, what is the most valuable doohickey I can make?" To do this, the tool will need to know: 1) what items you have (available) 2) what PE skill you have (available via API) 3) what blueprints you have (available via API) 4) what ME level the blueprints are at (not available via API) 5) what each bp requires (available from the static data) 6) buy/sell prices in various trade hubs (available via web service calls to third party aggregators like eve-marketdata).
It then becomes a simple "operations management" optimization problem. If someone was in an ops management course, this might make a nice term project for them. To make it sufficiently idiot-resistant to distribute as even an open source project would take about 500-1000 hours to make this (I make desktop software for a living).
I don't salvage enough to even consider making such a beastie. I'm too far behind on my day job and university homework even if I did salvage enough. |
AnnaBelle Bartlet
AnnaBelle Farms
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Posted - 2012.09.18 18:08:00 -
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http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/salvage/ - this webpage will give you an idea of what can be made with what type of salvage.
I don't think there is any website that does all your homework for you....
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MamCieZjemCie
Processor Co Rolling Thunder.
10
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Posted - 2012.09.18 20:19:00 -
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Huttan Funaila wrote: If I correctly understand what I think you are asking for, you are looking for something where you ask something like "hey, I got 3 armor plates, 2 smashed power units and some bellybutton lint, what is the most valuable doohickey I can make?" To do this, the tool will need to know: 1) what items you have (available) 2) what PE skill you have (available via API) 3) what blueprints you have (available via API) 4) what ME level the blueprints are at (not available via API) 5) what each bp requires (available from the static data) 6) buy/sell prices in various trade hubs (available via web service calls to third party aggregators like eve-marketdata).
Yup this would be quite close to what I'm looking for just I'm in need of different approach to topic, like I have 100 salvage1 140 salvage2 90 salvage3 and 150 salvage4 Now first rig would require 3 different salvage and I would end with some stock And here is question what to do next as rig, and would it be better to build less of first rig and more of second with salvage I do have. And/Or at end how much rigs to build with what I have. I haven't mention skills as all have have them, also haven't mention BPO as they are cheap and easy to research and most of us have somewhere in corner container with piles of unused cheap BPO's researched in past. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
984
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:13:00 -
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I'm fairly certain I've previously posted a website with a copy-and-paste UI that shows you what you can make.
I'm just too ill to search for my post right now, so have at it. |
Pipa Porto
961
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Posted - 2012.09.19 04:18:00 -
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eve+online+rig+planner
Third Result.
Before you posted this thread it would probably have been the second result. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto
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DaveTheGreat
Mine 'N' Refine The Unforgiven Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.09.19 06:25:00 -
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What about the rig builder inside EVEHQ, it will import the salvage and work out the prices for you..
website |
MamCieZjemCie
Processor Co Rolling Thunder.
10
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Posted - 2012.09.19 15:37:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eve+online+rig+planner
Third Result.
Before you posted this thread it would probably have been the second result.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=brain+surgery+will+it+help+me?#seen
You should check that before posting junk, maybe there is still hope for you. |
Matarella
The Last Call. Black Core Alliance
6
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Posted - 2012.09.19 16:04:00 -
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MamCieZjemCie wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eve+online+rig+planner
Third Result.
Before you posted this thread it would probably have been the second result. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=brain+surgery+will+it+help+me?#seenYou should check that before posting junk, maybe there is still hope for you.
That probably will not help you at all. You are lost. Best you can do is commit suicide. |
Pipa Porto
965
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Posted - 2012.09.19 21:08:00 -
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MamCieZjemCie wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eve+online+rig+planner
Third Result.
Before you posted this thread it would probably have been the second result. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=brain+surgery+will+it+help+me?#seenYou should check that before posting junk, maybe there is still hope for you.
I take it that you didn't bother to actually look and see what the third result down is. If you had, you would have noticed that the website contains the exact thing you asked for. But I suppose that looking at a list of links and clicking on one is hard and you deserve to have other people to cheerfully do your homework for you for free, and that an uncheerful presentation negates the value of any free help you receive. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
MamCieZjemCie
Processor Co Rolling Thunder.
10
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Posted - 2012.09.20 00:36:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:MamCieZjemCie wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eve+online+rig+planner
Third Result.
Before you posted this thread it would probably have been the second result. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=brain+surgery+will+it+help+me?#seenYou should check that before posting junk, maybe there is still hope for you. I take it that you didn't bother to actually look and see what the third result down is. If you had, you would have noticed that the website contains the exact thing you asked for. But I suppose that looking at a list of links and clicking on one is hard and you deserve to have other people to cheerfully do your homework for you for free, and that an uncheerful presentation negates the value of any free help you receive.
Basically problem you have is that in your opinion that you have mouth makes you allowed to speak any dumb thing you want, well m8, here if you try to troll you get punished, next time if you don't have anything to add to topic go play tetris and don't press "post" button, as noone will be "cheerful" for your junk spam as it's nothing more. |
MamCieZjemCie
Processor Co Rolling Thunder.
10
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Posted - 2012.09.20 00:39:00 -
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DaveTheGreat wrote:What about the rig builder inside EVEHQ, it will import the salvage and work out the prices for you.. website
Thanks, this is what I have looked for, now just got to figure out how this all works there. |
Pipa Porto
966
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Posted - 2012.09.20 00:53:00 -
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MamCieZjemCie wrote:Basically problem you have is that in your opinion that you have mouth makes you allowed to speak any dumb thing you want, well m8, here if you try to troll you get punished, next time if you don't have anything to add to topic go play tetris and don't press "post" button, as noone will be "cheerful" for your junk spam as it's nothing more.
Since when is answering your question trolling? EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
386
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Posted - 2012.09.20 01:00:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:MamCieZjemCie wrote:Basically problem you have is that in your opinion that you have mouth makes you allowed to speak any dumb thing you want, well m8, here if you try to troll you get punished, next time if you don't have anything to add to topic go play tetris and don't press "post" button, as noone will be "cheerful" for your junk spam as it's nothing more. Since when is answering your question trolling?
You didn't give him the exact link, get his api for him, input it, and send him an ingame mail telling him what to make ... troll!
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MamCieZjemCie
Processor Co Rolling Thunder.
10
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Posted - 2012.09.20 01:16:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:MamCieZjemCie wrote:Basically problem you have is that in your opinion that you have mouth makes you allowed to speak any dumb thing you want, well m8, here if you try to troll you get punished, next time if you don't have anything to add to topic go play tetris and don't press "post" button, as noone will be "cheerful" for your junk spam as it's nothing more. Since when is answering your question trolling?
When or where did you answer any question? As non in here you trol, go back to wow to play with your mace. |
Pipa Porto
967
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Posted - 2012.09.20 01:56:00 -
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MamCieZjemCie wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:MamCieZjemCie wrote:Basically problem you have is that in your opinion that you have mouth makes you allowed to speak any dumb thing you want, well m8, here if you try to troll you get punished, next time if you don't have anything to add to topic go play tetris and don't press "post" button, as noone will be "cheerful" for your junk spam as it's nothing more. Since when is answering your question trolling? When or where did you answer any question? As non in here you trol, go back to wow to play with your mace.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1940688#post1940688 EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
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MamCieZjemCie
Processor Co Rolling Thunder.
10
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Posted - 2012.09.20 03:41:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:MamCieZjemCie wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:MamCieZjemCie wrote:Basically problem you have is that in your opinion that you have mouth makes you allowed to speak any dumb thing you want, well m8, here if you try to troll you get punished, next time if you don't have anything to add to topic go play tetris and don't press "post" button, as noone will be "cheerful" for your junk spam as it's nothing more. Since when is answering your question trolling? When or where did you answer any question? As non in here you trol, go back to wow to play with your mace. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1940688#post1940688
And? No? Learn to read? |
Pipa Porto
968
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Posted - 2012.09.20 04:10:00 -
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MamCieZjemCie wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:MamCieZjemCie wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:MamCieZjemCie wrote:Basically problem you have is that in your opinion that you have mouth makes you allowed to speak any dumb thing you want, well m8, here if you try to troll you get punished, next time if you don't have anything to add to topic go play tetris and don't press "post" button, as noone will be "cheerful" for your junk spam as it's nothing more. Since when is answering your question trolling? When or where did you answer any question? As non in here you trol, go back to wow to play with your mace. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1940688#post1940688 And? No? Learn to read?
The tool linked in that post allows you to input the salvage you have and lists what you can make out of it. It also allows you to plan your rig building and adjusts the stock that you've input accordingly, allowing you to work out the best blend of rigs for your stock. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Sun Win
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
109
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Posted - 2012.09.20 05:16:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote: The tool linked in that post allows you to input the salvage you have and lists what you can make out of it. It also allows you to plan your rig building and adjusts the stock that you've input accordingly, allowing you to work out the best blend of rigs for your stock.
See there's your problem. What he asked for was "tool, which would plan for me production of rigs, such where you could put how much salvage you got and it would tell you what would be most efficient way to make use of it."
A completely different thing.
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Sun Win
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
109
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Posted - 2012.09.20 05:17:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote: The tool linked in that post allows you to input the salvage you have and lists what you can make out of it. It also allows you to plan your rig building and adjusts the stock that you've input accordingly, allowing you to work out the best blend of rigs for your stock.
See there's your problem. What he asked for was
MamCieZjemCie wrote:tool, which would plan for me production of rigs, such where you could put how much salvage you got and it would tell you what would be most efficient way to make use of it.
A completely different thing. |
MamCieZjemCie
Processor Co Rolling Thunder.
10
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Posted - 2012.09.20 05:28:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:The tool linked in that post allows you to input the salvage you have and lists what you can make out of it. It also allows you to plan your rig building and adjusts the stock that you've input accordingly, allowing you to work out the best blend of rigs for your stock.
Ok you aren't too smart to get it I see so I will make it plain simple for you. 1. Question were simple 2. You didn't know answer 3. You in your troll fest posted link to google 4. You havent even checked what you post google about, what I did in difference to you 5. And now you continue to spam your tiny trolls all over place Told you troll go back to wow to play with you mace, maybe some elf will put you arrow between eyes... |
Pipa Porto
968
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Posted - 2012.09.20 06:34:00 -
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MamCieZjemCie wrote:Ok you aren't too smart to get it I see so I will make it plain simple for you. 1. Question were simple 2. You didn't know answer 3. You in your troll fest posted link to google 4. You havent even checked what you post google about, what I did in difference to you 5. And now you continue to spam your tiny trolls all over place Told you troll go back to wow to play with you mace, maybe some elf will put you arrow between eyes...
I most certainly did check to make sure that the result I was referencing was on the page. If it is not in the position I indicated, blame Google's ability to adjust search results based on the user's search history. Click "Hide Personal Results" to turn that off (top right, next to the safe search control), and it comes in as the 4th result, a 1 result discrepancy. Even if you were browsing in 800x600, it would be above the fold.
Again, since when is answering your question trolling? EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
MamCieZjemCie
Processor Co Rolling Thunder.
10
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Posted - 2012.09.20 14:25:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:MamCieZjemCie wrote:Ok you aren't too smart to get it I see so I will make it plain simple for you. 1. Question were simple 2. You didn't know answer 3. You in your troll fest posted link to google 4. You havent even checked what you post google about, what I did in difference to you 5. And now you continue to spam your tiny trolls all over place Told you troll go back to wow to play with you mace, maybe some elf will put you arrow between eyes... I most certainly did check to make sure that the result I was referencing was on the page. If it is not in the position I indicated, blame Google's ability to adjust search results based on the user's search history. Click "Hide Personal Results" to turn that off (top right, next to the safe search control), and it comes in as the 4th result, a 1 result discrepancy. Even if you were browsing in 800x600, it would be above the fold. Again, since when is answering your question trolling?
LOL you still there, well newb first 5 resoults are not related to question, go figure how search engines work before you do bright posts with autolinks.
Told you go play with your mace in wow you troll, only exception of you being troll if you would be so dumb, but well you know how to turn pc on so its rather not case is it? |
AnnaBelle Bartlet
AnnaBelle Farms New Eden Research.
2
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Posted - 2012.09.20 14:42:00 -
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OP - several people tried to help you with polite and well-intentioned links to calculators and such. When you didn't find our answers helpful, your best response might have been "thanks anyway, but not quite what I was looking for"
Instead you have chosen to start a flame war with your disrespectful tone and snark, so
thanks anyway, but I for one am not looking for that here... |
Huttan Funaila
222 EVE 2 2 2
20
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Posted - 2012.09.20 17:52:00 -
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MamCieZjemCie wrote:I have 100 salvage1 140 salvage2 90 salvage3 and 150 salvage4 Now first rig would require 3 different salvage and I would end with some stock And here is question what to do next as rig, and would it be better to build less of first rig and more of second with salvage I do have. And/Or at end how much rigs to build with what I have. I haven't mention skills as all have have them, also haven't mention BPO as they are cheap and easy to research and most of us have somewhere in corner container with piles of unused cheap BPO's researched in past. The textbook used in my undergraduate ops managment course is Principles of Operations Management. Optimizing profits when you have 2-3 inputs and 2-3 outputs is a simple homework assignment, and something that can be done by hand during an exam. In most ops management problems the examples are usually about a furniture factory deciding to make more tables or chairs, as each item takes a different amount of wood, labor and time in the paint shop. You have some unspoken constraints (you cannot build a negative number of chairs or medium salvage rigs), and some explicit constraints (such as I have 140 salvage2, or 140 man-hours per week in the paint shop). With the output being the answer to "what is the most profitable mix of products I can make this time period?"
There are 248 tech 1 rig blueprints (the outputs) and 38 salvage materials (the inputs). This is too big to do by hand. Real world manufacturing companies would have thousands of inputs and hundreds of outputs.
Based on your answers to other posts, I believe you're going to need to build your own tool. I don't have the time or energy to do so. |
Velicitia
Open Designs
1155
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Posted - 2012.09.20 18:17:00 -
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didn't evehq or evemeep have a calculator built in.
you have (stuff), and the best combination of rigs you can build is: (list).
Granted, it may have been taken out, or was from some other tool that's since been left to rot... |
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