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dum dumdum
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Posted - 2011.08.30 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 16:33:46
Originally by: Jovan Geldon
Originally by: dum dumdum
Originally by: Jovan Geldon
Originally by: dum dumdum
And thinking themselves important enough to ask CCP for "special privileges" to protect themselves from war decs ...
Yep. Eve Uni clearly WINs at EVE.
Did you even read the thread?
Yes i did. Lemme summarise it for you ...
TLDR -
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Did i miss anything out?
Apart from the bit where Keld asking CCP for NPC corp-like protection being a totally made up "fact", no.
The same power hungry carebears reacted as expected and posted to defend their E-Honour and to try and pass off the Uni Corp as something other than a carebear corp that goes to great lengths to try and avoid war decs and PvP.
I am suprised. I thought you would leap to the defence of the Uni staff whose Ehonor and Epeen i have tarnished. But instead you seem to agree.
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: dum dumdum A) Please dont be under the impression that the graduate medal means much outside of the Uni
I wanted it for myself. I did spend three months putting up with their rules. I deserve my medal.
Quote: B) Thank you for point out that the Uni is an easy target for griefing.
Point would not be the quality PvP (thus the monetary enticement for folks to kill them.) Point would be to use the WSOP as a weapon against the Uni. They'd either adapt and change or die. Six months under full WSOP, they'd be left with only a few hundred members at that point. Anyhow, more of a thought exercise on how to give them a clean slate from which to work.
A) Fair enough.
B) The WSOP has always been a weapon against the Uni. Thats why most of the bearbears leave every wardec. The ones who stay fly fail fleets (1%) and station spin (99%). True a prolonged wardec of months may make things worse. However the carebear corp will think of ways to avoid this. Perhaps Making another alliance and corp (Ivy League Mk II & Eve University Mk II) and basically jumping corps during each war dec. I dont put anything past these power tripping carebears anymore. Not since they waste isk making accounts to self war dec themselves in a vain effort to stop the wardecs.
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Goddess Ishtar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.30 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Poetic Stanziel What obsession?
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel If I had 50B ISK, I'd drive E-UNI into the ground (they'd either adapt or wither away.) First use 10-15B to implement a 6-month continuous wardec on them. Second, invite anyone to come and go from the corp as they please to attack and kill Unistas. Third, to entice people to kill Unistas, offer 5M if they are on a Unista killed-mail while under the corp banner (per killmail as well, so if you participate in killing 10 Unistas in one day, you'd earn 50M ISK.) Since the Uni would not be able to keep track of wartargets (they come and go daily), they'd have to remain under full lockdown. They'd still have fleets going out and worth killing. And tracking their fleets is super-easy. Create an account on their forums using an alt. Log onto their Mumble server. Check the fleet channels for the FCs/WCs, run locator agents on them, you now know pretty much where they'er roaming. The Uni rarely operates more than 25 jumps out of Aldrat.
But I don't have 50B ISK, so they should consider themselves lucky.
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.30 16:39:00 -
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I wish there were more threads like this. Makes me pine a bit for the old 'Hub Zero' threads. As much as I loathe melodrama, I love reading about it.
Gotta chuckle a bit at OP. 'I hate these guys but I'm gonna vote for them but if I had 50B ISK I'd KILL THEM ALL but oooh, look at the shiny medal they gave me!'
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Poetic Stanziel
Gallente Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.30 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: AkJon Ferguson I wish there were more threads like this. Makes me pine a bit for the old 'Hub Zero' threads. As much as I loathe melodrama, I love reading about it.
Gotta chuckle a bit at OP. 'I hate these guys but I'm gonna vote for them but if I had 50B ISK I'd KILL THEM ALL but oooh, look at the shiny medal they gave me!'
Love-hate.
They do some good for the game. But they also have a directorate of self-entitled dumbasses.
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dum dumdum
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Posted - 2011.08.30 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 16:48:28 Funny that innitially the Eve Uni guys were quick to post and defend their E-Honor (at least those who are ALLOWED to in the EVE UNI LONG BORING LIST OF RULES OF WHAT YOU CAN AND CANT DO).
Now its just silence. Guess there is no more denial ...
The Drama LLama has pointed out some terrible truths in the Uni management causing others to point out even more. I wouldnt be suprised if the carebear management have called an EMERGENCY SUMMIT to discuss how to progess...
Next on EN24.
Eve University Latest Scandal. Kelduum actually UNDOCKS and leads a fleet to PvP some asteroids to improve Carebear MORALE. The Uni is quoted to be back at "WINNING EVE"
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Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2011.08.30 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: dum dumdum Well to give some insight here, its not exactly the pilots fault. They simply arent taught how to pvp
It might have got lost a little in the garble, but that is essentially the point I was trying to make. Obviously it's not the new players fault; it's the fault of the "FC" who knows nothing other than the battle tactic you described. ---------------
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dum dumdum
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Posted - 2011.08.30 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 16:54:04
Originally by: Khanh'rhh
Originally by: dum dumdum Well to give some insight here, its not exactly the pilots fault. They simply arent taught how to pvp
It might have got lost a little in the garble, but that is essentially the point I was trying to make. Obviously it's not the new players fault; it's the fault of the "FC" who knows nothing other than the battle tactic you described.
Given that the Uni "encourages anyone to step up and be a FC" its not suprising that the Uni Fleets are a joke.
I am all for people learning through experience and that will always involve losing ships. However the blind leading the blind approach of the Uni will lead to epic fail. Hence you arent allowed to rig your frigs and you are not ALLOWED to fly some t2 ships because its Uni policy that their intended result is that the uni fleets end in fail.
"We didnt want those ships anyway"
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Korr'Tanas
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: dum dumdum Funny that innitially the Eve Uni guys were quick to post and defend their E-Honor (at least those who are ALLOWED to in the EVE UNI LONG BORING LIST OF RULES OF WHAT YOU CAN AND CANT DO).
All uni pilots are allowed to post here actually. Must be some other reason why pretty much no one bothers to.
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dum dumdum
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 17:23:04
Originally by: Korr'Tanas
Originally by: dum dumdum Funny that innitially the Eve Uni guys were quick to post and defend their E-Honor (at least those who are ALLOWED to in the EVE UNI LONG BORING LIST OF RULES OF WHAT YOU CAN AND CANT DO).
All uni pilots are allowed to post here actually. Must be some other reason why pretty much no one bothers to.
As much respect as i have for you Korrtanas (<3 the dragon slaying OPs) im sure Azmodeous and Co can refute you on that. Perhaps a refresher on Welcome to Eve Uni class is needed.
Funnily enough the class is more about "rules of what you cannot do while in Eve Uni" rather than anything else. Start as the carebears mean to carry on.
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Poetic Stanziel
Gallente Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Korr'Tanas
Originally by: dum dumdum Funny that innitially the Eve Uni guys were quick to post and defend their E-Honor (at least those who are ALLOWED to in the EVE UNI LONG BORING LIST OF RULES OF WHAT YOU CAN AND CANT DO).
All uni pilots are allowed to post here actually. Must be some other reason why pretty much no one bothers to.
Azmodeus: "It should go without saying that students should not be posting in this thread. Let management take care of it."
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Korr'Tanas
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:28:00 -
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Trust me, I know the rules. This isn't CAOD, uni pilots are allowed to post in this thread.
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dum dumdum
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:31:00 -
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Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 17:32:50
Originally by: Korr'Tanas Trust me, I know the rules. This isn't CAOD, uni pilots are allowed to post in this thread.
Ok, i wont continue to further argue on this point.
Also when is the next dragon slayer? Seems that the Uni needs a morale booster. I can provide a carrier if you can pay for it (after subtracting the insurance ofc). Compared to how much isk the Uni wastes on Faildecshield, it would be a good investment and a boost to your killboard.
Plus i heard that it wont be the first time that the uni stages a kill to improve morale "70+ shooters on a single Pod".
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Poetic Stanziel
Gallente Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Korr'Tanas Trust me, I know the rules. This isn't CAOD, uni pilots are allowed to post in this thread.
I got in **** for posting at EN24. The posting rules are kind of as Azmodeus defines them day-to-day.
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dum dumdum
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 17:44:59
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: Korr'Tanas
Originally by: dum dumdum Funny that innitially the Eve Uni guys were quick to post and defend their E-Honor (at least those who are ALLOWED to in the EVE UNI LONG BORING LIST OF RULES OF WHAT YOU CAN AND CANT DO).
All uni pilots are allowed to post here actually. Must be some other reason why pretty much no one bothers to.
Azmodeus: "It should go without saying that students should not be posting in this thread. Let management take care of it."
This is one thing that the Uni does do very very well. It scares the poop outta new recruits that they dont do anything that may even be remotely against one of the many "rules" of Eve Uni.
A common conversation on the Uni Voice Coms server
new n00b - Hey can i do XXX older n00bs - NO new n00b - Why not older n00bs - Its against the rules - Link to Eve Uni Wiki Pages of Rules new n00b - Why is it against the rules ... older n00bs - ... silence ... (we dont know) ... its NOT ALLOWED new n00b - but ... older n00bs - If you do it Admiral Silentbrick or Ubercado will come and pod kill you and then you will get kicked from the Uni. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? new n00b - ... no ... older n00bs - Order is restored (we WIN at EVE)
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Barbara Nichole on 30/08/2011 17:45:45
Quote: Granted, I heard this second-hand,
my uncles cousins wifes friend said she heard from a reliable source that....
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Poetic Stanziel
Gallente Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Barbara Nichole Edited by: Barbara Nichole on 30/08/2011 17:45:45 Quote: Granted, I heard this second-hand,
my uncles cousins wifes friend said she heard from a reliable source that....
What? What did she hear? Don't leave us hanging!
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Poetic Stanziel
Gallente Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Barbara Nichole P.S. linking to yourself doesn't make the rumour more credible.
Kelduum adds much to the credibility on the second page. Keep reading. It's a fun thread.
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dum dumdum
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:54:00 -
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Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 17:54:33
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: Korr'Tanas Trust me, I know the rules. This isn't CAOD, uni pilots are allowed to post in this thread.
I got in **** for posting at EN24. The posting rules are kind of as Azmodeus defines them day-to-day.
Suprised much? Thats what you get for rocking the Carebear boat. OMG YOU PUBLIC POSTED! ORPHANAGE WILL WAR DEC US NOW! OH NOEZ!
Power Tripping Carebears. They cant beat you in Eve so they beat you in the only way they can ... beurocracy.
And as a side note, do you give a f*** if you are talked down upon by a Director of Logistics? Aka the king of the most carebear profession. He / She is probably ****ed that he/she cant macro mine as much with his/her 10+ accounts of orcas and hulks. Clearly you may disrupt his/her WINNING at EVE.
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CARB0N FIBER
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Posted - 2011.08.30 18:00:00 -
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Closing thread. If you would like to discuss CCP actions further you are welcome to contact us via a petition but please do not discuss on the forums.
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Poetic Stanziel
Gallente Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.30 18:01:00 -
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Edited by: Poetic Stanziel on 30/08/2011 18:04:52
Originally by: dum dumdum Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 16:24:08 Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 16:13:05
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: dum dumdum Admiral Silentn00b
Funny Silentb00b story.
Two weeks ago, he brings out his first fleet in months. To Russian sov space. He's carrying an SBU unit with him.
In the sov system, he places the SBU unit and anchors it. Apparently, after anchoring an SBU, you have to wait some period of time before you can online it. Everyone is sitting around chatting. Waiting. The time approaches when it can be onlined. Suddenly a Cheetah from U.K.R.A.I.N.E. uncloaks next to the SBU and he onlines it. Cheetah gets away. Everyone sits around dumbfounded.
This is the killmail of the Uni destroying its own SBU.
Good times.
The Uni now teaches a Sovereignty 101 class.
The Rear Admiral wanted to disprove his pvp impotency by leading a great fleet to do a nice POS Bash. Last minute n00bing around lead him to realise that shooting a POS which actually has some defence may lead to actually risking your ship in pvp. Deterred by this revalation, Silentn00b instead decided to do what you have described.
This is Silentbrick's interpretation of the evening:
"Lemme think, instead we went on a rampage and oh, killed a POS. So there's a flaw in your whining. Besides, if the intelligence landscape changes in EVE, we must change with it."
As found at his blog. His blog post was a reply to my description of the evening.
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dum dumdum
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Posted - 2011.08.30 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: CARB0N FIBER Closing thread. If you would like to discuss CCP actions further you are welcome to contact us via a petition but please do not discuss on the forums.
haha epic fail
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CARB0N FIBER
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Posted - 2011.08.30 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: dum dumdum
Originally by: CARB0N FIBER Closing thread. If you would like to discuss CCP actions further you are welcome to contact us via a petition but please do not discuss on the forums.
haha epic fail
You've been warned! Violence will be done(in game).
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Crystal Liche
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Posted - 2011.08.30 18:08:00 -
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Hmm, this would really be an employee run corp.
I think the one clear line would have to be that the employee(s) in charge of this corp should not have any access or authority when it comes to resolving disputes.
For example, pirate whacks new player, a no no but not a GM issue.
What if under the new plan the employee leader, under the guise of some subjective criteria such as "greifing", has the pirates account banned?
Not good.
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Kunming
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Xenon-Empire
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Posted - 2011.08.30 18:10:00 -
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This should never happen.
Not only because of the obvious exploitablity and abuse of power in the hands of 3rd party interests (aka player run, not CCP run), its also counter productive to the goals of CCP (promote ppl to join player corps, break echo chambers and really have fun), which are good for the health of the game in the long run.
I always teach noobs, maybe not en masse like EVE uni but the ones I tutor become the best pvpers, FCs and the like.
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Poetic Stanziel
Gallente Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.30 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: dum dumdum EDIT- Also plz more links to your blog thnx
His blog post needed the context. (I've refrained from posting links for the last three pages, man, cut me some slack! )
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dum dumdum
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Posted - 2011.08.30 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: CARB0N FIBER
Originally by: dum dumdum
Originally by: CARB0N FIBER Closing thread. If you would like to discuss CCP actions further you are welcome to contact us via a petition but please do not discuss on the forums.
haha epic fail
You've been warned! Violence will be done(in game).
Feel free to violence me good. Run some locator agents on me.
Does it make you space important to threaten me to restore your E-Honor?
Also your post history is laughable.
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CARB0N FIBER
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Posted - 2011.08.30 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: dum dumdum Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 18:17:13
Originally by: CARB0N FIBER
Originally by: dum dumdum
Originally by: CARB0N FIBER Closing thread. If you would like to discuss CCP actions further you are welcome to contact us via a petition but please do not discuss on the forums.
haha epic fail
You've been warned! Violence will be done(in game).
Feel free to violence me good. Run some locator agents on me.
Does it make you space important to threaten me to restore your E-Honor?
Also your post history is laughable.
quote] I see some prison style violence in your future! drop and spread em in game!
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dum dumdum
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Posted - 2011.08.30 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 18:33:15
Originally by: CARB0N FIBER I see some prison style violence in your future! drop and spread em in game!
Good luck with that
@ Poetic
Spies in the Uni mumble have indicated that a group which includes the Admiral are out for your blood. I wonder if griefing and suicide ganking are allowed in the long list of Uni rules? Then again there is always the GTFO outta Jail card (Director ordered it so its ok). Either way id watch your back Poetic.
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Bubbles Udan
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.08.30 18:34:00 -
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Poetic I am truly disappointed.
CCP is going to turn these forums into facebook next patch.
If you had waited a few more days, this thread would have had much more ironic humor.
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Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2011.08.30 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Korr'Tanas Trust me, I know the rules. This isn't CAOD, uni pilots are allowed to post in this thread.
In true University style, some suggested reading on the subject to which you may find the following pertinent:
Quote: IVY members are not authorised to post on the 'Corporations, Alliances and Organizations Center' of the Eve Online forums unless given explicit permission by a director. IVY members are not authorised to post on any thread on the Eve Online forums which mentions a current or past conflict involving IVY or E-UNI, unless given explicit permission by a director.
By the way, this thread mentions several, both personal and corp/alliance wide.
Oops. ---------------
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