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Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2012.09.19 05:19:00 -
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from http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.ca/2012/09/csm7-thrown-em-under-bus.html
Episode #79 of the Lost in EVE podcast was released. I don't recommend listening to the entire thing. It's a tad over four and a half hours in length. Which is kind of ridiculous.
Length of Lost in EVE aside, Hans Jagerblitzen and Seleene appear on the episode, for about an hour and twenty minutes. From 0:28:00 to 1:49:00.
The interesting part of the podcast is where the hosts, Jade and Rundle, ask Hans and Seleene to rate the involvement and contributions of each of their fellow CSM members. It begins at 1:11:20. Hans is unable to answer for over twenty seconds. It actually sounds like he's choking on his own spit, the prospect of saying anything about anyone that might cause someone to be angry with him is causing all sorts of discomfort.
So for the next ten minutes, the hosts lowball the requirements of the question, so that Hans can give them some sort of answer. Seleene seems to think assigning everyone a colour is acceptable. Eventually Hans and Seleene agree that there are six CSM7 members who are doing a good job, and seven who shouldn't be on the council.
Bravo, Hans and Seleene. Genitalia, confirmed. Balls, still missing.
The only two they're willing to name explicitly for not contributing are Issler and Darius III. But those two are easy. Everyone and their pets know they were wasted votes. So calling out those two, while keeping the other five names a secret, is no information at all.
Although, not stated on this podcast, both are completely unwilling to throw anyone under the bus because they don't want to create a bad working relationship with any of their fellow CSM members. Which would be fine if all those CSM7 members were actually doing things of value. But as stated during those uncomfortable ten minutes, there are seven CSM7 members who aren't doing much of anything at all. So why be worried about a working relationship with someone that isn't showing up to do any work?
Hans even suggests the following to CSM8 voters:
"[1:21:30] The advice to voters the next time around, is [to] keep an eye on the people that are already doing the job. Not the people that want the job, [but] the people that are already doing the job and just want to be able to do it with greater access and greater information and take it to the next level."
If Hans isn't going to name any names, erring on the side of being nice to everybody, then the voters are left to guess which six busted their asses and which seven did not. Do the six that did bust their asses really want to be running CSM8 campaigns against the seven who did nothing? Maybe the electorate get it wrong, assume that Elise is one of the no-gooders, and that Dovinian is a do-gooder.
Whatever happened to transparency? Call them out now. They'll either continue doing nothing, or they'll get the kick in the pants that spurs them into being contributors.
They did eventually make a few comments on each of their fellow representatives, so some reading between the lines (and telling silences) will have to do for now.
To sum up their responses on each CSM7 representative:
Hans Jagerblitzen: Getting representatives to scorecard themselves is ridiculous. He obviously feels he is hard-working. (I wouldn't disagree.) Would he want to see someone just like himself on CSM8? Yes.
Seleene: Hardworking. Has a Pandemic Phone to Soundwave and Unifex. CSM8, yes.
Greene Lee: Language barrier to the max. Doesn't spend much time communicating with CCP. Seleene and Hans hear that he might be doing a bunch of translating to Russian players. (I wonder, if he can't speak English well, how does he translate what he has trouble understanding in the first place.) In an effort to not sound negative, they both give him the benefit of the doubt. CSM8, no.
Darius III: CSM8, no.
Elise Randolph: The super-nerd of CSM7. Excellent at all things ships. (We all knew this though.) CSM8, yes.
Issler Dainze: CSM8, no.
UAxDEATH: A long silence. Hans gives the floor to Seleene, "You know him better than me." That's not the sort of thing you'd hear if the guy showed up on the Skype channel regularly. Would seem that he is mostly absentee. CSM8, no.
Two Step: Hard working. Neither have an issue with his input. (I was disappointed that he does not actually do the job of Secretary, and Hans has to pick up all that slack as Vice-Secretary.) CSM8, yes.
Meissa Anunthiel: Dropped off the face of the earth. CSM8, no.
Kelduum Revaan: Five full seconds of silence. A lot of lip smacking and umming and awing, as Hans and Seleene figuring out some positive spin. That says all there is to say about Kelduum. His only contributions have been towards the corporate management UI and something to do with mineral compression. And to claim that Kelduum knows how to retain new players is a falsehood. His solution is, "Get them into EVE University." He has no clue about how to retain players if EVE University is not part of the process. CSM8, no.
Dovinian: Was involved with mineral compression with Kelduum. His only contribution, apparently. CSM8, no.
Alekseyev Karrde: Hard-working. Invaluable. CSM8, yes.
Trebor Daehdoow: Workhorse. CSM8, yes.
So there's the six representatives that Hans and Seleene would be glad to serve with on another CSM (assuming each were to run again), and there are the seven reps they think should not run again. Caldari Militia |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.09.19 07:47:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote: Two Step: Hard working. Neither have an issue with his input. (I was disappointed that he does not actually do the job of Secretary, and Hans has to pick up all that slack as Vice-Secretary.) CSM8, yes.
Well it is good to see they want the C5-C6 wormhole representative on CSM 8.
Hopefully we can get more people involved in the process and not just have the same old lot on the CSM. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
742
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Posted - 2012.09.19 10:11:00 -
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^ So bad time to bring up my cloning idea and research? I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4660
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Posted - 2012.09.19 17:28:00 -
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If you're not voting when would it ever be? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2164
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:16:00 -
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I've done exactly what I promised to do if elected. I'm on Skype daily, in the forums daily, provide feedback when I can provide something intelligent to the conversation. I've made all the town halls. I even transcribed one session of the first Iceland meeting.
What I haven't done is try to become a game designer.
So sorry I'm not worthy to be in the CSM 8 in the eyes of two of my co-CSMs. I expect I'll get over it.
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Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1203
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:24:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:I've done exactly what I promised to do if elected. I'm on Skype daily, in the forums daily, provide feedback when I can provide something intelligent to the conversation. I've made all the town halls. So sorry I'm not worthy to be in the CSM 8 in the eyes of two of my co-CSMs. I expect I'll get over it. Take it up with them. Hell, on that Ripard podcast, they said you have a personal cloaking device, because no one can ever see you (if you are in fact around.)
Issler Dainze wrote:I even transcribed one session of the first Iceland meeting. That's more than Kelduum, certainly.
Maybe they see you as better than Darius III, Kelduum and Dovinian, but not quite as good as Greene Lee. Caldari Militia |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2164
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:37:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:I've done exactly what I promised to do if elected. I'm on Skype daily, in the forums daily, provide feedback when I can provide something intelligent to the conversation. I've made all the town halls. So sorry I'm not worthy to be in the CSM 8 in the eyes of two of my co-CSMs. I expect I'll get over it. Take it up with them. For instance, on that Ripard podcast, they said you have a personal cloaking device, because no one can ever see you (if you are in fact around.) Issler Dainze wrote:I even transcribed one session of the first Iceland meeting. That's more than Kelduum, certainly. Maybe they see you as better than Darius III, Kelduum and Dovinian, but not quite as good as Greene Lee. Or maybe they're threatened by a woman being on the council. Some dudes are like that. I don't know. I'm just posting what I heard.
Like I said I am on the Skype channels daily. A lot of what goes on there has nothing relevant to Eve and I mostly choose not to chat. As for the internal forum channel with the exception of capitals and FW which I don't feel as qualified as others to talk about. In every other case I've provided CCP with feedback every time we've been asked. Sadly since that forum is closed you can't actually see that.
What I specifically ran on was to make sure the CCP would give mining and industry some attention going forward and as I have posted previously it is now clear that CCP has some great plans for mining and industry over the next two years. I didn't run to micromanage CCP or become a wanna-be game designer.
By the way, 2 hours a day was stated was what a "good" CSM should be doing. I am in the forums and Skype about that weekdays, weekends in the summer in Seattle, I won't commit to do that, now that the weather his will be back to not so nice I'll be back on weekends as well.
So I was never "liked" by the other CSM as was clear during the elections so these sorts of comments are exactly what I could expect. Again, not here to get back slapping woots from the other CSM members, just here to make sure miners and industrialist are getting CCP and looks to be on track.
Issler |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1791
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:53:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote: Like I said I am on the Skype channels daily. A lot of what goes on there has nothing relevant to Eve and I mostly choose not to chat.
Hm, story checks out. |
Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1989
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:20:00 -
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Hello again, Poe! Just so folks remember, I've already addressed this stuff here and in a couple follow up posts.
BTW, I would really, really appreciate it if you stop bring up that goddamn song. It takes days to get it out of my head. STOP IT!!!
Poetic Stanziel wrote: Or maybe they're threatened by a woman being on the council. Some dudes are like that. I don't know.
Never stop posting. CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter! |
Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1203
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Posted - 2012.09.19 23:34:00 -
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Yeah, but you guys didn't have the ballsack to name the seven. As a public service to those still wondering, I thought I'd give voice to those names.
Caldari Militia |
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Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1203
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Posted - 2012.09.19 23:38:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:So I was never "liked" by the other CSM as was clear during the elections so these sorts of comments are exactly what I could expect. Again, not here to get back slapping woots from the other CSM members, just here to make sure miners and industrialist are getting CCP and looks to be on track. You're not getting anything. Even Kelduum got a Trebor shout-out once, when I was criticising his level of input/output on the Council.
Caldari Militia |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
386
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Posted - 2012.09.20 01:36:00 -
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To be fair, let's say you were hired by a local church to help a family get back on their feet. Help them contact their debtors, create a budget, tutoring for the kids, and the like ... and the next day, they win the lottery with a takehome of 200M. That's kind of the situation Issler walked into. CCP decided they were going to make a lot of mining and industry fixes, and she didn't have much to push them on. To still push when they've said they're going to do it wouldn't accomplish much.
I don't know if she's contributing to other issues, and can only take her word that she is. That's one reason i suggested that once a thread is done on the CSM forum and it's cleared by NDA, that it get moved here ( or even use assembly hall, so it has some purpose). We'd see then where each person stood, who said what, and who said nothing.
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Cyprus Black
Perkone Caldari State
352
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Posted - 2012.09.20 03:47:00 -
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That podcast is well over four hours long. It's going to take several more commutes to work before I get through it all. Hijinks of a highsec pirate http://cyprusblack.blogspot.com/ |
Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1204
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Posted - 2012.09.20 05:47:00 -
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Cyprus Black wrote:That podcast is well over four hours long. It's going to take several more commutes to work before I get through it all. I give specific time stamps so that you don't have to listen to it all. Only a crazy person would listen to a 4.5 hour podcast. Caldari Militia |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.09.20 08:26:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Cyprus Black wrote:That podcast is well over four hours long. It's going to take several more commutes to work before I get through it all. I give specific time stamps so that you don't have to listen to it all. Only a crazy person would listen to a 4.5 hour podcast. so what does that make you, since you know where the pertinent information is within that podcast? Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilotn++ won't be jumping home. |
Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1205
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Posted - 2012.09.20 09:37:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Cyprus Black wrote:That podcast is well over four hours long. It's going to take several more commutes to work before I get through it all. I give specific time stamps so that you don't have to listen to it all. Only a crazy person would listen to a 4.5 hour podcast. so what does that make you, since you know where the pertinent information is within that podcast? I asked Aleks. He told me. The only portion of that podcast that I've listened to is between the 28th minute and the 109th minute. Caldari Militia |
None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.09.21 01:39:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:I've done exactly what I promised to do if elected. I'm on Skype daily, in the forums daily, provide feedback when I can provide something intelligent to the conversation. I've made all the town halls. So sorry I'm not worthy to be in the CSM 8 in the eyes of two of my co-CSMs. I expect I'll get over it. Take it up with them. For instance, on that Ripard podcast, they said you have a personal cloaking device, because no one can ever see you (if you are in fact around.) Issler Dainze wrote:I even transcribed one session of the first Iceland meeting. That's more than Kelduum, certainly. Maybe they see you as better than Darius III, Kelduum and Dovinian, but not quite as good as Greene Lee. Or maybe they're threatened by a woman being on the council. Some dudes are like that. I don't know. I'm just posting what I heard. Like I said I am on the Skype channels daily. A lot of what goes on there has nothing relevant to Eve and I mostly choose not to chat. As for the internal forum channel with the exception of capitals and FW which I don't feel as qualified as others to talk about. In every other case I've provided CCP with feedback every time we've been asked. Sadly since that forum is closed you can't actually see that. What I specifically ran on was to make sure the CCP would give mining and industry some attention going forward and as I have posted previously it is now clear that CCP has some great plans for mining and industry over the next two years. I didn't run to micromanage CCP or become a wanna-be game designer. By the way, 2 hours a day was stated was what a "good" CSM should be doing. I am in the forums and Skype about that weekdays, weekends in the summer in Seattle, I won't commit to do that, now that the weather his will be back to not so nice I'll be back on weekends as well. So I was never "liked" by the other CSM as was clear during the elections so these sorts of comments are exactly what I could expect. Again, not here to get back slapping woots from the other CSM members, just here to make sure miners and industrialist are getting CCP and looks to be on track. Issler
With all due respect Issler, I think people expect more from a CSM than to sit around quietly until asked for feedback.
I do at least.
I think its clear from recent events that different people have different opinions about what the CSM should or should not be doing.
EVE is a sandbox; The only "end-game" content in EVE is the crap that makes you rage-quit.
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2168
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Posted - 2012.09.21 05:38:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:I've done exactly what I promised to do if elected. I'm on Skype daily, in the forums daily, provide feedback when I can provide something intelligent to the conversation. I've made all the town halls. So sorry I'm not worthy to be in the CSM 8 in the eyes of two of my co-CSMs. I expect I'll get over it. Take it up with them. For instance, on that Ripard podcast, they said you have a personal cloaking device, because no one can ever see you (if you are in fact around.) Issler Dainze wrote:I even transcribed one session of the first Iceland meeting. That's more than Kelduum, certainly. Maybe they see you as better than Darius III, Kelduum and Dovinian, but not quite as good as Greene Lee. Or maybe they're threatened by a woman being on the council. Some dudes are like that. I don't know. I'm just posting what I heard. Like I said I am on the Skype channels daily. A lot of what goes on there has nothing relevant to Eve and I mostly choose not to chat. As for the internal forum channel with the exception of capitals and FW which I don't feel as qualified as others to talk about. In every other case I've provided CCP with feedback every time we've been asked. Sadly since that forum is closed you can't actually see that. What I specifically ran on was to make sure the CCP would give mining and industry some attention going forward and as I have posted previously it is now clear that CCP has some great plans for mining and industry over the next two years. I didn't run to micromanage CCP or become a wanna-be game designer. By the way, 2 hours a day was stated was what a "good" CSM should be doing. I am in the forums and Skype about that weekdays, weekends in the summer in Seattle, I won't commit to do that, now that the weather his will be back to not so nice I'll be back on weekends as well. So I was never "liked" by the other CSM as was clear during the elections so these sorts of comments are exactly what I could expect. Again, not here to get back slapping woots from the other CSM members, just here to make sure miners and industrialist are getting CCP and looks to be on track. Issler With all due respect Issler, I think people expect more from a CSM than to sit around quietly until asked for feedback. I do at least. I think its clear from recent events that different people have different opinions about what the CSM should or should not be doing.
So I made it pretty clear I did not run for CSM to be the "good idea fairy" and a wanna-be game designer. I ran to make sure CCP has plans to improve mining and industry. Turns out they do. In the mean time we get requests from CCP about what we think and what we think the players think about CCP's plans to do new stuff in Eve. I respond as best I can to those asks. And when I disagree with CCP I make it clear why.
For example, the low sec gate gun mess, I think there is merit to changing their behavior as part of making low sec more interesting to a larger set of players. In the thread that captured the good and bad of that idea it was clear many players were in favor of some change. I have tried to convey to CCP that while the proposed idea may not have been ideal, there are players that think gate guns would better if their behavior was evolved. I am trying to make sure CCP keeps those players feedback in mind going forward.
So I am not "sitting around quietly" even though I'n not constantly blogging and posting giant forum threads . That has never been my style. I am doing EXACTLY what I promised I would do if elected.
One other point, I am not focusing my CSM efforts in getting elected to CSM 8. I am focused on doing what I promised to do if elected.
Issler
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2168
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Posted - 2012.09.21 05:50:00 -
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I also want to make another point, despite what has been said about my lack of activity as a CSM 7 by some of my fellow CSM 7, I think with the exception of a few MIA members that haven't been in Skype, forums or townhalls (I think a small amount of research will let you figure out who has gone missing), I am very impressed with the other CSM 7, I hope that Selene, Alek, Hans and pretty much everyone else runs again, if they want to continue to work as hard for the players as I've seen them so far, they earned another term.
I know I'll be voting for someone in the current CSM next election if they chose to run.
Issler
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None ofthe Above
328
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Posted - 2012.09.21 05:51:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:
So I made it pretty clear I did not run for CSM to be the "good idea fairy" and a wanna-be game designer. I ran to make sure CCP has plans to improve mining and industry. Turns out they do. In the mean time we get requests from CCP about what we think and what we think the players think about CCP's plans to do new stuff in Eve. I respond as best I can to those asks. And when I disagree with CCP I make it clear why.
For example, the low sec gate gun mess, I think there is merit to changing their behavior as part of making low sec more interesting to a larger set of players. In the thread that captured the good and bad of that idea it was clear many players were in favor of some change. I have tried to convey to CCP that while the proposed idea may not have been ideal, there are players that think gate guns would better if their behavior was evolved. I am trying to make sure CCP keeps those players feedback in mind going forward.
So I am not "sitting around quietly" even though I'n not constantly blogging and posting giant forum threads . That has never been my style. I am doing EXACTLY what I promised I would do if elected.
One other point, I am not focusing my CSM efforts in getting elected to CSM 8. I am focused on doing what I promised to do if elected.
Issler
That ...was a much better answer to Poetic than the one you gave, and I responded to.
EVE is a sandbox; The only "end-game" content in EVE is the crap that makes you rage-quit.
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Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1210
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Posted - 2012.09.21 07:01:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:So I made it pretty clear I did not run for CSM to be the "good idea fairy" and a wanna-be game designer. I ran to make sure CCP has plans to improve mining and industry. Turns out they do. In the mean time we get requests from CCP about what we think and what we think the players think about CCP's plans to do new stuff in Eve. I respond as best I can to those asks. And when I disagree with CCP I make it clear why.
For example, the low sec gate gun mess, I think there is merit to changing their behavior as part of making low sec more interesting to a larger set of players. In the thread that captured the good and bad of that idea it was clear many players were in favor of some change. I have tried to convey to CCP that while the proposed idea may not have been ideal, there are players that think gate guns would better if their behavior was evolved. I am trying to make sure CCP keeps those players feedback in mind going forward.
So I am not "sitting around quietly" even though I'n not constantly blogging and posting giant forum threads . That has never been my style. I am doing EXACTLY what I promised I would do if elected.
One other point, I am not focusing my CSM efforts in getting elected to CSM 8. I am focused on doing what I promised to do if elected. I can respect this. Thank you for the reply and not engaging in a bunch of political double-speak.
Caldari Militia |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
864
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Posted - 2012.09.21 10:51:00 -
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As to those members who produce, I must ask how much was done by the CSM 6-7 Members on the areas of industry and POS's given that we have now had mining barge re-balances and the soon to be introduced mining frigate.
This seems to be a lot of work as when combined with the upcoming POS changes and all during a WAR based cycle.
Especially with the only CSM 6 contributions on the matter to these areas as listed in http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/CSM_6_Activities_Summary are "How complex should advanced industry be? " and "POS Fuel pellets. "
So while the CSM can provide valuable input that the devs could use for a sounding board or even suggesting ideas the community likes, how much input have the current CSM 6-7 members had on these important changes? or for that matter on the UI mess we had earlier this year?
I also noticed no mention of fixing the old super broken Corporate Roles/permissions system. Frankly I would have thought this would have been something effecting more people in the game than Supercaps or Nullsec design goals.
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1991
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Posted - 2012.09.21 14:31:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:As to those members who produce, I must ask how much was done by the CSM 6-7 Members on the areas of industry and POS's given that we have now had mining barge re-balances and the soon to be introduced mining frigate. This seems to be a lot of work as when combined with the upcoming POS changes and all during a WAR based cycle. Especially with the only CSM 6 contributions on the matter to these areas as listed in http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/CSM_6_Activities_Summary are "How complex should advanced industry be? " and "POS Fuel pellets. " So while the CSM can provide valuable input that the devs could use for a sounding board or even suggesting ideas the community likes, how much input have the current CSM 6-7 members had on these important changes? or for that matter on the UI mess we had earlier this year?
Despite the "war" theme, there is quite a lot of other stuff happening, which is finally starting to come to light. As to your questions on specific features...
The Unified Inventory debacle - We've been hammering on this since before it even went to TQ. We made it a point to set them on fire about it at the Summit and have been kept in the loop with regard to continuing iteration on it. Just a few days ago, I got CCP Arrow to post an update thread about the latest round of changes. Work on this continues.
Mining barge re-balance - we were right in the thick of it.
New mining frigate - that's happening right now. We've been shown the plans for them and the new destroyers.
New POSs - to say that our involvement with this is / will be intensive would be an understatement. The new POSs are one of the main things we have pushed for resources on. CSM 7 will be heavily engaged in their development.
Frying Doom wrote:I also noticed no mention of fixing the old super broken Corporate Roles/permissions system.
There has actually been quite a bit of chatter about this due to some of the stuff coming for Winter and Spring next year. Hopefully CCP will be releasing more info soon and we are pushing them hard to take the lid off and start messaging ASAP. CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter! |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
864
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Posted - 2012.09.21 14:46:00 -
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Seleene wrote:Despite the "war" theme, there is quite a lot of other stuff happening, which is finally starting to come to light. As to your questions on specific features... The Unified Inventory debacle - We've been hammering on this since before it even went to TQ. We made it a point to set them on fire about it at the Summit and have been kept in the loop with regard to continuing iteration on it. Just a few days ago, I got CCP Arrow to post an update thread about the latest round of changes. Work on this continues. New mining frigate - that's happening right now. We've been shown the plans for them and the new destroyers. New POSs - to say that our involvement with this is / will be intensive would be an understatement. The new POSs are one of the main things we have pushed for resources on. CSM 7 will be heavily engaged in their development. So what you are saying is that these things did come up during CSM 6 and that it is actually Trebor Daehdoow's fault for not noting them down correctly as the secretary as well as failing to update the "What is the CSM page" for a year?
Well hopefully this CSM's secretary (Two Step) will not be asleep on the Job. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Inggroth
Fremen Sietch DarkSide.
21
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Posted - 2012.09.21 15:26:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote: Greene Lee: Language barrier to the max. Doesn't spend much time communicating with CCP. Seleene and Hans hear that he might be doing a bunch of translating to Russian players.
No he doesnt.
For anyone wondering: on eve-ru he has a sticky thread called "CSM7 Greene Lee - lets talk" which has like 10 pages and where he last posted more than a month ago. Also he started maybe 2 or 3 threads where he'd ask for ideas and feedback about specific issues (like UI or POS revamp) and which died off really quickly.
Thats obviously a lot compared to absolute zero effort (xdeath) |
Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2012.09.21 19:21:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:As to those members who produce, I must ask how much was done by the CSM 6-7 Members on the areas of industry and POS's given that we have now had mining barge re-balances and the soon to be introduced mining frigate. The chairman of CSM6 did quite a lot to convince CCP to make mining barge changes. There was first a Gallente Ice Interdiction. And then there was a highly successful Hulkageddon V, followed by Hulkageddon Forever. I'm sure Jita Burns might have also played a small part.
Caldari Militia |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2012.09.23 06:41:00 -
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^ On a roll, as well, Goons also use a ton of drakes and tengus so the Chairman mittani is still in power by getting CCP to nerf them. Also Mittani is still chairman, since goons are too big of a faction by his doing, and he is getting CCP and CSM to change the way CSM voting is done, to get smaller groups in. Also Mittens the chairman, still likes to wage wars over tech and for tech moons, so he got CCP to not drastically nerf tech moons. Its so awesome. I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
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