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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2011.08.13 21:21:00 -
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Subject says it all, since the russians took over NC space the bot count is horrific. Worse than before.
If the space isent completely dead, its full of tengu bots. I went into a constellation that used to be pretty busy with carebears, you jamp in they gathered a gang and came after you, having fun.
Jamp in there today, station system 2 tengu bots, named the same...next system single tengu bot, every system same named tengu....all insta rejecting convo's.
It really makes me a sad panda :(
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bartos100
DARK ADAMA Terra Axiom
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Posted - 2011.08.13 21:45:00 -
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they used to fly ravens but those got killed too much due to bubbles :D
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Dub Step
Minmatar Death To Everyone But Us
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Posted - 2011.08.13 22:11:00 -
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Report them.
Make a call-out thread compiling their names and corporations.
Get a petition going.
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Demon Azrakel
Gallente Defiant.. Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.08.13 22:14:00 -
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I assume you are using the report bot function?
This is why I love w-space and hate nullsec atm.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2011.08.14 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gibbo3771
It really makes me a sad panda :(
Fortunately its really easy to get alts into corps/alliances that they have deep blue.
Awox the Tenugs, and while you still might be a sad panda you'll at least be a rich panda.
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Mfume Apocal
Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.08.14 06:14:00 -
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Edited by: Mfume Apocal on 14/08/2011 06:17:03 AWOXing Tengus won't populate those regions.
Botting probably isn't the full story, the anom nerf hit pretty hard as well, what used to be richly-populated regions simply couldn't sustain those numbers off ****ty Hubs and Rally Points. I understand CCPs reasoning (even if I don't agree) but large swaths of 0.0 are comically ****ty and the migration back to highsec is a huge nerf to roaming gangs.
I don't know what CCP ultimately has in mind for 0.0 but I really hope it's not "lowsec with no gateguns".
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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2011.08.14 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Demon Azrakel I assume you are using the report bot function?
This is why I love w-space and hate nullsec atm.
yeah ofc but tbh as if CCP even pays attention.
They honestly dont care, they put in functions like report bot and stuff to act as if they care.
As far as they are concerned, the bot pays them money.
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Krista Plumber
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Posted - 2011.08.14 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gibbo3771
Originally by: Demon Azrakel I assume you are using the report bot function?
This is why I love w-space and hate nullsec atm.
yeah ofc but tbh as if CCP even pays attention.
They honestly dont care, they put in functions like report bot and stuff to act as if they care.
As far as they are concerned, the bot pays them money.
That's most likely BS. I reported 6 bots the other day and all of them got banned including another 8 that I didn't report but which were obviously related. So CCP doesn't just ban what you report, seems like they do some minor research as well.
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Smabs
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Posted - 2011.08.14 14:12:00 -
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It's not just the bots so much as the de-population of the space. These days you can jump into m-o and sometimes sit on the gate for an hour without having anything shoot at you. Yeah you can get some good fights in m-o from time to time but it's nothing like the hub it used to be, and the other entryway systems are much worse than that. BWF has just 14 recorded kills in two days.
Tribute barely seems to support the occasional 2-5 man gang let alone any kind of decent roaming pvp.
It's getting a little better now compared to before so I hope that actual people do begin to populate the space again. For the moment it kinda sucks, though.
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Yo Boss
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Posted - 2011.08.14 14:36:00 -
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CCP needs to hire punkbuster or something to fix the botting problem, I have seen too many myself and it is pretty lame.
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s0lar pulse
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Posted - 2011.08.14 15:03:00 -
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I have no issues finding engagements in the north, just be ready to take on some numbers. Gate camps around the north all the time. Take it solo in a battleship/battle-cruiser or engage them with some m8's. Can get some nice frigate pvp there too. Mind you, I'm speaking about systems very close to low sec. I've roamed deep into Russian space with many a ship and found nothing. So, in that way. Ganking NC newbs ratting or just being ******ed, is p much gone.
GO EAST AND FALLOW DA NUBZ!
-proxyyyy
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Acrior
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Posted - 2011.08.14 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Yo Boss CCP needs to hire punkbuster
NO NO GOD NO
anything but that godforsaken piece of crap
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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2011.08.14 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Krista Plumber
Originally by: Gibbo3771
Originally by: Demon Azrakel I assume you are using the report bot function?
This is why I love w-space and hate nullsec atm.
yeah ofc but tbh as if CCP even pays attention.
They honestly dont care, they put in functions like report bot and stuff to act as if they care.
As far as they are concerned, the bot pays them money.
That's most likely BS. I reported 6 bots the other day and all of them got banned including another 8 that I didn't report but which were obviously related. So CCP doesn't just ban what you report, seems like they do some minor research as well.
BS yeah? they will be back in 3 days and botting again until someone like you comes along and reports it, then its 14 days then by the time they get caught again they have accumulated 30bil and bought another 5 characters and binned the last ones, leaving no trace.
If CCP cared, if they knew someone was botting....instantpermaban. Why would you warn someone who is botting to not do it again? WTF?
CCP does not give a ****.
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Tammarr
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Posted - 2011.08.17 00:45:00 -
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hopefully they get better at tracing where the isk flows as well. a bot with -10b wallet will be no good ratter after his first 14 day ban. yes, remove the isk the bot farmed, remove the isk from the chars/accounts that got the isk(thoose middleman accounts should get perma and related accounts as well) and remove it from the poor sod that purchased isk. thats isk 3 times removed. unholy rage on such scale that theres no chance for the frackers to htfu. but then a tengu alt is ~2 months to train to be decent at it? thats what 1-2b worth on the bazaar? with people having fulltime jobs nurturing how many? a hundred accounts all training to become happy tengu bots to take on where their reported comrades fell. do look at ip, noone is going to proxy a hundred different ips to cover his tengufarm. strike them hard ccp. don't let them get away with purchasing and then trading and reselling hardware(supercaps etc) to wash money. inform us that supercaps will be taken away if they were gotten with illegal isk to wash it and then resold to a real player.
i have no love for bots. to ban 10 and get one innocent is an acceptable cost in thoose matters to rein a hold of the constantly escalating situation at hand.
make a training program. ill give you an hour per week of my time to go through bot reports if theres an easy step by step instruction list/tool to utalize, then have my 'yes or no to is bot?' be enforced by a real gm. you got a community ccp, you can use its hatred for bots even more if you provide the tools.
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Feng Schui
Minmatar Cruor Evertum Dominicus
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Posted - 2011.08.17 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Gibbo3771 Subject says it all, since the russians took over NC space the bot count is horrific. Worse than before.
If the space isent completely dead, its full of tengu bots. I went into a constellation that used to be pretty busy with carebears, you jamp in they gathered a gang and came after you, having fun.
Jamp in there today, station system 2 tengu bots, named the same...next system single tengu bot, every system same named tengu....all insta rejecting convo's.
It really makes me a sad panda :(
Name the systems.
Project:Gank
Pilgrim Guide
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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2011.08.17 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tammarr hopefully they get better at tracing where the isk flows as well. a bot with -10b wallet will be no good ratter after his first 14 day ban. yes, remove the isk the bot farmed, remove the isk from the chars/accounts that got the isk(thoose middleman accounts should get perma and related accounts as well) and remove it from the poor sod that purchased isk. thats isk 3 times removed. unholy rage on such scale that theres no chance for the frackers to htfu. but then a tengu alt is ~2 months to train to be decent at it? thats what 1-2b worth on the bazaar? with people having fulltime jobs nurturing how many? a hundred accounts all training to become happy tengu bots to take on where their reported comrades fell. do look at ip, noone is going to proxy a hundred different ips to cover his tengufarm. strike them hard ccp. don't let them get away with purchasing and then trading and reselling hardware(supercaps etc) to wash money. inform us that supercaps will be taken away if they were gotten with illegal isk to wash it and then resold to a real player.
i have no love for bots. to ban 10 and get one innocent is an acceptable cost in thoose matters to rein a hold of the constantly escalating situation at hand.
make a training program. ill give you an hour per week of my time to go through bot reports if theres an easy step by step instruction list/tool to utalize, then have my 'yes or no to is bot?' be enforced by a real gm. you got a community ccp, you can use its hatred for bots even more if you provide the tools.
Wall of text so I cant really individual quote but ehm.....
A bot with -10bil in the wallet doesent reli make a difference. Thats mereley 10 days of ratting to get it positive again, I have known botters who have left this game and their isk income for drone space was 600mil per day.
Plus the bot would never get -10bil cause botters dont every hold their own isk, some even have 100% corp tax so that it goes to corp then shares are split and then corp shut down and ceo/all characters in corp deleted. Then CCP are too scared to ban the "legit" players since its a pure gamble if they were associated with the bots or not.
Other than that everything else in your wall of text look sabout right.
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Cailan Theirin
Outer Ring Marauders
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Posted - 2011.08.18 14:20:00 -
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Maybe I missed it.
You know they're bots, you know where they are? Why not just go there and kill them?
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente NME1
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Posted - 2011.08.18 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Cailan Theirin Maybe I missed it.
You know they're bots, you know where they are? Why not just go there and kill them?
Because they warp to a safe spot and cloak the moment someone enters the system.
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Theodoric Darkwind
Gallente PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.08.19 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Originally by: Cailan Theirin Maybe I missed it.
You know they're bots, you know where they are? Why not just go there and kill them?
Because they warp to a safe spot and cloak the moment someone enters the system.
^^ and I bet they are interdiction nullified too, so the usual trick of a dic/hic logon trap wont work. Plus T3s align and warp out fast enough that even shotgunning belts wont catch you one (shotgun belts usually doesn't even work on ravens).
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.08.19 20:31:00 -
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You could put your afk cloaky alt into the system. Two poor mechanics for the game in a duel! afk cloakers vs bots!
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Tuggboat
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Posted - 2011.08.20 05:49:00 -
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I like it, it adapts to the realities. Maybe we can even sell afk cloakie alts in bazaar. :)
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Nerath Naaris
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Posted - 2011.08.20 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: X Gallentius You could put your afk cloaky alt into the system. Two poor mechanics for the game in a duel! afk cloakers vs bots!
Actually, that should be CCPs¦ job; hell, apparently it does not even have to be a real person, just some name in local...
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.08.20 15:45:00 -
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Does anyone here believe that if CCP wasn't directly benefiting from RMT that it would be as rampant as it is in direct competition for GTC and plex?
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