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Cassiopeia Andromedae
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Posted - 2011.07.19 21:59:00 -
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It should require Exhumers V to get in Hulk.
Also Hulk should cost about billion ISK.
In the long run billon is nothing, but if your BOT in hulk gets constantly blown up...billion starts to be a lot.
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Harland White
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:00:00 -
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lol k
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Marshiro
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:02:00 -
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ravens mine faster anyways
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Sader Rykane
Amarr The Dark Space Initiative Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Marshiro ravens mine faster anyways
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The Offerer
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:04:00 -
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The solution for your problem is already here.
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Hiroshi Nagasaki
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:04:00 -
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good topic...
oh and BS should require the Cruiser/Frig skill on V too |
Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:05:00 -
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I can sell you lots of hulks fitted for 190m if you want.
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Cassiopeia Andromedae
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:07:00 -
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Look at all these botters.
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Digital Messiah
Gallente Oregami Ultd
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: Digital Messiah on 19/07/2011 22:08:49
Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae It should require Exhumers V to get in Hulk.
Also Hulk should cost about billion ISK.
In the long run billon is nothing, but if your BOT in hulk gets constantly blown up...billion starts to be a lot.
Then everyone will be like... "the rent is to damn high"
Quote: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Gerald Sphinx
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:15:00 -
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CCP is not responsible for the price of a Hulk. Prices are always determined by the laws of supply and demand. So far, the average of a Hulk has slightly risen in Sinq Laison from 170million ISK to about 190million ISK. That may be closer to your dreams than a 170mil Hulk, but that's still a far cry from the early days of the which when it use to cost 500million ISK just for the damn hull.
It's like cell phones. Back then, the first cell phone costed over $1,000 and that's just for a brick-sized cell phone that does one thing: call and receive calls (reception was ****ty back then). Nowadays, they can fit in your pocket, browse the internet, take pictures/videos, etc. for the low cost of barely 10% of that price. What cause the sudden drop in price? Supply and demand.
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Vynk
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:18:00 -
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1) Don't think the OP has put much time into mining.
2) not all hulk pilots are bots.
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Zag'mar Jurkar
Minmatar Advent of the Blood Sun
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae Look at all these botters.
Funny how as soon as there is oppositions to your ideas, terrible or not, you already jump to conclusions.
Bots won't stop botting because their tools are more expensive, they'll just refine themselves more.
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Cassiopeia Andromedae
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Gerald Sphinx CCP is not responsible for the price of a Hulk.
LOL you fool. CCP states what is required to build one. Blueprints.
They should increase the requirements that with current price level Hulk would cost about 1.1-1.2 B ISK.
Frigs go from 20k up to 200k, cruisers from 2 mil to 6 mil, bc's from 15 to 30, bs's from 70 to 130.
Now mining barge and exhumers have a problem. Covetor does have only one purpose, to being thrown into owen to bake a Hulk.
Also price difference from 20 mil to 185 mil is way too small step. That 185 mil can be mined way too fast in Covetor and the requirement skill wise, Exhumers III, is way too easy.
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Gerald Sphinx
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae
Originally by: Gerald Sphinx CCP is not responsible for the price of a Hulk.
LOL you fool. CCP states what is required to build one. Blueprints.
They should increase the requirements that with current price level Hulk would cost about 1.1-1.2 B ISK.
Frigs go from 20k up to 200k, cruisers from 2 mil to 6 mil, bc's from 15 to 30, bs's from 70 to 130.
Now mining barge and exhumers have a problem. Covetor does have only one purpose, to being thrown into owen to bake a Hulk.
Also price difference from 20 mil to 185 mil is way too small step. That 185 mil can be mined way too fast in Covetor and the requirement skill wise, Exhumers III, is way too easy.
Go back to economics class.
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Thomas Turnpoint
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:42:00 -
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This sounds more like it's about killmails and tears, not botting.
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Angeligue Tuttle
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:44:00 -
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If you really believe Hulks are to cheap then buy a few, work on raising the price where you want it and sell them. Supply Glut of Hulks+Demand Normal=Low prices.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Marshiro ravens mine faster anyways
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Cassiopeia Andromedae
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Angeligue Tuttle If you really believe Hulks are to cheap then buy a few, work on raising the price where you want it and sell them. Supply Glut of Hulks+Demand Normal=Low prices.
OMG... It should cost ten times more to BUILD ONE HULK....
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Zag'mar Jurkar
Minmatar Advent of the Blood Sun
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae
Originally by: Angeligue Tuttle If you really believe Hulks are to cheap then buy a few, work on raising the price where you want it and sell them. Supply Glut of Hulks+Demand Normal=Low prices.
OMG... It should cost ten times more to BUILD ONE HULK....
And that's your solution to bots?
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Kalaed Lyosk
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:50:00 -
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You crazy. Making all the Hulksters train Exhumers V just means they all will mine even faster.
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Cassiopeia Andromedae
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zag'mar Jurkar
Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae
Originally by: Angeligue Tuttle If you really believe Hulks are to cheap then buy a few, work on raising the price where you want it and sell them. Supply Glut of Hulks+Demand Normal=Low prices.
OMG... It should cost ten times more to BUILD ONE HULK....
And that's your solution to bots?
2 mil per hour, 23 hours per day, 1380 mil per month in highsec. Now GANK one hulk and botter loses nearly one MONTH worth of botting.
Currently hulks are so cheap that botters don't even bother to whine about getting blown up.
In 0.0 it's bit trickier since they make more than 2 mil per hour, BUT, with metagaming, ganking ass load of bots in one strike sure makes it harder.
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Kalaed Lyosk
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: Kalaed Lyosk on 19/07/2011 22:53:46
Originally by: Zag'mar Jurkar
Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae
Originally by: Angeligue Tuttle If you really believe Hulks are to cheap then buy a few, work on raising the price where you want it and sell them. Supply Glut of Hulks+Demand Normal=Low prices.
OMG... It should cost ten times more to BUILD ONE HULK....
And that's your solution to bots?
I suppose it works by some twisted logic. If only bots would shell out a ridiculous amount of money to buy a Hulk, then every Hulk you see is a bot.
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Zag'mar Jurkar
Minmatar Advent of the Blood Sun
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae
Originally by: Zag'mar Jurkar
Originally by: Cassiopeia Andromedae
Originally by: Angeligue Tuttle If you really believe Hulks are to cheap then buy a few, work on raising the price where you want it and sell them. Supply Glut of Hulks+Demand Normal=Low prices.
OMG... It should cost ten times more to BUILD ONE HULK....
And that's your solution to bots?
2 mil per hour, 23 hours per day, 1380 mil per month in highsec. Now GANK one hulk and botter loses nearly one MONTH worth of botting.
Currently hulks are so cheap that botters don't even bother to whine about getting blown up.
In 0.0 it's bit trickier since they make more than 2 mil per hour, BUT, with metagaming, ganking ass load of bots in one strike sure makes it harder.
And what about the legit miners like me? I don't want to do missions over missions over missions for just 1 hulk.
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daddys helper
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:55:00 -
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obvious troll post is obvious
to most of us anyhow
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Cassiopeia Andromedae
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Zag'mar Jurkar
And what about the legit miners like me? I don't want to do missions over missions over missions for just 1 hulk.
Don't mine alone. Don't get ganked.
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Lonox
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Posted - 2011.07.19 22:57:00 -
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You're easy and cheap.
Originally by: Holly Cleland has red bruising and veins popping up where the monocle plugs in.
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Titus Phook
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Posted - 2011.07.19 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: Titus Phook on 19/07/2011 23:09:43 2 million an hour in hisec? you're doing it wrong, try at least doubling that using a skilled character, a decent fit and a hauling alt. Ignorant people assuming you're botting , people looking down on you because you don't pewpew and the poor isk rewards already make mining one of the least rewarding career paths in eve and you want to increase the price of a miners staple toolset by a factor of ten?
Even with a skilled character and a hauling alt you can still roll the isk in quicker running missions. I've unsubbed my hulk/orca pilot precisely because the rewards are so damn poor, if you want to increase the price of a hulk tenfold, expect the price of the raw materials that produce your ammo, ships, modules etc to go up by a proportionate amount, a miner has to cover their investment in both time and isk and that will get passed onto the market in the form of increased prices.
Some people seem to forget without mining there is a lesser supply of raw materials to produce goods that either go boom or make other peoples stuff go boom. --------------------------------------------- CCP just shat in the sandbox, so they could try and sell us a gold plated shovel to remove said turd. :( |
Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.19 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Titus Phook 2 million an hour in hisec? you're doing it wrong, try at least doubling that using a skilled character, a decent fit and a hauling alt.
àso still only 2M/h, really, since you need double the amount of characters to earn double the amount of ISK. ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP |
Titus Phook
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Posted - 2011.07.19 23:16:00 -
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@ Tippia my bad, it's actually more than double, I used to do about 5 million an hour with just veldspar, different ores obviously give better income depending on supply and demand, and of course refining skills. Best I've managed in hisec is approx 8 million an hour but I was bored to tears after 5 hours of shuffling to and from jetcans. --------------------------------------------- CCP just shat in the sandbox, so they could try and sell us a gold plated shovel to remove said turd. :( |
Meryl SinGarda
Caldari Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
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Posted - 2011.07.19 23:40:00 -
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If a billion ISK were really that easy to come by, do you honestly believe we'd have threads of people crying about AUR prices/vanity item prices? Fly safe, Die hard |
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