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IceFyre S18
Zulu Labs Zulu People
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Posted - 2011.08.08 18:19:00 -
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A simple question: How much at what % monthly anybody of you will invest in a 100% secured business? 100% Chribba secured in pure ISK or undervalued items.
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OllieNorth
Gallente R-K Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.08 18:20:00 -
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It seems like 5% is a pretty solid bet, from what I have seen.
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Tekota
The Freighter Factory
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Posted - 2011.08.08 18:26:00 -
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Though if it's secured in pure ISK you could save the Chribba fee and I'll hold both the pure isk collateral and lend you the cash - you send me the pure isk collateral, then I send you the pure isk loan, then at the end of the loan period I send you back your pure isk collateral and you send me back the pure isk loan + interest.
ie. pure isk collateral is a teensy bit silly
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IceFyre S18
Zulu Labs Zulu People
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Posted - 2011.08.08 18:33:00 -
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There are couple of tricks about inflation/deflation, but that's another issue... Anyways, you have interesting point there, I'll think about.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.08 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: IceFyre S18 A simple question: How much at what % monthly anybody of you will invest in a 100% secured business? 100% Chribba secured in pure ISK or undervalued items.
It all depends on how fast you want to fill the bond. I would think that you could get at least 350bil at 3% if it was secured by Chribba and the collateral was of the correct type. This is going on the basis of Grendell's recent 350bil bond, which did fill but took something like six weeks, if I remember correctly. One point to note, however, is that Grendell got a lower rate than 3% because he launched it as his own bond and is, thus, personally on the hook for the interest payments and any collateral fluctuations. If the bond launches under your name then those things will attach to you, adding a small amount to the risk. If you want it to fill faster you may need to offer more interest.
As to collateral, pure isk is surprisingly risky because it means that the bond is complately unnecessary and thus tells the investor that there are other agendas at work. This may well scare quite a few off but I would think that plenty would still be willing to take up the offer because Chribba's name might provide a comfort balnket despite worries over why you would want to run a bond under those conditions. Non-isk collateral should not be anything remotely speculative, given the bond size. People will likely have concerns of varying degrees with anything other than T1 blueprints. Some of these issues would, though, be mitigated to some extent by a smaller bond size and by the % over 100% of the collateral value.
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IceFyre S18
Zulu Labs Zulu People
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Posted - 2011.08.08 20:36:00 -
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Thank you RAW, that is really helpfull. I'll work on basic details and put the bond offer soon.
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