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Johanne D'Arc
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:28:00 -
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1. What is a delay bubble?
Am I to understand correctly that it is a bubble launched AFTER someone has initiated warp but before they actually warp. The idea being to startle the victim into failing to cancel warp and burn away. Well, the ultimate idea being to stop them warping but you know what I mean, trick them into feeling safe enough to simply warp without burning away from gate first. Works best with a cloak I assume.
2. Can someone confirm that bubbles DO in fact still stop people from warping OUT even if they have already initiated warp (but not actually warped obviously).
3. Similar to 2 can I pop a drag bubble and draw people that have only initiated their warp to gate. I understand if they are already mid-warp this does not work.
Thank you for your time.
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Mfume Apocal
Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.08.07 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Johanne D'Arc 2. Can someone confirm that bubbles DO in fact still stop people from warping OUT even if they have already initiated warp (but not actually warped obviously).
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Quote: 3. Similar to 2 can I pop a drag bubble and draw people that have only initiated their warp to gate. I understand if they are already mid-warp this does not work.
Nope, your bubble will only 'catch' people who initiate warp AFTER it's deployed. It's different than the 'stop' mechanic of 2.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.08.07 10:01:00 -
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Edited by: Othran on 07/08/2011 10:05:09
Originally by: Johanne D'Arc 1. What is a delay bubble?
Its what it says - a bubble to delay people.
Example - Scenario is you got a load of enemies appearing within a couple of systems or so. You can't handle them all at once and they are all after you.
So what you do is use a dictor to drop bubbles to delay the enemy. He has to do this without getting aggressed and he has to do it behind your main fleet. So for example he might drop a bubble 75km in front of gate, burn to gate, jump, pop bubble, burn out and warp to next gate. Enemy warps into 75km bubble and has to burn to gate, faster ships jump into next system first, get caught in that bubble etc etc.
Its pretty difficult to do with a solo dictor because as soon as the first enemy hits the first bubble you will have aggro and gate jump delays. Edit - its pretty much impossible to do effectively unless your dictor is double bubble.
You can also use it to break up your enemy into manageable groups which you can then engage.
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Sphit Ker
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.08.07 10:48:00 -
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Think of a bubble as an area of effect disruptor with infinite strength (as in no amount of WCS will let you warp from within it's AoE). It "catch" ships by highjacking it's landing point. That point is defined the moment "warping" appears on your speedometer.
Bubbling up while target is mid warp? No catch. Bubble is up before target hit warp? Catched!
Bubbling techniques nomenclature seam not universal. I.E. What the guy above me described as "delay" is what I know as a "speed bump" bubble. What I know as "delayed" is waiting for the target to break gate cloak before bubbling up. It works for peeps that break cloak by hitting the warp button, immediately engaging the warp drive. The bubble goes up, cancelling the warp and stopping the ship, too.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.08.07 11:08:00 -
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Edited by: Othran on 07/08/2011 11:10:03
Originally by: Sphit Ker Bubbling techniques nomenclature seam not universal.
Indeed. I don't think I've ever heard anyone call your "delayed" bubble anything. Its just common sense really isn't it?
I like "speed bump" though
There's drag/push/pull/stop bubbles - its all the same just different words. Not surprising given the many people who play who aren't native English speakers. A "pull bubble" probably makes more sense than a "drag bubble" to a non-native English speaker. Same thing though.
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Arran Chace
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Posted - 2011.08.07 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Othran Edited by: Othran on 07/08/2011 11:10:03
There's drag/push/pull/stop bubbles - its all the same just different words. Not surprising given the many people who play who aren't native English speakers. A "pull bubble" probably makes more sense than a "drag bubble" to a non-native English speaker. Same thing though.
Drag and pull bubbles are not the same.
When talking about them being bubbles yes. But one type is put in front of a gate between two or more gates, the other is dropped away from a gate but in line with them. The first one means you'll have to fly through the bubble to get to the gate fast and is easier to drop because you can warp at range. The other is harder to place but means an opponent will have to turn around in order to get back to a gate which generally takes longer... If they immediately speed up after getting out of warp they'll end up further away from a gate and inside the bubble.
The drag bubble being the type that drags you further away while the pull bubble pulls you out of warp early. Still it depends what names are used in your corp/alliance and even then there can still be confusion over naming and type. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.08.07 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Arran Chace
Originally by: Othran Edited by: Othran on 07/08/2011 11:10:03
There's drag/push/pull/stop bubbles - its all the same just different words. Not surprising given the many people who play who aren't native English speakers. A "pull bubble" probably makes more sense than a "drag bubble" to a non-native English speaker. Same thing though.
Drag and pull bubbles are not the same.
When talking about them being bubbles yes. But one type is put in front of a gate between two or more gates, the other is dropped away from a gate but in line with them. The first one means you'll have to fly through the bubble to get to the gate fast and is easier to drop because you can warp at range. The other is harder to place but means an opponent will have to turn around in order to get back to a gate which generally takes longer... If they immediately speed up after getting out of warp they'll end up further away from a gate and inside the bubble.
The drag bubble being the type that drags you further away while the pull bubble pulls you out of warp early. Still it depends what names are used in your corp/alliance and even then there can still be confusion over naming and type.
A classic demo of how we all call things differently. Pull/drag are the same to me, as are push/stop.
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