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Lugia3
Shydow Imperium
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Posted - 2012.09.23 00:09:00 -
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I noticed many people have different ideas on what they would like with the upcoming POS overhaul. I have seen suggestions ranging from deployable ships like Rorqs to bases that cloak in deadspace while its operator is away. Here is what I would personally like to see.
The ability to build cities or "stations" in deep space somewhat.
In my vision, each "POS" would still have a CPU and PWG limit like anything in EVE, but they would have the ability to transfer objects between each-other provided they are connected and "routed". Each POS would be able to be deployed and attach its connected modules at 0 meters minimum from another POS, containers, POCOs, or certain other LCOs. Ships would be able to get very close before being bumped away.
Warping and jumping within say, 10km of a POS would be disabled if the system detects the facility as "closed"; provided it detects you as "inside" and not sitting outside of it. Ships can fire from the inside of the facility but if the system detects a complex of POSs to be "closed" than anything inside can't be targeted from the "outside". This also means that you can bust down someone's front door and attack from within. Anchorable guns would be able to be shot at individually and be disabled like modern POS guns, regardless of being open or closed.
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My vision of my dream POS complex would consist of a few dozen of them. A whole city in space all sealed off that's the size of a station. Say, there are "roads" which are hollow sections throughout my complex; They are designed for ships to fly through. Each intersection of roads-end would have an anchored container to maintain unity and the ability to navigate through the roads. Say, I keep a freighter behind a "password shield" in the hangar section to move goods in and out of the makeshift station. There would be many other bays protected by a "password shield" in the hangar section for my corpies to park in. It would even have a POS designed to pipe goods around the facility, mainly maintaining an even distribution of fuel through all the towers.
Say, I build this giant structure around a POCO, with a freighter bay next to it. There would be a "docking module" that ships enter when ejected from inside the area. I set it to orient the ships pointing out an "undocking hole" that is pointing to a gate or station. Maybe, one of the POSs would automatically pump goods out of the POCO and into the silo next to the freighter, or even in to the freighters themselves. Of course, all openings would be protected with password shields on mine.
Now I'm not an industrialist, so on to defense! I would place some of the "roads" sticking out of the station a bit but still sealed to prevent intrusions. Those exo-roads would have a dreadnaught sitting at the end of them, with a smaller corridor system between them for shuttles/pods to get through fast. Automated defense modules would launch fighters that it yanks out of the pipe system out vents in the structure to attack anything aggressing a POS, any attached modules/POSs, or anything else it is assigned to defend.
Not very much use compared to a normal station, and something of this scale would probably eat tens of billions of ISK per month, but it would just be awesome to have the ability to do something like this. I'm not saying anything like this is likely to be implemented, but one can dream. Will sell wallet space for ISK. |
Brooks Puuntai
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
784
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Posted - 2012.09.23 00:14:00 -
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While admittedly I just skimmed through your post, but it seems you are more focused on the visual aspects then actual functionality. |
Lugia3
Shydow Imperium
28
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Posted - 2012.09.23 00:17:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:While admittedly I just skimmed through your post, but it seems you are more focused on the visual aspects then actual functionality.
Yes, that is true. I'll admit, having this massive superstructure would be a massive waste of time and money buildings, but just having the ability to make connected "cities" of POSs would be great in my opinion.
Those are just my thoughts on it. Yours? Will sell wallet space for ISK. |
Brooks Puuntai
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
785
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Posted - 2012.09.23 00:25:00 -
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While I don't care much for visual aspects, one thing I would like to see is POSs being treated similar to stations, only destructible. Meaning every person has a personal "hold" if a certain module is installed, a personal hanger(with limitations ofc) if the right ship hanger is installed, more flexibility when it comes to personal manufacturing, etc. |
Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
419
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Posted - 2012.09.23 00:25:00 -
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I was under the impression it started with a small personal base structure that could then be expanded massively, with huge generators, powering factories and guns and various services, and you could just keep tacking more and more onto the structure as much as you could afford. |
Lugia3
Shydow Imperium
28
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Posted - 2012.09.23 00:37:00 -
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Saede Riordan wrote:I was under the impression it started with a small personal base structure that could then be expanded massively, with huge generators, powering factories and guns and various services, and you could just keep tacking more and more onto the structure as much as you could afford.
I didn't actually think of that. Having attachable CPU and PWG generators would be great actually as long as the POS can be expanded infinitly, provided they use fuel for each generator. Will sell wallet space for ISK. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2012.09.23 00:41:00 -
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"thoughts on THE upcoming POS overhaul"
Perchance a link to the dev blog. I've been away. |
Red Teufel
Blackened Skies Nulli Secunda
78
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Posted - 2012.09.23 01:21:00 -
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i dunno i hate pos's ... they are not fun to shoot. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2012.09.23 02:20:00 -
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Damn you for putting that link up. I just wasted an hour reading the ENTIRE CSM minutes.
Can I have a cookie? |
YuuKnow
Inner 5phere
419
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Posted - 2012.09.23 04:32:00 -
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As long as they don't mess with WH POSs. Those are fine as they are now.
yk |
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
542
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Posted - 2012.09.23 04:34:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote:As long as they don't mess with WH POSs. Those are fine as they are now.
yk
Yes, because all of the broken functions work in wormholes. Sigh. We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
58
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Posted - 2012.09.23 04:37:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:YuuKnow wrote:As long as they don't mess with WH POSs. Those are fine as they are now.
yk Yes, because all of the broken functions work in wormholes. Sigh. Maybe we should just break WH's off and give them their own server. I dunno. "Serenity" or something? |
Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
295
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Posted - 2012.09.23 07:00:00 -
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First time I've read any of it, and I'd say it is definitely in the planning stage.
Good that it has gotten that far though. Maybe I was actually sleeping in front of my computer and dreamed I posted. Certainly, it's not there now. |
Samroski
Games Inc.
69
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Posted - 2012.09.23 15:57:00 -
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Can't wait for the mobile stations. Love the idea of having a personalized modular station that you can fix a MWD to! |
Selinate
1002
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Posted - 2012.09.23 20:07:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote:As long as they don't mess with WH POSs. Those are fine as they are now.
yk
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Do you use a T3 in a wormhole?
And you'd actually state that POS's in wormholes are fine as they are now?
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I don't think you live in a wormhole.... |
Selinate
1002
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Posted - 2012.09.23 20:11:00 -
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I would just like modular stations that are as small as you want it (personal station) or as large as you want it (one for an alliance in a capitol system) where you can fit what you need to it (labs, ship hangar arrays, construction arrays), and can fit other things to it (repper, jammers, guns, etc.)
I think that's more in the spirit of Eve. |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
825
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Posted - 2012.09.23 20:20:00 -
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Selinate wrote:I would just like modular stations that are as small as you want it (personal station) or as large as you want it (one for an alliance in a capitol system) where you can fit what you need to it (labs, ship hangar arrays, construction arrays), and can fit other things to it (repper, jammers, guns, etc.)
I think that's more in the spirit of Eve.
The concepts from the dead horse thread will do just fine, just let them get very very big if people can be bothered to online and fuel everything. |
Akirra sotken
EVE TRADE ADMINISTRATION Stellar Economy Experts
1
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Posted - 2012.12.12 19:24:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote:As long as they don't mess with WH POSs. Those are fine as they are now.
yk
i agree with Cipher and Selinate. wh pos's are in a very bad state of disarray and are in need of the same ammount of revamping ,if not more, as any other. anyone thinking wh pos's are fine are probably not the ones living in them, defending them, and managing them. get out of that C1 and move to a high traffic C5 and see if your thoughts change. |
Nylith Empyreal
Crowbar Industries. Rebel Alliance of New Eden
190
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Posted - 2012.12.12 19:33:00 -
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Have we all forgotten the 'Beating a dead horse' threadnaught? I'm sure there was a lot explainedif not similar to what people wanted. Surprised I don't see that in assembly anymore. "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
746
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Posted - 2012.12.12 19:55:00 -
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Nylith Empyreal wrote:Have we all forgotten the 'Beating a dead horse' threadnaught? .
I dont know what youre talking about, but if it is what im hoping it is, then I too support the wholesale beating and/or pummeling of deceased equines. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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