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Kazuko Isu
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.08.01 18:19:00 -
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Hello everyone,
This is my first post. I am a brand new player to eve. All I can say is wow, what a massive game it is. The learning curve looks to be quite huge.
So far the people I have met online have been great. As a matter of fact, my first night playing I got stuck on a level one mission and asked for help in local chat. Not only did someone come and help me out, he deposited 10 mil in my wallet. Who does that? That alone made me want to be a part of this community. I have since upgraded my trial acct to an active subscription.
I have been playing for about 2 weeks. I have mostly just been running security missions for the Caldari Navy. I have level 3 missions opened up, but I don't think I am ready to tackle them yet. My question is, how does one figure out what direction to go in this game. I mean, I tried mining and didn't like it at all. I like running missions and would like to PvP also. Should I just keep running missions and building up skills before I try to seek a corp? I feel like I couldn't contribute much yet. Any thoughts or advise welcome.
Thanks again and I hope to see y'all in game.
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Disastro
Wrecking Shots
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Posted - 2011.08.01 18:49:00 -
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Running missions will prove more lucrative than mining once you get to level 4 missions. Until then mining can be more profitable.
However....
The skills which you spend time learning for mining are not useful in any way for Pvp. Many of the skills you learn for mission running are also useful for pvp skills. Skills related to weaponry and defense are always helpful to you later on when fighting other players.
You will discover at some point, though, that missile skills are not generally desired for pvp in eve online. Missiles are slow and guns are not.
For learning about PVP there are many places where you can begin. The suggestions are listed in many other posts here but I will rehash the obvious ones:
1. Faction warfare - you can join the militia or you can find a corp that is fighting on one side or the other. Most people recommend a corp because they tend to be more active and helpful to members and you do not have to earn standings first before joining.
2. Red vs Blue - two corps that have a constant mutual war dec. They accept new members. They do not pod kill each other. They fly cheap ships. PVP is limited to a certain few systems and folks can go elswhere and make money without too much fear of war targets hunting them. They do, however, draw some neutral war decs and those guys will hunt you.
3. PVP training corps and universities - eve uni and agony empire and a number of other corps/alliances teach pvp to new players in eve.
Not all of these are great at "teaching" you. Most kind of give you the opportunity to find fights and leave the learning up to you. Some do teach. Some give fitting suggestions. I have never been a member of any of them so i cannot comment upon that.
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.08.01 18:53:00 -
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Take a look at the Career agents missions, and then join a Corp geared towards acclimatising newbies like Eve University.
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Johnson Johnson
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.01 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Disastro 2. Red vs Blue - two corps that have a constant mutual war dec. They accept new members. They do not pod kill each other. They fly cheap ships. PVP is limited to a certain few systems and folks can go elswhere and make money without too much fear of war targets hunting them. They do, however, draw some neutral war decs and those guys will hunt you.
good advice, I can't think of a better initial experience to get a new player hooked on EvE. hope to fly with/shoot at you soon.
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yopparai
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Posted - 2011.08.01 19:53:00 -
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Keep running missions, and while you are running missions start showing info on some of the other players in system. Check out the corp they are in, and if their corp seems appealing to you strike up a conversation with the pilot and see where it goes from there.
Even at your young age you can contribute to a corp. Either by helping salvage or kill the frig/cruisers for a corp mate running lvl4 missions. For pvp gangs you can never have to many tacklers, and it doesn't take many skill points to fit a decent tackle ship.
Yopp
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.08.01 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuko Isu Should I just keep running missions and building up skills before I try to seek a corp? I feel like I couldn't contribute much yet. Any thoughts or advise welcome.
Don't wait. Even as a beginner you can contribute to a corp/alliance. And it's the corp's/alliance's job to train and invest in you to become a better pilot.
For example:
When a corp goes on a PvP op they usually stick the more experienced, better skilled players in the bigger, more damage oriented ships as they can use them more effectively. However, such large ships have trouble finding and pinning down ships smaller than them. This is where you come in.
As a new player, you are largely limited to smaller ships. Despite your lacking skills, smaller ships are inherently better at flying fast and quickly locking up targets. This means you can scout ahead and see if there is anything to be killed or is on the way to kill you or you can nab something that has just come through the stargate. The downside with smaller ships is that they are quite fragile and may not see out the end of the fight. But this is to be expected. The good news is that this "problem" is offset by the fact that small ships are cheap and easily replaced (and if you are in a good corp, the fleet will reimburse your loss and then some). _______________________
"Just because I seem like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
Phugoid
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Posted - 2011.08.01 20:10:00 -
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Hi, and welcome to Eve!
Couple things, just remember that just like in real life there are "bad" people in Eve also. Dont be bummed out when your ship is destroyed for no reason by someone. It has happened to everyone. And mining isnt that bad really. Once you have better skills and a better mining ship, you'll see that at the very least you can make a few mil here and there mining, at first. plus there smore ways to make more, but thats rushing it.
Also, remember that CONCORD does not protect you, they punish the offender.....
And sure, keep running missions, and eventually you'll run into people and you'll be invited into a corp. Just do what makes it fun for you in Eve... lots of possibilities :)
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Kazuko Isu
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.08.01 21:51:00 -
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Hi all, thanks for all the great responses!
I think I will check into a pve/pvp noob friendly corp. I had thought about a pvp training corp, but pvp is not all I want to do. I think maybe a corp that does both is right down my alley.
Thanks again.
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Orlacc
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Posted - 2011.08.02 00:54:00 -
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Look at this:
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
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Ston Momaki
Caldari Disciples of Ston
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Posted - 2011.08.02 03:17:00 -
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I think what makes this game unique is the people and the personalities. Take your time deciding what you want to do and take advantage of the social aspects of the game. Its the best part.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
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Posted - 2011.08.03 01:29:00 -
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In EVE, every gain and loss is your own fault.
If you keep this in mind, and are actually courteous and good humored to the people that just wiped the floor with you, you will go far in EVE, make many friends, and have a lot of fun along the way.
If you kick and scream, cry, complain, EMO rage, etc., you won't last long in EVE or enjoy it.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.08.03 08:31:00 -
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Edited by: Toshiro GreyHawk on 03/08/2011 08:32:05
Yeah, I don't have any better advice than what's posted ... just one comment ...
When some other player screws you out of a lot more than 10 million ISK ... one way or the other ... remember that nice guy who helped you out when you were new. It could actually be the same guy. Probably not ... but ... blowing each other up and scamming other players out of their money - is all legitimate game play in EVE.
Spend some time over in the Crime & Punishment forum ...
I'm glad you've had an initially positive experience - just be prepared for when things turn to **** ...
Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. That means - if you can't buy two of them - you can't afford to fly one of them ...
GL & Fly Safe.
. Orbiting vs. Kiting Career Agents
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Kazuko Isu
Caldari Dathmora Redanni
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Posted - 2011.08.03 16:15:00 -
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More good responses, thanks. I have read some horror stories about players getting done wrong and I understand it is part of the game. I won't let a few bad people ruin my experience.
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Kesshisan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.04 04:33:00 -
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Hello and welcome to EvE.
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Phugoid
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Posted - 2011.08.09 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuko Isu More good responses, thanks. I have read some horror stories about players getting done wrong and I understand it is part of the game. I won't let a few bad people ruin my experience.
Alot of the advice given is dead on! About a month ago i was close to reaching 2 billion in total ISKs in my wallet, now im at a lil over 1 billion! How?
Well, a couple of ganks with hi collaterals, and refitting an Itty V (that got ganked agn!).... and all that was about 1 bill in losses/expenses.
Of course, all in hi-sec. And yes, wasnt happy bout it. The ship losses werent that bad, it was the collateral losses that really hurt. Anywaz, my point is that I chose the courier runs, and I KNEW there is a risk. I actually learned a few things from one of the gankees :) I did convo w him and he gave me a few pointers on how to improve my chances of surviving for the next time......
So yes, it gonna take me a few months to make up the losses, but hey, I still love the game. At the very least Im a bit "smarter" now and have a more keen eye on what to watch out for.
Someone earlier said to keep 2 ships around for what u expect to lose...thats great advise....in EVE its almost a guarantee one way or another you will lose your ship!..... Just dont give up the game! :)
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
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Posted - 2011.08.09 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Phugoid Someone earlier said to keep 2 ships around for what u expect to lose...thats great advise....in EVE its almost a guarantee one way or another you will lose your ship!..... Just dont give up the game! :)
I own many ships, and have billions in my wallet, but I keep one fitted level 4 mission ship set aside for a rainy day.
I don't want to go back to level 1 missions in a rookie ship.
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E man Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.09 20:23:00 -
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Every noobie should read the advice in this thread.
______ Hello WoW players. Look at your toon, now back to me. Sadly it isn't me, but if it wasn't simplistic pre scripted linear mono dimensional game you could look like me. I'm in a Paladin |
Kazuko Isu
Caldari Dathmora Redanni
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Posted - 2011.08.09 21:42:00 -
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Hello all, Thanks for still more great responses. I have taken some of the advise posted in this thread. I joined a corp with some really helpful people in it. They actually built me a Drake so I could start running lvl 3 missions. Since then I have bought a second Drake in case I lose one Since I realize that isk is very important in Eve, I decided to get a second account and train him to salvage my missions for me. I got him a Noctis and put him to work last night.
I am having a great time and I love this community, you guys are awesome. If anyone else has anymore words of wisdom, please respond.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.08.09 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuko Isu
I am having a great time and I love this community, you guys are awesome. If anyone else has anymore words of wisdom, please respond.
W-What is this? Happiness? Gratitude? Ewwwwwwwwwwww...
No seriously... that's WAY too "perky" for EVE. Use more grunts and grudging "thanks" around here... acting cynical and bitter is the only defense against being cynical and bitter here. _______________________
"Just because I seem like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
Thornat
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Posted - 2011.08.10 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander In EVE, every gain and loss is your own fault.
If you keep this in mind, and are actually courteous and good humored to the people that just wiped the floor with you, you will go far in EVE, make many friends, and have a lot of fun along the way.
If you kick and scream, cry, complain, EMO rage, etc., you won't last long in EVE or enjoy it.
Best advice I have seen in Eve in 6 years. Its right on the money. Your attitude towards people who are trying to kill you has to be positive. They are doing what they do, you are doing what you do. Its not personal, if you take it personal and start raging.. well lets just say that reputions have a way of coming full circle. If you notice, on each character you click you have a little notes section where you can write your own personal note to yourself about a particular person. Its a great way to remind yourself of who is who and people do use it, at least I do. Raging in Local is a sure fire way to muddy the waters for yourself and nothing positive will ever come of it for you. Stay cool and come to terms with losses with a smile and you will enjoy Eve a hell of a lot more than the many whiny babies that come on this forum to cry about getting blown up.
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