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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.08.17 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Feligast What tree are you grinding? I'm currently doing the priest grind *barf*
Well I have the IS7 / GW panther / T95 and now am grinding for E50..... love this game
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Fix Lag
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Posted - 2011.08.17 19:59:00 -
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Tank destroyers are OP!
(that's why I'm grinding them)
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.08.17 20:03:00 -
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love my T95 just wish they made it a little faster.... maybe maus speed ect.
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Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.17 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Good to see DHB still sucks as hard as ever.
I remember when Burn Eden were good at something (although I have to confess I forget what it actually was).
Gate camping.
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Zenethalos
Minmatar Doesn't Afraid Of Anything
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Posted - 2011.08.17 20:58:00 -
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Aside from insulting one another for what banner we fly under I have to agree with most things you have touched on. It seems that "small" scale combat is dead. Pirates complain/ anti pie complain, everyone complains that there are no good fights to be had and that the issue boils down to a numbers game. It is pretty much true from my standpoint. It is so hard to take a gang of five or six out now and get a good well rounded fight. It is either pull off an easy gank or die to quadra logi/falcon backed by 30blob ships.
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raker
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Posted - 2011.08.17 21:23:00 -
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Thier are plenty of small gang/fleet fights to be had without massive 30 plus ship blogs as you put it
However it may not be in 0.0 or null sec where the big alliances roam
The fights are in the WH'S
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.08.17 21:26:00 -
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Irony overload
DRF&Co member is whining about blobs
I bet in the next thread you'll whine about how supercaps are overpowered
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.17 21:59:00 -
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Edited by: digitalwanderer on 17/08/2011 22:00:32 To be honest, there is one possibility to reduce the blob warfare problem, wich we have had plenty of examples of massive battles over the years, only to hear the usuall complaints....Massive lag or the node dies altogether.
Add more 0.0 regions in eve(and make them good of course), in such a way that in most cases jumping capitals in them from existing systems isn't just done in a single jump( minimizes hot drops), and given the amount of systems i'm thinking about, it'll also spread out the existing playerbase, so organizing large capital fights(or any type of large fight for that matter) in a single location isn't done so easily anymore( it takes organization by planning it at least a few days ahead, like the old days in eve)... in most cases, the fights would be smaller ones where tactics, fittings and ships used make a diffrence again...
We'd only return to the current situation if the game finally becomes a lot more popular subscriptions wise and there's a lot more people consistently logging in( well beyond the 60k maximum hit several months ago and not seen since), but subcriptions haven't gone up in a long while now....
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Pok Nibin
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.17 22:41:00 -
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Amamake. That is so funny. Go to Amamake. Get smoked. Issue a droll complaint. That is so funny.
Please wait as this sig- nature finishes loading
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Dub Step
Minmatar Death To Everyone But Us
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Posted - 2011.08.17 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Pok Nibin Amamake. That is so funny. Go to Amamake. Get smoked. Issue a droll complaint. That is so funny.
You think warp scramblers and webs are wrong in PVP. GTFO thanks.
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Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2011.08.17 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Pok Nibin Amamake. That is so funny. Go to Amamake. Get smoked. Issue a droll complaint. That is so funny.
As a matter of fact, I was mining in Amamake top belt a week ago for an hour. Local remained pretty static at eigth and I logged of out of boredom...
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Ira Theos
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Posted - 2011.08.17 23:34:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTkZMAT2OV0&feature=related
Truly...
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.17 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat Your account will be suspended at the end of the current subscription period, expiring on 04 July 2012.
This isn't a quit. This is just you huffing and puffing.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Dub Step
Minmatar Death To Everyone But Us
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Posted - 2011.08.18 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: DHB WildCat Your account will be suspended at the end of the current subscription period, expiring on 04 July 2012.
This isn't a quit. This is just you huffing and puffing.
Why don't you recycle your shiptoasting alt because you are a pathetic crybaby about it a second time?
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Eternum Praetorian
PWNED Factor The Seventh Day
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Posted - 2011.08.18 01:59:00 -
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Th eprob I have with WOT is it is basically call of duty online with tanks and not guns...
So it's a FPS and not an MMO
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Bubanni
Cryptonym Sleepers Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.08.18 03:48:00 -
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Wildcat I know what you mean, but I can assure you small gang pvp still exists, i experience it on a daily basis. Your just with the wrong people in the wrong region heh.
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Written Word
Written Word's Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.08.18 05:18:00 -
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Another crybaby today. Something must be in the air.
Bad batch of Dorritos?
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Mors Magne
Astral Adventure
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Posted - 2011.08.18 09:31:00 -
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I don't think there is an alternative to blob warfare, because that is the nature of big battles everywhere - in real life and in all games.
However, there are certain roles that require individualism - scouts and the fleet FC, for example.
When I was in the NC, I was given encouragement to become an FC because not many want to do it.
So if you've had enough of being a soldier, how about training to become an FC with your experience?
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.18 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dub Step Why don't you recycle...?
Ok then. Done. I am recycling this alt... On December 13th, 2016 .
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Oftherocks
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2011.08.18 12:53:00 -
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I hear ya man. This new crop of Devs just don't seem to get "it". Good luck in WoT.
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Alissa Solette
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Posted - 2011.08.18 13:43:00 -
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Edited by: Alissa Solette on 18/08/2011 13:45:34 I generally agree with the OP. The tendency of CCP has been to go ever more towards "bring friends" (because they have to pay subs I guess) and ever less toward "giving small gangs meaningful goals" (even though this was one of the stated design goals of many of the recent features and changes such as Dominion Sov).
I'm not asking for "fair" fights (you can find those in WOW or go play chess) but there has to be some alternative to numbers and blobbing. Numbers should be a viable option but not the only viable option.
I'm not even gonna start about lag and session changes and the fact that simply parking 2'000 players in a system makes it pretty much invulnerable until they decide to leave (or the node crashes).
If huge battles were actually technically viable (without making me want to puke) then I guess "bring friends" would be ok in some way... but as it currently stands it not only makes the game less fun from a game-play point of view but also makes it unplayable from a technical and lag point of view.
CCP knows of these problems since I started playing in 2005 but chooses not to address them. It's easier to make fancy graphics and crappy virtual pants then actually making the game worth playing again.
Oh well.
Also: Battle Hummel > TDs.
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Miss Rabblt
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Posted - 2011.08.18 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat
Originally by: Feligast What tree are you grinding? I'm currently doing the priest grind *barf*
Well I have the IS7 / GW panther / T95 and now am grinding for E50..... love this game
hm. nothing changed, yea? you was grinding in Eve, no you moved to grind in WoT. So what all this thread about?
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.08.18 15:47:00 -
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Yup. Confirmed that bringing your [MMO] friends into a fight is simply dishonorable. And get this: Using an already nerfed recon's ECM bonus to the advantage of your gang-mates is even worse! Sheesh! This game is going down the toilet.
DHB, you are a smart guy and can do better at trolling.
And, oh, the irony... I have heard that using game mechanics to milk ECCM + particular ships' attributes rendering a sniper gang unprobable is a completely honourable and legit tactic.
Yet, the point about CCP's management of the EVE IP trending towards clothing-based MegaTransactions(MTs) and almost zero FiS content is true. CCP has stopped innovating or even following up on good quality existing content when it comes to the science fiction and space ship combat aspects of EVE. One revamped ship model per year? WTF.
Furthermore, avatar clothing is ****. WiS / Incarna / The Door are ****. But a paint job for my favorite ship hulls? That's ****-hot! Better yet, player produced paints through a new industrial branch to enable ship painting at a given station would fit in perfectly with EVE's 'everything is player generated' theme. Bob Ross would be jumping out of his grave to try his hand with Tritanium White and Burnt Omber!
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.18 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: digitalwanderer on 18/08/2011 19:20:49
Originally by: Mors Magne I don't think there is an alternative to blob warfare, because that is the nature of big battles everywhere - in real life and in all games.
However, there are certain roles that require individualism - scouts and the fleet FC, for example.
When I was in the NC, I was given encouragement to become an FC because not many want to do it.
So if you've had enough of being a soldier, how about training to become an FC with your experience?
There are options....Like i said earlier, adding more regions where it forces the existing player base to spread out and in practical terms, it forces the use of smaller gangs and instant hot drops from capital and super capital ships become much harder to pull off on the spot....
I say this from the perspective of an old fart that started playing this game in 2003 when it was first launched, and in those days, one was lucky to see 3000 people logged in, and most of those as is the case today stayed in high sec, so you get an idea that organizing large fleet fights in 0.0 space required planning it several days ahead and even then don't expect more than 50 people in the entire fleet...Blobbing was simply impossible back then.
So add more regions to the game and it automatically reduces the large gang, blobbing, hot dropping and fleet fights that cause either huge lag or kills the node, and sometimes both and makes fleet composition in terms of ships, fittings, tactics relevant again, and by killing oponents this way, the pilot does it with skill, not with a huge numbers advantage, so it's something that can truly be boasted as an acheivement...
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Sem Nan
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Posted - 2011.08.19 01:35:00 -
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So let me get this straight...
You are clueless about why AAA won't fight you, when you bring 15 titans and 67 super carriers with your russian friends? I've been on AAA side during these engagements you're talking about mate, and i'm apalled at you trying to say you're frustated because AAA wouldn't give a fight. If you were frustrated, then what the hell were we?
As long as you keep trying to blob everyone out there.. i only have one thing to say.
I hope you like shooting structures...
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Goddess Ishtar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.19 03:29:00 -
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If I was a DRF pet I'd quit too.
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.08.19 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sem Nan So let me get this straight...
You are clueless about why AAA won't fight you, when you bring 15 titans and 67 super carriers with your russian friends? I've been on AAA side during these engagements you're talking about mate, and i'm apalled at you trying to say you're frustated because AAA wouldn't give a fight. If you were frustrated, then what the hell were we?
As long as you keep trying to blob everyone out there.. i only have one thing to say.
I hope you like shooting structures...
Funny I was actually saying that I am mad because our coward side wont fight without outnumbering the enemy 2billion to 1. Not because you wont fight, but because our side is only interested in a win and bring so many that the enemy cannot fight.
So stop assuming crap and actually read the post instead of just flaming moron!
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Cornullus Rage
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Posted - 2011.08.19 04:09:00 -
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Originally by: Espiritu Santo I agree completely.
They have turned this game into blob warfare and quite frankly its rediculous.
This all BEGAN when they nerf'd speed and nos.....................
/signed
Speed needed to be nerf'd, there is no need for a ship to go 17,000 meters a second. That was just lame and game breaking. But I can see how you would be butt hurt if you spent billions on implants and mods to make you ship go that fast and then the next day realize that it's not worth it. But this is EVE and butt hurt comes along with the game.
Now that that is out of the way... blobs have been a part of the game for as long as I've been playing. You just need to know where to go to get a fight and what ships to have with you. With a Sabre, Kitsune and cruiser of your choice you can do a lot of damage. You just need to know how to fly.
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Imigo Montoya
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.19 05:00:00 -
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When I was new to the game and nullsec we had a guy (Silent UK) regularly visit our space in a Vagabond. The thing I noted was that when the home defense fleet (ie blob) was established and moved to engage the roamers, most roamers would quickly bugger off, but not this guy.
I had a conversation with him because I simply had to respect how he stayed around rather than running like a little girl. Instead of trying to get easy ganks and buggering off when the heat came down, he came for the defense fleet and any easy ganks in the meantime were just gravy. He would hang around for ages and draw interceptors out away from the blob and munch on them, kill what he could, move around, and generally engage with the game content that was provided.
As far as the game goes, CCP really haven't changed anything. More people are subscribing now so naturally you are more likely to run into a blob, but it's the players that form blobs, not CCP. What you choose to do with that is up to you.
Engage with it, or cry about it. Your choice.
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar Fleet of Doom RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.19 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Espiritu Santo I agree completely.
They have turned this game into blob warfare and quite frankly its rediculous.
This all BEGAN when they nerf'd speed and nos.....................
/signed
This, This, & This. As I recall it this was truly the beginning of the end. Oh and, in case you missed it... THIS.
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