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Juliek Fiornis
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Posted - 2011.08.04 17:57:00 -
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Made a full withdrawal request around 36 hours ago and still no response from Phaser Inc. They say on their webpage to just invite them to a convo or send them a message. I have done both and niether have been responded too. Get out while you can.
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Lady Spank
Amarr In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.08.04 18:11:00 -
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This is the investment corp dude that flies around empire spamming the same stupid advert in local endlessly right?
There was a clue buried in there ~somehow~ about how this is blatantly a scam.
Congratulations on falling for the obvious.
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.08.04 18:27:00 -
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I must admit, Phaser has come up with a brilliant scam there. It almost sounds like a plausible source of isk, except for the whole "give us money" part. I can't heal stupid
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Nathan Jameson
Talocan Vanguard Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.08.04 19:38:00 -
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There are almost as many threads on these forums about Phaser Inc. being a scam as there are about Goonswarm renting scams.
Just think about it for a minute.
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Feligast
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.04 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Nathan Jameson There are almost as many threads on these forums about Phaser Inc. being a scam as there are about Goonswarm renting scams.
Just think about it for a minute.
Please, good sir, do not sully the name of Goonswarm Federation by calling us "renter scammers."
It's a SECURITY DEPOSIT. Thank you for your time.
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Darius III
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.08.04 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Feligast
Please, good sir, do not sully the name of Goonswarm Federation by calling us "renter scammers."
It's a SECURITY DEPOSIT. Thank you for your time.
I love the "Goosnswarm scammed me threads" Thanks for clearing up that it isn't a scam, and is just a 'security deposit'. Never stop posting!
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Griznatch
Gallente Xicron Syndicate Double Tap Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.04 20:39:00 -
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Who woulda thought handing over some isk in exchange for absolutely nothing of any value was a bad idea?
Quote: whats a signature?
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Feligast
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.04 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Darius III I love the "Goosnswarm scammed me threads" Thanks for clearing up that it isn't a scam, and is just a 'security deposit'. Never stop posting!
Never not post, sir. Our posting is our life.
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Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.04 21:39:00 -
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It's been pretty obvious that Phaser would turn out to be a scam from the start. Eve banks are ALWAYS scams. ______
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Thatsbecause
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Posted - 2011.08.04 21:43:00 -
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The guy advertises 5% PER WEEK. It's one of the most obvious scams ever. More obvious then putting a Raven in a contract and saying it's a CNR. |
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Juliek Fiornis
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Posted - 2011.08.04 22:06:00 -
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Withdrawal recieved lol.
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Killie
Minmatar Loki's Marauders Dragoons.
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Posted - 2011.08.04 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Killie on 04/08/2011 23:45:45 I have a bit of money invested with them, site is slick, haven't had trouble so far. *shrug*
If I lose my money.... well.... so sad
*edit* also it is pretty easy to make 5% off of money you put into the market.... sometimes I would make 100% on the market just setting up buy orders for certain ammo types. If you can imagine the amount of cash they have to buy up stocks of items and the power they have to manipulate the market, they can EASILY cover the 5% per week compared to the amount per week they can make on the initial investment.
On a side note... it seems like an awful lot of work to hand out payouts every week and create a VERY nice website with db functions and a record of all payouts/investments just to scam some people out of isk. If it's a scam, I'm fooled, and use phaser inc to get around 90 mil a week payouts with no problems at all so far.
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Thatsbecause
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Posted - 2011.08.05 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Killie Edited by: Killie on 04/08/2011 23:45:45 also it is pretty easy to make 5% off of money you put into the market.... sometimes I would make 100% on the market
Wow, with your ability to get a 100% return on investment over the course of a single week, then you're quite silly to invest with someone who can only get you 1/20th of what you can do yourself. |
Taedrin
Gallente Zero Percent Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.08.05 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Thatsbecause
Originally by: Killie Edited by: Killie on 04/08/2011 23:45:45 also it is pretty easy to make 5% off of money you put into the market.... sometimes I would make 100% on the market
Wow, with your ability to get a 100% return on investment over the course of a single week, then you're quite silly to invest with someone who can only get you 1/20th of what you can do yourself.
Sometimes it is difficult/impossible to leverage all of your ISK. And even if you could, many of the investment opportunities are not very liquid/solvent. "Banks" would (theoretically) exist as a temporary investment for you to deposit/withdraw from so that your spare ISK is not left to rot in your wallet.
Of course, Phaser Inc. has all the makings of a scam, really. They offer rates which are quite honestly too good to be true. 5% interest WEEKLY? Most investment opportunities on M&D offer no more than 10% MONTHLY. There comes a point where you have to ask yourself: what are these guys getting out of this deal? How in the world can they give me a 21.55% monthly interest rate on my investment, and also still make enough profit of their own to keep themselves happy?
My only answer to this is that it is either a ponzi scheme, or a charity. And charities RARELY exist as investment opporunities. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Nathan Jameson
Talocan Vanguard Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.08.05 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Killie On a side note... it seems like an awful lot of work to hand out payouts every week and create a VERY nice website with db functions and a record of all payouts/investments just to scam some people out of isk.
>_>
*not sure if serious*
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.08.05 08:20:00 -
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Still in doubt if i should start crying or laughing ...
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Talia Nachtigall
Caldari Hidden Souls
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Posted - 2011.08.05 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Juliek Fiornis Made a full withdrawal request around 36 hours ago and still no response from Phaser Inc. They say on their webpage to just invite them to a convo or send them a message. I have done both and niether have been responded too. Get out while you can.
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and consciencious stupidity.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2011.08.05 11:16:00 -
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I don't even know who Phaser is and yet I'd never sent him isk. Or maybe even more for that reason.. I'd aim for someone more well-known or reliable. On these particular boards a few springs to mind; Lady Spank, Kumq uat, xXxSatsujinxXx etc. -
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Killie
Minmatar Loki's Marauders Dragoons.
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Posted - 2011.08.05 22:12:00 -
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Well I suppose I'm stupid or ignorant, however I've almost received my initial investment back in payouts already so.... pretty soon they won't have made ANY isk off of me whatsoever. Believe whatever you want, *shrug*.
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Killie
Minmatar Loki's Marauders Dragoons.
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Posted - 2011.08.05 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Griznatch Who woulda thought handing over some isk in exchange for absolutely nothing of any value was a bad idea?
I guess whoever invented the stock market.... or investment banks....?
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Powie XIII
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Posted - 2011.08.06 05:41:00 -
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Originally by: Juliek Fiornis Withdrawal recieved lol.
thread close? AFAIK, Phaser Inc. has been around for awhile. Good thing you got your isk back.
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Diesel47
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Posted - 2011.08.06 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Juliek Fiornis Withdrawal recieved lol.
I'm smart so I'll share my insight.
Phaser scammer sees this thread, wants to keep his name good. Gives one forum complaining client their isk back and save his company name.
Scam lives on, phaser is still a scam and if you give them money you deserve to lose it.
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Clap Clap
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Posted - 2011.08.06 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: Diesel47 Edited by: Diesel47 on 06/08/2011 08:37:14
Originally by: Juliek Fiornis Withdrawal recieved lol.
I'm smart so I'll share my insight.
Phaser scammer sees this thread, wants to keep his name good. Gives one forum complaining client their isk back and saves his company name.
Scam lives on, phaser is still a scam and if you give them money you deserve to lose it.
or even better , OP is a Phaser alt .
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.06 10:14:00 -
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There is not such thing as bad publicity.
Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |
Clap Clap
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Posted - 2011.08.06 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Coffe's Babe There is not such thing as bad publicity.
of course there is , since in the end he got his money = the bussiness is legit . It might be as well just a "MOTHER****ING SCAMMERS , THEY STOLE MY PIXELS !!! OH WAIT , THEY`RE LEGIT , I`M SORRY ... THEY`RE GOOD GUYS , INVEST IN THEM" thread |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.06 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Aiwha I must admit, Phaser has come up with a brilliant scam there. It almost sounds like a plausible source of isk, except for the whole "give us money" part.
I agree accept for the "brilliant" part. It doesn't take 2 brain cells to rub together to come up with these scams. It would be different if it was somehow an original idea but it's not.
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Nunchuck Norris
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Posted - 2011.08.06 19:48:00 -
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Edited by: Nunchuck Norris on 06/08/2011 19:49:15 just a random post , not sure how much credibility i have , but i can assure you this quote is real :
I made a thread today to sell a char , then i got a client who said he will get the isk later in the evening ... and one word to another he said he has money in Phaser and he will send the isk as soon as he will get cashed out. At that moment i was "oh snap , the deal will fall" , but then ...
[ 2011.08.06 16:30:30 ] Rvaksha > so just convo me when you`ll have the isk , i might be semi-afk like i am now , but if i get a sign from you i`ll stay ingame [ 2011.08.06 16:30:34 ] Rvaksha > cu later then o/ [ 2011.08.06 16:32:23 ] Prototype 00 > i will take at 9.15 this evening will be in a acouple of hours depending on phaser [ 2011.08.06 16:32:55 ] Prototype 00 > 9.15b this evening i meant lol [ 2011.08.06 16:33:35 ] Prototype 00 > im going to post on the thread, if you would be so good to confirm [ 2011.08.06 16:35:52 ] Rvaksha > oh **** ... you have so much money in Phaser ? [ 2011.08.06 16:36:09 ] Rvaksha > i`ve heard it`s a scam / ponzi scheme ... [ 2011.08.06 16:36:38 ] Rvaksha > how much did you invested ? [ 2011.08.06 16:36:58 ] Prototype 00 > not a scam, been using them for months [ 2011.08.06 16:37:10 ] Prototype 00 > so do most of my corp, it is legit [ 2011.08.06 16:37:20 ] Rvaksha > ... i hope so ^^ [ 2011.08.06 16:37:33 ] Prototype 00 > well touch wodd i never had an issue yet in 6 months :) [ 2011.08.06 16:37:45 ] Prototype 00 > they always paid the 20 or so of us out :) [ 2011.08.06 16:37:50 ] Rvaksha > they gave you 5% of your money every week ? [ 2011.08.06 16:38:22 ] Prototype 00 > yup [ 2011.08.06 16:38:25 ] Prototype 00 > 5.2 last week [ 2011.08.06 16:38:29 ] Rvaksha > sweet oO [ 2011.08.06 16:38:51 ] Rvaksha > well ... then keep in touch [ 2011.08.06 16:39:04 ] Prototype 00 > goes straight into my wallet, but i need to with draw some of it to top the wallet up for your character, once they paid it out I will send an eve mail and the needed isk [ 2011.08.06 16:39:10 ] Rvaksha > if you can`t withdraw your money tonight , i will keep the deadline running [ 2011.08.06 16:39:19 ] Rvaksha > ok ? [ 2011.08.06 16:39:34 ] Prototype 00 > ok, but shouldnt be a problem, can you post to that effect in the thread? [ 2011.08.06 16:39:50 ] Rvaksha > tonight means in ... how many hours ? [ 2011.08.06 16:39:57 ] Rvaksha > cause not sure if i keep myself in game that much [ 2011.08.06 16:40:09 ] Prototype 00 > no longer then 4 I would guess [ 2011.08.06 16:40:23 ] Prototype 00 > I can send you the isk if you are offline that isnt an issue [ 2011.08.06 16:40:24 ] Rvaksha > hrrrr
[ 2011.08.06 18:43:12 ] Prototype 00 > hey mate [ 2011.08.06 18:43:15 ] Prototype 00 > isk received [ 2011.08.06 18:43:20 ] Prototype 00 > ready to xfer [ 2011.08.06 18:46:08 ] Prototype 00 > isk sent, pls confirm receipt [ 2011.08.06 18:47:31 ] Rvaksha > yo [ 2011.08.06 18:47:32 ] Rvaksha > back [ 2011.08.06 18:47:36 ] Prototype 00 > welcome back [ 2011.08.06 18:47:49 ] Rvaksha > the account is xxxxxx ? [ 2011.08.06 18:47:53 ] Prototype 00 > yup [ 2011.08.06 18:48:04 ] Prototype 00 > see, phaser is legit ;)
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Sindeya Shimaya
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Posted - 2011.08.06 21:58:00 -
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You sir, have obviously not understood Ponzi Schemes.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.08.06 22:04:00 -
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Every money making opportunity posted in local is legit. Trust me on this. - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring |
Nunchuck Norris
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Posted - 2011.08.06 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sindeya Shimaya You sir, have obviously not understood Ponzi Schemes.
yes i did , all i said is that at this point , Phaser hasn`t started the scamming part , if there is a scamming part .
Since they returned 9b without any problem (assuming the guy who bought my char was telling the truth and had all the 9b in Phaser), it means they must have a damn huge capital , and if they wanted to scam they would have scammed already .
just my two cents ... i shared a thing that i encountered tonight and was related to Phaser , no point in acting so allmighty
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