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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2011.08.27 06:47:00 -
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I'm not sure what this thread is about so I'm here to say:
Fix Faction Warfare!
--- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved |
AnzacPaul
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.08.27 06:58:00 -
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Edited by: AnzacPaul on 27/08/2011 06:58:34
Originally by: Denidil
A) link to them shooting down those items B) the artists that do ships, stations and interface are not likely to be the artists that do NeX items. Usually different artists are good at different things, just like everyone else. C) "CCP are not doing the things <B>I</B> want them to do!" does not constitute harm to the game.
it is as likely as not that NeX items are taking time from Artists that would have been dedicated to other things. but then again CCP has wanted to do Incarna for 5 years, so they likely already had a whole ****ton of artwork budgeted out.
You and I would probably agree on a lot of the things they SHOULD be doing, what we're disagreeing on is that you are overreacting to a silly cosmetic side thing.
What you fail to see is that the artists being paid to develop clothes, could have been artists paid to help fix the game, ESPECIALLY when it has been stated by CCP a few times that the art department is always backed up with things to do.
CCP are continuing to spend money to develop non-gameplay mechanics in an attempt to make more money, and real issues and fixes, improvements etc get pushed aside of forgotten completely because of it. The promised cyno effect is but a sample of this. Artists are paid to develop a whole line of clothing, yet the art department can't get enough resources to fix one of the longest running "request" threads going around?
THATS THE PROBLEM, not M/T themselves. ______
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Thornat
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Posted - 2011.08.27 07:19:00 -
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Just out of curiousity...
Who is this "We" or the "us" you are refering Who is this "Majority of us" you speak of?
You really are full of yourself aren't? You think because you throw in a couple of we's and us in a forum post that you suddenly have friends? I would be curious where you got the idea that you are part of a majority?
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The Old Chap
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Posted - 2011.08.27 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ryhss It ****es me, and probably most others, that CCP wastes time and resources on crap most of the player base doesn't even want, instead of fixing old game mechanics that are sorely lacking. Like Hybrids.
Lolz. You can train Large Autocannon AND Artillery specialisation to level 5 before CCP even THINK about looking at Hybrids. |
Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.08.27 12:41:00 -
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Let's say CCP had an extra $50,000 laying around. CCP has a choice to make how they spend that money. They can spent it on an artist to crank out new space ship models all year so we can get shiney new ship models for hulls in dire need of an update, or they can spend it on an artist to crank out NEX store merchandise.
CCP has chosen the latter. That's the problem. If there weren't so many parts of Eve that needed graphical overhauls and CCP were actually being smart with "microtransactions" and making them affordable so that the NEX store was not only self sufficient but churning a profit and allowing CCP to hire even more spaceship art, then people wouldn't have such a problem with NEX.
But as it stands we're all subsidizing NEX and the spaceship side of Eve is being neglected. |
Denidil
Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn
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Posted - 2011.08.27 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Pytria Le'Danness
Originally by: Denidil A) link to them shooting down those items
As a software engineer you probably can use Google. I'd have to do the very same thing because linking the PDF on my PC will not do you much good.
it isn't my job to hunt down your citations.
Originally by: Forum Worrier Stupid clueless OP, we do not care about MT, we care about the resource allocation within CCP.
While 94.73% of CCP's resources are completely tied up in making a couple of Nex store items every month there is no time for them to do more productive things like releasing the Incarna 1.1 patch this tuesday...
DOH!
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Originally by: AnzacPaul Edited by: AnzacPaul on 27/08/2011 06:58:34
Originally by: Denidil
A) link to them shooting down those items B) the artists that do ships, stations and interface are not likely to be the artists that do NeX items. Usually different artists are good at different things, just like everyone else. C) "CCP are not doing the things <B>I</B> want them to do!" does not constitute harm to the game.
it is as likely as not that NeX items are taking time from Artists that would have been dedicated to other things. but then again CCP has wanted to do Incarna for 5 years, so they likely already had a whole ****ton of artwork budgeted out.
You and I would probably agree on a lot of the things they SHOULD be doing, what we're disagreeing on is that you are overreacting to a silly cosmetic side thing.
What you fail to see is that the artists being paid to develop clothes, could have been artists paid to help fix the game, ESPECIALLY when it has been stated by CCP a few times that the art department is always backed up with things to do.
CCP are continuing to spend money to develop non-gameplay mechanics in an attempt to make more money, and real issues and fixes, improvements etc get pushed aside of forgotten completely because of it. The promised cyno effect is but a sample of this. Artists are paid to develop a whole line of clothing, yet the art department can't get enough resources to fix one of the longest running "request" threads going around?
THATS THE PROBLEM, not M/T themselves.
finally an intelligent point (yes it is similar to what some other people stated, but the difference is important).
this is a legitimate gripe. CCP might have figured the NEX store would pay for itself. whatever accountant figured that out should be canned.
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Covert Kitty
Amarr SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.08.27 14:38:00 -
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Quote: IT IS A COSMETIC ITEM: IT DOESN'T EFFECT YOU
As others said, its about resource allocation. Though lets step back a moment and pretend that cosmetic clothes were a highly requested feature (more than the hundreds of other things the artists could be doing/fixing).
In that situation It should have been added with gameplay to match. You could find the clothes as rare drops all over new eden for example. Some could be manufactured, who knows. In any case spending the money that we are investing in CCP on new ways to exploit us instead of actual content, is pretty insulting and counter productive.
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Trainwreck McGee
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Posted - 2011.08.27 14:46:00 -
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Another QQ thread about QQ'ing that is now more common then QQ threads
This is so meta its monocle |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.27 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Denidil Edited by: Denidil on 26/08/2011 17:42:56 We get it, some of you cannot freaking stand the idea of someone spending real money on a cosmetic item in game (it is rather dumb, is it not?) - but IT IS A COSMETIC ITEM: IT DOESN'T EFFECT YOU. Stop emoraging. the majority of us that don't care about cosmetic MT are tired of hearing your freaking QQ.
heck, i welcome cosmetic MT because the dumb newbs that like buying cosmetic items are just paying for eve on going development.
if they make game affecting MT i (and many others) will be right there with you being royalled honked off. but until then STOP ACTING LIKE CHICKEN LITTLE.
LESS QQ MOAR PEW PEW
/before you get more butthurt this post is only 50% serious, it is also 40% snark and 110% LOL
Speaking for "majority of us" or "most of us" is bit careless unless you have some research to back up your claims.
Obviously I don't belong to your majority as my vote goes against MT. However MT with "vanity only"-items is the next best option and there are ways to live with it. It still doesn't mean that I would agree and stop caring. I've paid my subscription and that should be enough.
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Denidil
Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn
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Posted - 2011.08.27 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Grey Stormshadow I've paid my subscription and that should be enough.
that is enough.
there is nothing in the NEX that you have to buy, and CCP has stated they will never put game altering items in the NEX. |
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Reilly Duvolle
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Posted - 2011.08.27 15:47:00 -
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OP, read the minutes from the latest CCP/CSM regular meeting in may. The one chokepoint that comes up most frequently as a showstopper to player input is - yes exactly - the art departement.
So what do you think the art departemenet is doing? Exactly. Designing ****ing furniture and clothes. Dont even pretend that developer priorities doesnt have real impact on what get fixed when, because if you do, you just look like a moron.
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.27 15:53:00 -
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I get the feeling that OP is just hoarding for attention he didn't get at home as a child.
Oh well... fail troll is fail. |
Velicitia
Gallente Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.08.27 15:55:00 -
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Think I'll just leave this here...
and if you can't be arsed to read thru the devblog about the minutes... suppose this is what you'll be needing. =========================
Originally by: CCP Games, 2010 Creation is so precious; and greed, so destructive. Your choices can make a diference
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Tokyo Rose
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Posted - 2011.08.27 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia I'm not sure what this thread is about so I'm here to say:
Fix Faction Warfare!
And this my friend is the reason for all this rage over incarna and other useless eyecandy is so prevelant.
Sure we know that the incarna devs can't fix faction war but the point is that the entire development focus of the game went away from pvp into this crap.
If there was no incarna or silly virtual clothes crap all that development effort could have been put into fixing the pew instead of wasted on some shiney clothes that cost more than most high priced real life designer brands.
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