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Muck Raker
Gallente Gutter Press
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Posted - 2011.08.21 16:11:00 -
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Amazing news reaches Gutter Press today, about some Minmatar Academics who are outraged at the curriculum that most Federation schools follow, particularly the History curriculum.
"Gallente revisionists are making our people look like savages!" said one Seibestor Tribe educator, alleging that Federal History textbooks paint the Minmatar in a less than satisfactory light.
"These allegations are bunk" responds an Intaki teacher. "They want to ignore the Federal contribution to Minmatar society. They are the revisionists!"
Other social commentators have also expressed their opinions: "Frankly, this is a storm in a Quafe-cup", said one socialite. "They're like, arguing about like, the meaning of 'rebellion' compared to you know 'uprising' and stuff, it's like totally silly" said a teen boy band member.
The arguments stem from the controversy surrounding the events commonly described in Federation textbooks as "The Minmatar Rebellion", where it mentions the vast amount of Federal funding, training and equipment support given to the Minmatar during the last few years of throwing out the Empire from traditionally Minmatar worlds.
A Vherokior educator had this to say: "Rebellion" is an entirely different word from "uprising", Rebellion suggests some form of legitimacy for the thing that was thrown out, whereas Uprising does not. Calling it the Minmatar Rebellion says the Amarr had some right to be there. Which is clearly not the case! Furthermore, we had ships, we had a fleet, we were not some band of half-dressed savages that needed Federal guns and ships to save us. These Federal textbooks are appalling and only serve to isolate the Minmatar living in the Federation from the Republic.
A counterstatement from a Gallente official at the Federal Administration said: "The Minmatar successfully removed Amarrian influence from their worlds, with substantial Gallente assistance. Those are the facts. This argument and these lawsuits are un-Federal activities, and people should think twice before expressing such divisive and unconstructive opinions."
The debates and arguments continue in schools and courts across the Federation, so Gutter Press asked some people on the street what the Word is.
"It's silly, innit, you know like, cos the Caldari are like, menacing, innit, and we just wanna like, do stuff, and they're all like, No." said one Quafe fan at a sporting event organised by the company.
"Politics should totally be like, left out of schools. Except politics classes, obviously." said one enthusiastic campaigner for more rights for cyber-enhanced individuals.
Whatever happens next, Gutter Press will keep an eye on it!
Rumours! Wars! Rumours of wars! Wars of rumours! |
Renier Cesaille
Gallente Freespace Cooperative
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Posted - 2011.08.21 18:14:00 -
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As a student who graduated from the University of Caille, nothing but the highest respect was granted to the Minmatar. They were and are a people who were oppressed by the Amarr and had their livelihoods and resources exploited for the betterment of Amarr society without concern for their own well-being.
I would hardly call the Minmatar of any persuasion a "savage" or "primitive", they choose to follow a lifestyle that is probably closer to early human experience when we did indeed live planetbound and in small clans. This is not a bad thing, as the Minmatar I have met and have become friends with value friendship, family, and loyalty above all else. If someone is ignorant enough to interpret that as "savage", then I pity them, because the Minmatar are no less civilized than anyone of the other great, legitimate nations in New Eden. They sought their independence and earned it, through grit and muscle, and of course, with help, but facing an incredible power such as the Amarr, there were few other options. Still, they are not indebted and we in the Gallente Federation should regard them more as friends and allies than adopt a paternalistic view, if anyone is unfortunate enough to hold those opinions.
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.22 00:47:00 -
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Citation Required. ---
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Jason Galente
Gallente mishima ryu
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Posted - 2011.08.22 01:16:00 -
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I also graduated from UC, and I never heard even a single demeaning or otherwise inaccurate word spoken of the Minmatar and their descendants. However, given that this is coming from Gutter Press, one of the most reputable *cough* media groups in the cluster, I'm not surprised.
The above is the author's personal opinion and may not represent the opinion of his CEO. |
Alain Octirant
Gallente Federal Nationalist Party
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Posted - 2011.08.22 01:34:00 -
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Minmatar 'Academics'? There's the lie, right there.
Mr Alain Octirant Chairman, National Party of the Federated Union of Gallente Prime Office of the Party Headquarters, Villore VII-6 Senate Bureau Station |
Nakal Ashera
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Posted - 2011.08.22 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Alain Octirant Minmatar 'Academics'? There's the lie, right there.
Mister Octirant, I don't think I need to remind you that much of the present Matari system of education is based on our own... Well, the Federations, rather. If you believe that the society in incapable of producing "Academics", then it's clear to where one should point the finger.
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Jason Galente
Gallente mishima ryu
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Posted - 2011.08.22 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: Alain Octirant Minmatar 'Academics'? There's the lie, right there.
With such statements it's no wonder the Federal Nationalist Party has such a sterling reputation
The above is the author's personal opinion and may not represent the opinion of his CEO. |
Alain Octirant
Gallente Federal Nationalist Party
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Posted - 2011.08.22 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nakal Ashera Mister Octirant, I don't think I need to remind you that much of the present Matari system of education is based on our own... Well, the Federations, rather. If you believe that the society in incapable of producing "Academics", then it's clear to where one should point the finger.
Many things are based on other things.
My niece recently produced a finger painting that was 'based' on the work on Intaki artist Suri Naatha.
While I may have told my niece otherwise, there was a gulf in quality between her finger painting and Naatha's work.
Mr Alain Octirant Chairman, National Party of the Federated Union of Gallente Prime Office of the Party Headquarters, Villore VII-6 Senate Bureau Station |
Commander Dirtbag
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.22 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Muck Raker Minmatar Academics
You're being ironic, right? Yeah, I'm a Dirtbag. |
Jason Galente
Gallente mishima ryu
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Posted - 2011.08.22 03:50:00 -
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Originally by: Alain Octirant
While I may have told my niece otherwise
You did, did you? Funny. I figured you feasted on the tears of children.
My mistake
The above is the author's personal opinion and may not represent the opinion of his CEO. |
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Minmatar Hellstar Towing and Recovery
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Posted - 2011.08.22 03:58:00 -
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Originally by: Alain Octirant Minmatar 'Academics'? There's the lie, right there.
Hey, I got a joke for ya:
Q: What does a Fed Nationalist see when s/he looks into a mirror? A: God.
Pull your head out of your arse, you smug, sanctimonious, condescending close-minded bigot.
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Alain Octirant
Gallente Federal Nationalist Party
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Posted - 2011.08.22 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tarryn Nightstorm
Hey, I got a joke for ya:
Q: What does a Fed Nationalist see when s/he looks into a mirror? A: God.
Why would I see an Amarrian control-fantasy when I look in the mirror?
Your joke needs work.
Mr Alain Octirant Chairman, National Party of the Federated Union of Gallente Prime Office of the Party Headquarters, Villore VII-6 Senate Bureau Station |
Jason Galente
Gallente mishima ryu
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Posted - 2011.08.22 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: Alain Octirant
Originally by: Tarryn Nightstorm
Hey, I got a joke for ya:
Q: What does a Fed Nationalist see when s/he looks into a mirror? A: God.
Why would I see an Amarrian control-fantasy when I look in the mirror?
Your joke needs work.
Your political party needs work.
Who is in deeper water there, Mr. Octirant?
The above is the author's personal opinion and may not represent the opinion of his CEO. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Minmatar Hellstar Towing and Recovery
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Posted - 2011.08.22 05:29:00 -
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Edited by: Tarryn Nightstorm on 22/08/2011 05:31:55
Originally by: Alain Octirant
Why would I see an Amarrian control-fantasy when I look in the mirror?
Your joke needs work.
Oh, for......!
Not as much work as your sense of irony:
(Tarryn's tone changes such that he sounds like he's explaing something very simple to a small, quite-annoying, and very, very, slow child)
See, your bigoted closed-mindedness w/r/t Minmtar is no different from that of the Amarr, despite your two nations being nominally hostile to each other, and professing to espouse philosophies that are in many ways each others' diametric opposites.
In other words, you sound just like an Invisible-Sky-Wizard-fellating Amarr, despite nominally standing against everything the Amarr supposedly represent.
That's called ironic humour, the best kind because the one displaying it, who is thus the target thereof, clearly doesn't even know it. Get it now?
(I really didn't think that joke was too subtle, even for you ...Oh well, that's what I get for overestimating people's intelligence, I guess.)
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Alain Octirant
Gallente Federal Nationalist Party
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Posted - 2011.08.22 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tarryn Nightstorm
Oh, for......!
Not as much work as your sense of irony:
(Tarryn's tone changes such that he sounds like he's explaing something very simple to a small, quite-annoying, and very, very, slow child)
See, your bigoted closed-mindedness w/r/t Minmtar is no different from that of the Amarr, despite your two nations being nominally hostile to each other, and professing to espouse philosophies that are in many ways each others' diametric opposites.
In other words, you sound just like an Invisible-Sky-Wizard-fellating Amarr, despite nominally standing against everything the Amarr supposedly represent.
That's called ironic humour, the best kind because the one displaying it, who is thus the target thereof, clearly doesn't even know it. Get it now?
(I really didn't think that joke was too subtle, even for you ...Oh well, that's what I get for overestimating people's intelligence, I guess.)
You must be one of these Minmatar 'Academics' we hear tell about. You are a credit to your people.
Mr Alain Octirant Chairman, National Party of the Federated Union of Gallente Prime Office of the Party Headquarters, Villore VII-6 Senate Bureau Station |
Nakal Ashera
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Posted - 2011.08.22 09:07:00 -
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Mister Octirant, I'm getting the impression you have some level of contempt for the Republic, despite them being the Federations closest - And only, probably - major ally. Might I ask why this is?
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Alain Octirant
Gallente Federal Nationalist Party
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Posted - 2011.08.22 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nakal Ashera Mister Octirant, I'm getting the impression you have some level of contempt for the Republic, despite them being the Federations closest - And only, probably - major ally. Might I ask why this is?
Madame, nothing could be further from the truth.
Mr Alain Octirant Chairman, National Party of the Federated Union of Gallente Prime Office of the Party Headquarters, Villore VII-6 Senate Bureau Station |
Nakal Ashera
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Posted - 2011.08.22 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Alain Octirant
Originally by: Nakal Ashera Mister Octirant, I'm getting the impression you have some level of contempt for the Republic, despite them being the Federations closest - And only, probably - major ally. Might I ask why this is?
Madame, nothing could be further from the truth.
I see. Very well, then. In that case, why do you collectively dismiss their entire culture as being utterly incapable of pursuing any kind of meaningful form of higher learning, such as you appear to be doing?
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Malcolm Khross
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.08.22 13:34:00 -
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There's a word for this Octirant guy, it's called "megalomaniac."
Since it seems like you ain't got enough perspective to see past your own nose, I'll keep things simple. Remember what happened to the last "great Empire" that challenged the resourcefulness, cunning, ingenuity, individuality, spirituality, fervor and passion of the Matari people? I'll give you a hint, they found out that there's more to them than meets the proverbial eye.
I'm only hoping, for the sake of the good men, women and children left in the Federation, that your voice never becomes one backed by more than your own ego.
Pah, I need a drink. ~~~~~~~~~~~
Captain Mal Khross |
Xavier Fate
Gallente Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2011.08.22 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Muck Raker Amazing news reaches Gutter Press today, about some Minmatar Academics who are outraged at the curriculum that most Federation schools follow, particularly the History curriculum.
"Gallente revisionists are making our people look like savages!" said one Seibestor Tribe educator, alleging that Federal History textbooks paint the Minmatar in a less than satisfactory light.
"These allegations are bunk" responds an Intaki teacher. "They want to ignore the Federal contribution to Minmatar society. They are the revisionists!"
Other social commentators have also expressed their opinions: "Frankly, this is a storm in a Quafe-cup", said one socialite. "They're like, arguing about like, the meaning of 'rebellion' compared to you know 'uprising' and stuff, it's like totally silly" said a teen boy band member.
The arguments stem from the controversy surrounding the events commonly described in Federation textbooks as "The Minmatar Rebellion", where it mentions the vast amount of Federal funding, training and equipment support given to the Minmatar during the last few years of throwing out the Empire from traditionally Minmatar worlds.
A Vherokior educator had this to say: "Rebellion" is an entirely different word from "uprising", Rebellion suggests some form of legitimacy for the thing that was thrown out, whereas Uprising does not. Calling it the Minmatar Rebellion says the Amarr had some right to be there. Which is clearly not the case! Furthermore, we had ships, we had a fleet, we were not some band of half-dressed savages that needed Federal guns and ships to save us. These Federal textbooks are appalling and only serve to isolate the Minmatar living in the Federation from the Republic.
A counterstatement from a Gallente official at the Federal Administration said: "The Minmatar successfully removed Amarrian influence from their worlds, with substantial Gallente assistance. Those are the facts. This argument and these lawsuits are un-Federal activities, and people should think twice before expressing such divisive and unconstructive opinions."
The debates and arguments continue in schools and courts across the Federation, so Gutter Press asked some people on the street what the Word is.
"It's silly, innit, you know like, cos the Caldari are like, menacing, innit, and we just wanna like, do stuff, and they're all like, No." said one Quafe fan at a sporting event organised by the company.
"Politics should totally be like, left out of schools. Except politics classes, obviously." said one enthusiastic campaigner for more rights for cyber-enhanced individuals.
Whatever happens next, Gutter Press will keep an eye on it!
Patently false from the first word to the last. Luckily for us all, slander is in fact a crime in the Federation. I am not a lawyer, but I believe that this qualifies. ----------------
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Diana Kim
Caldari Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.08.22 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Galente
Originally by: Alain Octirant
Originally by: Tarryn Nightstorm
Hey, I got a joke for ya:
Q: What does a Fed Nationalist see when s/he looks into a mirror? A: God.
Why would I see an Amarrian control-fantasy when I look in the mirror?
Your joke needs work.
Your political party needs work.
Who is in deeper water there, Mr. Octirant?
Ok, lets rework the joke ;)
Q: What does a Fed Nationalist see when s/he looks into a mirror? A: Walking dead.
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Lucius Blackstone
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.22 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Malcolm Khross There's a word for this Octirant guy, it's called "megalomaniac."
Since it seems like you ain't got enough perspective to see past your own nose, I'll keep things simple. Remember what happened to the last "great Empire" that challenged the resourcefulness, cunning, ingenuity, individuality, spirituality, fervor and passion of the Matari people? I'll give you a hint, they found out that there's more to them than meets the proverbial eye.
I'm only hoping, for the sake of the good men, women and children left in the Federation, that your voice never becomes one backed by more than your own ego.
Pah, I need a drink.
I must agree with my State compatriot. I find the fact that you are living and breathing a direct insult to people far and wide. You Federation politicians are the worst back-sliding cowards I have ever seen. Pray I never see you flying alone in the space-lanes Ocitrant, for I might break with my full support for the State and do the Federation a small favor.
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Anabella Rella
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.08.22 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Alain Octirant Minmatar 'Academics'? There's the lie, right there.
As both a citizen of the Federation and a Matari I find this comment offensive, pilot. It's beneath the head of a Gallentean political party and it's racist. Would you care to clarify or perhaps it would be better to simply apologize for this insensitive remark and withdraw from any further comments on this topic?
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Malcolm Khross
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.08.22 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Anabella Rella
Originally by: Alain Octirant Minmatar 'Academics'? There's the lie, right there.
As both a citizen of the Federation and a Matari I find this comment offensive, pilot. It's beneath the head of a Gallentean political party and it's racist. Would you care to clarify or perhaps it would be better to simply apologize for this insensitive remark and withdraw from any further comments on this topic?
Don't expect too much, lady. This is a repeat of what happened with the Caldari, see? Didn't think we separated just because we drank a different brand of tea, did you?
Arrogant Federation megalomaniacs like Octirant decided they could do whatever the cluster they wanted in the name of "freedom and liberty" while trouncing on those they considered less than themselves. Interfering in everybody's business in order to ensure it's done their way. Cultural assimilation, if you will.
So long as loud-mouthed, self-serving, self-righteous morons like Octirant have a say in Federal politics, the Federation isn't going to be the land of freedom and promise that it pretends to be.
Know that ain't what you wanted to hear, but it's the truth sure as I can tell it to you.
~~~~~~~~~~~
Captain Mal Khross |
Jason Galente
Gallente mishima ryu
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Posted - 2011.08.22 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Malcolm Khross
Originally by: Anabella Rella
Originally by: Alain Octirant Minmatar 'Academics'? There's the lie, right there.
As both a citizen of the Federation and a Matari I find this comment offensive, pilot. It's beneath the head of a Gallentean political party and it's racist. Would you care to clarify or perhaps it would be better to simply apologize for this insensitive remark and withdraw from any further comments on this topic?
So long as loud-mouthed, self-serving, self-righteous morons like Octirant have a say in Federal politics
It's a good thing he doesn't have a say in Federal politics, outside of his helter-skelter excuse for a political party. Not that this is worth noting, I personally find Gallente politics distasteful and boring.
The above is the author's personal opinion and may not represent the opinion of his CEO. |
Conventia Underking
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.22 20:13:00 -
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Looks on in amusement.
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Aurelie Severasse
Gallente The Light on the Hill
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Posted - 2011.08.22 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Malcolm Khross
So long as loud-mouthed, self-serving, self-righteous morons like Octirant have a say in Federal politics, the Federation isn't going to be the land of freedom and promise that it pretends to be.
Know that ain't what you wanted to hear, but it's the truth sure as I can tell it to you.
I think it's unnecessarily hasty to tar all Federal Politicians with the same brush just because you take exception to Octirant and his lunar politics.
And the Federation is precisely the land of Freedom and Promise because people like Octirant, whose views I would spent my lifetime denouncing at the top of my voice, can still have their say.
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Malcolm Khross
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.08.23 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Aurelie Severasse
Originally by: Malcolm Khross
So long as loud-mouthed, self-serving, self-righteous morons like Octirant have a say in Federal politics, the Federation isn't going to be the land of freedom and promise that it pretends to be.
Know that ain't what you wanted to hear, but it's the truth sure as I can tell it to you.
I think it's unnecessarily hasty to tar all Federal Politicians with the same brush just because you take exception to Octirant and his lunar politics.
And the Federation is precisely the land of Freedom and Promise because people like Octirant, whose views I would spent my lifetime denouncing at the top of my voice, can still have their say.
Lass, I didn't "tar" all of the politicians for one man's sake. You'll notice I quite clearly only "tarred" one and anyone similar to him.
And the Federation ain't the land of freedom and promise it claims to be. It's the land of freedom, maybe. But so long as voices like his are heard, it ain't promising nothing but more frustration, opposition and anger.
'Sides, if I want freedom, I don't need your government telling me I can have it. Simple as that. ~~~~~~~~~~~
Captain Mal Khross |
Aurelie Severasse
Gallente The Light on the Hill
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Posted - 2011.08.23 04:23:00 -
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Edited by: Aurelie Severasse on 23/08/2011 04:24:31
Originally by: Malcolm Khross
Lass, I didn't "tar" all of the politicians for one man's sake. You'll notice I quite clearly only "tarred" one and anyone similar to him.
I was actually making a general comment to all responders on this thread who are attacking Octirant like he's representative of the entire Federation, which is clearly absurd and fuels the old man's delusions of validity.
It would be fairly similar to say that all Caldari are fascists just because Tibus Heth is, for example, which is obviously silly.
Also, you can address me as Mademoiselle Severasse.
Originally by: Malcolm Khross And the Federation ain't the land of freedom and promise it claims to be. It's the land of freedom, maybe. But so long as voices like his are heard, it ain't promising nothing but more frustration, opposition and anger.
This is also absurd. His voice rings out. Some listen. The same goes for any other voice, anywhere. That's what the Federation is. A caucus of ideas and the most powerful and persuasive win out.
Originally by: Malcolm Khross 'Sides, if I want freedom, I don't need your government telling me I can have it. Simple as that.
No-one told you anything. This is a thread about Education in the Republic and you chimed in to criticise the Federation. I'm merely pointing out that your critique is unfounded and reactionary.
I'll tell you how simple it is: Octirant is entitled to his say. He's wrong, and I'll tell him that, but he's entitled to express his opinion. Don't try and say that his opinion is representative of things that it is not; that is logically flawed.
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Alain Octirant
Gallente Federal Nationalist Party
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Posted - 2011.08.23 04:59:00 -
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Don't pander to them, silly girl. Those people would see your 'Light on the Hill' snuffed out forever.
Mr Alain Octirant Chairman, National Party of the Federated Union of Gallente Prime Office of the Party Headquarters, Villore VII-6 Senate Bureau Station |
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Ava Starfire
Minmatar Teraa Matar
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Posted - 2011.08.23 11:37:00 -
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Oh! A rude, arrogant Gallentean??
Impossi... oh, wait.
Yep. We all see exactly what you're trying to prove. Yep. Carry on.
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Paul J Keating
Gallente The Light on the Hill
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Posted - 2011.08.23 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ava Starfire Oh! A rude, arrogant Gallentean??
Impossi... oh, wait.
Yep. We all see exactly what you're trying to prove. Yep. Carry on.
Fighting ethnic stereotyping with more ethnic stereotyping. Great.
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.08.23 13:58:00 -
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I applaud this vigorous discourse, it is the hallmark of vibrant academic freedom and symbol of the healthy democracy in both the Federation and Republic.
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Caellach Marellus
Gallente Nephtys Ventures inc
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Posted - 2011.08.23 15:32:00 -
[34]
The FNP are the only great thing about having Roden in charge.
It means that they aren't.
This doesn't excuse more gossip journalism from Muck Raker mind, using the opinion of an idiotic minority to get another sensationalism story. --------------------------------------
All commentary unless explicitly stated remains the personal views of Caellach Marellus and do not necessarily represent that of his Corporation or Alliance |
Malcolm Khross
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.08.23 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Malcolm Khross on 23/08/2011 20:30:55
Originally by: Aurelie Severasse Edited by: Aurelie Severasse on 23/08/2011 04:24:31
Originally by: Malcolm Khross
Lass, I didn't "tar" all of the politicians for one man's sake. You'll notice I quite clearly only "tarred" one and anyone similar to him.
I was actually making a general comment to all responders on this thread who are attacking Octirant like he's representative of the entire Federation, which is clearly absurd and fuels the old man's delusions of validity.
It would be fairly similar to say that all Caldari are fascists just because Tibus Heth is, for example, which is obviously silly.
Also, you can address me as Mademoiselle Severasse.
Originally by: Malcolm Khross And the Federation ain't the land of freedom and promise it claims to be. It's the land of freedom, maybe. But so long as voices like his are heard, it ain't promising nothing but more frustration, opposition and anger.
This is also absurd. His voice rings out. Some listen. The same goes for any other voice, anywhere. That's what the Federation is. A caucus of ideas and the most powerful and persuasive win out.
Originally by: Malcolm Khross 'Sides, if I want freedom, I don't need your government telling me I can have it. Simple as that.
No-one told you anything. This is a thread about Education in the Republic and you chimed in to criticise the Federation. I'm merely pointing out that your critique is unfounded and reactionary.
I'll tell you how simple it is: Octirant is entitled to his say. He's wrong, and I'll tell him that, but he's entitled to express his opinion. Don't try and say that his opinion is representative of things that it is not; that is logically flawed.
Huh, suit your fancy then.
Only clarification I'll make is I ain't interested in criticizing the Federation, just certain individuals in it. I can see how you got that impression though, not much for political speech myself.
Keep your own voice loud and strong and perhaps there'll be hope for the rest. I'm thinking you might could use a drink and conversation, mada...whateverthatwordis Severasse. I'd be happy to oblige if you're willing. ~~~~~~~~~~~
Captain Mal Khross |
Celeste Fauconnier
Gallente Hara Kobaro Dourdan
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Posted - 2011.08.24 19:23:00 -
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I've always admired Gutter Press' source selection criteria. The underlying algorithms must be stunning: I'd wager not even blind chance would yield as consistent a combination of 'willing to talk' and 'stupid'.
Speaking as a Center for Advanced Studies graduate, I can certainly attest to the respect given Matari engineering by my instructors and peers. As a former Federation taxpayer, I confess being baffled by the cheekiness of any Minmatar academic who'd claim that their ... shall we call it a 'revolution', to avoid the debate between 'uprising' and 'rebellion'? Yes, I think any of them who'd state that the whole affair was self-funded could run the very real risk of being selected as a Gutter Press source. |
Laerise
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.26 13:28:00 -
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Once again the Gutter Press demonstrates is pro galente/minmatar bias by leaving the erraneous statement that the so called 'republic' was not God given to the empire uncontested! _______ "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens." - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 71:21 |
Malcolm Khross
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.08.26 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Laerise Once again the Gutter Press demonstrates is pro galente/minmatar bias by leaving the erraneous statement that the so called 'republic' was not God given to the empire uncontested!
Lassie, you got two eyes, right? The post here ain't nothing to do with anything you're taking issue with, savvy? Reporting on Matari being upset by biased Federal education, be that factual reporting or not, ain't got nothing to do with your god and whether or not he gave it to the Empire.
Facts be plain: The Republic exists whether or not the Empire wants it to. This post weren't about you or your god, sorry if that don't sit well with your attention seeking, see? And the post hardly promotes bias for Gallente/Matari as it seems to be more about tension between the two.
Ancestors choke! I'd normally be offerin' you a drink to help you unwind, but I'm thinking it might stress me out in the process, not too shiny with that. ~~~~~~~~~~~
Captain Mal Khross |
Jason Galente
Gallente mishima ryu
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Posted - 2011.08.26 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Malcolm Khross
Originally by: Laerise Once again the Gutter Press demonstrates is pro galente/minmatar bias by leaving the erraneous statement that the so called 'republic' was not God given to the empire uncontested!
Lassie, you got two eyes, right? The post here ain't nothing to do with anything you're taking issue with, savvy? Reporting on Matari being upset by biased Federal education, be that factual reporting or not, ain't got nothing to do with your god and whether or not he gave it to the Empire.
Facts be plain: The Republic exists whether or not the Empire wants it to. This post weren't about you or your god, sorry if that don't sit well with your attention seeking, see? And the post hardly promotes bias for Gallente/Matari as it seems to be more about tension between the two.
Ancestors choke! I'd normally be offerin' you a drink to help you unwind, but I'm thinking it might stress me out in the process, not too shiny with that.
Curious how I find myself agreeing with you on almost everything, Mr. Khross.
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Lyn Farel
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.08.26 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Galente
Originally by: Malcolm Khross
Originally by: Laerise Once again the Gutter Press demonstrates is pro galente/minmatar bias by leaving the erraneous statement that the so called 'republic' was not God given to the empire uncontested!
Lassie, you got two eyes, right? The post here ain't nothing to do with anything you're taking issue with, savvy? Reporting on Matari being upset by biased Federal education, be that factual reporting or not, ain't got nothing to do with your god and whether or not he gave it to the Empire.
Facts be plain: The Republic exists whether or not the Empire wants it to. This post weren't about you or your god, sorry if that don't sit well with your attention seeking, see? And the post hardly promotes bias for Gallente/Matari as it seems to be more about tension between the two.
Ancestors choke! I'd normally be offerin' you a drink to help you unwind, but I'm thinking it might stress me out in the process, not too shiny with that.
Curious how I find myself agreeing with you on almost everything, Mr. Khross.
Pilot Fierach usually has that effect. |
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Malcolm Khross
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.08.27 01:24:00 -
[41]
Who? ~~~~~~~~~~~
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Minmatar Hellstar Towing and Recovery
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Posted - 2011.08.29 02:48:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Anabella Rella [...]It's beneath the head of a Gallentean political party [...]
(smiles cynically) Aaaah, lovely Bella...That's not how Gallente politics works, in the main. Nothing is "beneath" these types.
"I are kyute Fed Nationalist-kitteh!
"Me platform konsists of da folluhwin':
HER-BLERF! HERF-BELRF! BRAINLESS NATIONALISM! RACISM AND BIGOTRY! GALLENTE GOOD! ALL OTHERS INFERIOR! HERF-BLERF!"
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Maximillian Triton
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.09.01 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tarryn Nightstorm
Originally by: Anabella Rella [...]It's beneath the head of a Gallentean political party [...]
(smiles cynically) Aaaah, lovely Bella...That's not how Gallente politics works, in the main. Nothing is "beneath" these types.
"I are kyute Fed Nationalist-kitteh!
"Me platform konsists of da folluhwin':
HER-BLERF! HERF-BELRF! BRAINLESS NATIONALISM! RACISM AND BIGOTRY! GALLENTE GOOD! ALL OTHERS INFERIOR! HERF-BLERF!"
I see I'm not the only one with an acute understanding of Gallente politics here. I applaud your keen insight Mr Nightstorm.
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Nachshon
Caldari Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:55:00 -
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Counterpoint: rebellion sounds cooler than uprising. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship.
The True Meaning of Freedom
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Jason Galente
Gallente mishima ryu
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Posted - 2011.09.01 20:27:00 -
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Mr. Triton, don't be so myopic. The Gallente Nationalist Party is an extremist group that recieves very little votes in the Federation. There's a sour grape in every harvest, but to deem the harvest lost simply because you got a taste of that nasty grape is foolish.
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Malcolm Khross
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.09.02 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Galente Mr. Triton, don't be so myopic. The Gallente Nationalist Party is an extremist group that recieves very little votes in the Federation. There's a sour grape in every harvest, but to deem the harvest lost simply because you got a taste of that nasty grape is foolish.
This, most certainly.
Always remember that it is almost always the extremist minority that is the most outspoken in any situation because it garners them the attention they need to stay afloat amidst the sea of logic.
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Mekhana
Gallente Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.09.02 16:31:00 -
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Unfortunately the general populace from the Federation is very oblivious to the intricacies of the Minmatar people such as cultural differences and know very little about their society. Or should I have said that in plural? I read an article a few months ago stating that our youth were using tribal tattoos because they thought it would be something hip to do. That's a big no-no.
We Gallente are very self absorved people, I admit but we aren't bad folk generally. And even the less political aware Gallente can not downplay the importance and benefits of the friendship between our peoples. The Minmatar have as much to offer in a war effort as we can offer them these days. That's the beauty of a nation on the rise.
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Maximillian Triton
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.09.02 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Galente Mr. Triton, don't be so myopic. The Gallente Nationalist Party is an extremist group that recieves very little votes in the Federation. There's a sour grape in every harvest, but to deem the harvest lost simply because you got a taste of that nasty grape is foolish.
I apologize for my remark Mr. Galente. As you can see the worthless rhetoric of the Nationalist Party is a rather glaring stain on your government. I am glad to hear that such a party has little say in Federation policy, which goes a long way toward people like myself keeping faith in yours. I suppose my remark was made after too long a time in the Khanid Kingdom where rabble such as them are stifled, so as to prevent their influence from corrupting.
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Bastian Valoron
Gallente Gallente Independent Progressive Alternative
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Posted - 2011.09.04 21:12:00 -
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Let me remind all Minmatar academics that it is much more difficult to influence things from outside than from inside. If only there had been enough educators with Sebiestor background preparing the history curriculum, this confusing choice of wording could have been avoided.
In fact, the Gallente Federation offers great employment opportunities for the academically educated foreigners. A Matari professional can easily and effortlessly get a superior salary, benefits, career advancement, standard of living and and still remain highly competitive on the job market.
Especially doctors, pharmacists, scientists and engineers are seen as highly valuable immigrants. For many of them, seeking employment in the Gallente area has clearly and objectively been the best and only choice they could ever have made.
Thus, I'd like to take this opportunity to remind all Minmatar academics to seriously study their career options and keep in mind that Federation has much to offer for anyone who has the courage to accept the challenge.
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