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Noran Talidan Amarr	Posted - 2011.08.23 02:01:00 - [1] Here is my setup for my mission worthy Harby. The Hardeners can obviously be changed around but other then that what do you guys and gals think? Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Sensor Booster I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II Heavy Beam Laser II Heavy Beam Laser II Heavy Beam Laser II Heavy Beam Laser II Heavy Beam Laser II Heavy Beam Laser II Salvager I Empty Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Hammerhead II Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/55411-Harbinger-PVE-L-R.html#ixzz1VoTkru7a
Ildryn	Posted - 2011.08.23 02:47:00 - [2] You're missing a laser. Use smaller lasers if your fitting does not have enough cpu/pg. This fit gives you more dps, better armor repair and is cap stable. Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II Salvager I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Wind Rush Norana	Posted - 2011.08.23 11:28:00 - [3] Originally by: Ildryn You're missing a laser. Use smaller lasers if your fitting does not have enough cpu/pg. This fit gives you more dps, better armor repair and is cap stable. Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II Salvager I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Good fit. I would drop one of the armor hardeners and use a 3rd heat sink instead. Plus, make sure you use Scorch crystals. And I would seriously be tempted to use a shield hardener or target painter in place of the 3rd cap recharger.
Leppa Avato	Posted - 2011.08.23 12:38:00 - [4] Quote: Good fit. I would drop one of the armor hardeners and use a 3rd heat sink instead. Plus, make sure you use Scorch crystals. And I would seriously be tempted to use a shield hardener or target painter in place of the 3rd cap recharger. Im pretty certain with 2 aux nano's instead of ccc's you really need that third cap recharger. And even then you woulnd't exchange them for a shield hardener(lol?) or a target painter...
Noran Talidan Amarr	Posted - 2011.08.23 15:54:00 - [5] Ok I came up with 2 new fits not sure which one to choose yet, what do you guys think? 1st: [Harbinger, PVE L/R] Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 10MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Salvager I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Hammerhead II x5 [Statistics - Noran Talidan] Effective HP: 47,255 Tank Ability: 198.26 DPS Damage Profile - Guristas (EM: 0.00%, Ex: 0.00%, Ki: 83.57%, Th: 16.43%) Shield Resists - EM: 0.00%, Ex: 50.00%, Ki: 40.00%, Th: 20.00% Armor Resists - EM: 50.00%, Ex: 20.00%, Ki: 82.38%, Th: 70.75% Capacitor: Stable at 26.82% Volley Damage: 1,131.21 DPS: 350.43 2nd: [Harbinger, PVE L/R] Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 10MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Salvager I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Hammerhead II x5 [Statistics - Noran Talidan] Effective HP: 47,255 Tank Ability: 224.10 DPS Damage Profile - Guristas (EM: 0.00%, Ex: 0.00%, Ki: 83.57%, Th: 16.43%) Shield Resists - EM: 0.00%, Ex: 50.00%, Ki: 40.00%, Th: 20.00% Armor Resists - EM: 50.00%, Ex: 20.00%, Ki: 82.38%, Th: 70.75% Capacitor: Lasts 5m 7s Volley Damage: 1,131.21 DPS: 350.43 As you can see, one has more tank then the other, but one has stable cap while the other does not. Suggestions?
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions	Posted - 2011.08.23 16:20:00 - [6] This is how you fit a cap stable L3 mission Harb: [Harbinger, mishin harb] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M [empty high slot] Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Hammerhead II x5 If you don't want/need/care about cap stability swap a cap recharger for a web (definitely not a shield hardener). If you have great cap skills, dropping one ANP for a nanobot accelerator will improve your tank somewhat without compromising stability. If you can't use T2 pulse, use beams. If you run in to CPU issues, drop one heat sink for a tracking enhancer. If you run in to grid issues, first try swapping the T2 AB for a YS-8 (there's really no reason not to do this right off the bat). If you still have grid issues, downgrade to FMPIIs as needed. If you absolutely must have more tank (you really shouldn't need it; use Scorch to dictate range while applying damage) try a swapping a suitcase for one of the heatsinks. And that's pretty much all there is to it.
Ildryn	Posted - 2011.08.23 21:31:00 - [7] Originally by: Noran Talidan Ok I came up with 2 new fits not sure which one to choose yet, what do you guys think? 1st: [Harbinger, PVE L/R] Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 10MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Salvager I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Hammerhead II x5 [Statistics - Noran Talidan] Effective HP: 47,255 Tank Ability: 198.26 DPS Damage Profile - Guristas (EM: 0.00%, Ex: 0.00%, Ki: 83.57%, Th: 16.43%) Shield Resists - EM: 0.00%, Ex: 50.00%, Ki: 40.00%, Th: 20.00% Armor Resists - EM: 50.00%, Ex: 20.00%, Ki: 82.38%, Th: 70.75% Capacitor: Stable at 26.82% Volley Damage: 1,131.21 DPS: 350.43 2nd: [Harbinger, PVE L/R] Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 10MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Salvager I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Hammerhead II x5 [Statistics - Noran Talidan] Effective HP: 47,255 Tank Ability: 224.10 DPS Damage Profile - Guristas (EM: 0.00%, Ex: 0.00%, Ki: 83.57%, Th: 16.43%) Shield Resists - EM: 0.00%, Ex: 50.00%, Ki: 40.00%, Th: 20.00% Armor Resists - EM: 50.00%, Ex: 20.00%, Ki: 82.38%, Th: 70.75% Capacitor: Lasts 5m 7s Volley Damage: 1,131.21 DPS: 350.43 As you can see, one has more tank then the other, but one has stable cap while the other does not. Suggestions? Great...now lets improve on that. Level 3s right? [Harbinger, PVE L/R] Medium Armor Repairer II Power Diagnostic System II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 10MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Heavy Beam Laser II Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Beam Laser II Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Salvager I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Hammerhead II x5 [Statistics - Ildryn] Effective HP: 34043 Tank Ability: 145 guristas Damage Profile - Guristas (EM: 0.00%, Ex: 0.00%, Ki: 83.57%, Th: 16.43%) Shield Resists - EM: 0.00%, Ex: 50.00%, Ki: 40.00%, Th: 20.00% Armor Resists - EM: 50.00%, Ex: 20.00%, Ki: 66.38%, Th: 70.8% Capacitor: Lasts 47% cap stable Volley Damage: 1614 DPS: 593


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