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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.29 16:20:00 -
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Edited by: Stealing Honest on 29/07/2011 16:20:33
Greetings Investors
This is the SHSG "Crappy Space"- Trading Bond. This bond is very basic in nature, and will be short term 30days, and small sized 1b isk.
If you are an institutional investor, you will need to pass on this bond, as its set up for the small new/newer to the markets type of investors.
The idea of this bond is simple. I have opened a new trade satellite in a backwater, asscrack of a location in eve. I believe after doing some testing that i can make enough isk at this location to pay interest to my investors and retain sufficient profits for myself, without having to spend much time baby sitting the office.
The investors im looking for are smaller/newer investors who wish to try out investing at the lowest risk possible, (All investments are risky, so dont fool yourself into thinking this is 100% safe). There will be collateral to cover this bond, and the investors can decide how they want that collateral handled eg 3rd party, in hand, pooled, individual..yadda yadda.
Bond Shares: 2000 Price per share: 500k Total Bond Size: 1b Max Shares Per Investor: 200 Interest Rate: TBD Start Date:TBD End Date:TBD
This is the basic idea. Think it over, respond, and ill try to answer your questions. Thanks SH
Edit: added title..oops
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.07.29 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: khai88 on 29/07/2011 16:30:31 reserve 200share for me then pending interest rate
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.29 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: khai88 Edited by: khai88 on 29/07/2011 16:30:31 reserve 200share for me then pending interest rate
Added rates
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Rot Thun
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Posted - 2011.07.29 17:43:00 -
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How are you collateralizing the bond? Given your answer, I am interested in covering 500M of it.
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tastypotatoes
Minmatar Underway Mining and Ops
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Posted - 2011.07.29 20:00:00 -
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This would probably be perfect for me - I was looking for something to invest in but I don't have a gigantic amount of starting capital. I would be willing to go in for 50M.
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Kim Cho
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Posted - 2011.07.29 20:13:00 -
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I'd like to get in with 20 mil, I'm totally new to this investment stuff and a little bit sceptical... but i'd love to be proven wrong :)
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.29 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Rot Thun How are you collateralizing the bond? Given your answer, I am interested in covering 500M of it.
I have a range of things available, bpos, ships, mods, mins, ect. Its really your choice as an investor.
1. Collateral based @ 4% or Non collateral at 8.5% 2. Who holds the collateral if you pick that method, ie 3rd party, yourself, ect 3. What type of collateral is acceptable to you, if you chose that method.
I have to go have my back cracked, but when i get back ill add a reserved list. If you all dont mind please let me know what rate you wish to reserve.
Thanks SH
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Kim Cho
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Posted - 2011.07.29 20:32:00 -
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i'll go for 8,5% there
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tastypotatoes
Minmatar Underway Mining and Ops
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Posted - 2011.07.29 20:39:00 -
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8.5% for me as well
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.29 22:42:00 -
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added reserve list
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.07.30 02:45:00 -
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Edited by: khai88 on 30/07/2011 02:46:56 put me up on uncoll for the 200m part, any nice ship you can put up for the 1b col part, i can cover everything if rot don't want
PS: what is mins?
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morrosis
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Posted - 2011.07.30 05:19:00 -
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i'll take 50 at 8.5% .
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: khai88 Edited by: khai88 on 30/07/2011 02:46:56 put me up on uncoll for the 200m part, any nice ship you can put up for the 1b col part, i can cover everything if rot don't want
PS: what is mins?
Mins are minerals. Though not the preferred method, some people like them. But im easy going, and can produce a nice shiny ship or two to cover large chunks if someone wants their investment collateralized. Again its up to each investor how they want to go forward. The choice is all theirs/yours.
Reserve list updated.
SH
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Levija Saplina
Supremacy Inc. Not Found.
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Posted - 2011.07.30 15:18:00 -
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I'm interested but for some reason your share values are either screwed up or you didn't do the correct maths.
At 500k per share, why would 100 shares be 100 mil ?
"Non collateral 8.5%:
Kim Cho 20 shares @ 20m isk tastypotatoes 50 shares @ 50m isk khai88 200 @ 200m isk morrosis 50 shares @ 50m isk."
I would like to get 200 shares, uncollaterized (8.5% ROI), at 500k per as announced in the OP.
Which would be 100 mil isk.
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:38:00 -
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can you make kronos and some gel navy ship?
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.30 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Stealing Honest on 30/07/2011 23:32:44
Originally by: Levija Saplina I'm interested but for some reason your share values are either screwed up or you didn't do the correct maths.
At 500k per share, why would 100 shares be 100 mil ?
"Non collateral 8.5%:
Kim Cho 20 shares @ 20m isk tastypotatoes 50 shares @ 50m isk khai88 200 @ 200m isk morrosis 50 shares @ 50m isk."
I would like to get 200 shares, uncollaterized (8.5% ROI), at 500k per as announced in the OP.
Which would be 100 mil isk.
Ahh you are right,
I had made an adjustment on paper to make the shares smaller in cost, and didnt transfer it to the post correctly. Ill fix that now.
SH
Edit: Ok made the fixes
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.07.31 07:19:00 -
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honest i think you just put something worth 1.1b even to npc for col part of the bond is better then for invester to choice from, hard
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Pick en Tilavine
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Posted - 2011.07.31 14:33:00 -
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I'll take 200 shares. Please message me in game to confirm/let me know that you're ready and i'll send you the isk. Thanks, Pick
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.01 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: khai88 honest i think you just put something worth 1.1b even to npc for col part of the bond is better then for invester to choice from, hard
I think everyone understands that collateral is an option open to them.
Originally by: Pick en Tilavine I'll take 200 shares. Please message me in game to confirm/let me know that you're ready and i'll send you the isk. Thanks, Pick
Ive added you to the Undecided Rate - Reserve List. I'll send you a mail shortly.
SH
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.08.01 04:50:00 -
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Since Rot Thun hasn't replied back it looks like there are 210 shares left.
If it's ok with you I will take the 210 shares so this offer can get going. I'll put my ISK in the no collateral section.
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Pick en Tilavine
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Posted - 2011.08.01 14:16:00 -
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Sorry - no collateral for me either, thanks. Will send isk promptly.
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Pha Uhad
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Posted - 2011.08.01 15:15:00 -
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Stealing Honest,
What is the expected maturity date of said bond?
Pha |
Rot Thun
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Posted - 2011.08.01 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: Rot Thun on 01/08/2011 18:29:00 If I get to hold 500m worth of collateral, I will gladly loan you 500m at 4% a month. If you set up a personal contract (in high security space) with 500m worth of an acceptable collateral with a price of 500m, I can get to it tonight.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.01 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Pha Uhad Stealing Honest,
What is the expected maturity date of said bond?
Pha
The maturity date will be 30 days after launch date (that date has not been set yet).
Originally by: Ariana DeSoto Since Rot Thun hasn't replied back it looks like there are 210 shares left.
If it's ok with you I will take the 210 shares so this offer can get going. I'll put my ISK in the no collateral section.
There are actually 1210 shares left, they are 500k each. Im trying to limit shares to 200 per person, so that the smaller/newer investors have a chance at investment.
Originally by: Rot Thun Edited by: Rot Thun on 01/08/2011 18:29:00 If I get to hold 500m worth of collateral, I will gladly loan you 500m at 4% a month. If you set up a personal contract (in high security space) with 500m worth of an acceptable collateral with a price of 500m, I can get to it tonight.
As i was saying to Ariana, i am limiting investors to 200 shares each, so that newer/smaller investors have a chance.
I will put you down for 200 shares @ 4% w/ collateral of 100m held by you , if you wish.
SH
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.08.02 00:38:00 -
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Just sent 100m. Put me down for no collateral.
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Rot Thun
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Posted - 2011.08.02 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest
As i was saying to Ariana, i am limiting investors to 200 shares each, so that newer/smaller investors have a chance.
I will put you down for 200 shares @ 4% w/ collateral of 100m held by you , if you wish.
SH
Apologies, I must have glossed over the 100m max investment. Please do not put me down for any investment. Too much trouble for 4m.
Good luck in your endeavor!
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tastypotatoes
Minmatar Underway Mining and Ops
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Posted - 2011.08.02 17:59:00 -
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Edited by: tastypotatoes on 02/08/2011 18:00:11 In game message sent! Hope all goes well!
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.02 19:41:00 -
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What possible purpose could this bond serve but to increase your positive reputation and generate trust?
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.03 00:51:00 -
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Edited by: Stealing Honest on 03/08/2011 00:54:22
Originally by: Rot Thun
Originally by: Stealing Honest
As i was saying to Ariana, i am limiting investors to 200 shares each, so that newer/smaller investors have a chance.
I will put you down for 200 shares @ 4% w/ collateral of 100m held by you , if you wish.
SH
Apologies, I must have glossed over the 100m max investment. Please do not put me down for any investment. Too much trouble for 4m.
Good luck in your endeavor!
No worries, maybe next time.
Originally by: tastypotatoes Edited by: tastypotatoes on 02/08/2011 18:00:11 In game message sent! Hope all goes well!
Sent reply, you can mail, convo me, or post here if you need more info.
Thanks SH
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Malum Pravus
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Posted - 2011.08.08 15:48:00 -
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I'll take 200 shares @ 8.5% if they are still available.
Thanks
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