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Jitas Prostitute
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Posted - 2011.08.31 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: Jitas Prostitute on 31/08/2011 18:47:34 I keep hearing minmatar is the best and galente sucks.
why do you think so?
personally i like minmatar because of style also cause of fast pvp ships -- "i will do anything and look like ten shades of loser for her. If that isnt manning up.. I dont know what is." -TheDarkness Incarnate (beta male) |
Ragnar Skoordsen
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Posted - 2011.08.31 18:53:00 -
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I just bought a rifter and is it ever slick! I can even do lvl 2's in it! |
Ragnar Skoordsen
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Posted - 2011.08.31 20:37:00 -
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what do you think the best minmatar cruiser is? I want a rupture cause it looks cool but the stabber is faster
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Aquana Abyss
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Posted - 2011.09.01 00:13:00 -
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Yes.
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Sphit Ker
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.09.01 05:26:00 -
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720mm have awesome alpha, AC's tracking is most excellent, mid and long ranged ammos are tracking bonused on top of that, Fitting issues are seldom heard of, Very little concern for the state of the capacitor, Best agility..
yup. Minnies sure got a lot going for them right now.
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Gibbo5771
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Posted - 2011.09.01 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sphit Ker 720mm have awesome alpha, AC's tracking is most excellent, mid and long ranged ammos are tracking bonused on top of that, Fitting issues are seldom heard of, Very little concern for the state of the capacitor, Best agility..
yup. Minnies sure got a lot going for them right now.
This guys clueless.....
They dont get a tracking bonus with long range ammo, it gets a tracking penalty. Minnie have cpu issues on many ships but since they are so good in the first place a co-pro never goes amis, the vagabond is hard to fit without AWU and implant.
Porbably a lot of other **** i cant be aresed typing.
However, minnie are OP
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foksieloy
Minmatar Rockets ponies and rainbows
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Posted - 2011.09.01 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Gibbo5771 They dont get a tracking bonus with long range ammo, it gets a tracking penalty.
Actually T1 ammo gets a bonus, T2 ammo gets a penalty. Having said that, T1 long range ammo is utter ****. _______________________ The best thing in EvE is Barrage M. |
Xylorn Hasher
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Posted - 2011.09.01 09:44:00 -
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Yes Matars ships are the best in 90% of cases but that doesn't mean other races doesn't have good ships also. Arazu, Pilgrim, Ishtar, Tengu, Myrmidon are great PvP ships.
Minmatar ships strenght lay in that they can be fitted in many ways ( armor/shield Cane ) have a great falloff and are fast and that make them perfect option for solo PvP.
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Red Teufel
Blackened Skies
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Posted - 2011.09.01 11:50:00 -
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eve game modes: caldari: very easy Minmatar: easy Amaar: medium Gallente: hard
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TaluxA
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Posted - 2011.09.01 11:53:00 -
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Minmatar ships have the best speed, very good damage, okay range and can often fit the highest tier guns with fitting left over for utility mods (neuts for example). They pretty much have the perfect combination of stats for solo or very small gangs. Plus they work well in bigger gangs because of the ridiculously high alpha on artillery.
It's not so much minmatar being overpowered as gallente and caldari blaster boats being kinda weak. Giving caldari and gallente a bit of extra fitting would do so much to balance the game.. but yeah, not likely to happen anytime soon.
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foksieloy
Minmatar Rockets ponies and rainbows
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Posted - 2011.09.01 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Red Teufel eve game modes: caldari: very easy Minmatar: easy Amaar: medium Gallente: hard
Back when i was a kid that used to be:
Galente: very easy Caldari: easy Amarr: medium Minmatar: super hard _______________________ The best thing in EvE is Barrage M. |
Larton Dretta
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Posted - 2011.09.01 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Red Teufel eve game modes: caldari: very easy Minmatar: easy Amaar: medium Gallente: hard
Stuck up your own ass much?
Minmatar takes just as much piloting skills as Gallente, it's a matter of what you can and can't engage. It has everything to do with ship's capabilities and nothing to do with it being easier or harder to pilot, don't be stupid. Better isn't easier, it's better in the right hands.
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ValentinaDLM
Minmatar Ubi Concordia Ibi Victoria
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Posted - 2011.09.01 13:40:00 -
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Edited by: ValentinaDLM on 01/09/2011 13:40:25 Matari ships and Angel cartel ships are in my view overpowered in certain cases. It isn't however as simple as saying the whole race is overpowered.
For frigates, it is very hard to say that the rifter isn't the best, in the vast majority of circumstances. The Republic Fleet Firetail however, I feel is in line with the other faction frigates, not overpowered at all.
For cruisers while the ruppy is very good, the stabber's cap problems make it not so good. You would be hard pressed though to say that a ruppy is just outright better than a vexor, arbitrator,maller, etc.
I could go on, minmatar is frustrating, but not really very overpowered as a whole, Angel Cartel ships on the other hand I feel are overpowered, as I just don't see a phantasm for example even being close to a cynabal in PVP, and the ship doesn't really have a PVE role either. Honestly though, nerf the dram and give the phantasm it's missing slot, give the ishtar more CPU, and I would be happy with things.
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Red Teufel
Blackened Skies
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Posted - 2011.09.01 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Larton Dretta
Originally by: Red Teufel eve game modes: caldari: very easy Minmatar: easy Amaar: medium Gallente: hard
Stuck up your own ass much?
Minmatar takes just as much piloting skills as Gallente, it's a matter of what you can and can't engage. It has everything to do with ship's capabilities and nothing to do with it being easier or harder to pilot, don't be stupid. Better isn't easier, it's better in the right hands.
simma down naw. of course skills of the pilot play the biggest part however the easiest races are the ones that take the least amount of time to train the sp needed to fly them decently. also speed + shields give a very big advantage in eve these days increasing the survivability of the pilot. if you are armor and slow usually you either win or die. i could be the best eve pilot around and own everyone with a gallente ship but an average pilot will exceed the most with the 2 easiest races.
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Mister Alt
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Posted - 2011.09.01 15:15:00 -
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And the pendulum swings...
how many people remember the threadnaughts before the projectile changes? It seemed every other post in here was on how Amarr were OMGWTFOP!!!1!!11 and minmatar were about as useful as a Deimos has ever been. Doing missions in a Mael?? Lol noob get a raven was the standard response.
Its also a lot to do with modern PvP. If you're solo its expected that everyone and their shuttles will have backup > 30 secs away. In that situation it pays to have a GTFO button.
TL:DR Min are on top for 18 months, next year it will be someone else. Crosstrain
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Larton Dretta
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Red Teufel simma down naw. of course skills of the pilot play the biggest part however the easiest races are the ones that take the least amount of time to train the sp needed to fly them decently. also speed + shields give a very big advantage in eve these days increasing the survivability of the pilot. if you are armor and slow usually you either win or die. i could be the best eve pilot around and own everyone with a gallente ship but an average pilot will exceed the most with the 2 easiest races.
So what you're saying is, it's easier to use a kiting setup with minimum HP that requires spatial awareness and almost constant heat management of your MWD and warp disruptor than it is to hit keep at range 500m, maybe slingshot in if necessary and just let your ship do the work. As for SP, Minmatar take as much if not more SP than Gallente. This is your issue, you think that flying a ship that's severely underpowered is hard while in reality it's just limiting your options. Gallente isn't harder than Minmatar, actually when comparing it to Minmatar speed setups, Gallente is the straight up easy one to fly.
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:26:00 -
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Minmatar = Amarr >>> Caldari >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gallente >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gallente using blasters
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Imustbecomfused
Close Proximity
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:49:00 -
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Minmatar FTW!
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Dark Pangolin
Caldari Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:50:00 -
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Buff Sansha!...There I said it!
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Princess Nexxala
Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:55:00 -
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Yes Minmatar are incredibly OP, everyone should sell their Drakes and buy Hurricanes right now.
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Officer Nyota Uhura
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.09.01 22:26:00 -
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Sir:
Yes, Minmatar are overpowered.
Any other questions?
Wait, it's Xenuria's alt. Nah, almost got me.
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Dorian Tormak
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Posted - 2011.09.01 22:28:00 -
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Minmatar suck because their guns don't even use capacitor and their speed only helps them rush to their own demise!
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Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.09.02 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dorian Tormak Minmatar suck because their guns don't even use capacitor and their speed only helps them rush to their own demise!
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Mfume Apocal
Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.09.02 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Nexxala Yes Minmatar are incredibly OP, everyone should sell their Drakes and buy Hurricanes right now.
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KFenn
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.09.02 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sphit Ker Best agility..
Nope. Caldari have the best agility, Minmatar have the best speed. ---------------------------------------- Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Federation |
Red Teufel
Blackened Skies
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Posted - 2011.09.02 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Larton Dretta
Originally by: Red Teufel simma down naw. of course skills of the pilot play the biggest part however the easiest races are the ones that take the least amount of time to train the sp needed to fly them decently. also speed + shields give a very big advantage in eve these days increasing the survivability of the pilot. if you are armor and slow usually you either win or die. i could be the best eve pilot around and own everyone with a gallente ship but an average pilot will exceed the most with the 2 easiest races.
So what you're saying is, it's easier to use a kiting setup with minimum HP that requires spatial awareness and almost constant heat management of your MWD and warp disruptor than it is to hit keep at range 500m, maybe slingshot in if necessary and just let your ship do the work. As for SP, Minmatar take as much if not more SP than Gallente. This is your issue, you think that flying a ship that's severely underpowered is hard while in reality it's just limiting your options. Gallente isn't harder than Minmatar, actually when comparing it to Minmatar speed setups, Gallente is the straight up easy one to fly.
rofl!!!! I love how you make kiting sound sooo hard come back to me when you're reply has no falacy in it. if i want to read something that is a complete waste of my time and full of falacy...i'll read a news article.
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Larton Dretta
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Posted - 2011.09.02 20:30:00 -
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What's hard about Gallente then. |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.09.03 04:55:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 03/09/2011 04:57:37
Originally by: Larton Dretta What's hard about Gallente then.
Getting into range to apply damage.
EDIT: If you aren't flying a frigate class ship.
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Larton Dretta
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Posted - 2011.09.03 07:49:00 -
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It's no different from skills required for keeping ships at range.
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Norei Sholna
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Posted - 2011.09.03 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Larton Dretta What's hard about Gallente then.
The Thorax is...
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2011.09.03 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Larton Dretta It's no different from skills required for keeping ships at range.
Take a look at the ships that keep others at range. Notice they're not armour tanked bricks.
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Dr Geiger
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Posted - 2011.09.03 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Larton Dretta What's hard about Gallente then.
All the controls are labeled in French ?
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Dorian Tormak
M0N0LITH
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Posted - 2011.09.03 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris Edited by: chatgris on 03/09/2011 04:57:37
Originally by: Larton Dretta What's hard about Gallente then.
Getting into range to apply damage.
EDIT: If you aren't flying a frigate class ship.
This is just garbage. Up to BC class there's no trouble getting in range unless you're a ****ing smeghead. _______________
But then again, I am just a dirty 17 year old bogan. |
Larton Dretta
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Posted - 2011.09.04 08:25:00 -
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I love how you newbs can complain about the difficulty of flying Gallente while you label Caldari as very easy, while Caldari is just as much dependant on blasters as a race as Gallente. Nobody's complaining about Gallente drone boats, just like nobody's complaining about Caldari missile boats. Half the Caldari blaster boats can't fit a webefier without sacrificing half their tank, they're slower than Gallente and alot of them can't even field 5 drones. You've got a great idea about the game.
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Red Teufel
Blackened Skies
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Posted - 2011.09.05 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Larton Dretta I love how you newbs can complain about the difficulty of flying Gallente while you label Caldari as very easy, while Caldari is just as much dependant on blasters as a race as Gallente. Nobody's complaining about Gallente drone boats, just like nobody's complaining about Caldari missile boats. Half the Caldari blaster boats can't fit a webefier without sacrificing half their tank, they're slower than Gallente and alot of them can't even field 5 drones. You've got a great idea about the game.
what's to complain about when something works. If gallente had a choice between missiles and drones right now .... everyone would be using missiles.
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Larton Dretta
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Posted - 2011.09.05 10:27:00 -
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what does that have to do with anything, you can train for any ship you want, yet people fly every race, still your little list is idiotic, every race has good and bad ships, you box Caldari as an easy race purely because of the Drake, it's so stupid overall the race is alot harder to fly than Gallente, no tackle, no drone bays, low damage and speed, you've got no idea about this game, you're just crying because you're flying the "underpowered" race and you think it's hard
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2011.09.05 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Larton Dretta what does that have to do with anything, you can train for any ship you want, yet people fly every race, still your little list is idiotic, every race has good and bad ships, you box Caldari as an easy race purely because of the Drake, it's so stupid overall the race is alot harder to fly than Gallente, no tackle, no drone bays, low damage and speed, you've got no idea about this game, you're just crying because you're flying the "underpowered" race and you think it's hard
Yeah let's all fly Hurricanes! That'll be totally interesting and fun.
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Dorian Tormak
M0N0LITH
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Posted - 2011.09.05 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington
Originally by: Larton Dretta what does that have to do with anything, you can train for any ship you want, yet people fly every race, still your little list is idiotic, every race has good and bad ships, you box Caldari as an easy race purely because of the Drake, it's so stupid overall the race is alot harder to fly than Gallente, no tackle, no drone bays, low damage and speed, you've got no idea about this game, you're just crying because you're flying the "underpowered" race and you think it's hard
Yeah let's all fly Hurricanes! That'll be totally interesting and fun.
Besides the fact that it's already "totally interesting and fun", I don't think that is what Larton was trying to say. _________________________________ But then again, I am just a dirty 17 year old bogan. |
Mfume Apocal
Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.09.06 07:53:00 -
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Yeah, the response to that seems totally unrelated to what was written.
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Heun zero
Caldari Aegis Evolution
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Posted - 2011.09.07 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Norei Sholna
Originally by: Larton Dretta What's hard about Gallente then.
The Thorax is...
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Kara Books
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Posted - 2011.09.07 13:56:00 -
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First I wanted Amarr really bad... got into the battleships....
Then I wanted Minmi, really bad... got into the battleships....
Now I want Gallante, really bad... I know I will want Caldari battleships when I get into the Domi and Mega....
Because they are all very good in their own ways....
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s0lar pulse
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Posted - 2011.09.07 15:03:00 -
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You know what else is overpowered and should totally be nerfed? AIDS! Just saying...
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VegasMirage
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.09.07 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jitas Prostitute Edited by: Jitas Prostitute on 31/08/2011 18:47:34 I keep hearing minmatar is the best and galente sucks.
why do you think so?
personally i like minmatar because of style also cause of fast pvp ships
According to your name, you're the one who SUCKS, sign me up for some Jita late night cyber plz -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "You got LUCKY, luck is when opportunity and preparation meet." |
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