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Xenuria
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.18 16:53:00 -
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Normal 32bit windows OS can only use 3.5-4 Gbs of memory.
Most of us enjoy running multiple eve online clinets at once. Not all of us can afford or desire a 64 bit OS.
The solution is something called Kernal Patching. the 32 bit OS can handle just as much ram as the 64 bit OS can. It's just a marketing con that M$ dose to make you spend more.
You run a few programs and set up your persistent booting settings and bam you're 32 bit copy of vista or 7 is using all 42Gbs of RAM you installed are you ASUS motherboard.
Then you can run hundreds of eve clients with little to no lag.
What is CCP's stance/opinion on this? "Sweet Jesus, It's an Anti-AT field!"
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Xercodo
Amarr Xovoni Directorate
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Posted - 2011.08.18 16:55:00 -
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While riding around town yesterday I saw a street named "Xenia" and it took me 2 seconds to figure out why it sounded familiar...
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.18 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria Normal 32bit windows OS can only use 3.5-4 Gbs of memory.
Most of us enjoy running multiple eve online clinets at once. Not all of us can afford or desire a 64 bit OS.
The solution is something called Kernal Patching. the 32 bit OS can handle just as much ram as the 64 bit OS can. It's just a marketing con that M$ dose to make you spend more.
You run a few programs and set up your persistent booting settings and bam you're 32 bit copy of vista or 7 is using all 42Gbs of RAM you installed are you ASUS motherboard.
Then you can run hundreds of eve clients with little to no lag.
What is CCP's stance/opinion on this?
Everyone can afford a 64 bit OS as they are free.
. Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Wile EC
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Posted - 2011.08.18 17:00:00 -
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I can't wait to hear the technical argument on this one
*grabs popcorn*
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Dub Step
Minmatar Death To Everyone But Us
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Posted - 2011.08.18 17:12:00 -
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In before the move.
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.18 17:14:00 -
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Why would CCP have a stance on you breaking the licensing limitation on your OS? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Xenuria
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.18 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Why would CCP have a stance on you breaking the licensing limitation on your OS?
because doing so would allow somebody to run several hundred eve clients at once.
I can only run about 48-50 eve client at once. Imagine what I could accomplish if I could run 400 eve clients. "Sweet Jesus, It's an Anti-AT field!"
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haulolo
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Posted - 2011.08.18 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria
Originally by: Tippia Why would CCP have a stance on you breaking the licensing limitation on your OS?
because doing so would allow somebody to run several hundred eve clients at once.
I can only run about 48-50 eve client at once. Imagine what I could accomplish if I could run 400 eve clients.
Imagine what I could accomplish if I could run one million eve clients !1
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.18 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria because doing so would allow somebody to run several hundred eve clients at once.
àwhich doesn't really answer the question: why should CCP care if you break your OS license? What you're asking here is no different than asking if you're allowed to multi-client, which you are. So they quite explicitly don't care about that, and your dealings with MS is not really their business to care about to begin with. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.08.18 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria Normal 32bit windows OS can only use 3.5-4 Gbs of memory.
Most of us enjoy running multiple eve online clinets at once. Not all of us can afford or desire a 64 bit OS.
you can't afford the 64bit system, but you can afford the extra ram?, and you don't desire you run a 64bit os, but you want the 64bit cpu?
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: dexington you can't afford the 64bit system, but you can afford the extra ram?
Good point. Doesn't RAM qualify as one of those "core components" that retailers use as an excuse to sell OEM licenses of Windows? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Malken
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:02:00 -
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not only that... you can afford 200 eve accounts but not a 64bit OS ?
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Jackson Millenius
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:04:00 -
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'But I don't want to go among mad people,' said Alice. 'Oh, you can't help that,' said the cat. 'We're all mad here.' |
Xenuria
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Malken not only that... you can afford 200 eve accounts but not a 64bit OS ?
Read the OP please.
Going from 32 to 64 bit requires a CLEAN INSTAL. Which is something I will not do... "Sweet Jesus, It's an Anti-AT field!"
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Feligast
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:12:00 -
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Nice to see you last night, Xenuria! :)
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Frau Klaps
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:12:00 -
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Perhaps you could spend the money you save by not updating on some English lessons. ~~~
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria Going from 32 to 64 bit requires a CLEAN INSTAL. Which is something I will not do...
Not true, besides it seems kinda stupid to run a 64bit CPU on a 32bit OS just because you don't want to upgrade the OS...
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Xenuria
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: dexington
Originally by: Xenuria Going from 32 to 64 bit requires a CLEAN INSTAL. Which is something I will not do...
Not true, besides it seems kinda stupid to run a 64bit CPU on a 32bit OS just because you don't want to upgrade the OS...
1/10
Nowhere did I say anything about a CPU or a 64 bit cpu vs a 32 bit one.
Also that is TRUE. Unless you can provide evidence to the contrary. If there was a clean safe way to upgrade my Vista 32 bit to a 64 bit without a clean install I would do it. "Sweet Jesus, It's an Anti-AT field!"
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Zylaphone
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria Something something something Vista something something.
LOL
Anyways, to answer your question, no CCP doesn't care.
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria 1/10
Nowhere did I say anything about a CPU or a 64 bit cpu vs a 32 bit one.
You said that the CPU was able to do 64bit memory allocation, use more then 4GB of ram, if not i don't see what you would get from trying to patch the kernel.
Originally by: Xenuria Also that is TRUE. Unless you can provide evidence to the contrary. If there was a clean safe way to upgrade my Vista 32 bit to a 64 bit without a clean install I would do it.
You can update 32bit XP to 64bit Win7 without any problems, just follow the guided installer...
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Jackson Millenius
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Zylaphone
Originally by: Xenuria Something something something Vista something something.
LOL
Anyways, to answer your question, no CCP doesn't care.
Lol...
'But I don't want to go among mad people,' said Alice. 'Oh, you can't help that,' said the cat. 'We're all mad here.' |
Xenuria
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: dexington
Originally by: Xenuria 1/10
Nowhere did I say anything about a CPU or a 64 bit cpu vs a 32 bit one.
You said that the CPU was able to do 64bit memory allocation, use more then 4GB of ram, if not i don't see what you would get from trying to patch the kernel.
Originally by: Xenuria Also that is TRUE. Unless you can provide evidence to the contrary. If there was a clean safe way to upgrade my Vista 32 bit to a 64 bit without a clean install I would do it.
You can update 32bit XP to 64bit Win7 without any problems, just follow the guided installer...
I do not have windows XP. I have windows Vista Ultimate 32Bit
Which means as I said before It is not possible to upgrade to a 64Bit Version without a Clean Instal.
Back when I was upgrading from XP to Vista Ultimate I encountered the option to Upgrade to 64 bit. I chose most unwisely. "Sweet Jesus, It's an Anti-AT field!"
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Frau Klaps
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:39:00 -
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Quote: Installing a 64-bit version of Windows Vista on computer that is running a 32-bit version of Windows Vista
If you have purchased an Upgrade license together with a Windows Vista DVD, you must use one of the following methods. Method 1 Purchase a full version of the 64-bit version of Windows Vista. Method 2 Remove the 32-bit version of Windows Vista. Install Windows XP. Install the 64-bit version of Windows Vista by using an installation method that is listed earlier in this article. If you have purchased a full license together with a Windows Vista DVD, follow these steps: Back up all the data and settings by using Windows Easy Transfer. Windows Easy Transfer is available on the Windows Vista DVD. However, you must use the version that is on the Windows Vista DVD for your currently installed 32-bit version of Windows Vista. Insert the 64-bit version of Windows Vista into the system DVD drive, and then restart the computer. Start Windows Vista Setup from the DVD when you are prompted. Note You must start Windows Vista Setup by starting the computer from the Windows Vista 64-bit DVD. The installation package will not run on a 32-bit operating system. When you are prompted during Windows Vista Setup, remember to select Custom as your installation choice. When the installation is complete, you can restore the data from its backup location.
Look how dumb you are. Now please shut up. ~~~
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Dhaul
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:42:00 -
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32 bit operating systems still exist?
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Xenuria
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.18 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Xenuria on 18/08/2011 19:08:27
Originally by: Frau Klaps
Quote: Installing a 64-bit version of Windows Vista on computer that is running a 32-bit version of Windows Vista
If you have purchased an Upgrade license together with a Windows Vista DVD, you must use one of the following methods. Method 1 Purchase a full version of the 64-bit version of Windows Vista. Method 2 Remove the 32-bit version of Windows Vista. Install Windows XP. Install the 64-bit version of Windows Vista by using an installation method that is listed earlier in this article. If you have purchased a full license together with a Windows Vista DVD, follow these steps: Back up all the data and settings by using Windows Easy Transfer. Windows Easy Transfer is available on the Windows Vista DVD. However, you must use the version that is on the Windows Vista DVD for your currently installed 32-bit version of Windows Vista. Insert the 64-bit version of Windows Vista into the system DVD drive, and then restart the computer. Start Windows Vista Setup from the DVD when you are prompted. Note You must start Windows Vista Setup by starting the computer from the Windows Vista 64-bit DVD. The installation package will not run on a 32-bit operating system. When you are prompted during Windows Vista Setup, remember to select Custom as your installation choice. When the installation is complete, you can restore the data from its backup location.
Look how dumb you are. Now please shut up.
I think you should Re-Read that wall of text. Carfully and slowly.
The problem with the Window Easy File Trasfer/Backup (insert name here) thing is that it dose not take into account Complex registry keys and configurations.
So sure I will have all my images, music, videos and documents. But if it will not be able to transfer anything that has it's own registry keys or appdata.
All that needs to be reinstalled. Which like I said is NOT an option.
Seriously spank I have come to expect more from you. You normally do not make simple mistakes like this.
Edit: if the backup utility was seamless and fully functional they would have built it into the OS upgrade process and would then have no reason to say that a 32-64 bit upgrade needs CLEAN install.
"Sweet Jesus, It's an Anti-AT field!"
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Frau Klaps
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.18 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria Seriously spank I have come to expect more from you. You normally do not make simple mistakes like this.
Implying I should make effort in a Xenuria thread. Also this is not Spank. ~~~
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chicoree
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Posted - 2011.08.18 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dhaul 32 bit operating systems still exist?
We still live in a 32 bit world!
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Xenuria
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.18 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Frau Klaps
Originally by: Xenuria Seriously spank I have come to expect more from you. You normally do not make simple mistakes like this.
Implying I should make effort in a Xenuria thread. Also this is not Spank.
Whoever you want to pretend to be right now, you got egg on you're face. The goal of posting in a Xenuria thread is to avoid posting something that makes you look dumber then the OP/Xenuria.
By Copypastaing something you did not even bother to read you have ended up looking stupid. "Sweet Jesus, It's an Anti-AT field!"
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Judge Ment
BOOM BOOM POW
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Posted - 2011.08.18 19:12:00 -
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Why does CCP allow people like Frau Klaps to insult others? This gent/female Trolls every thread knocking everyone down like he major in English or something. I find him very rude and uncalled for! He something to say about everyone, are you CCP ALT?? Question everyone? who has something to say about the game
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P
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Posted - 2011.08.18 19:38:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion and cleaned of trolling posts.
Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us |
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