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Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
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Posted - 2012.09.26 09:22:00 -
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Why Jita is full of bots who spam jita local with scam links? i know scam is alowed but boting is ilegal, everyday same persons spam jita local for 100% in afk boting mode with program who uses macro to copy paste links or somthing like this, they 24/7 loged in jita, they never wrote any other message in local they just bots, somtime i try convo some of themt just to see online status... i see always only one message after conversation atempt, (You are not allowed to contact xxxx) This explain all, they block everyone and they afk.
I think we need more CCP employe in jita who can split and sort them...This jita madnes boting spams always remind me, low end mmos, where full of sh** spam, in game messages chanels, also in this gaming aspect EvE isn't better than other mmos.
Sorry for my horrible grammar. |
Samoth Egnoled
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
54
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Posted - 2012.09.26 09:27:00 -
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Botters are becoming a problem, However i dont spend much time in jita, Mostly because im a merc and there are too many unknowns in such a populated system. But when i am in there, i never ready local chat. as youve said its full of Botters, and also Scams. |
Kult Altol
Republican Industries Epsilon Fleet
104
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Posted - 2012.09.26 09:42:00 -
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Still needs to be fixed. I don't know why CCP allows this to continue. A narrow mind is a focused mind. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4880
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Posted - 2012.09.26 09:58:00 -
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show info
report bot please leave |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Kraken.
325
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Posted - 2012.09.26 10:01:00 -
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Can you be sure they're bots? Dropping the same message in local is pretty easy and I wouldn't bother accepting convos from people I don't know or haven't scammed if I was in their position.
If assets are supposed to be taken away when they're gained via botting, does that mean scammed assets should also be taken away if someone is using a chatbot to scam with a contract link? |
Pipa Porto
1051
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Posted - 2012.09.26 10:05:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:Why Jita is full of bots who spam jita local with scam links? i know scam is alowed but boting is ilegal, everyday same persons spam jita local for 100% in afk boting mode with program who uses macro to copy paste links or somthing like this, they 24/7 loged in jita, they never wrote any other message in local they just bots, somtime i try convo some of themt just to see online status... i see always only one message after conversation atempt, (You are not allowed to contact xxxx) This explain all, they block everyone and they afk.
I think we need more CCP employe in jita who can split and sort them...This jita madnes boting spams always remind me, low end mmos, where full of sh** spam, in game messages chanels, also in this gaming aspect EvE isn't better than other mmos.
Sorry for my horrible grammar.
Y U NO Report Bot?
Incidentally, I think it's Shift+Up Arrow that reposts your last post to Local. So the same message repeating doesn't really indicate a Bot. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Mai Khumm
Omen Industries -Entropy-
249
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Posted - 2012.09.26 10:22:00 -
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This has been an ongoing issue...
Will it be "fixed"? More then likely not...
Best way to combat it? Ignore local and have plenty of bookmarks... "Being drunk is a good disguise. I drink so I can talk to a**holes. This includes me." |
TharOkha
0asis Group
67
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Posted - 2012.09.26 10:24:00 -
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I have nothing againist scaming as well but what i hate are those bots AND that they just recycling alts (isnt this againist eula?). if they want to scam they should use their main. So the block function should work again. GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Pipa Porto
1051
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Posted - 2012.09.26 10:29:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:I have nothing againist scaming as well but what i hate are those bots AND that they just recycling alts (isnt this againist eula?). if they want to scam they should use their main. So the block function should work again.
Deleting a Character is only an exploit if you're doing it to avoid the penalties of having a low Sec Status. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=117249#post117249
Quote:GM Karidor]5) Alt recycling While players are free to delete characters as they see fit, excessive recycling of characters not permitted and disciplinary actions will be decided on a case by case basis. General guideline: donGÇÖt do it to avoid consequences within game mechanics. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
TharOkha
0asis Group
67
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Posted - 2012.09.26 10:38:00 -
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Well they are avoiding blocks. after week or so (when 9/10 ppl in jita have them blocked) they just recycle.... I think that this is an expolit. GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Kraken.
325
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Posted - 2012.09.26 11:02:00 -
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There's not much point trying to work around blocks. Blocks matter nothing to a scammer - the person who blocked you saw through the scam already. Scammers aren't targeting those people observant enough to block them. |
terzslave
RedStar Enterprises RED Citizens
66
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Posted - 2012.09.26 11:04:00 -
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The scammer spammers are there for atmosphere. Leave them alone. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Kraken.
325
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Posted - 2012.09.26 11:05:00 -
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terzslave wrote:The scammer spammers are there for atmosphere. Leave them alone. To be precise: the spammer scammers are there for atmosphere |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4914
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Posted - 2012.09.26 11:05:00 -
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Andski wrote:show info
report bot Sadly does not work as well as we wish it. I reported this guy http://evelocal.com/p/Raphael_Sheen for the first time at 2012-07-17 (and multiple times since then) - yet CCP does nothing - despite he is pretty obvious he's not a normal pilot sitting by the keyboard spamming.
And there are tons of then - just look at the top 15 for the past day - http://evelocal.com/stats/Jita
They together spam more than the legit pilots talk together.
/c
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Pipa Porto
1051
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Posted - 2012.09.26 11:17:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Well they are avoiding blocks. after week or so (when 9/10 ppl in jita have them blocked) they just recycle.... I think that this is an expolit.
How is people blocking them a mechanical penalty that is an exploit to escape? EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
TharOkha
0asis Group
67
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Posted - 2012.09.26 11:19:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:TharOkha wrote:Well they are avoiding blocks. after week or so (when 9/10 ppl in jita have them blocked) they just recycle.... I think that this is an expolit. How is people blocking them a mechanical penalty that is an exploit to escape?
hmm.. i think you are one of those ppl that just recycling their alts for scamming... GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Pipa Porto
1051
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Posted - 2012.09.26 11:22:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:TharOkha wrote:Well they are avoiding blocks. after week or so (when 9/10 ppl in jita have them blocked) they just recycle.... I think that this is an expolit. How is people blocking them a mechanical penalty that is an exploit to escape? hmm.. i think you are one of those ppl that just recycling their alts for scamming...
I think you are one of those people who likes poisoning wells.
Anyway, even if I were, how is people blocking them a mechanical penalty that is an exploit to escape?
Using Alts to avoid Social Penalties in EVE is a time honored tradition. Why should your "blocking rights" be special? EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Kraken.
325
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Posted - 2012.09.26 11:23:00 -
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chat request > someone blocks you (game mechanic) > make an alt > chat request (EVE-mail, spam, w/e)
I don't think it's useful in any way but it's there vOv |
Pipa Porto
1051
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Posted - 2012.09.26 11:40:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:chat request > someone blocks you (game mechanic) > make an alt > chat request (EVE-mail, spam, w/e)
I don't think it's useful in any way but it's there vOv
So the game automatically blocks you?
'Cause the Game automatically docks you Sec status, and that's the comparison you're trying (and failing) to make.
GCC > The Game enforces a Sec Status Penalty > Recycle to avoid Low Sec status = Exploit Whatever > Some other Person Blocks you > Recycle to avoid long block list* = Escaping Social penalties for your actions, a time honored tradition in EVE
*Recycling alts to keep bugging a specific person would be bannable for a different reason. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Kraken.
325
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Posted - 2012.09.26 11:46:00 -
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I don't think that's what game mechanic means, and I think that if you want to argue about non-issues you should create a new topic or mail a GM. |
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Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.09.26 12:02:00 -
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Samoth Egnoled wrote:Botters are becoming a problem Heh, look at this cute newbie who thinks bots are becoming a problem. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Pipa Porto
1051
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Posted - 2012.09.26 12:04:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:I don't think that's what game mechanic means, and I think that if you want to argue about non-issues you should create a new topic or mail a GM.
So if I block you, and you decide to delete your character, you should be banned? Really? EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
351
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Posted - 2012.09.26 12:06:00 -
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Hey, don't be so mean. Bots are sub paying people too you know. |
Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
456
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Posted - 2012.09.26 12:10:00 -
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If I worked for CCP I'd sit there accepting every scam, then delete the ISK from their wallets.
See how long they keep Coming back for more of that
Coincidentally, this is also why I should never work for CCP.
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
TharOkha
0asis Group
67
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Posted - 2012.09.26 12:23:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote: So if I block you, and you decide to delete your character, you should be banned?
Pipa, please, dont be a troll and dont dodge the original post. We are saying about 3 day old recycling alts that spamming jita local. If i block you and you delete your char, i dont give a ....
Also i dont understand why are you so desperately defend those 3-day recycled jita alt bots. GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Pipa Porto
1051
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Posted - 2012.09.26 12:34:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Pipa Porto wrote: So if I block you, and you decide to delete your character, you should be banned?
Pipa, please, dont be a troll and dont dodge the original post. We are saying about 3 day old recycling alts that spamming jita local. If i block you and you delete your char, i dont give a .... Also i dont understand why are you so desperately defend those 3-day recycled jita alt bots.
If the rule is that recycling characters to evade blocks, what's the difference? And since you don't get a list or number of people who blocked you (for good reason), how can you tell if you have too many blocks to be allowed to biomass your character?
Blocks are a social consequence, and EVE has a long and storied history of people using alts to escape social consequences. This is the same as using alts to escape blacklists (so you can keep AWOXing the same alliance), or to keep running heists, or any number of other social uses for alts.
Oh, and what evidence do you have that any of the spammers who are not bots are recycling their characters?
As to muddying the water with the bot issue. Bots should get banned for ... I don't know ... botting. And that's why you see all the 3d alts. They get banned and have to start a new toon, not because of blocklists. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
OmniBeton
OmniBeton Metatech
19
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Posted - 2012.09.26 13:32:00 -
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Ok, again - WHY are you even flying through Jita with local on ? |
Gillia Winddancer
Shiny Noble Crown Services
91
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Posted - 2012.09.26 13:38:00 -
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10000 isk fee each time you use local chat
That way you'd only use it if you have something important to say. Rather extreme, but that's more or less the only compromised solution to this spam problem.
As for whether people want a solution like this or not is an entirely different matter. I would think that most would not like this. |
Lord Leftfield
The Society Calyxes
11
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Posted - 2012.09.26 14:52:00 -
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My blocklist is getting annoyingly long... |
Sin Pew
Dakini Rising The Kali Cartel
125
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Posted - 2012.09.26 14:57:00 -
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The longer the blocklist, the more likely the problem isn't on it. "haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator." |
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