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Vikarion
Caldari State Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.07.21 01:28:00 -
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I would also like to invest the maximum allowed, which, as I understand, is 100 million. Caldari loyalist, BTW. - - -
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K'plar
Gallente United Federation of Planetary Exploration
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Posted - 2011.07.21 01:42:00 -
[32]
I would like to reserve 10 shares as well, please.
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wodahs hunt
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Posted - 2011.07.21 02:57:00 -
[33]
Reserve me 100m isk
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.07.21 03:07:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Archbishop Industries
3. Yes many rp players use the third party style of speech.
I didn't mean to mock you, was merely curious.
RP in this game? to be quite honest i haven't seen/heard of it. is there an RP community? Just another aspect of this great game of ours, that i didn't know about
I do hope you are keeping some track of the reservations, seems alot of players are interested in the investment. ___ iCandy Bonds
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Brock Nelson
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Posted - 2011.07.21 03:27:00 -
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Most RPer I've seen are found in Amarrian space. Not sure if putting on the wizard hat and robe has something to do with it
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2011.07.21 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Candy Oshea is there an RP community? Just another aspect of this great game of ours, that i didn't know about
There is indeed an RP community in Eve. Sadly, RP is not given much respect by the "masses" and has waned over the years for lack of participants. Hmmm, more correctly, lack of intelligent participants. The Eve RP community used to have a much more visible presence. Some may say too much at one point. As time went on and Dev support for RP diminished the RP community, imho, imploded from an overload of whiny little *****es. The other flaw to RP communities is, again imho, the proliferation of liars in them. While assuming a "role" does entail a certain of amount of creative license too many rp'ers use roleplay not for exploring the nature of certain archetypes or character traits but as a cover for their own flawed natures. These RP deficients range from pathological liars, scammers, or *******s, these people use RP to try to make their unacceptable behavior "character driven" instead of being honest about it. Let's just say that I'm on both sides of the better RP fence: I hate the state of RP in eve for its greatly diminished and under-supported state. Equally I hate those that hide behind RP as some sort of all purpose excuse for being a jackass.
Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame. |
Esan Vartesa
East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.07.21 14:16:00 -
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Wow. That was indeed bitter, Shar.
On the other side of the coin, investment in an RP corp does add an extra element, at least on a meta level. A player like Archbishop has invested much in his character's reputation, far more than any non-roleplaying player who can just flip to any old alt.
With roleplayers, the character itself is the entity you're dealing with, in a way, and thus their reputation holds far more weight. That doesn't mean they won't abscond with your money, but the consequences are far worse for them.
100m please.
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Annabelle Horiz
New Horizon Investments
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Posted - 2011.07.21 17:28:00 -
[38]
I would like to reserve 10 shares please. [NHI] Investing in the sunny days of tomorrow. |
Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.07.21 18:36:00 -
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Edited by: Tigerras on 21/07/2011 18:36:10
Originally by: Esan Vartesa Wow. That was indeed bitter, Shar.
On the other side of the coin, investment in an RP corp does add an extra element, at least on a meta level. A player like Archbishop has invested much in his character's reputation, far more than any non-roleplaying player who can just flip to any old alt.
With roleplayers, the character itself is the entity you're dealing with, in a way, and thus their reputation holds far more weight. That doesn't mean they won't abscond with your money, but the consequences are far worse for them.
100m please.
Roleplaying can also be a tool to scam, though. Sure he's invested more time into his character, but that's not necessarily going to keep him from scamming.
Heck, could you imagine the RP possibilities if Archbishop appropriated the funds from this corporation to go do some work to destroy the Matari people? Who would see him as a hero, and who a villain? It has the makings of a mini-series.
Not saying AB will scam, just that RPing doesn't reduce the likelihood of scamming...just increases the likelihood of a "good reason" for scamming...yay character development.
-Tig --------------------------------------- Tigerras's Audits and Third-Party Servicing |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2011.07.22 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Esan Vartesa Wow. That was indeed bitter, Shar.
Yes it is indeed. Fortunately I don't dwell on the negative, I'm just bitter while engaging in hindsight and recollection. As to "invested" in character I say p-shaw on that concept. "Invested in image" was the straw that E-Bank board of directors built their disaster upon. That's the caveat. As for Archie, I've known him since Eve Beta. If it was possible I would buy out the entire investment outright. I've invested him in before and while past performance is never a future guarantee I would considered it a well balanced risk. I used to be quite good at digging out dirt on people, in my time, and I've never heard of Archie turning a dirty hand of poker. My investing in him has nothing to do with RP however. Just a sound decision based upon the character of a man I've known, off and on, for almost a decade now. /shrugs
Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame. |
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Valeria Audene
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Posted - 2011.07.22 07:21:00 -
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Upping my reserve from 20m to 100m. Acquired more than I expected =) Thanks
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Levija Saplina
Supremacy Inc. Not Found.
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Posted - 2011.07.22 07:45:00 -
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I would like to reserve 10 shares of your promising venture if his eminence will allow me.
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Archbishop Industries
Amarr Archbishop Industries Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.07.22 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: Archbishop Industries on 22/07/2011 22:13:55
The third post in this thread has a list of requested shareholders please make sure your name is on the list.
Total stock: $20.00b isk - 2000 shares Total: $1.70b isk - 170 shares public sold + $4.80b isk - 380 shares Amarrian loyalist sold Total: $6.50b isk - 550 shares sold total + $12.00b isk - Archbishop Majority Holding Total: $18.50b isk - Total Shares Sold/Reserved + $1.50b isk - Remaining Shares to be Sold
Total of 150 shares remaining ($1.50b). If they don't sell by tomorrow Archbishop will buy them and increase his majority holding.
Archie
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Archbishop Industries
Amarr Archbishop Industries Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.07.22 22:27:00 -
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Answers to Questions:
Originally by: Adonis Peverell Is there a buyback option on stock outside of Code Black, or is it up to individual shareholders to find another investor? In the case of a share sale, how is the transfer of stock handled? Put me down for a tentative 100 million ISK pending answers to the above. You've got quite a flair for business, keep up the good work.
If shareholders want to sell their shares they can locate another investor. If you sell your shares it's up to you to trade them for isk or use a third party service to ensure a secure trade. I will say here if you want to sell your shares I'd talk to Archbishop first. I am keeping liquid funds available to cover buybacks if people want to sell. Keep in mind with the max corp value clause ($22b) the value of the stock should never really go up more than 10% since it's tied to the value of the corp and I won't let the corp value go beyond $22b. The code black option (I'm glad you read it) is something that will probably never be used however as Archbishop is a roleplayer it's something I added in there strictly as an RP tool. After all you wouldn't want Amarrians funding terrorism!
Originally by: Arlonis Noban If I were to invest $100m, for example, how much would I be getting back on that every month? This would be my first experience buying shares so sorry if it's a stupid question or something.
My "goal" which is what I've set as a minimum expectation is to make $800m-$1b a month in profit. Honestly I expect to make more then that but thats the minimum I can manage. Using $1b isk figure 50% goes to shareholders as a dividend so we're looking at $500m as a dividend. With 2,000 total shares thats $250k profit per share. If you have 10 shares ($100m) that would be $2.5m per month. Honestly I'd expect more then that but as I said above I'm going to be very conservative. My last IPO (Praetoria) where shareholders came way out ahead was with the special dividends (you'll notice that clause in the charter document). Corp value will rise past $22b isk probably fairly quickly and when it does whatever is over will be paid as a dividend with 75% going to shareholders. Lets say I end the monthly books at the corp has a value of $23.5b isk after paying the dividend for the month. I'll pay out a special divdiend of $1.5b isk. My past IPOs each paid out 3-4 special dividends over the course of the year in addition to the regular dividends. Looking long term if you get back $2.5m each month that's $30m isk dividend income over the course of a year. Your original stock is still worth what you paid for it so a 30% annual interest rate (as a conservative estimate) isn't that bad.
Archie
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Archbishop Industries
Amarr Archbishop Industries Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.07.22 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Esan Vartesa Wow. That was indeed bitter, Shar.
On the other side of the coin, investment in an RP corp does add an extra element, at least on a meta level. A player like Archbishop has invested much in his character's reputation, far more than any non-roleplaying player who can just flip to any old alt.
With roleplayers, the character itself is the entity you're dealing with, in a way, and thus their reputation holds far more weight. That doesn't mean they won't abscond with your money, but the consequences are far worse for them.
100m please.
Bitter but true unfortunately. Still on this Market forum it is OOC (as I started the first post here) and I will always be OOC on this forum. While you are here speaking with me you are speaking with the man behind Archbishop, Calladen Nimitz, Zolcan and others versus any specific character. However keep in mind for the purpose of this IPO the corporation is an Amarrian RP corporation. Thus Archbishop may do something in game RP wise but I will explain OOC here why I do it if asked. I'm very good about keeping IC/OOC seperate. I think it's essential.
With the "old alt" thing it's funny to realize that in reality Archbishop is an "alt" of Calladen Nimitz. Even though I play Archie most of the time Calladen will always be my main character.
Originally by: Tigerras Roleplaying can also be a tool to scam, though. Sure he's invested more time into his character, but that's not necessarily going to keep him from scamming.
Heck, could you imagine the RP possibilities if Archbishop appropriated the funds from this corporation to go do some work to destroy the Matari people? Who would see him as a hero, and who a villain? It has the makings of a mini-series.
Not saying AB will scam, just that RPing doesn't reduce the likelihood of scamming...just increases the likelihood of a "good reason" for scamming...yay character development.
-Tig
RP wise there are always possibilities. Still here on this forum you are dealing with the player behind these characters and not the character himself. Any moderate search of forums in the past will make clear my stance on scams, corp theft, being a jerk and other things. One of the reasons Archbishop and Calladen before him have their reputations is while they may play a particular person ingame the underlying ethics of the player (me) do shine through.
I compare it to this analogy. I remember back after beta having to deal with pirates and the famous Setec of Space Invaders. He was a great pirate and I was a great fan despite the fact he was a pirate (who held me up). Why? Because he played a pirate (RP wise) and wasn't a jerk. You can be a great guy and play a pirate like Verone of VETO. I have so much respect for him, he's a great guy, a nice guy, I'd buy him a beer, and he's a pirate.
Who you are in real life will not affect the character you play ingame. Even I could be a "pirate" (like Setec). But it will affect HOW you play that character. If you're a complete jerk and treat people poorly it doesn't matter how much of a saint your character is in game. Likewise if you're a great guy (like Verone) who is an evil pirate it doesn't matter how much you pirate the fact you're a great guy shows through.
Archie
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Archbishop Industries
Amarr Archbishop Industries Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.07.22 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Esan Vartesa Wow. That was indeed bitter, Shar.
Yes it is indeed. Fortunately I don't dwell on the negative, I'm just bitter while engaging in hindsight and recollection. As to "invested" in character I say p-shaw on that concept. "Invested in image" was the straw that E-Bank board of directors built their disaster upon. That's the caveat. As for Archie, I've known him since Eve Beta. If it was possible I would buy out the entire investment outright. I've invested him in before and while past performance is never a future guarantee I would considered it a well balanced risk. I used to be quite good at digging out dirt on people, in my time, and I've never heard of Archie turning a dirty hand of poker. My investing in him has nothing to do with RP however. Just a sound decision based upon the character of a man I've known, off and on, for almost a decade now. /shrugs
As a player I will tell you this. I won't rip you off, I won't scam you, I'll be honest with you. If I can't continue to run the corp I'll pay everyone back and close out the IPO (like my last two) and I'll try to do a good job. I will play the corp as an RP organization so there is always risk (alot of Minmatar hate Archbishop).
That said I will say if I disappear for awhile it's probably due to a health issue (being older I have a few) or more likely RL work. I will always stay in touch however and being an RP player you'll see me making update posts in the Intergalactic Summit forum about business. Like I said I like the RP, the spreadsheets, the charts, the news updates, it's all fodder for Archbishop.
As for a "decade"... time goes way to fast when you get older...
Archie
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Adonis Peverell
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Posted - 2011.07.23 04:56:00 -
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If you'd be so kind as to put me down for 10 shares, I'd be proud as an Amarrian to invest in this fine company.
Cheers!
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Annabelle Horiz
New Horizon Investments
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Posted - 2011.07.23 08:25:00 -
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Hi Archbisop,
on reflection could I also be designated as a venture capitalist? Re-reading the charter it is not clear whether this is limited to one shareholder as I previously thought. Although at present I am happy to stay at the aforementioned 100m share purchase I would like to be free to purchase more in the future.
I would be happy to pick up the remaining 50m of shares if nobody else comes in for them. [NHI] Investing in the sunny days of tomorrow. |
Strrog
Caldari Zero Excavations
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Posted - 2011.07.23 12:10:00 -
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Is there room left for few bill investment? Can mail me with an update :). ty
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.07.24 09:04:00 -
[50]
my name not in the reserve list
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Cage Man
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Posted - 2011.07.24 21:06:00 -
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Edited by: Cage Man on 24/07/2011 21:10:49 Any left? I will take 5 @ 50mil.
edit-- doh!!! can't read.. see it closed on Friday..
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Zaphariah
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Posted - 2011.07.24 22:39:00 -
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Hi Archie,
I suppose you've bought all the remaining shares yourself? Just checking to be sure (because I read the topic too late and wanted to buy shares for 50 million).
Regards,
Zaph
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Archbishop Industries
Amarr Archbishop Industries Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.01 03:20:00 -
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A list of shareholders will be published this week and directions evemailed to those individuals to setup payment and receipt of shares.
Archbishop Industries
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.08.01 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop Industries
A list of shareholders will be published this week and directions evemailed to those individuals to setup payment and receipt of shares.
Archbishop Industries
Can you remove me from the investor list please. (No offense meant) but it has taken you a week to respond here with further directions, not good enough imo.
Best of luck with it. ___ iCandy Bonds
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Archbishop Industries
Amarr Archbishop Industries Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.06 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Candy Oshea
Originally by: Archbishop Industries
A list of shareholders will be published this week and directions evemailed to those individuals to setup payment and receipt of shares.
Archbishop Industries
Can you remove me from the investor list please. (No offense meant) but it has taken you a week to respond here with further directions, not good enough imo.
Best of luck with it.
Certainly and no offense taken. Like I said earlier RL takes its toll some days and I spend most of my time online over the weekends. Your name is removed. Evemails are going out in about 30 minutes to all prospective shareholders.
Archbishop
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Archbishop Industries
Amarr Archbishop Industries Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.06 22:30:00 -
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Evemails are going out within the hour. Those who are on the list to purchase shares please send your isk to ARCHBISHOP INDUSTRIES (this character) along with an evemail confirming your payment. I will be sending out the stock to all purchasers on Wednesday. Any payments/reservations not made by Wednesday I will consider voided.
The shares you will be issued will be sent by the character ARCHBISHOP CEO and the shares will be in the corporation named ARCHBISHOP INDUSTRIES - STOCK.
Here is the list:
SHAREHOLDER REQUEST LIST
$4.80b - Amarr Loyalists Orders
$100m - 10 shares - Tigerras $100m - 10 shares - Shar Tegral (VC) $100m - 10 shares - Shu Jia $100m - 10 shares - The Burninator $100m - 10 shares - TomHorn $100m - 10 shares - Khanid Voltar $100m - 10 shares - Dublin Kion $100m - 10 shares - Teya Ihara $100m - 10 shares - Lucius Arcturus $100m - 10 shares - Vikarion $100m - 10 shares - K'plar $100m - 10 shares - wodahs hunt $100m - 10 shares - Esan Vartesa $100m - 10 shares - Annabelle Horiz $100m - 10 shares - Valeria Audene $100m - 10 shares - Levija Saplina $100m - 10 shares - khai88 $100m - 10 shares - Adonis Peverell $50m - 5 shares - Cage Man $50m - 5 shares - Zaphariah
Total stock: $20.00b isk - 2000 shares Total: $1.90b isk - 190 shares public sold + $4.80b isk - 480 shares Amarrian loyalist sold Total: $6.70b isk - 680 shares sold total + $13.30b isk - Archbishop Majority Holding Total: $20.00b isk - Total Shares Sold/Reserved
Archie
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TomHorn
Caldari Horn and Brothers
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Posted - 2011.08.06 23:21:00 -
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100mill isk sent ,
Thankyou almighty Archbishop for granting me some stock in Archbishop Industries.
TH
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.07 02:07:00 -
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Isk sent
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K'plar
Gallente United Federation of Planetary Exploration
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Posted - 2011.08.07 04:48:00 -
[59]
isk sent
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.08.07 06:17:00 -
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ISK send |
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