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EMO JAck
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Posted - 2011.08.09 03:56:00 -
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Edited by: EMO JAck on 09/08/2011 03:56:44 This debate is old and worn out. The anser is simple dont fly gali alone! Gali ships are a finnisher someone tackles and the brutix comes to mudlates them. I do think its crap that Mimmi ships can match us on dps and have the speed to dictate range. If you want to ballance things a 10% bonus to speed on galli battle cruisers. This is not a huge thing but would make them much move viable.
Stats for gank shield cane. 49515 ehp 11442 shield 67 dps passive tank Dps 789 w/425s Range 1.7-16 1475 m/s
Stats for Brutix with 10% speed bonus 51550 ehp 10797 Sheild 64 dps passive tank DPS 860 w/neutrons Range 2.3-6.3 Speed 1223.2
Or for all you haters who will cry tier 1 BC vs tier 2
Stats for active tanked Cyclone 33591 Ehp 7265 214 active tank DPS 643 w/425s range 1.5+12 Speed 1311
Bases on Llvl 5 skills
The cane remains king beating the brutix on all fronts accept DPS but with the massive range advantage as well as speed it is well worth it. As for the brutix vs the cyclone its a close match much closer than the base brutix. The extra bit of speed makes it much more able to catch those pesky kites.
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Lady Spank
Amarr In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.08.09 05:19:00 -
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anser Gali finnisher mudlates mimmi ballance state bases llvl 5 accept kites
Nevermind the random STAT diarrhoea, what are these words you are using? ~~~
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Logan230
Caldari Society of the Scruff
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Posted - 2011.08.09 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank anser Gali finnisher mudlates mimmi ballance state bases llvl 5 accept kites
Nevermind the random STAT diarrhoea, what are these words you are using?
+1 good sir
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.08.09 06:11:00 -
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Those stats you are posting there look pretty low. Either it's a "lack of proper skills" issue or it's a "fittings" issue. Since we can't see you stats... post your fittings so we may laugh help you. _______________________
"Just because I seem like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
EMO JAck
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Posted - 2011.08.10 03:10:00 -
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Engrish. Full gank fit no implants or boosters on a lvl5 toon
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Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.08.10 06:00:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 10/08/2011 06:05:58
Comparing tier 1 to tier 2 on equal footing is badsauce. You were getting towards a relevant conversation with the comparison of the Brutix with the Cyclone, though the two have radically different flight styles that make their raw stats inappropriate to compare on a 1-for-1 basis anyway. I won't disagree that there might be room for modifications, nerfs, boosts, diversification or what have you with the battlecruisers as a class in general (though I think the tier 1's are all good as they are), but you're starting out on the wrong foot by comparing one to other ships that have little inherent similarity apart from a shared size-class.
Bigger problems are how the Hurricane makes the Rupture's existence questionable, how the Brutix makes the Deimos seem lolfully underwhelming for its cost, and how the Drake drakes.
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TaluxA
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Posted - 2011.08.10 11:01:00 -
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Yes I have been mudlated by gallente ships. It's very sad.
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freshspree
Caldari Dissonance Corp
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Posted - 2011.08.12 21:06:00 -
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How did you get 789 dps on a cane with only 6 425mms? enlighten me.
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Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.13 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: freshspree How did you get 789 dps on a cane with only 6 425mms? enlighten me.
[Hurricane, Hurricane fit]
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot]
[Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot]
Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II [Empty Low slot] [Empty Low slot] [Empty Low slot]
[Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot]
Hobgoblin II x5
788 dps
Or.... [Hurricane, Hurricane fit2]
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile
[Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot]
Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II [Empty Low slot] [Empty Low slot] [Empty Low slot]
[Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot]
Hobgoblin II x5
788dps again!
How can I get 1 extra dps without doing anything weird!? Also, I find it highly amusing how switching from Hail has the same dps as RF Fusion + 2 HAMs.
You get 860dps from Hail and 2 HAMs w/ CN Ammo. You get 868dps from Hail and 2 HAMs w/ Rage Ammo. You get 985dps from Hail and 2 HAMs w/ Rage Ammo overheated.
Hail is awesome if you can deal with the 0.7x tracking "bonus" (and a negative bonus is a penalty). EVE always always words things so weirdly.
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